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| Queen 
User ID: 422489
6/1/2008 1:03 AM
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I have got the flu Vaccination for about 10 years and every damn time i have got the flu afterwards but last year i did not get one and guess what? I got no flu what so ever.
So explain that one to me
Because they gave you a bit of the flu virus every time they gave you a shot. Thats how you build immunity to it. And thats also why kids that haven't had the shots should stay away from the vaccinated ones when there is a virus going around. The vaccinated kids have the virus, its just not effecting them much. The schools are protecting you un vaccinated child from catching an illness they are not immune too. Quoting: A Concerned Canadian
I had the chicken pox vaccine given to my children. Several years later all three came down with chicken pox. Our doctor said it was a fluke. I guess that's the latest in medical terminology.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 442629
6/1/2008 1:03 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
INTELLIGENCE TEST
1. HOW MANY LIVES HAS CLEAN WATER SAVED
2. HOW MANY LIVES HAS GOOD SANITATION SAVED
3. HOW MANY LIVES HAS HYGIENE SAVED
4. HOW MANY LIVES HAS VACCINATION SAVED.
THINK BEFORE YOU ANSWER.
SURGERY
PRACTISED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, INDEED WE USE THE SAME TOOLS AS THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS, WOW THATS PROGRESS BUT THE MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH CAME WITH
1. WASHING HANDS
2. STERALISING TOOLS
3. VACCINATION
GL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442978
6/1/2008 1:19 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Okay, GL, you explain the AUTISM epidemic. I also have a son with Asperger's Syndrome. He will not have his last round of shots...no way in hell. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442978
6/1/2008 1:24 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442978
6/1/2008 1:28 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
"They started vaccinating in 1985 (in the Americas). Within 4 months they had 350 cases…They caused a substantial, huge outbreak of polio but they started ‘discarding’ most of the cases (put as flaccid paralysis)."—Viera Scheibner, Ph.D. |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 442629
6/1/2008 1:30 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
WOHOA HOLD ON
QUOTE
Okay, GL, you explain the AUTISM epidemic. I also have a son with Asperger's Syndrome. He will not have his last round of shots...no way in hell.
UNQUOTE
I AGREE WITH YOU
BUT COMPLEX MECHANISMS AT WORK MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO GET A BULLS EYE. THATS WHAT THESE MONSTERS (SEE SECRET CDC REPORT) HIDE BEHIND.
1. MERCURY IN VACCINES DOES SERIOUS DAMAGE TO BABY IMMUNE SYSTEMS
2. SO DOES ALUMINIUM AND FORMALDEHYDE.
BUT TO GET AUTISM OTHER FACTORS PLAY IN, IE.E ASPARTAME, TEFLON, CHLORINE, ETC.
SO TO IDENTIFY YOU HAVE TO GRADE THE TOTAL EXPOSURE RISK
AND THATS MORE DIFFICULT.
ITS LIKE THE FEMALE HORMONE MIMICS IN PLASTICS. WOW WE GET LOT OF WARNINGS ABOUT THEM BUT ZERO ABOUT THOSE IN SOY WHICH NARE BOTH ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE LARGER AND MORE COMMONLY CONSUMED.
GL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442978
6/1/2008 1:40 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
I've never allowed my children to consume anything with aspartame.
According to what I've read, polio hasn't been wiped out, only listed as another ailment. |
| ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857
6/1/2008 2:12 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Vaccines for me and mine are toxic
I supported the lies for decades
Once you are awake-there is no going back
MMR caused my son grievous problems-he had a bad reaction and I have training to know what was up
In another case recently, a small girl who was perfectly healthy is profoundly damaged now after normal and healthy development.
That was it and the recent concession that pharma vaccinations with mercury caused SEVERE DAMAGE for this healthy child
Time for truth
Nigeria
It recently came out how their 'vaccinations' for polio there I believe-so many died from this...they covered it up for several yrs-like many problems through the yrs
the contaminations, even trials in international courts with physicians who basically admitted it outright over seas-disgusting
until one has gotten past the shock-then the level of evil is apparent-and such simple things could change that
Like the Pinto and the fix-how many pennies to save lives was just too much by ford....pathetic
the greed
obscene, truly |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 442629
6/1/2008 2:22 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
FOOD FOR THOUGHT
QUESTIONS
BIG PHARMA SO ETHICAL AND WORKING FOR YOU, OK
1. WHY DO THEY SELL VACCINES THAT ARE BANNED IN USA TO 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES (THIS APPLIES TO DRUGS AS WELL)
2. WHY DO THEY TOP THE LIST OF BUSINESSES FINED FOR BRIBERY CORRUPTION, FALSE CLAIMS, FALSE MARKETING ETC, HERE WE TALK HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IN FINES.
