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THE SUN REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH.

 
LS

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holy jesus you are an idiot. the reason an eclipse is so perfect is because the moon is 400 times closer to the earth and the sun is 400 times the size of the moon, but then again how do you explain annular eclipse?



How would anyone know this, why didn't people like columbus already know what territories lay ahead on this planet, you have to get there to know what "there" is.
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you stupid mother fucker! read the rest of my post, cock-sucker! IT EXPLAINS IT! the question was rhetorical. read a book!
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It's called gravity, thats why the helicopter does not move forward, its simple science that you must of failed in grade school. As for the accident its called a object in motion will stay in motion. The cars stops but you don't until that energy is absorbed by the car or the seat belt, which hopefully you will be wearing.

Get off the drugs.......
 Quoting: coolhandluke74


You need to get on drugs, gravity is static, that's why the objects in motion stay in motion, and helicopter can hover above the ground and the ground not move.

Look at it this way, if the Earth was spinning which direction would it spin, N-E-W-S, now picture the conveyor belts at the airports that help you commute from one end to another. When you're standing still no problem, when you walk with the conveyor's direction still no problem, but walk backwards very difficult, how silly can you be!
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hehe im just like u LS. I always try to argue with them for a bit and when their stupidity constanly fails them I just end up swearing my head off at them. They are unteachable, i mean where do you begin when they have no knowledge of even the basics. All they seem to know is the worst pseudoscience and they cant even get that right.
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The OP is just making things up to cause trouble. No one can be that stupid.
I don't know...he sounds pretty honestly stupid to me.


You know nothing about honesty only lies, here are some, the Sun would have to have an atmosphere if science would be correct, its powerful grav/pull would be overly massive for our tiny atmosphere to bounce around it. According to the feild experts that measured the Sun, the Earth would fit 100 times in it, WAY to BIG for our inertia.

Plus the Moon that has no atmosphere would fall right off the Earth and into the Sun, but it doesn't because the Sun is as big as the Moon.
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I thought you dont trust measurments!!? anyway the sun is over 1,000,000 times larger than the earth (100 lol). I really cant make any sense of anything your saying (because its nonsense).
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hehe im just like u LS. I always try to argue with them for a bit and when their stupidity constanly fails them I just end up swearing my head off at them. They are unteachable, i mean where do you begin when they have no knowledge of even the basics. All they seem to know is the worst pseudoscience and they cant even get that right.
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frustration.

i guess i should not let it get too me. i just cannot believe there can be such stupid people on this planet.
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The OP is just making things up to cause trouble. No one can be that stupid.
I don't know...he sounds pretty honestly stupid to me.


You know nothing about honesty only lies, here are some, the Sun would have to have an atmosphere if science would be correct, its powerful grav/pull would be overly massive for our tiny atmosphere to bounce around it. According to the feild experts that measured the Sun, the Earth would fit 100 times in it, WAY to BIG for our inertia.

Plus the Moon that has no atmosphere would fall right off the Earth and into the Sun, but it doesn't because the Sun is as big as the Moon.

I thought you dont trust measurments!!? anyway the sun is over 1,000,000 times larger than the earth (100 lol). I really cant make any sense of anything your saying (because its nonsense).
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let me rephrase that. I mean of course you can fit over 1 million earths into the sun.
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the sun and moon are much, much smaller than earth, which is not a planet.
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holy jesus you are an idiot. the reason an eclipse is so perfect is because the moon is 400 times closer to the earth and the sun is 400 times the size of the moon, but then again how do you explain annular eclipse?

you stupid mother fucker! read the rest of my post, cock-sucker! IT EXPLAINS IT! the question was rhetorical. read a book!
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I read the rest of you're post its as stupid as the poster, how do you know how big the Sun is, according to what feild experts measured the Sun? Can't you see how idiotic this is, how much more idiotic is the one who believe this.
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hehe im just like u LS. I always try to argue with them for a bit and when their stupidity constanly fails them I just end up swearing my head off at them. They are unteachable, i mean where do you begin when they have no knowledge of even the basics. All they seem to know is the worst pseudoscience and they cant even get that right.
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Why do you even answer the post if its idiotic, how much of an idiot are you in doing so, teach what, teach me to be an idiot like you and answer idiot posts?

Get lost grilled chicken!
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frustration.

i guess i should not let it get too me. i just cannot believe there can be such stupid people on this planet.
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Soon there gonna be gone!
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frustration.

i guess i should not let it get too me. i just cannot believe there can be such stupid people on this planet.


