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| Anonymous Coward
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5/31/2008 2:49 AM
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This is a shocking but extremely informative video documentary "Vaccination - The Hidden Truth" where 15 people,including Dr. Viera Scheibner (a PhD researcher), five medical doctors, other researchers, and parents' experiences, reveal what is really going on in relation to illness and vaccines. With so much government and medical promotion of vaccination for prevention of disease, ironically the important facts presented here come from the orthodox medicine's own peer-reviewed research, of which a total of well over 100,000 pages has been studied by those interviewed. The result is a damning account of the ineffectiveness of vaccines and their often harmful effects. It shows that parents are not being told the truth by the media, the Health Department and the medical establishment, with a medical doctor, Dr. Mark Donohoe, confessing that "It is a problem for me that I am part of a profession that is systematically lying to people." Find out how vaccines are proven to be both useless and have harmful effects to your health and how they are often erroneously believed to be compulsory. Many people simply refuse to believe the truth regardless of how clear it is, but the impeccable documentation presented in this amazing video has changed the minds of many who have seen it.
[link to waronyou.com] |
| D
User ID: 432031
5/31/2008 3:09 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Add in the 4lbs. of pestacides, the mercury fillings, the hidden sources of lead, the irradiated food, the phony terror wars, msg, nutritionally "dead" food raised on npk without minerals, and suppression of cures and technology which could make life easier and more affordable-no there's no war on us! Hell! There just dumb stupid animals! You could add another thousand items to the list and not half fill it with what's going on against humanity, ie poor schooling, zionist controlled media expousing reverse moral principles, open boarders durring a terror alert, loss of freedoms etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. No, I dodn't see anything going on-cause nobody else does either. Time to sniff some lead, eat a Chinese meal and polish my fillings and wait and see if my stimulous check makes it. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
5/31/2008 3:17 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Did you receive one of those miraculous Salk polio vaccines?
SV40, Polio Vaccine, and Cancer: Now Beyond Coincidence?
Researchers have been discussing accusations that contaminated polio vaccine stocks are to blame for certain cancers, based on the publication a month ago of two high-profile papers linking the simian virus SV40 to human lymphomas.
Less than a week after the papers were published in March, the US National Cancer Institute contacted the researchers to establish plans to send blinded results to three independent labs.
Researchers scanned 99 lymphomas, 235 epithelial tumors and 40 control tissues for the virus. They found the virus in 43% of non-Hodgkin's lymphomas, 9% of Hodgkin's lymphomas, and in none of the control tissues. A second team independently found the virus in 42% of non-Hodgkin's lymphomas, almost unbelievable agreement.
"These are very respectable labs with basically identical results," said Michele Carbone, associate professor of pathology at Loyola University in Chicago. The "clear clustering of positives" is "no accident."
This is not the first time scientists have linked SV40 to human cancers. Researchers suggested for years that millions of vials of polio vaccine, contaminated with SV40, infected individuals between 1953 and 1963 and caused human tumors. Until recently, they were inevitably met with skepticism, even contempt - and some NCI researchers published directly contradictory results.
In 1997, the US National Institutes of Health, with other organizations, organized an international conference to review the SV40 literature and address the possibility that the virus causes human tumors. At the meeting, Carbone, presented his then-controversial data linking the virus to mesotheliomas. (Since then, more than 30 independent reports have confirmed his results).
After the meeting, Carbone says, a conscientious Chicago public health official contacted Carbone and gave him the last remaining stocks of polio vaccine from the 1950s. In her paper, Butel isolated a strain of SV40 from three patients that closely matches the strain Carbone sequenced from the polio vaccine vials.
The evidence proves Butel's results are no artifact, Carbone says. "You cannot contaminate with something that doesn't exist," he said. "This thing only exists in my freezer."
Since publication of their research in the Lancet last month, Gazdar and his colleagues have been investigating rarer subtypes like leukemia and multiple myelomas. The experiments have not been proceeding as fast as they would like, Gazdar says, partly because "there's no government funding" for the research. "The lymphoma story might force them to fund it."