3. WHY DO THEY REGULARLY COOK THEIR RESEARCH, CLAIM THEIR PRODUCT IS SAFE AND ONLY WITHDRAW IT WHEN THEY CAN NO LONGER DENY THE THOUSANDS OF DEATHS CAUSED. (BUT THEY STILL DONT GO TO JAIL AND THE KEEP THEIR GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS)
GL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
6/1/2008 2:26 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Look up how many children died from agonizing deaths from polio.
Compare that from how many children died from the polio vaccine.
millions vs 10.
I'd say that is pretty good odds for the vaccine, don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443529
No I don't. The facts are considerably different than you believe, which is not uncommon when people spout rhetoric about what they think they know without doing any research. Did you read the third post in this thread by the American Cancer Society about the polio vaccine that was given to millions of schoolchildren in the 1950s and 60s also contained a highly carcinogenic SV40 simian (monkey) virus, because polio vaccines were cultured on monkey kidneys, which are notorious disease carriers? (and which any competent medical researcher should've known at the time.)
Polio was unheard of in the U.S. until the 1890s.
The first major polio epidemic reported in the United States occurred in Vermont during the summer of 1894. It consisted of 132 total cases, including some adults. Causation was attributed to such factors as "overheating, chilling, trauma, fatigue, and such illnesses as typhoid fever, whooping cough, and pneumonia" (Paul, 1971, p. 85).
Not until 1908 was the actual polio virus identified by two Austrian physicians, Karl Landsteiner and E. Popper. Following their discovery, polio became a reportable disease entity, and the state of Massachusetts began counting polio cases in 1909 (Bradshaw, 1989).
[link to www.cloudnet.com]
Rockefeller University

Industrialist John D. Rockefeller founded the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research in New York in 1901. Karl Landsteiner, who identified polio as a virus in 1908, joined the institute’s faculty in 1922, and studied human blood groups (for which he won a Nobel Prize in 1930).
Much of modern virology derives from the work of Rockefeller Institute investigators, including Simon Flexner, Thomas Rivers, and Peter Olitsky. Albert Sabin, arrived in 1935 and joined them in poliomyelitis research. The institute became “Rockefeller University” in 1965 and continues to be a leading research center for the molecular biology of human diseases.
[link to americanhistory.si.edu]
At its peak incidence in the early 1950s, poliomyelitis occurred at a rate of 13.6 cases per 100,000 population. The incidence of cancer today, by comparison is 566.1 per 100,000.
[link to americanhistory.si.edu]
Upon closer examination with the dramatic increase of cancer rates, those polio vaccine odds don't look so good. |
| Fu Manchu
User ID: 4599
6/1/2008 2:34 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
I had children who became ill,they were in s.america and got typhohoid,yellow fever,dengue fever,cholora and tuberculosis,this was all cured within 1 week by a shaman who placed a piece of DREFT fabric conditioner on their foreheads for ten or fifteen minutes. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
6/1/2008 2:47 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
According to what I've read, polio hasn't been wiped out, only listed as another ailment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442978
Polio By Any Other Name: West Nile Virus, Post-Polio Syndrome, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and a Double Standard of Disbelief
ChronicFatiguesupport.com
10-02-2002
By Dr. Richard L. Bruno
On September 20, 2002, "The Washington Post" reported that the West Nile Virus is for the first time affecting the younger and healthier and has caused at least six cases of "polio-like paralysis," in arms, legs and even breathing muscles, causing several individuals to be placed on respirators.
Polio, paralysis and respirators. These words strike fear in the nearly 2 million North Americans alive today who had polio fifty years ago and in those who lived through the polio epidemics that terrorized the world. It is also frightening that the symptoms and damage done to the brain and spinal cord due to the West Nile virus and polioviruses -- different viruses transmitted in different ways -- are so similar: Nearly 1% percent of those infected with WNV have paralysis, almost the same percentage as in as those infected with polioviruses; up to 15 percent of those severely affected by West Nile virus die, where about 15 percent of all polio patients died due to severe brain stem encephalitis called "bulbar polio."