Soon there gonna be gone!
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suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure sparky.
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Ok if all this is true what you are telling us then how come the great minds of science have not seen this and told the rest of the world? If this is all true then the text books in the school system should show this. Im going to love to see your answer on this but im sure it will be it's because of the NWO or some other bullshit secret society.
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Get lost grilled chicken!
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I've never been called a grilled chicken before. Hmm im not very offended.
why do I bother posting in these threads? TPTB pay me to of course!!

hehe
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Ok if the sun revolves around the earth then what about the other planets? Or did you forget about those.

Let me guess they revolve around the earth too.

Lets see a graph on this one, should be good.
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Ok if all this is true what you are telling us then how come the great minds of science have not seen this and told the rest of the world? If this is all true then the text books in the school system should show this. Im going to love to see your answer on this but im sure it will be it's because of the NWO or some other bullshit secret society.
 Quoting: coolhandluke74


Power and control, keep you blind, there are soulless walking amongst us, people who would send a whole generation to their deaths for alittle more wealth. Keep you stupid, people who know their Creator will rule the planet because that's the promise GOD made to Adam, if you're fed up of the Elites and their government, believe truth and GOD, and you will rule for HE will choose you over the rest!
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just for a laugh why dont you explain how planet X (which im sure you believe in) fits into all of this then.
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Here ill answer one of the questions for you OP since you have no clue on what you are talking about.





We were at lunch discussing Airplanes and flight times and such. He is flying to San diego and we thought of this. We were wondering if the Roatation of the Earth has any measurable bearing on the flight time. Along those lines Glenn, my esteemed colleague had the thought, that if you were to go straight up into the air in a helicopter and hover for several hours would you land in a different place when you came directly down, or would you travel along with the rotation of the Earth. Thanks all-knowing and ever wondrous Shaun.

The Answer

Well, Kurt and Glenn, it turns out (after consultation with many a secret source) that the rotation of the Earth has no measurable impact on flight time. Also, if you went straight up in a helicopter, hovered, then came down, you would land in the same place. Here’s why:

When you leave the Earth’s surface, you don’t leave its momentum as well. There are still two forces (that we care about) pulling on the helicopter - gravity (pulling down), and the momentum of the Earth’s rotation, pulling you along with it. You are still within the Earth’s power to force you to rotate with it (since the atmosphere is going along with it). Now, if you managed to get yourself into space AND fire some rockets to counteract the momentum you took with you from the Earth, then you could watch it spin under you. But you’ll never be able to escape the Earth’s rotation in a helicopter. Well, you could, but it would be hard. So hard that I won’t even tell you how to do it. Harder than painting a stairwell.
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just for a laugh why dont you explain how planet X (which im sure you believe in) fits into all of this then.
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There are no other planets, only Earth, its science fiction, what technology did the science have in the 1700's for seeing and documenting Uranus? None! How could they have seen planets in the 1700's if you can't see them today, that's why we built the Hubble scope, we couldn't see them either.
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The Answer

When you leave the Earth’s surface, you don’t leave its momentum as well. There are still two forces (that we care about) pulling on the helicopter - gravity (pulling down), and the momentum of the Earth’s rotation, pulling you along with it. You are still within the Earth’s power to force you to rotate with it (since the atmosphere is going along with it). Now, if you managed to get yourself into space AND fire some rockets to counteract the momentum you took with you from the Earth, then you could watch it spin under you. But you’ll never be able to escape the Earth’s rotation in a helicopter. Well, you could, but it would be hard. So hard that I won’t even tell you how to do it. Harder than painting a stairwell.
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You and you're buddy should lay off the tequila, ("pulling you along with it still within the Earth’s power to force you to rotate with it") how do explain the winds blowing in different direction, they would have to be stronger than the Earth's power or they would be blowing in the same direction.
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just for a laugh why dont you explain how planet X (which im sure you believe in) fits into all of this then.


There are no other planets, only Earth, its science fiction, what technology did the science have in the 1700's for seeing and documenting Uranus? None! How could they have seen planets in the 1700's if you can't see them today, that's why we built the Hubble scope, we couldn't see them either.
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Dumbass. You do realize, don't you, that anyone can see five other planets with their naked eyes (not including the earth) and watch them move over time exactly as a planet at their distance would.
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just for a laugh why dont you explain how planet X (which im sure you believe in) fits into all of this then.


There are no other planets, only Earth, its science fiction, what technology did the science have in the 1700's for seeing and documenting Uranus? None! How could they have seen planets in the 1700's if you can't see them today, that's why we built the Hubble scope, we couldn't see them either.


Dumbass. You do realize, don't you, that anyone can see five other planets with their naked eyes (not including the earth) and watch them move over time exactly as a planet at their distance would.
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Please don't confuse him with the truth.