An important next step, Gazdar says, is to prove that the SV40 virus causes lymphomas and isn't just a "passenger" in the cells. That is no easy task, since researchers have only been able to isolate the virus in rare instances. For the most part, they believe, the virus launches a "hit-and-run" attack, initiating a cascade of tumorigenic events before it is destroyed by the body.
Still, it is critical that this research continue, Gazdar says, because molecular and immunologic data suggest those born after 1963 have also been exposed to the virus, via horizontal or vertical transmission, or through sexual contact.
The rates of mesotheliomas, lymphomas and brain tumors have also all gone up "dramatically" in the last 30 years. "Coincidence or not, we have to find out," he said. "It's something to think about."
American Association of Cancer Research San Francisco, CA April 10, 2002 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442543
5/31/2008 5:07 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Very good OP. My daughter has not had one injection of poison her whole life and she's never been better.
Vaccinations are Poison@!!!! PERIOD... |
| observer
User ID: 443125
5/31/2008 5:33 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Add in the 4lbs. of pestacides, the mercury fillings, the hidden sources of lead, the irradiated food, the phony terror wars, msg, nutritionally "dead" food raised on npk without minerals, and suppression of cures and technology which could make life easier and more affordable-no there's no war on us! Hell! There just dumb stupid animals! You could add another thousand items to the list and not half fill it with what's going on against humanity, ie poor schooling, zionist controlled media expousing reverse moral principles, open boarders durring a terror alert, loss of freedoms etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. No, I dodn't see anything going on-cause nobody else does either. Time to sniff some lead, eat a Chinese meal and polish my fillings and wait and see if my stimulous check makes it. Quoting: D 432031
So true!
dunno wether to laugh or cry!
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| Isaac Brock died for us
User ID: 394580
5/31/2008 6:38 AM
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Add in the 4lbs. of pestacides, the mercury fillings, the hidden sources of lead, the irradiated food, the phony terror wars, msg, nutritionally "dead" food raised on npk without minerals, and suppression of cures and technology which could make life easier and more affordable-no there's no war on us! Hell! There just dumb stupid animals! You could add another thousand items to the list and not half fill it with what's going on against humanity, ie poor schooling, zionist controlled media expousing reverse moral principles, open boarders durring a terror alert, loss of freedoms etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. No, I dodn't see anything going on-cause nobody else does either. Time to sniff some lead, eat a Chinese meal and polish my fillings and wait and see if my stimulous check makes it. Quoting: D 432031
You forgot to add that..
THEY ARE SPRAYING US LIKE FUCKING SOYBEANS!
owner of an extensive collection of curios from the exotic orient |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 443148
5/31/2008 7:01 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
...but some other vaccinations are benevolent; I agree on many things said above but vaccinations can help now and then depending on the desease. |
| OneAngryMom 
User ID: 300939
5/31/2008 7:47 AM
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...but some other vaccinations are benevolent; I agree on many things said above but vaccinations can help now and then depending on the desease. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443148
This might be the easiest lesson in "how to identify a shit disturber" I've ever seen.
now and then...
yep
cause that's how they inject it into the newborns
now and then
freeking spoon! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 427592 (OP)
5/31/2008 10:17 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Heres the Digg and Reddit if you vote it up will see. Theres a lot here but theres a lot more in la la land. GMO, Vaccines are killing us and look at what these people think.
Heres some quotes from reddit. This people will bump it down so no one sees it.
"What I don't understand is, and maybe some of you folks can enlighten me, but why do people care if others don't want to get vaccinated? If you're vaccinated you have nothing to worry about, so what the fuck do you care?"
"They're vaccinated from it, how would they get infected?"
[link to digg.com]
[link to reddit.com] |
| Brwnstown
User ID: 407881
5/31/2008 11:02 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
I can honestly say my son is one of the victims of this crap. He is one of the 150 males born in this country that has a form of autism known as aspergers syndrome which many doctors and researchers link to the mmr vaccine.
My son is 9 now and it took 7 yrs. to figure out what was wrong with him and let me tell you that was 7 of the longest yrs of my life. Not to mention I am 3rd generation Navy and I am sure everyone is aware that military personnel have no say in vaccines they get so who knows how many men an women are infected with something that they pass on to there offspring.