[link to www.chronicfatiguesupport.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 434826
6/1/2008 2:49 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Remember the WAR ON CANCER?
So one-out-of-three Americans are now getting cancer, a rare disease early in this century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443291
Seems to me that the choice is
1. don't get vaccinated and take a chance on not getting a nasty virus.
If you do get that virus you could be:-
a. dead in a few days
b. permanently disabled by that virus for the rest of your life and therefore a burden to your family/society for the rest of your life.
c. unlikely to reproduce
If you do get vaccinated then you may
a. still get the virus and die
b. get exposed to the virus and survive
c. survive long enough to reproduce
d. die at an advanced age of another disease.
I suppose we might look at the average life expectancy of people living say 100 years ago (no vaccines around then) and compare the average life expectancy today.
100 years ago you were lucky to live beyond 40, today people are living well into their 70s and 80s.
Now people 100 years ago weren't exposed to the same toxins as people are today, they ate natural foods, they were not vaccinated - so why did they only live such a short time? And why do we, with all the horrors that surround us - why do we live so long? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
6/1/2008 3:17 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Now people 100 years ago weren't exposed to the same toxins as people are today, they ate natural foods, they were not vaccinated - so why did they only live such a short time? And why do we, with all the horrors that surround us - why do we live so long? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 434826
A recent editorial statement from the Journal of Pediatrics states that proper sanitation was largely responsible for the early large declines in infectious diseases.
"...The largest historical decrease in morbidity and mortality caused by infectious disease was experienced not with the modern antibiotic and vaccine era, but after the introduction of clean water and effective sewer systems."3
Again, in a 2001 paper in the Journal of Infection Control:
"The conquest of infectious disease and the health revolution it initiated is arguably one of the greatest achievements of Western civilization. Yet the phenomenon is largely unknown and rarely taught, even in history courses...
Diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis vaccine arrived on the scene only after disease mortality rates already had been reduced significantly; measles, rubella, and polio vaccines did not become available until the middle of the 20th century, when most infant deaths were the result of other causes. The same holds true for sulfa drugs and antibiotics. Their contribution is unequivocal, but they did not affect mortality rates until the 1940s."4
Another paper published in the medical journal The Lancet in 1977 by the Department of Community Medicine in the United Kingdom also indicates that vaccines were not responsible for the decline in disease rates in that country.
"There was a continuous decline [whooping cough deaths], equal in each sex, from 1937 onward. Vaccination, beginning on small scale in some places around 1948 and on a national scale in 1957, did not affect the rate of decline if it be assumed that one attack usually confers immunity, as in most major communicable diseases of childhood. ... The steady decline of whooping cough between 1930 and 1957 is predictive of a linear exponential decay characteristic of a general and progressive lessening in the volume and spread of infection among the susceptible population. With this pattern well established before 1957, there is no evidence that vaccination played a major role in the decline in incidence and mortality in the trend of events."5
...Thomas McKeown, professor of social medicine in the University of Birmingham Medical School between 1950 and 1978, is still regarded as a major social philosopher of medicine, and is known for his important works in epidemiology and the practice and purpose of medicine. His conclusion was also that diseases were declining well before medical interventions such as vaccinations came into standard use.
"The distinguished epidemiologist Thomas McKeown (1912-1988) maintained that reductions in deaths associated with infectious diseases (air, water, and food-borne diseases) cannot have been brought about by medical advances, since such diseases were declining long before effective means were available to combat them."6
<snip> Fast forward to today:
Learning and Developmental Disabilities Linked to Environmental Toxins (2/25/08)
Autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), dyslexia, mental retardation, lowered IQ and other learning and behavior disorders are very common in todayís American children. The occurrence of these learning and developmental disabilities (LDDs) appears to be rising with between 5 to 15 percent of all children under the age of 18 in the United States affected. In general, these disabilities have significantly increased over the past 40 years and now affect more than 12 million children in the United States. On February 20, 2008 The Collaborative on Health and the Environmentís Learning and Developmental Disabilities Initiative published a Scientific Consensus Statement on Environmental Agents Associated with Neurodevelopmental Disorder. This statement signed by more than 50 national and international health professionals and scientists summarizes the most recent science about environmental contaminants associated with learning and developmental disabilities. The report that was drafted by this prestigious group contains over 200 scientific references. We know enough now to move on with taking steps to protect our children. This document pulls that knowledge together to further this vital effort," said reviewer Martha Herbert, PhD, MD, an assistant professor of neurology at Harvard Medical School and a pediatric neurologist with subspecialty certification in neurodevelopmental disabilities at the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.
