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Dis-CERNing the God Particle

 
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Dis-CERNing the God Particle
Dis-CERNing the God Particle

By William Henry


THE BURNING BUSH – Protons spinnin’ in a ring: smashin’, twangin’, sprayin’. Sparks flyin’ in the dark. It could be the perfect moment to run down the dream of reading the mind of God…

...or to get sucked into nothingness.

Something incredible is going on. Scientists on the wild edge of high energy physics at labs in Illinois and Geneva are racing to see who will be the first to enter the ‘Burning Bush’ and to de-cloak a fundamental, but elusive, sub atomic particle that is given cosmic or divine proportions by its, some say absurd, moniker, the God Particle (which particular god is unknown – let’s just pray it’s not that jealous one).

If all goes as planned, sometime in 2008 the heads of state of governments around the world will climb the mountain at CERN, the particle physics lab/stargate near Geneva to light the flame of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN a 17 mile ring; the most expensive and sophisticated machine on earth.

When it’s fired up it will begin smashing protons moving at 99.999999% of the speed of light into each other and so recreate the conditions a fraction of a second after the big bang.

Dr. Michio Kaku calls it “the Genesis Machine.” It is hoped it will complete the revelation of the greatest secret of all time, and will take us out of cosmic kindergarten and into first grade, cosmically speaking.

Far from being a genesis machine, others see the LHC at CERN as a doomsday machine.

They worry that CERN is the name on the sign at the last exit we’ll take as humans before we going flying off into oblivion.

THE GODDAMN PARTICLE

If this Bush bears fruit a remarkable particle called the Higgs Boson (H) will be discovered.

The Higgs is better known by its flashy name the God Particle. It’s called the God Particle, says physicist, Leon Lederman, in his book of the same title, because we couldn’t call it the Goddamn particle. It’s been that frustrating to find.

A Nobel laureate, Lederman is Director Emeritus of Fermlilab, one of two labs poking around the Burning Bush. His publisher slapped this ‘not at all’ serious title on his book and then launched it into the thought sphere.

It stuck.

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slow drips from the blogosphere into the minds of physicists like Chinese water torture, driving them crazy and making them sound like atheists or blasphemers when they talk about it.

The God Particle is thought to exist in an all-pervading cosmic field, a sort of invisible lattice or matrix, referred to as the Higgs Field, that filled the universe after the Big Bang, imbuing all other particles with their mass (including the ones that form your body). It’s never been seen, but our understanding of the universe and its creation relies on its existence. It holds everything together. (Invisible. Mysterious. Enables life. Hey, sounds like love.)

First imagined (in the modern era anyway) in 1964 (Beatlemania) by British physicist, Peter Higgs, the discovery of the God Particle will complete our physics kit, called the Standard Model. Humanity will have earned its ‘H prize’. As happened with Abraham, who was given an ‘h’ on the end of his name after his initiation by the immortal Melchizedek, things will be different for humanity with its H in place.

No longer will we be teething on Einstein. Those born after the year 2008 will be Jimmy Neutrons, ready to make Star Trek, possibly even Stargate, happen. That’s right. We’re talking about opening wormholes.

STARGATE 2012

This is all mighty interesting, especially in light of the timing.

At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. According to the Mayans this date will mark the end of one world and the beginning of another.

This rare galactic alignment is referred to as the Cosmic Cross. It’s considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life, a tree remembered as sacred in all the world's spiritual traditions.

Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration.

As I discussed in my DVD presentation, Stargate 2012, the Mayans say from out of this tree/star alignment comes a serpent rope with an enlightened being named Nine Winds or Quetzalcoatl riding upon it and a blessed substance’ or ‘sap’ the Mayans called itz (literally ‘the blessed substance’) apparently spewing from it.

In Mayan belief a serpent rope emerges from the center of the galaxy, symbolized by an 8-rayed or 8-spoked wheel. Cosmic sap oozes from this world tree or cosmic cross.

Usually, when one thinks of ‘sap’ they’re thinking of a watery liquid nutrient that circulates through the conducting tissues of a plant or tree (that or a person who acts like an idiot). However, when I Go(ogle)d, excuse me, Googled, ‘cosmic sap’ I found that ‘sap’ is also an acronym for ‘sub atomic particle’ (or sap).

Hmm. Are the Mayans describing a ‘blessed sub atomic particle’ that will appear in 2012, give or take year or two? Is this the same as the God Particle?

I think so.

The 8-rayed or spoked ATLAS detector at CERN.

As above. So below. The ATLAS detector and the Mayan 8-rayed galaxy symbol, the source of the cosmic sap.

Even more intriguing is the picture that developed when Mayan scholar John Major Jenkins replaced the Mayan term “serpent rope” with the appropriate modern word “wormhole”. Will Quetzalcoatl return like a time-traveler through a wormhole?