As for now all I can do is deal with my who has great days and really bad days but he is my buddy and its just horrible that he cant have the childhood I had and be a normal kid everyday.
And its really funny how all the doctors want to do is prescribe more drugs to try and counter act the damage they already done. We have been fighting with doctors for years to keep him off of more drugs. Its and uphill battle but with 9yrs. of trial and error routine is important and lots of love and one on one time really help.
So anyone else with similar problems I would really like to share ideas on how you deal with this nightmare. |
| Duncan Kunz
The Debunker King
User ID: 403024
5/31/2008 11:12 AM
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As much as you want a perfect world, you are not going to get it.
Some vaccines have harmful side effects; and people get sick and die from vaccines every year.
But vaccines also keep more people from getting more diseases and save a lot more lives than they cost.
From that point of view, vaccines are, overall, a "good thing".
Here in the United States, the powers that be (i.e., the powers we elect) have determined that you don't have to be vaccinated, nor do your kids, as long as they're not exposing other kids to disease. This means tht, if you want to send your kids to a public school where they might be able to infect other kids, you must have them vaccinated.
If you don't like it, you're not forced to do so at the point of a gun, near as I can figure out -- you just have to make other arrangements for your kids' education.
So what's the big deal? Your choice, right?
July 10, 2002 - July 10, 2008
Six Years as the Debunker King on GLP! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160240
5/31/2008 11:49 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
I just watched a special about this on Bill Moyers Journal. It was revealed that the last time certain ingredients were tested was on a handful of people back in the 1930's. |
| OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
5/31/2008 12:52 PM
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As much as you want a perfect world, you are not going to get it.
Some vaccines have harmful side effects; and people get sick and die from vaccines every year.
But vaccines also keep more people from getting more diseases and save a lot more lives than they cost.
From that point of view, vaccines are, overall, a "good thing".
Here in the United States, the powers that be (i.e., the powers we elect) have determined that you don't have to be vaccinated, nor do your kids, as long as they're not exposing other kids to disease. This means tht, if you want to send your kids to a public school where they might be able to infect other kids, you must have them vaccinated.
If you don't like it, you're not forced to do so at the point of a gun, near as I can figure out -- you just have to make other arrangements for your kids' education.
So what's the big deal? Your choice, right? Quoting: Duncan Kunz
Duncan...
I usually grin and agree with most of your posts but it alarms me that you really believe this. My great-grandfather and my grandfather were both medical doctors who rattled off the same line about vaccinations. IF ONE vaccination was given in an emergency epidemic for a specific medical emergency, this line of thought might make a little bit of sense. It also makes it easier to track actual benefits vs. side-effects.
But history has proven that common sense, good sanitation, don't go out when you're sick or when you can GET sick, and a handful of other such things, make for healthier individuals than the mass injections that are given to infants too new to even HAVE a way to process these immunizations. For example...some of the virus' that children are regularly given immunization for are as simple as what 10 years ago were called "normal childhood diseases". Have you ever noticed that the mass batches of kids are inoculated late summer/early fall...go to school...hit on Halloween and become sugar toxic...then...lo and behold....FLU SEASON! Immunities are low (due to the immunizations...) exposure to other kids and lack of supervised sanitation (simple wash of the hands and all)...LOADS of candy that change the PH in the system making all these kids vulnerable to the very "dead" germs that have been injected in to them.....AND...then there's the "need" for the flu shot which exacerbates the situation entirely!
I didn't pay attention to all this...until vaccinations nearly killed my second born. Somehow.....it made me wake up...... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 242935
5/31/2008 1:02 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Some vaccines have harmful side effects; and people get sick and die from vaccines every year.
But vaccines also keep more people from getting more diseases and save a lot more lives than they cost.
From that point of view, vaccines are, overall, a "good thing".
Here in the United States, the powers that be (i.e., the powers we elect) have determined that you don't have to be vaccinated, nor do your kids, as long as they're not exposing other kids to disease. This means tht, if you want to send your kids to a public school where they might be able to infect other kids, you must have them vaccinated.
If you don't like it, you're not forced to do so at the point of a gun, near as I can figure out -- you just have to make other arrangements for your kids' education.
So what's the big deal? Your choice, right?