Most of the planets can be seen with a simple telescope but im
sure he will say those are fake too.
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Dumbass. You do realize, don't you, that anyone can see five other planets with their naked eyes (not including the earth) and watch them move over time exactly as a planet at their distance would.
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There are no other planets, only Earth, its science fiction, what technology did the science have in the 1700's for seeing and documenting Uranus? None! How could they have seen planets in the 1700's if you can't see them today, that's why we built the Hubble scope, we couldn't see them either.
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The Sun has no atmosphere such as Earth, science says the Moon orbits because of the balance between inertia and gravity, constantly falling but never falling, understanding this, the Earth would crash into the Sun because the Sun has no atmosphere, the massive gravitaional pull of the Sun would have already crashed the Earth in it.

The Sun and the Moon are the same size, this why an eclipes looks perfect! If they were different sizes one would attract the other due to gravitational pull and collide, but if they are equal, they counter each others pull.

If the Earth did spin, WE would all be dizzy by now?

According to you're science the sun and stars are the same, therefore they don't move, Earth moves around the sun, hence, where ever the planet is around the sun, we should not be able to constantly see the constellations, there would be a point were the Earth would be on the other half of the sun and Earth would only be able to see the constellations coming around the bend. But that's not the case is it!

Lunar eclipse are wrongly explained, look at the first link of the lunar eclipse geometry, see were the moon is to you're right, now look at the second link of the lunar cycles see were the full Moon is to you're left the yellow arrows is the Sun's light. According to both depicted explanations, one of the lunar cylces and the other of eclipses, we should be having and eclipse once a month.

[link to www.mreclipse.com]
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

The explaination is written in scriptures of the true cycles of the Sun and the Moon, and the Sun's name is Tomas and the Moon's Asonya
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 441519


Oh my God, the Bible was right after all!!

Halleluiah, praise the Lord, I’ve seen the light!!

Pass the collection plate.

But….(and forgive me Lord Jesus)… I have just one teeny, tiny, little question?

Forgetting about the phony science I have studied all my life, and just talking in terms of simple logic, let us assume for a moment that the sun and the moon were exactly the same size (as you say). Since they also appear to be the same size when viewed from the Earth (as you also say), that would mean of course that they would also be the same distance from the Earth, since if two objects of the same size were at different distances, they would appear to be of different sizes.

So your point is that the sun and moon are the same size which is why gravity does not draw them into a collision course. OK, I got that.

And during a solar eclipse, you have observed that the moon aligns perfectly with the sun, since both appear, from your vantage point on Earth to be the same size.

But if they are the same size as you say, and they also appear to be the same size when viewed from our little planet, they must be the same distance from the Earth. But if they are the same distance from the Earth and perfectly aligned with the Earth, the sun and moon must be..... touching!!!!! Now, how in the hell can that be???? I know you can explain away my unscientific concerns, so I am waiting for your response.

One other issue………………………….

Regarding your concern why we don’t have a lunar eclipse once a month, I truly understand where you are coming from. Since the Earth is between the sun and moon about once a month, even a fool would understand that the Earth would block the sunlight causing an eclipse (I know that is what you’re thinking). Of course, from a purely logical perspective, if the moon were only aligned with the Earth and sun on one plane, but not another, the Earth wouldn’t necessarily block all that glorious sunlight after all, would it??

In other words, looking at our solar system from above, the sun, earth and moon might be perfectly aligned; however when viewed from the celestial equator, they may not be. Actually, my dear unenlightened friend, this is they way things really are. The moon moves above and below the ecliptic (Earth’s equator) and it is only when the moon is aligned with the earth on both planes that a lunar eclipse occurs. Because of the sizes and distances of the celestial bodies involved, the moon’s orbit does not have to deviate too much from the ecliptic to receive the full light of the sun.

I am a scientist, my friend, and I know you cannot possibly be as ignorant as you pretend; so I will simply salute you for causing an amount of controversy sufficient to rescue some of us old fogies from another night of boredom. You did well! Now think of some more stories to entertain us and get our blood pumping.

Thank you!
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" don't try to teach a pig to dance or sing, it only wastes your time and annoys the pig"
LOL!

hehe im just like u LS. I always try to argue with them for a bit and when their stupidity constanly fails them I just end up swearing my head off at them. They are unteachable, i mean where do you begin when they have no knowledge of even the basics. All they seem to know is the worst pseudoscience and they cant even get that right.
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What do you mean..."how would anyone know this"? We know precisely, literally to the inch, the distance to the moon, it's size, etc. We've been orbiting satellites around the sun since the early 60's so know it's size and distance.


Its science fiction, what technology did the science have in the 1700's for seeing and documenting Uranus? None!

How can you see planets in the 1700's if you can't see them today, that's why we built the Hubble scope, we couldn't see either that planet called Uranus.