I find it highly interesting that this ‘wormhole’ he is emerging from is an 8-rayed symbol (the galaxy) that precisely matches the 8 rayed or 8-spoked Large Hadron Collider at CERN, the behemoth designed to search for the unseen, unknown God Particle.

Is the LHC a stargate device capable of creating wormholes for time traveling beings? Hmm. When I began thinking about this in 2004 I had no idea how close I was to the truth.

NONSENSE

In The God Particle, Lederman says the search for the Higgs is actually a recreation of the Tower of Babel incident recorded in the Book of Genesis.

There’s your trouble.

In the 23rd century B.C. the Sumerian king Nimrod built a ladder (symbolized by an H) or Tower (actually a gate) that reached from Babylon into the stars. The jealous Israelite god Yahweh got nervous about humankind ‘making a Name or Renown’ for itself by building this Gate. If successful, says the Book of Genesis, “nothing we can imagine would be impossible for us.”

Biblical scholars say Nimrod was known as Osiris, the Egyptian god of resurrection, in Egypt. Both are associated with ladders or stairways to heaven. This is key. Inside Sety’s 14th century B.C. temple at Abydos, in the Osiris Chapel, is the magnificent depiction of Osiris as a pillar or tower. In fact, the Egyptians called this Osiris pillar the Ta-Wer or ‘bond between heaven and earth’. Sounds like Babel to me.

The Osiris Device, a tower that reached into the heavens.

On the opposite wall of the Osiris Chapel at Abydos is the Osiris Device, enhanced, I noticed, with the ship of eternity upon which the king will sail into eternity as a star. This ship resembles a modern drawing of a wormhole. Pay particular attention to Sety who appears to have transformed his body into the Osiris Device… or is coming out of it. This is a wonderful moment of transformation and resurrection.

The Osiris Stargate Device.

A wormhole-shaped ship of eternity is attached to the Osiris Device. Is this an ancient scanning device that projected souls to distant galaxies or other dimensions?

A diagram of a wormhole. Notice the trumpet or lotus-shaped mouths on each end.

The addition of the wormhole-shaped ship to the Osiris pillar/Tower of Babel suggested to me that this ladder or stairway to heaven is either some form of ancient particle accelerator for opening wormholes or a scanning device that scanned Sety atom by atom and fed that information through the wormhole with instructions to reconstruct, reconstitute or “re-member” him ala the re-membered Osiris on the other side.

So, when one of these Towers was potentially going up in Babylon Yahweh got nervous. He launched a pre-emptive strike, smashing the Babel Tower/(Star)Gate and separating humankind by language. After cleaning up the debris His scribes changed the meaning of the word ‘babel’ from gate to ‘confusion’, ‘nonsense’. Get it? Humankind make a Name for itself by opening a Gate to God? That’s nonsense! Impossi-babel!

For the last 4,500 years or so we’ve been waiting for another shot at opening the Gate.

I’ll explain why the God Particle might as well be called the Christ Particle (Christ = the universal and life-giving consciousness of the cosmos) and how it fulfills Messianic, and indeed, Mayan prophecy momentarily…

SHOT THROUGH THE DARK

In case you’ve been cooped-up in the dark with other concerns (perhaps watching Lost) let me shed a little light for you. Humankind is a species on the brink of either extinction or cosmic exultation.

I’ve never watched Lost, but on Andrew Jones’ Physics Blog he notes that the show’s runners plan on featuring the LHC at CERN in future episodes. They compare the show’s Dharma Initiative logo with the ATLAS detector at the LHC.

While the War on (T)error commenced and has pushed us to the brink of WW III, and the long-anticipated Armageddon battle that triggers the return of God to some Christians, scientists have been busy proving just how dark and ignorant our warring minds really are.

Astrophysical observations of galaxies and supernovae have shown that visible, ‘solid’ matter (knock, knock) accounts for a miniscule five percent of the entire energy and mass of the universe. All the people, stars and billions and billions of galaxies we can see account for only 5% of all that is out there.

Who’s there? Additional invisible “dark matter” we know virtually nothing about influences the motion of galaxies, and “Dark energy” speeds up the expansion of the universe. We are created from this Dark Matter.

This exhibit at Fermilab, in Batavia, IL, pretty much sums up our knowledge of all that is.

The Cosmic Web Theory. This computer simulation shows the Cosmic Web. Our universe is a sponge-like cosmic brain.

Scientists with increasingly powerful and intelligent computers capable of crunching the new data propose the Universe is constructed like an oversized spider web. All visible material is arranged along the filamentary structure of the Dark Matter. These dark matter filaments are likened to the “Fingers of God”. On its threads and knots, this unseen cosmic web holds seeds or pearls known as galaxies.

The Hubble Space Telescope captures the effects of Dark Matter on galaxies.

Dark matter neither emits nor reflects light. It is sensed by its gravitational effect. It is believed that as the universe evolves, the gravitational attraction of dark matter causes galaxies to spin and collide, forming superclusters.