Several problems here. First of all, how does an unvaccinated child/person spread disease to those that have been vaccinated? Unless of course, you actually don't believe that said vaccinations protect anyone from disease. The unvaccinated actually have more to fear from the vaccinated, especially in the case of live-virus vaccines that can be carried and even transmitted to susceptible people shortly after administration. That is why they warn you to keep your child away from susceptible individuals after they recieve some of these vaccines- they are CONTAGIOUS. where do you think all of the shingles cases in older people is suddenly coming from? But, conveniently, they have come up with an expensive vaccine for that, too! Perfect! Create a vaccine that requires another vaccine. Way to keep the cash flow going, big pharma! Same thing is happening with the streptococcus vaccine. It is causing super-streps to mutate, and now they are trying to come up with a vaccine for that!
The second problem is that the 'choice' given isn't a fair or real choice for most people. Homeschooling is great, but many people can't do it for one reason or another. So they have to submit to unwanted medical procedures/drugging of their children just to get them an education? What next? Oh, you have a 'choice'- you just can't get an education, be employed or leave your house if you aren't vaccinated?
As for not being forced at the point of a gun, wasn't there a situation this fall in Maryland where parents of unvaccinated kids were court-ordered to show up and get the shots where police with dogs (and I would assume guns) were present? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 443291
5/31/2008 1:10 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Remember the WAR ON CANCER?
It was a "medical Vietnam". In fact, Dr. Len Horwitz has documented in his book, EMERGING VIRUSES, and on his BioWar Connection tapes how Hitler's chief biowar virologist was brought over by "Nazi Hunter" Kissenger after the war (Project PaperClip), and put to work at Fort Dietrick biowarfare labs to perfect retroviruses that would reverse engineer the immune system and cause cancer with select genetic types.
When Nixon announced the War on Cancer, Fort Dietrick became part of the National Institute of Health from which different "required" vaccines came forth to inoculate the huge population bulge of "baby boom" offspring with seeded retroviruses that act as biological time bombs,
triggered by deficiencies in the immune system typically caused by aging, poor nutrition or other health afflictions.
So one-out-of-three Americans are now getting cancer, a rare disease early in this century. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
5/31/2008 1:44 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
As much as you want a perfect world, you are not going to get it.
Some vaccines have harmful side effects; and people get sick and die from vaccines every year.
But vaccines also keep more people from getting more diseases and save a lot more lives than they cost.
From that point of view, vaccines are, overall, a "good thing". Quoting: Duncan Kunz
Sure Duncan, it's all good. The mercury. The formaldehyde. The aluminum. The aspartame. The SV40 monkey viruses, bacteria and other micro-organisms. The God only knows what else.
The non-Hodgkin's lymphomas, mesotheliomas, leukemias and multiple myelomas. The paralytic polios, Asperger syndromes, ADD's and other learning disorders. The 1 in 67 children who are now autistic (1 in 150 was an old figure from 1994.) Strangely enough, autism is unheard of amongst the Amish. I wonder why?
Maybe this is all good for you, Duncan. But it sure ain't for the rest of us. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 443277
5/31/2008 1:46 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
This is a shocking but extremely informative video documentary "Vaccination - The Hidden Truth" where 15 people,including Dr. Viera Scheibner (a PhD researcher), five medical doctors, other researchers, and parents' experiences, reveal what is really going on in relation to illness and vaccines. With so much government and medical promotion of vaccination for prevention of disease, ironically the important facts presented here come from the orthodox medicine's own peer-reviewed research, of which a total of well over 100,000 pages has been studied by those interviewed. The result is a damning account of the ineffectiveness of vaccines and their often harmful effects. It shows that parents are not being told the truth by the media, the Health Department and the medical establishment, with a medical doctor, Dr. Mark Donohoe, confessing that "It is a problem for me that I am part of a profession that is systematically lying to people." Find out how vaccines are proven to be both useless and have harmful effects to your health and how they are often erroneously believed to be compulsory. Many people simply refuse to believe the truth regardless of how clear it is, but the impeccable documentation presented in this amazing video has changed the minds of many who have seen it.
[ link to waronyou.com]
WHAT KINDA DUMMY ARE YOU, THAT WAS A VACCINE FROM ROMAINIA, A SOVIET VACCINE!!!