[link to www.healthsentinel.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
6/1/2008 3:30 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
I meant to emphasize this astonishing statement:
Learning and Developmental Disabilities Linked to Environmental Toxins (2/25/08)
Autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), dyslexia, mental retardation, lowered IQ and other learning and behavior disorders are very common in today's American children. The occurrence of these learning and developmental disabilities (LDDs) appears to be rising with between 5 to 15 percent of all children under the age of 18 in the United States affected. In general, these disabilities have significantly increased over the past 40 years and now affect more than 12 million children in the United States.
Between 5 and 15 percent of all children under 18 are affected?!
This is nothing less than a national tragedy, but has anyone heard anything about it in the MSM? What could these "environmental toxins" be? Parents have an obligation to protect their children from an obvious evil that has overtaken this nation. |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 442629
6/1/2008 5:06 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
SEEMS THAT NO APOLOGISTS WANT TO OR WILL ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTIONS
GL |
| *Jean*
User ID: 443627
6/1/2008 5:18 AM
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As much as you want a perfect world, you are not going to get it.
Some vaccines have harmful side effects; and people get sick and die from vaccines every year.
But vaccines also keep more people from getting more diseases and save a lot more lives than they cost.
From that point of view, vaccines are, overall, a "good thing".
Here in the United States, the powers that be (i.e., the powers we elect) have determined that you don't have to be vaccinated, nor do your kids, as long as they're not exposing other kids to disease. This means tht, if you want to send your kids to a public school where they might be able to infect other kids, you must have them vaccinated.
If you don't like it, you're not forced to do so at the point of a gun, near as I can figure out -- you just have to make other arrangements for your kids' education.
So what's the big deal? Your choice, right? Quoting: Duncan Kunz
Without reading further vitriol about vaccines, I stopped here at Duncan'z.
He is right.
No-one is pointing a gun a your kids head besides you...
If your kid contracts a preventable disease, then you are at fault, and you will feel guilty for not vaccinating your child.
*STOP (stupid religion based) WAR* |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 427592 (OP)
6/1/2008 5:23 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Work in a nursing home after we give the shots out 10% die. They all get the flu and some die. The nurses get bonuses for vaccinated all the workers. I was never sick got the shot 2 and was sick all winter both times. Ill never do it again! |
| *Jean*
User ID: 443627
6/1/2008 5:27 AM
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Work in a nursing home after we give the shots out 10% die. They all get the flu and some die. The nurses get bonuses for vaccinated all the workers. I was never sick got the shot 2 and was sick all winter both times. Ill never do it again! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427592
WoW!
Are you drunk?
Sorry, you don't make any sense here, OP.
10% die?
*STOP (stupid religion based) WAR* |
| .
User ID: 424413
6/1/2008 5:35 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Logic,where to find you... ?
If other children at your school are vaccinated,then why they should worry about getting infected from non-vaccinated children...? |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 442629
6/1/2008 7:36 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
JEAN CLEARLY DOES NOT KNOW "THE LAW"
NEVER HEARD OF COMPULSORY VACCINATIONS
NEVER HEARD OF THE SHOTGUN VACCINATIONS IN MARYLAND
NEVER HEARD OF THE SECRET CDC REPORT
NEVER HEARD OF THOSE DEAD FROM BIG PHARMA DRUGS
NEVER HEARD OF THOSE MAIMED
NEVER HEARD OF PROTECTION FROM LAW SUITS
NEVER HEARD OF KIDS BEING DRAGGED OF TO BE OPERATED ON AGAINST THEIR WILL
NEVER HEARD OF PEOPLE BEING JAILED FOR SELLING HERBS
NEVER HEARD OF PEOPLE BEING THREATENED FOR COMPETING WITH AND BEATING BIG PHARMA
SAD
GL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440306
6/1/2008 7:46 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Without reading further vitriol about vaccines, I stopped here at Duncan'z.