The Cosmic Web grew from the big bang. To understand the Cosmic Web, scientists must understand how it developed from those first primordial particles, including the one called the God Particle. The God Particle is hiding somewhere in this Cosmic Web.

INTO THE LIGHT

“For you were once in darkness, but are now Light in the Lord. Walk as Children of Light,” says Ephesians 5:8

Peter Higgs, who is currently Emeritus professor at the University of Edinburgh, says he’s almost sure (90%) the God Particle will be confirmed in the next year, hopefully, before his 80th birthday in May, 2009.

He recently proclaimed so on a pilgrimage to the soon to be humming ‘Ring of Cosmic Sovereignty’ (the Burning Bush) at CERN. Scientists plan to recreate the conditions that existed just after the Big Bang (if you believe that happened) 14 billion years ago. They’ll hum counter-rotating beams of particles from opposite ends around the 17-mile ring at 99.999% light speed and then smash ‘em together.

A moment of silence, please.

Out of the streams of these collisions could spring new fundamental particles, such as the long-sought Higgy Baby, the cosmic sap.

Simulation of Higgs Decay in the CMS Detector (CERN). When these particles collide, they will create bursts of high energy. Such collisions themselves are too small to study but new, heavier particles can appear amongst the debris.

The spray of the God Particle is stylized in the logo of CERN’s newsletter.

Computer reconstruction of particle tracks, originating from the simulated decay of a Higgs-boson.

A scientist at the particle accelerator at Fermilab in Batavia, IL, CERN’s rival, told me on a visit there that his lab’s physicists may already have created but not detected the God Particle. Like reading tealeaves, it takes a while to, ahem, dis-cern the Higgs from the spay of collisions. He also hinted it will not be found unless it wishes to be.

You mean it’s calling us?

It will require a shift in our perception to answer the call?

This makes sense. Marcel Proust said that, “The real act of discovery consists not in finding new lands but in seeing with new eyes.”

“It's not what you look at, it's what's you see,” said Henry David Thoreau.

New eyes? New consciousness? New Earth? New God? Somebody call Oprah.

The God Particle brings with it an invitation to get to know the mind of God… and to become gods able to fulfill our unlimited possibilities.

THE BLACK HOLE AT THE END OF TIME

But, Adam and Eve, you should consider the ramifications before biting this forbidden apple. So warn observers.

CERN’s LHC is more powerful than Fermilab’s Tevatron. It’s so powerful it could also produce particles of dark matter, the mysterious stuff whose gravity holds the galaxies together, or even miniature black holes.

Far from being adepts on the verge of leading us into sovereign cosmic citizenry, some believe that when the Nimrods start spraying particles in their ring at CERN it’ll unleash a shit storm of problems, some of them cosmic in scale. That’s why they’re not informing the public about the possible cataclysmic downside of their great work. Remember the tsunami that swallowed South Asia? Try a black hole swallowing Geneva!

Look. Over there. There’s a pretty rainbow. CERN’s scientists assure us there is absolutely no danger in this undertaking. The black holes they will be creating are millions of times smaller than the nucleus of an atom and they’ll only live for a fraction of a second. Simply, they’re too small and too short lived to swallow anything. However, others cannot resist writing future headlines like “Black Hole Swallows Earth.”

You’d think such a ‘Babylon working’ with obvious, and even declared, religious undertones and potentially cataclysmic possibilities would whip talking heads into frenzied spinning on the so-called cable news shows.

You’re right!

Protest is mounting, including legal action from alarmed scientists. The global consciousness, recently awakened by the alarm bells of the global climate crisis, is now waking up and smelling what’s brewing at CERN.
(Another planetary emergency. Whoo hoo! How’d we get so lucky to be alive at this incredible moment?)

TIME TRAVEL?

We got a glimpse of the potential hysteria in February, 2008 when two Russian mathematicians came along to say that the LHC could actually function as a time-travel machine! It’ll produce wormholes for a fraction of a second that could be used by time travelers.

There’s a couple of conditions. One, the travelers could only be smaller than the size of an atom. Two, they cannot travel back in time beyond the far point in time when the first wormhole was created.

That’s why 2008 is being called Year 0.

A New Scientist article on time travel points out that there are many practical problems and theoretical paradoxes to time travel. "Nevertheless, the slim possibility remains that we will see visitors from the future in the next year," the magazine says, rather engagingly.

The search for this imaginary particle is not crazy. The possibility that we could open a wormhole isn’t crazy either. Well not completely, say some scientists observing from the hedge. Still, it may be a good idea to start loving being human, squeezing joy out of every magic moment you’re in the body and making memories for eternity. It’s a real fine place to start to change our world anyway.

STARGATE CERN

I visited CERN looking to read the signs and the symbols of the scientists who are poised to either turn earth into a light echo as it slips into a black hole in a silent scream or to open a stargate to a new universe.