THIS NONSENSE WAS STARTED BY RADICAL JEWS IN ISREAL BACK IN THE SEVENTIES, THEY WERE CONVINCED THEY WERE BEING TARGETED FOR STERILISATION OR WORSE, THEY BEGAN THE ANTI- VACCINE MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF THEIR PERSUCUTION COMPLEX.
AND AS FAR AS YOU MORONS NOT GETTING YOUR KIDS VACCINATED, THE WORLD MAY BE A BETTER PLACE WITH OUT YOUR GULLABLITY GENES IN IT, AND ALL YOU FOLKS THAT BELIEVE THE VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM, I HAVE BEEN VERY CURIOUS AS TO WHY NO ONE HAS DONE A GENETIC STUDY TO SEE IF THESE KIDS WOULD GET AUTISM FROM THE LIVE BUGS THEIR BEING VACCINATED AGAINST, IN OTHER WORDS, WHATS THE CHANCE THESE KIDS WOULD END UP THE SAME WAY FROM EXPOSURE TO THE DISEASE BECAUSE OF SOME GENETIC MALFUNCTION, THIS IS A QUESTION I'VE NEVER SEEN ANSWERED |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
5/31/2008 2:26 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
WHAT KINDA DUMMY ARE YOU, THAT WAS A VACCINE FROM ROMAINIA, A SOVIET VACCINE!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443277
Fool, what the hell are you blathering in caps lock about? It's not just one vaccine that's being discussed -- it's all vaccines.
THIS NONSENSE WAS STARTED BY RADICAL JEWS IN ISREAL BACK IN THE SEVENTIES, THEY WERE CONVINCED THEY WERE BEING TARGETED FOR STERILISATION OR WORSE, THEY BEGAN THE ANTI- VACCINE MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF THEIR PERSUCUTION COMPLEX. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443277
Again, what the F are you talking about? Perhaps you should read the thread to avoid sounding like an idiot. I wasn't going to go there, but if anything, Jews like Salk and Sabin were more the creators and advocates of the 1950's polio vaccines with a highly carcinogenic SV40 simian virus, rather than the victims.
I HAVE BEEN VERY CURIOUS AS TO WHY NO ONE HAS DONE A GENETIC STUDY TO SEE IF THESE KIDS WOULD GET AUTISM FROM THE LIVE BUGS THEIR BEING VACCINATED AGAINST, IN OTHER WORDS, WHATS THE CHANCE THESE KIDS WOULD END UP THE SAME WAY FROM EXPOSURE TO THE DISEASE BECAUSE OF SOME GENETIC MALFUNCTION, THIS IS A QUESTION I'VE NEVER SEEN ANSWERED Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443277
Say what? Autism from live bugs and/or genetic malfunctions? I guess the rate of genetic malfunctions has gone from 1 in 10's of thousands to 1 in 67.
Here's a real question. What's the chance autism would be unheard of in Amish communities? Why do think this is?
YOU'RE THE GENETIC MALFUNCTION. |
| OneWhoJustKnows
User ID: 441843
5/31/2008 2:38 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Dont forget the Microchips and Implants via these Vaccines which they have probably already started when people get Vaccinated. Babies at birth are probably being injected with microchips about the size of a virus at birth that probably switch off certain DNA ready to be easily controlled when they become adults. Of course the Reptilians race by that time will have their robotic humans to do their bidding mostly slave labor and mindless mind controled Soliders to be used to conquer other star systems within our own galaxy like the Movie Kurt Russel was in Called Soldier.