He is right. Quoting: *Jean*
Well, I guess that's that! Refusing to consider a plethora of evidence from a variety of doctors and researchers, not to mention the testimonials of several parents who only changed their minds after personally witnessing the tragic effects that vaccines had on their children, by summarily dismissing anything that doesn't jibe with your world view makes life simple, but I question why you would even come to a site like GLP if you wish to remain comfortably ensconced in your beliefs. May I suggest Faux News?
Or was it simply to lend support to good ol' Duncan, one of the few nay-sayers in the entire thread, who no matter the topic, can always be counted on to compose some wonderfully logical prose in defense of the staid and official, like a loyal Butler serving his Master. |
| Draco
User ID: 282917
6/1/2008 9:24 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
 Vaccinations are good for you. Trust us, we know whats best for you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438798
6/1/2008 9:32 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
JEAN CLEARLY DOES NOT KNOW "THE LAW"
NEVER HEARD OF COMPULSORY VACCINATIONS
NEVER HEARD OF THE SHOTGUN VACCINATIONS IN MARYLAND
NEVER HEARD OF THE SECRET CDC REPORT
NEVER HEARD OF THOSE DEAD FROM BIG PHARMA DRUGS
NEVER HEARD OF THOSE MAIMED
NEVER HEARD OF PROTECTION FROM LAW SUITS
NEVER HEARD OF KIDS BEING DRAGGED OF TO BE OPERATED ON AGAINST THEIR WILL
NEVER HEARD OF PEOPLE BEING JAILED FOR SELLING HERBS
NEVER HEARD OF PEOPLE BEING THREATENED FOR COMPETING WITH AND BEATING BIG PHARMA
SAD
GL Quoting: GREY LENSMAN 442629
What is really sad is that from the list above, it is apparent who their 'masters' are, and it isn't the people. Quite the opposite it feels to be but not seen to be.
Another up is down. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438798
6/1/2008 9:40 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
I must say thank you all for this informative and captivating thread.
I want to thank you for all the good, concise, and detailed information you provided as well to better show a concise point of questioning. Also that so many people contributed as well.
What I mean to say is that, I am very pleased to see this thread did not end up losing it's impact from threads that regress into turd throwing.
I feel there was a factor of reassuring progress in the evolution of this particular thread. Also because it was so well handled, the remarkable ideas and messages is now better primed for serious discernment for many many people who have had questions about this topic.
Right on. |
| OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
6/1/2008 10:30 AM
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Very good OP. My daughter has not had one injection of poison her whole life and she's never been better.
Vaccinations are Poison@!!!! PERIOD...
Dear idiot,
Get a grip. Do you know why women had 6 children on average before the advent of vaccines?
Because half of the frigging died before they turned 10!!!!
Don't believe me, you child molester.
Just look at any graveyard.
Or any family tree.
You will kill your daughter.
And I will laugh at your grief.
Bitch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443529
YOU, dear AC...are the ignorant one. MOST of these deaths of children did not come from lack of vaccination from disease of any kind. SOME came from disease, yes...but more deaths were caused by poverty conditions where sanitation and common sense were seriously lacking. Proper nutrition was as much of a factor in loss of life as disease.
I recommend the old book "The Immaculate Deception" if you'd like further historical information. In addition, there is a more contemporary book written BY an MD (Dr. Robert Mendelson)in which he exposes the sorry and sure pathologies of the influences of the big pharmaceuticals AND their deliverables, ESPECIALLY vaccinations. (Giving actual patient case-studies of documented deteriorations of patients due to the impositions of vaccinations over the years.)
When "old wives tales" ruled the day, the sorry result was loss of life in general. Read a bit of history. |
| Brwnstown
User ID: 407881
6/1/2008 10:39 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Ok I already replied here about myself and my son who has aspergers on page 1, And after reading everything on this thread I started thinking about my time in the Navy from 90-94 first gulf war etc.