At first glance, one could be on the campus of an university in America.

Then there’s the statue of Shiva stamping out ignorance.

Me and Shiva, the Lord of the Dance, or Lord of the Ring, at CERN.

An experiment called ATLAS will lift the stone, the building blocks of nature. Standing over five stories tall and weighing 7,000 tons the ATLAS detector is housed in cathedral-sized cavern 300 feet underground.

I was blown away when I got off the elevator that took me those 300 feet underground to the ATLAS detector. The sign on the wall said it all: “Recreating the conditions just after the Big Bang.” (One 100,000,000,000th of a second - one hundred of a billionth – after the big bang to be exact.)

A sign outside the ATLAS detector at CERN.

I instantly recalled the Jewish legend that tells of the return of Elijah, the forerunner of the Messiah, who will perform seven wonders, among which is heralding the reappearance of the primal light, which shone before the week of the Creation. This ‘primal light’ sounds suspiciously like the Higgs Field and the God Particle.

The LHC at CERN will replicate the conditions nanoseconds after the Big Bang in the time before the first week of Creation, as recorded in the Book of Genesis. Source: CERN.

By literally smashing particles together at nearly the speed of light scientists hope to answer fundamental questions about what happened to the particles that make up our Universe in the nano seconds after Big Bang. Isn’t this another way of describing the time (one hundredth of a billionth of a second) before the first week of the Creation?

If I had a chance to re-write the sign at CERN it’d read: Recreating the conditions just after the big bang… so that the primal light, which shone before the week of the Creation, will reappear.

THE RETURN OF ELIJAH

“If Jesus Christ were to stand up today he’d be gunned down dead by the CIA,” so sang The The.

If I’m right the murder of God (the discovery of the God or Christ Particle) will take place at CERN. Well, let me just put it this way. Jesus would be deeply interested in the goings at the chapel perilous in Geneva. So too would his prophesied forerunner, who is considered the reincarnation of Elijah.

It’s been nearly 3,000 years since Elijah (Elias), the holy man and representative of YHWH (the Israelite God) walked the Earth. He’s the mystic famed for raising the dead, bringing fire down from the sky, and spectacularly disappearing into heaven (outer or inner space), riding upon a chariot of fire in a whirlwind (2 Kings 2:11), or stargate, at that mysterious ring of stones known as Gilgal.

Apparently Elijah’s vehicle is some sort of time travel machine that enables his soul to toggle between the worlds as eight hundred or so years later he materialized along with Moses at the Transfiguration of Jesus, when the Nazarene teacher performed the light body effect; metamorphosing into light and then back into human form.

In Iron Man Robert Downey, Jr. puts on a power suit and ascends into the heavens. A modern Elijah?

Elijah’s vehicle is thought of as a “Shining vesture”, a “Vehicle,” the “key to the kingdom of Heaven”, and a “Seal” of “regeneration.”

“Light Body” is the modern term for it. This transmittable light body teaching was symbolized by a power suit or garment. Elijah transmitted it to Elisha.

Jesus was also taken into heaven, presumably in a similar ‘whirlwind’. Jesus plainly said, centuries after Elijah's departure, "No one has ascended into heaven but He who descended from heaven, the Son of man." (John 3:13) This statement is taken to mean that Jesus knew the secret of the Light Body, which, really is the secret of time travel via wormholes.

The Transfiguration of Jesus into light. Jesus stands in a ring or a gate.

The spray of the God Particle is stylized in the logo of a particle physics newsletter.

It may be more than synchronistic that the logo for the God Particle fits perfectly on the Transfiguration image of Jesus.

The Transfiguration is thought to prefigure the coming of a new Light into the world. This Light will appear at the End Time, which may well correspond to the Maya 2012 date.

THE DIVINE PARTICLE

The Gnostics believed humans are divine sparks trapped in the human body. They claimed they possessed the secret of the Divine Spark or particle and how to “perfect” their bodies into light. The Great Perfection, as it is called in Tibet, is the process whereby all the nerves of the body are transmuted into a vortex of energy and the Divine Spark is “beamed” to another locale in space-time.

The Gnostics further believed that the soul was composed of an immaterial and imperishable crystalline substance. It emanated from the highest, finest realm and became entangled in the human body and the spell of Earth.

In The Gospel of Judas Jesus said, ‘Come that I may teach you about secrets no person has ever seen. For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extend no generation of angels has seen, in which there is a great and invisible spirit. Which no eye of an angel has ever seen, No thought of the heart has ever comprehended, And it was never called by any name.

Are we experiencing the cosmic moment in which this great and boundless realm (the realm of Dark Matter) whose extend no generation of angels has seen, is revealing more of its secrets? Are we about to enter the Burning Bush and experience the great and invisible spirit?

Echoing Peter Higgs, I’m 90% sure we are.


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I find it amazing that so-called scholars will pick and choose little pieces of God and scripture to suit their needs and yet, deny so much of what we've been given therein.