The Number One Goal is Control by the Reptilian Hybrid Race of beings running our so called joke of a government who will use the draft in the future to bring other governments under their control and HAARP to control the Weather and Earthquakes as a form of Blackmail. Humans to Reptilians mindset believe we are weak and pathetic with our emotions and that we have to evolve or change to adapt to our environment and believe themselves to be Gods over humanity due to their Androgenous sexual nature since they worship Baphomet the Reptilians Three Horned God. Since Reptilians evolve very little over time. They are the masters its seems of interdimensional travel. They can pop into are physical reality and overcome us with their lighning speed and bulk and then disapear outside our physical reality. They Phase shift from one reality to another in a blink of an eye. Their eventual downfall will be their being blinded by their belief in their own superiority over other creatures. We will defeat them by their perception of our weakness in evolving to the point of being Gods that are way far supperior to themselves and this is what scares them and they are doing everthing in their power to lock us down fron making contact with the source all creatures are connected to but they themselves are disturbed by this and rather not think about the same source they themselves are also connected to as well. The Tortise and the Hare Scenario will be played out by us beings in human form versus the Reptilians. If we are weak and no threat to them then why are they making every effort to dumb us down and belittle us and try to control us via mind control technology its because they don't want to admit we will sometime in our evolving will surpass them and be like Gods with more Wisdom and Intelligence then they currently have that is much like the source we all come from and we would not exist if it was not for this source that is ineffable. Some might think well we outnumber them no it not that since they have the advantage and we are at the disadvantage but only if we figure out what we need to know to remove ourselves from their influence in moving on to our final destiny our source and the very reason we exist is to learn things and become much like the source.
This is why we are being attacked in every possible way by our so called governmnet which is of the Reptilian mindset to break our will, capture our minds, cripple our bodies and attempt to steal our soul. These Hybrid Reptillians are also located in some European Governments and it is about control of this world we call Earth and to lock it down so their is no more dissent. The One Power you do possess is your mind that is not under their control via their manipulation of it via the media, religion and such disinfo in an attempt to throw you off the path to truth of the true source of your very existance. What scares them of you using your mind in union and harmony with the source that they know themselves they can not defeat since they would cease to exist if that was ever accomplished by them but is simply imposible and they know this as well. Many humans have a mindset that allows them to control you so if you correct that mindset then you will be set free from their influence and control and as result help others be set free as well.
But it begins on an individual basis since each has to do his or her part. And no their will be no Mass Ascension on 2012. You don't get anywhere in life if you don't spend the time in learning something as complicated as Calculus so you first have to do the basics and dedicate your time which can seem like a life long goal to achive your goal. Nothing is for free you have to earn it by your own efforts and sacrifice. This applies to all things including the religions of the world who makes promises of instant salvation without earning it since it goes against the Universal Laws that have been and will always be. |
| Agent Tray
User ID: 405737
5/31/2008 3:00 PM
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www.vaccinationnews.com
www.ageofautism.com
[link to www.vran.org]
where i get most my info.. Scary stuff.. especially when they give an vaccination (like prevnar) which then opens up a niche for more virulent strains and make the pneumonia worse..they forget a few serotypes.. that are worse.. and WHAMMO.. open niche for them to come in and cause havoc..
basic biology i teach to grade 11's..
then to top it off
The monograph states "Prevnar has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or impairment of fertility." The fact that the vaccine contains an aluminum salt is worrisome since aluminum increases the poisonous effects of fluorides children's bodies receive from many sources. (12) It has been implicated in many different disorders including learning disabilities, degeneration of kidneys and liver, and motor paralysis. (13)
The administration of Prevnar together with other vaccines, usually at 2, 4, 6, and 12 to 15 months, gives rise to another problem: trial data revealed that such combination may result in lower efficacy of Hib, pertussis and polio vaccines. No data for the effect on the performance of MMR is available. (2)
Finally, since Prevnar is very similar to the vaccine for Hib, it seems quite likely that its widespread use will also be followed by a change in the types and distribution of pathogens. We can expect another surge of disease and yet another vaccine… and so the vaccine merry-go-round will continue.
and thats only one vaccine..