If the Earth is in motion at some point we lose track of the constellations, but we don't, the stars accompany the Sun around the Earth, always have, always will!
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Look at the night sky once a month at midnight for a year. the constellations do change throughout the year. You're wrong.
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But if they are the same distance from the Earth and perfectly aligned with the Earth, the sun and moon must be..... touching!!!!! Now, how in the hell can that be???? I know you can explain away my unscientific concerns, so I am waiting for your response.
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The Sun and the Moon are the same size, if they were different sizes one would attract the other due to gravitational pull and collide or touch, but if they are equal, they counter each others pull.

The moon moves above and below the ecliptic (Earth’s equator) and it is only when the moon is aligned with the earth on both planes that a lunar eclipse occurs. Because of the sizes and distances of the celestial bodies involved, the moon’s orbit does not have to deviate too much from the ecliptic to receive the full light of the sun.
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The cosmos is to perfect and ordered for this tilt in the lunar cycle, that once every now and then it tilts the other direction for an eclipse, I'm still reading the BOOK OF ENOCH where I obtained all this information, it speaks of the cause of why lunar eclipse happen, but for now I content myself with this post as is!

I am a scientist, my friend, and I know you cannot possibly be as ignorant as you pretend; so I will simply salute you for causing an amount of controversy sufficient to rescue some of us old fogies from another night of boredom. You did well! Now think of some more stories to entertain us and get our blood pumping.

Thank you!
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You're welcome, and I will let this stir other people for the time being, if its all the same to you!
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Its science fiction, what technology did the science have in the 1700's for seeing and documenting Uranus? None!

How can you see planets in the 1700's if you can't see them today, that's why we built the Hubble scope, we couldn't see either that planet called Uranus.

If the Earth is in motion at some point we lose track of the constellations, but we don't, the stars accompany the Sun around the Earth, always have, always will!

Look at the night sky once a month at midnight for a year. the constellations do change throughout the year. You're wrong.
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Liar, in my neck of the woods the North Star is a constant, if you told the truth once, do you actually believe its a sin? Would you actually believe that GOD would punish you?

Tell the truth, the Devil is a liar, He can't do anything to you, its GOD that keeps you alive, until you live and breath its because GOD still has hope for you, repent sinner!
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The Sun and the Moon are the same size, if they were different sizes one would attract the other due to gravitational pull and collide or touch, but if they are equal, they counter each others pull.
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It sounds like you got you Physics degree off the back of a box of Cracker Jacks.
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The Sun and the Moon are the same size, if they were different sizes one would attract the other due to gravitational pull and collide or touch, but if they are equal, they counter each others pull.

It sounds like you got you Physics degree off the back of a box of Cracker Jacks.
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Better than science fiction diplomas you paid for at school.

Space is nothing no weight, the Moon is something, weight, something weighs more than nothing, the rocks on the Moon stay on the Moon because they weigh more than space which has no weight.

When I said that the Earth's pressure allows the gravity to be where it is, is precisely that it would have been heavier to walk around if we did not have the air and all its gases to buffer the nothing of space.

If you lifted 10 pounds in a pool of water, water is something it has some weight, that 10 pounds is lighter than if you lifted it out of the water and into open air, because air to is something but weighs less than water, but if you lifted the same 10 pounds on the moon it would weigh even more because nothing weighs even less than air!

Why can't you see this, did you never swim in water, aren't you lighter in water than out of it? They would have crashed on the moon, its a fake all of it, WAKE UP!
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But if they are the same distance from the Earth and perfectly aligned with the Earth, the sun and moon must be..... touching!!!!! Now, how in the hell can that be???? I know you can explain away my unscientific concerns, so I am waiting for your response.

The Sun and the Moon are the same size, if they were different sizes one would attract the other due to gravitational pull and collide or touch, but if they are equal, they counter each others pull.

The moon moves above and below the ecliptic (Earth’s equator) and it is only when the moon is aligned with the earth on both planes that a lunar eclipse occurs. Because of the sizes and distances of the celestial bodies involved, the moon’s orbit does not have to deviate too much from the ecliptic to receive the full light of the sun.

The cosmos is to perfect and ordered for this tilt in the lunar cycle, that once every now and then it tilts the other direction for an eclipse, I'm still reading the BOOK OF ENOCH where I obtained all this information, it speaks of the cause of why lunar eclipse happen, but for now I content myself with this post as is!

I am a scientist, my friend, and I know you cannot possibly be as ignorant as you pretend; so I will simply salute you for causing an amount of controversy sufficient to rescue some of us old fogies from another night of boredom. You did well! Now think of some more stories to entertain us and get our blood pumping.

Thank you!


You're welcome, and I will let this stir other people for the time being, if its all the same to you!
 Quoting: Punisher


It's fine by me.

Also, the Book of Enoch says more than most people are willing to hear...about the sun and moon being out of position, about the sun shining brighter, about the seasons being awry. Good reading. It's a shame this book didn't make it into the Bible.

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