Remember this, y'all, found in THE WORD:

Man's wisdom is foolishness to our God.

Try as they might, they will NOT crack the mysteries of the universe - - I'll guarantee you that!

And certainly not, "the God particle" - - as if !!! LOL!

The mysteries of the universe, those hidden things that are being revealed, WILL come only to those dedicated to His service - - and most likely, in the New Heaven and New Earth that is foretold - - certainly not in this depraved state of the world we now find ourselves in.

I hope with me you can say that yes, we are in it, but not of it.


So, dream away all you dreamers.

This world will change under the guidance and direction of only ONE - - and no man, not even the greatest team of men, gathered under the name of CERN scientists - - will gain the knoweldge they are seeking - - unless it be given to them by the Holy One, The Most High God, King of Kings and True Master of the Universe - - and beyond!

Smoke that in your little CERN particle smasher.
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agreed, there is no so-called God Particle. We are just compressed light.
^^ gravity is a harsh reality. ^^
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Waves mon Waves..


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I find it amazing that so-called scholars will pick and choose little pieces of God and scripture to suit their needs and yet, deny so much of what we've been given therein.


Remember this, y'all, found in THE WORD:

Man's wisdom is foolishness to our God.

Try as they might, they will NOT crack the mysteries of the universe - - I'll guarantee you that!

And certainly not, "the God particle" - - as if !!! LOL!

The mysteries of the universe, those hidden things that are being revealed, WILL come only to those dedicated to His service - - and most likely, in the New Heaven and New Earth that is foretold - - certainly not in this depraved state of the world we now find ourselves in.

I hope with me you can say that yes, we are in it, but not of it.


So, dream away all you dreamers.

This world will change under the guidance and direction of only ONE - - and no man, not even the greatest team of men, gathered under the name of CERN scientists - - will gain the knoweldge they are seeking - - unless it be given to them by the Holy One, The Most High God, King of Kings and True Master of the Universe - - and beyond!

Smoke that in your little CERN particle smasher.
 Quoting: wonbyOne



And you know how it will all unfold, exactly. Right?

I don't, but I do think it would be hilarious if earth scientists created a situation by accident that created exactly the opposite of what they intend to do and somehow
accidentally propelled most of all of mankind into a state of oneness. Now that would be true divine comedy.

Highly unlikely, but laughable nonetheless.

It will all unfold perfectly. We can watch the play, or get upset about it and argue. It won't change the outcome one whit, as it has already been written.
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>Our universe is a sponge-like cosmic brain.

I KNEW IT! I KNEW SPONGEBOB WOULD END UP JUSTIFIED IN THE END!


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It has been said before and I will say it again, "We live in very special times."
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
- Bertrand Russell
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I think differing philosophical points of view as branches of a tree, each competing for its share of the light. It is the leaves at the top of the tree whose ego says, "it is us that provide for the life of this tree." They have forgotten the roots and the branches who now sit in the shade. - Bloggermouth
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the thing that upsets me is how DUMB these people are .....
they are going on the assumption that all life in the universe was created by a big bang ...... those of us with any commonsense realize that all THIS didn't just happen....
it was created .......... it had to be ....... it works too
perfectly to be an accident ...... i don't care what they say ..... THEY have an agenda ...... as with everything else they do ...... but this one really sucks ...... they are messing with things they cannot possibly understand ...
which can alter everything and everyone ...... especially given that they don't really know our universe and how it works ...... wouldn't it be better to find out how and why our universe works before messing with how it came about and trying to be "GOD" ...... not a smart thing to do ....
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I find it amazing that so-called scholars will pick and choose little pieces of God and scripture to suit their needs and yet, deny so much of what we've been given therein.


Remember this, y'all, found in THE WORD:

Man's wisdom is foolishness to our God.

Try as they might, they will NOT crack the mysteries of the universe - - I'll guarantee you that!

And certainly not, "the God particle" - - as if !!! LOL!

The mysteries of the universe, those hidden things that are being revealed, WILL come only to those dedicated to His service - - and most likely, in the New Heaven and New Earth that is foretold - - certainly not in this depraved state of the world we now find ourselves in.

I hope with me you can say that yes, we are in it, but not of it.


So, dream away all you dreamers.

This world will change under the guidance and direction of only ONE - - and no man, not even the greatest team of men, gathered under the name of CERN scientists - - will gain the knoweldge they are seeking - - unless it be given to them by the Holy One, The Most High God, King of Kings and True Master of the Universe - - and beyond!

Smoke that in your little CERN particle smasher.



And you know how it will all unfold, exactly. Right?

I don't, but I do think it would be hilarious if earth scientists created a situation by accident that created exactly the opposite of what they intend to do and somehow
accidentally propelled most of all of mankind into a state of oneness. Now that would be true divine comedy.

Highly unlikely, but laughable nonetheless.