Re: autism.. my son had a violent reaction to his 6 months shots (thats when i finally started researching them.. which i was more proactive on that) and we have autism in the family.. he is i believe, somewhere on the spectrum.. but functions mostly well.. but we have the hand flapping, toe walking, fan obsessed, staking obssessed, low eyecontact, schedule required, low melatonin (early bird) child here.. who has healed a lot since i stopped the shots (at 6 months) but i find supplements HELP a lot.. if anyone wants to chat about what i do there.. i am no DAN! doctor.. but ive figured a couple things out of my own.. you can PM me
Peace. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438798
5/31/2008 3:48 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Add in the 4lbs. of pestacides, the mercury fillings, the hidden sources of lead, the irradiated food, the phony terror wars, msg, nutritionally "dead" food raised on npk without minerals, and suppression of cures and technology which could make life easier and more affordable-no there's no war on us! Hell! There just dumb stupid animals! You could add another thousand items to the list and not half fill it with what's going on against humanity, ie poor schooling, zionist controlled media expousing reverse moral principles, open boarders durring a terror alert, loss of freedoms etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. No, I dodn't see anything going on-cause nobody else does either. Time to sniff some lead, eat a Chinese meal and polish my fillings and wait and see if my stimulous check makes it.
So true!
dunno wether to laugh or cry!
That was pretty awesome guys.. I'm amazed you ran across most of these topics as well. i don't know about you, but running across this kind of information was daunting and even more miserable the experience of trying to talk about it.
You mentioned most of items that I consider the "up is down" kind of ideas especially when you compare them to what we've been told and believed all this time compared to the information you find from the history that is the hidden kind.
You even got the obscure and mundane topics like the use of npk fertilizers (think cheap) and what it means to our foods (think quality).
When you look at all these ideas from a broad perspective, you really can get the sense we have been taken advantage for a while it seems.
It is only when people are not aware of the shenanigans, the shenanigans will go on. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341677
5/31/2008 3:51 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
 
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438798
5/31/2008 3:52 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
I can honestly say my son is one of the victims of this crap. He is one of the 150 males born in this country that has a form of autism known as aspergers syndrome which many doctors and researchers link to the mmr vaccine.
My son is 9 now and it took 7 yrs. to figure out what was wrong with him and let me tell you that was 7 of the longest yrs of my life. Not to mention I am 3rd generation Navy and I am sure everyone is aware that military personnel have no say in vaccines they get so who knows how many men an women are infected with something that they pass on to there offspring.
As for now all I can do is deal with my who has great days and really bad days but he is my buddy and its just horrible that he cant have the childhood I had and be a normal kid everyday.
And its really funny how all the doctors want to do is prescribe more drugs to try and counter act the damage they already done. We have been fighting with doctors for years to keep him off of more drugs. Its and uphill battle but with 9yrs. of trial and error routine is important and lots of love and one on one time really help.
So anyone else with similar problems I would really like to share ideas on how you deal with this nightmare. Quoting: Brwnstown
And then doesn't it bother anyone else that it really does feel like it really is all about profit motivations?
Sick people are good sources of reoccurring revenue in the present model doesn't it? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441665
5/31/2008 3:53 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
As much as you want a perfect world, you are not going to get it.
Some vaccines have harmful side effects; and people get sick and die from vaccines every year.
But vaccines also keep more people from getting more diseases and save a lot more lives than they cost.
From that point of view, vaccines are, overall, a "good thing".
Here in the United States, the powers that be (i.e., the powers we elect) have determined that you don't have to be vaccinated, nor do your kids, as long as they're not exposing other kids to disease. This means tht, if you want to send your kids to a public school where they might be able to infect other kids, you must have them vaccinated.
If you don't like it, you're not forced to do so at the point of a gun, near as I can figure out -- you just have to make other arrangements for your kids' education.
So what's the big deal? Your choice, right? Quoting: Duncan Kunz
this is erroneous...
i have three kids
their vaccines are not up to date...
each time i go to fill out the vaccination waiver, i am again reminded that in the event of an infectious disease outbreak at the school full of vaccinated kids, my kids would have to stay home for up to six weeks to avoid the germs the vaccinated kids are spreading around...
NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND...
each time! i have been told the waiver and requirement is to keep my kids, who have NOT BEEN VACCINATED from being infected by the VACCINATED KIDS..
pretty phreaked up eh? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
5/31/2008 4:09 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
I can honestly say my son is one of the victims of this crap. He is one of the 150 males born in this country that has a form of autism known as aspergers syndrome which many doctors and researchers link to the mmr vaccine.
My son is 9 now and it took 7 yrs. to figure out what was wrong with him and let me tell you that was 7 of the longest yrs of my life. Not to mention I am 3rd generation Navy and I am sure everyone is aware that military personnel have no say in vaccines they get so who knows how many men an women are infected with something that they pass on to there offspring.