It will all unfold perfectly. We can watch the play, or get upset about it and argue. It won't change the outcome one whit, as it has already been written.
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NO, a/c, I never said that I did.

I have no idea how it will all unfold - - but I know it will not be by the foolishness of man's greatest wisdom.
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It seems that many different fields of science are now exploring the subject of "God" and the "God Particle".

And it strikes me that whether one adheres to the positions stated in this article ~ or the Electric Universe Theory or the Aether Theory ~ all seem to have some level of concern about firing up CERN.

An absolutely wonderful thread, related to what we're all discussing here, is this one... by Divinity ~ "EVIDENCE OF GOD ~ Aether Physics Model". Please check it out!

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Thread: EVIDENCE OF GOD - Aether Physics Model
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It should be called the Devil particle..

Thou shall not mock GOD !


And, I just keep waiting for some nut job Scientist to crack open the forbidden particle, and blow up the Whole dang neighborhood.
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the thing that upsets me is how DUMB these people are .....
they are going on the assumption that all life in the universe was created by a big bang ...... those of us with any commonsense realize that all THIS didn't just happen....
it was created .......... it had to be ....... it works too
perfectly to be an accident ...... i don't care what they say ..... THEY have an agenda ...... as with everything else they do ...... but this one really sucks ...... they are messing with things they cannot possibly understand ...
which can alter everything and everyone ...... especially given that they don't really know our universe and how it works ...... wouldn't it be better to find out how and why our universe works before messing with how it came about and trying to be "GOD" ...... not a smart thing to do ....
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I've heard the bigbang theory compared to that of all the pieces of a fine watch being thrown into a box and shaken a few times over thousands of years, no less ... the expectation being that the watch will magically just come together and ... run like clockwork!

We're still seeing through that glass darkly.
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Yes. The foolishness of man. We don't need to know HOW the divine plan works, or WHY the divine plan works. All we need to know is that it DOES work.

That is what Faith and trust is all about.
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I have come to realize that Jesus did indeed hold special knowledge and that the fabric of our history is not as clear as we have been led to believe. I don't believe that I will ever fully comprehend all that was, is and yet to be and that is why our God made it as simple as possible for all of us...repent, believe in Jesus and his resurrection and we shall have life everlasting. God knew what was coming and that it would be far above the minds of average man and in his mercy he gave a us a simple act of faith to in order to overcome and live. Praise him.
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Thank you so much for the pin!!!

From the CERN website, here's a link to "Opening Day 2008" ~ on 6 April 2008:

[link to lhc2008.web.cern.ch]


Many times, here on GLP, I've seen people post links to the firing-up date of CERN. Would someone kindly give that again? Thanks bunches!

On Coast to CoastAM radio, Steve Quayle said the "go" date would be June 6th. Then here on GLP, I think I read that it is July 7th.

Does anyone know for sure? Will CERN tell us?

I suspect "not"... that we will get the news AFTER it's all over... Wasayo
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I have come to realize that Jesus did indeed hold special knowledge and that the fabric of our history is not as clear as we have been led to believe. I don't believe that I will ever fully comprehend all that was, is and yet to be and that is why our God made it as simple as possible for all of us...repent, believe in Jesus and his resurrection and we shall have life everlasting. God knew what was coming and that it would be far above the minds of average man and in his mercy he gave a us a simple act of faith to in order to overcome and live. Praise him.
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No. No. No. You have your own work to do. You don't have to be all technical and scientific to understand.....but you also don't just sit there and say that Jesus did it for me.
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I have come to realize that Jesus did indeed hold special knowledge and that the fabric of our history is not as clear as we have been led to believe. I don't believe that I will ever fully comprehend all that was, is and yet to be and that is why our God made it as simple as possible for all of us...repent, believe in Jesus and his resurrection and we shall have life everlasting. God knew what was coming and that it would be far above the minds of average man and in his mercy he gave a us a simple act of faith to in order to overcome and live. Praise him.


No. No. No. You have your own work to do. You don't have to be all technical and scientific to understand.....but you also don't just sit there and say that Jesus did it for me.
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Not sure what you're trying to say but I'm just saying that I don't have to understand CERN, God-particle and quantum physics even though it does play a role in our reality. The scientific and technical stuff is real and has or will have a real effect on our life, but God, in his infinate wisdom and mercy kept it simple for all of us and gave us one man to teach us the true way to God and all I have to do is believe in Him and His resurrection to have everlasting life. Yes, I do still have work to do, it is to testify to this fact and help other people come to this knowledge thereby knowing and worshipping God.
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I have come to realize that Jesus did indeed hold special knowledge and that the fabric of our history is not as clear as we have been led to believe. I don't believe that I will ever fully comprehend all that was, is and yet to be and that is why our God made it as simple as possible for all of us...repent, believe in Jesus and his resurrection and we shall have life everlasting. God knew what was coming and that it would be far above the minds of average man and in his mercy he gave a us a simple act of faith to in order to overcome and live. Praise him.