As for now all I can do is deal with my who has great days and really bad days but he is my buddy and its just horrible that he cant have the childhood I had and be a normal kid everyday.
And its really funny how all the doctors want to do is prescribe more drugs to try and counter act the damage they already done. We have been fighting with doctors for years to keep him off of more drugs. Its and uphill battle but with 9yrs. of trial and error routine is important and lots of love and one on one time really help.
So anyone else with similar problems I would really like to share ideas on how you deal with this nightmare. Quoting: Brwnstown
I feel for you and your son. Not sure if being in the Navy spared you from the multiple experimental vaccine horrors that some of the Army vets were subjected to in the first Gulf War. Of course, if there were any problems or complications later, it was classified psychological and you were on your own, without medical treatment or disability. What is it, something like half of all Gulf War vets are considered fully disabled from either DU or experimental vaccines or maybe both? Anyway, just remember -- it's all in your head. Your government loves you and would never harm you.
As for your son, check out mercury chelation using DMPS that can be bought over the counter in Germany or compounded by a pharmacist in the States. Even though it hasn't been conclusively proven, I suspect the mercury in Thimersol may be responsible for both aspergers and autism. Someone actually won an autism/mercury court case recently, which is a minor miracle considering the way Big Pharma has been protected.
Dr. Mercola is someone I'd trust who has a mercury chelation protocol:
[link to www.mercola.com]
Matter of fact, everyone should sign up for a free subscription to Dr. Mercola's bi-weekly health newsletter, which includes regular articles on identifying and mitigating the ubiquitous toxins and health hazards that are courtesy of our lovely governcorpmedia overlords:
[link to www.mercola.com]
Good luck! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442773
5/31/2008 4:49 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
the main goal of vaccination is to avoid that the current bash of crystal children grow up to their full potential. so they just keep them dumb, sick and undeveloped.
same thing was happening for indigos on a lesser scale. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442773
5/31/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
also, there are the microchips and the money interest...
the principle of vaccination is in itself flawed: get yourself a little sick now so that you won't be entirely sick later.
this is bullshit because you will only develop immunity against a weaker version of the disease, the inoculated version.
sometimes sheeple are so stupid that it amazes me. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 443378
5/31/2008 4:58 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
My kids (now age 36 and 31) never had any vaccines/injectuions
... they both had normal childhood illnesses IE: measles, mumps and chickenpox (age between 2 and 5 yrs) ... since then they have been VERY healthy,
:-) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438798
5/31/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
the main goal of vaccination is to avoid that the current bash of crystal children grow up to their full potential. so they just keep them dumb, sick and undeveloped.
same thing was happening for indigos on a lesser scale. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442773
That's pretty interesting you mention Crystals and Indigos. From what I have read these generations appear to have a built in resistance to current forms of education, and their expression of rebellion seems to be regularly diagnosed as ADD or ADHDs.
This seems to be sad because these children seem to be all about expressing their 'inner power' so to speak, but are instead drugged from childhood.
It's hard for parents to try to teach these children meditation techniques, which is all about tapping into the inner power, but are readily willing to trust school councilor's recommendation to go the pill for life route.
Sorry for going a little off topic there, but this is interesting. Also considering that many of the additives and poisons used in food and water seem to itself cause symptoms of ADD or ADHD or what have you.
Restless mind, now that is the anti meditation isn't it? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438798
5/31/2008 5:10 PM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
My kids (now age 36 and 31) never had any vaccines/injectuions
... they both had normal childhood illnesses IE: measles, mumps and chickenpox (age between 2 and 5 yrs) ... since then they have been VERY healthy,
:-) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443378
Right on. It is reassuring hearing this kind of information from people who actually has tried it.
And even more amazing because it is so easy to vaccinate, but very hard for parents conditionally to keep them away from their kids. |
| coolhandluke74
GLP Bouncer
User ID: 429719
5/31/2008 5:14 PM
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I have got the flu Vaccination for about 10 years and every damn time i have got the flu afterwards but last year i did not get one and guess what? I got no flu what so ever.
So explain that one to me
Nothing is ever as it seems |
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