No. No. No. You have your own work to do. You don't have to be all technical and scientific to understand.....but you also don't just sit there and say that Jesus did it for me.


Not sure what you're trying to say but I'm just saying that I don't have to understand CERN, God-particle and quantum physics even though it does play a role in our reality. The scientific and technical stuff is real and has or will have a real effect on our life, but God, in his infinate wisdom and mercy kept it simple for all of us and gave us one man to teach us the true way to God and all I have to do is believe in Him and His resurrection to have everlasting life. Yes, I do still have work to do, it is to testify to this fact and help other people come to this knowledge thereby knowing and worshipping God.
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And I am saying no, that believing in one man and his resurrection is not the true way to God.
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I have come to realize that Jesus did indeed hold special knowledge and that the fabric of our history is not as clear as we have been led to believe. I don't believe that I will ever fully comprehend all that was, is and yet to be and that is why our God made it as simple as possible for all of us...repent, believe in Jesus and his resurrection and we shall have life everlasting. God knew what was coming and that it would be far above the minds of average man and in his mercy he gave a us a simple act of faith to in order to overcome and live. Praise him.


No. No. No. You have your own work to do. You don't have to be all technical and scientific to understand.....but you also don't just sit there and say that Jesus did it for me.


Not sure what you're trying to say but I'm just saying that I don't have to understand CERN, God-particle and quantum physics even though it does play a role in our reality. The scientific and technical stuff is real and has or will have a real effect on our life, but God, in his infinate wisdom and mercy kept it simple for all of us and gave us one man to teach us the true way to God and all I have to do is believe in Him and His resurrection to have everlasting life. Yes, I do still have work to do, it is to testify to this fact and help other people come to this knowledge thereby knowing and worshipping God.


And I am saying no, that believing in one man and his resurrection is not the true way to God.
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Oh.
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Yes. The foolishness of man. We don't need to know HOW the divine plan works, or WHY the divine plan works. All we need to know is that it DOES work.

That is what Faith and trust is all about.
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That's right folks! It's the same "Sons of Belial" that brought us the first destructin of Atlantis with their nefarious scientific "experiments", now trying their hands at it again!

WHEN WILL THEY LEARN!!


SpongeBob's Atlantis SquarePantis



Written by Pollo Misterioso

If I were an eight-year-old girl that watched cartoons I would turn to Nickelodeon and I would love Spongebob Squarepants because it is so much fun. Now I’m not an eight-year-old girl, graduating from my days with dolls, but I still enjoy Spongebob Squarepants, which says a lot about this children’s show; its ridiculous nature translates to all audiences, making it entertaining for everyone.

In the latest installment to the Spongebob Squarepants DVD collection comes Atlantis SquarePantis, featuring a two-part episode with the same title, along with six other entertaining episodes. In these episodes the much-favored characters of Bikini Bottom travel to new places, meet new friends, and sing many new songs that get themselves into lots of trouble, but not without good intentions.

For those that have never watched Spongebob Squarepants, this cartoon takes place underwater in the town of Bikini Bottom. As the opening credits remark, our main character, who is a sponge that wears square pants, lives in a pineapple next to his best friend Patrick Star, a pink starfish that always tags along, and Squidward, an octopus that despises and often takes advantage of our sponge friend.

The “Atlantis SquarePantis” episode begins on the freeways of Los Angeles, introducing Patchy the Pirate stuck in traffic and trying to get to Encino. When he finally reaches his destination, it no longer exists and it reminds him of “another story about a lost city” and we then enter the animated world that we are so familiar with. Here we find Spongebob blowing bubbles with Patrick. Amidst their bubble blowing they stumble upon the missing half of the amulet of Atlantis—once put together the path to the lost city of Atlantis is revealed. Spongebob and his crew are then transported to the city “where all their dreams come true.”

[link to mmsbullpen.blogspot.com]
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I have come to realize that Jesus did indeed hold special knowledge and that the fabric of our history is not as clear as we have been led to believe. I don't believe that I will ever fully comprehend all that was, is and yet to be and that is why our God made it as simple as possible for all of us...repent, believe in Jesus and his resurrection and we shall have life everlasting. God knew what was coming and that it would be far above the minds of average man and in his mercy he gave a us a simple act of faith to in order to overcome and live. Praise him.


No. No. No. You have your own work to do. You don't have to be all technical and scientific to understand.....but you also don't just sit there and say that Jesus did it for me.


Not sure what you're trying to say but I'm just saying that I don't have to understand CERN, God-particle and quantum physics even though it does play a role in our reality. The scientific and technical stuff is real and has or will have a real effect on our life, but God, in his infinate wisdom and mercy kept it simple for all of us and gave us one man to teach us the true way to God and all I have to do is believe in Him and His resurrection to have everlasting life. Yes, I do still have work to do, it is to testify to this fact and help other people come to this knowledge thereby knowing and worshipping God.


And I am saying no, that believing in one man and his resurrection is not the true way to God.
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Oh. Sorry, thought there was something I was missing in your post but apparently not. So when Idol1do they turn on your tower Osiris?
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Nice article. Gee, where'd you pick that one up at?


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the thing that upsets me is how DUMB these people are .....
they are going on the assumption that all life in the universe was created by a big bang ...... those of us with any commonsense realize that all THIS didn't just happen....
it was created .......... it had to be ....... it works too
perfectly to be an accident ...... i don't care what they say ..... THEY have an agenda ...... as with everything else they do ...... but this one really sucks ...... they are messing with things they cannot possibly understand ...
which can alter everything and everyone ...... especially given that they don't really know our universe and how it works ...... wouldn't it be better to find out how and why our universe works before messing with how it came about and trying to be "GOD" ...... not a smart thing to do ....
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I agree 100%. They have no proof the Big Bang occurred and the God Particle 'has to be found' in order to prop up the Standard Model which, currently, is on its last legs.


Wasayo, congratulations on the pin! hf
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I have come to realize that Jesus did indeed hold special knowledge and that the fabric of our history is not as clear as we have been led to believe. I don't believe that I will ever fully comprehend all that was, is and yet to be and that is why our God made it as simple as possible for all of us...repent, believe in Jesus and his resurrection and we shall have life everlasting. God knew what was coming and that it would be far above the minds of average man and in his mercy he gave a us a simple act of faith to in order to overcome and live. Praise him.


No. No. No. You have your own work to do. You don't have to be all technical and scientific to understand.....but you also don't just sit there and say that Jesus did it for me.


Not sure what you're trying to say but I'm just saying that I don't have to understand CERN, God-particle and quantum physics even though it does play a role in our reality. The scientific and technical stuff is real and has or will have a real effect on our life, but God, in his infinate wisdom and mercy kept it simple for all of us and gave us one man to teach us the true way to God and all I have to do is believe in Him and His resurrection to have everlasting life. Yes, I do still have work to do, it is to testify to this fact and help other people come to this knowledge thereby knowing and worshipping God.


And I am saying no, that believing in one man and his resurrection is not the true way to God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429896



Oh. Sorry, thought there was something I was missing in your post but apparently not. So whendo they turn on your tower Osiris?
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Nice article. Gee, where'd you pick that one up at?


peace,
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LOL! What's that about being on 'the same wavelength'?! hf
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PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info

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Sorry about all the attempted corrected postings, going to have to learn how to operate this thing. Good thing I don't work for CERN huh???
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It should be called the Devil particle..

Thou shall not mock GOD !


And, I just keep waiting for some nut job Scientist to crack open the forbidden particle, and blow up the Whole dang neighborhood.
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bump Idol1 bump

BOBDAMN ALCHEMISTS!!! STUPID ATHEIST ALCHEMISTS!!!
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I have come to realize that Jesus did indeed hold special knowledge and that the fabric of our history is not as clear as we have been led to believe. I don't believe that I will ever fully comprehend all that was, is and yet to be and that is why our God made it as simple as possible for all of us...repent, believe in Jesus and his resurrection and we shall have life everlasting. God knew what was coming and that it would be far above the minds of average man and in his mercy he gave a us a simple act of faith to in order to overcome and live. Praise him.


No. No. No. You have your own work to do. You don't have to be all technical and scientific to understand.....but you also don't just sit there and say that Jesus did it for me.


Not sure what you're trying to say but I'm just saying that I don't have to understand CERN, God-particle and quantum physics even though it does play a role in our reality. The scientific and technical stuff is real and has or will have a real effect on our life, but God, in his infinate wisdom and mercy kept it simple for all of us and gave us one man to teach us the true way to God and all I have to do is believe in Him and His resurrection to have everlasting life. Yes, I do still have work to do, it is to testify to this fact and help other people come to this knowledge thereby knowing and worshipping God.


And I am saying no, that believing in one man and his resurrection is not the true way to God.



Oh. Sorry, thought there was something I was missing in your post but apparently not. So whendo they turn on your tower Osiris?
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Sorry, I don't believe in any gods created by man. (Which is what you have done with Jesus, is it not?).

There is a "singularity" beyond all these divisionary gods. That singularity is the true creator. That's where I'm from and that's where I'm heading.
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Waves mon Waves..


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We can be waves. If we really wanted it...
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Does anyone know for sure? Will CERN tell us?

I suspect "not"... that we will get the news AFTER it's all over... Wasayo
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I just returned from Switzerland last week and had a tour of Cern. They say it will go online this summer at some point. We didn't get to go underground at Atlas, but we did get to see another detector in the loop. They were still working on it and the loop has yet to be sealed so I think it will be sometime from now.
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'god particle'... does this mean that scientists believe there is a god?

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