Everytime our ship would leave the states we were vaccinated for something: example we went down to mexico so we were giving a triple typhoid series 2 part shot as well as others the list depends on what countries you are going to. But my point is with all the illeagal mexicans flooding across the border why no out breaks of typhoid here millions are here? When did anyone here recieve a typhoid shot? And why on the msm do you not hear of tons of deaths in thailand or hong kong or japan or any of the other countries my ship visited on routine west pacs. Everytime your ship goes on deployment you are giving a series of vaccines but no one native in those countries ever seemed sick to me? And you never hear of crazy out breaks in any of the countries as well.
And for all the ppl saying we had vaccines and are fine now I hope you realize big pharm has changed alot of the vaccines today like the mmr one that is highly debated and linked with autism now. The school my son attends is for children with all degrees of autism it is privatly run not part of the school system here and all the doctors and medical prof. working there are the ones that have brought the problem of the vaccines to light here, and there will always be doctors who are paid nicely to lie for big pharm and cover there tracks until enough of us get together and do something about it. And I hope none of you have to go through what I have already with my son who is 9 now and will have of lifetime of trouble from now on dealing with his infliction.
I guess I just hoped more people would be opened minded and look for themselves but it seems no matter the case until it effects you your eyes will remained closed, I just hope those of you that are that way never have a problem in your family and can go through the rest of your lives believing big companies like monsanto and big pharm and our government would never harm anyone.
I guess agent orange and gulf war syndrome etc. are just fantasies. All the nuclear testing done here its all ok no problems there either right?
And to all those that provided great insight and links thank you from myself and my son. |
| Prick
User ID: 432031
6/1/2008 10:42 AM | | Re: Vaccination - The Hidden Truth | Quote |
Colloidal Silver it works wonders against germs. Hint don't believe the shit heads who would rale against it. Half (or more) of medicines elite are headed for Hell. Read the posts and see how what is common is to attack the personages of those against vaccinations. Medicine is a wolf in sheeps clothing. Think about it-work your whole life putting your few pennies aside and when you get sick from the accumulated poisons you've been feed and injected with and submit out of ignorance to a corrupt medical system you'll most likely be cut up and poisoned further and if you survive that you'll more likely get cut up some more and poisoned anew when what they treated comes back. Your whole life's work turned over to criminals with smiling faces and white coats. Medicine is a fucking scam! Grow up! Do some thinking, some reading against the established order of medical aristocracy. Medicine is one part truth (its face) to two parts lie (its body). The stuff that works is criminally suppressed because it's cheap and it works! The whole scam depends on ignorance. Don't blame the nurses, most of what they do comes from a good heart. Don't blame your doctor, chances are he believes the b.s. and will turn a blind eye towards any proof that doesn't line his white jacketed brothers pockets with gold and silver. Medicine is deceitful, corrupt, criminal, murderous, theiving, mamming, lieing, arrogant, and laying face down on the bottom while a long line of politicians and super rich and greedy take turns at the back side of the squeeling whench. Look at what happened to Royal Rife when he came forth with his cure fore cancer and virtually every known disease. Ask yourself, is treating cancer with poison (i.e. mustard gas) a good idea. Grow your own foods(hint don't use GM seeds or your reintroducing pestacides) without pesticides, exercise, get some sun light, drink clean filtered water, stay away from skanks, refined sugars and white bread, eat garlic often and you'll do way better than anything medicine has to offer. We live in an organised system of predation where the young and ignorant are the prey. Is the 40 or so percent of your income you end up paying in taxes really helping you? It's all a scam. It's the wolf saying trust me. Medicine like government is a whore bride of Satan. |
| OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
6/1/2008 10:44 AM
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And if you are of child bearing years, that means that you probably got vaccinated.
And look, you survived without any ill effects.
there is dumb. And there is dumber.
And anyone who does not vaccinate their children deserve to have them culled from the gene pool.
Look up how many children died from agonizing deaths from polio.
Compare that from how many children died from the polio vaccine.
millions vs 10.
I'd say that is pretty good odds for the vaccine, don't you think?
And whooping cough. Have you ever heard a child with whooping cough? NO i didn't think so.
Well I have. They can't breath. They basically asphyxiate themselves to death. While they are fully cognizant of their dying. Pretty gruesome way to go.
But go on ahead, and avoid the whooping cough vaccine. And then wail to the tv that "you didn't know."
I hope they throw your ass in jail for child murder. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443529
no ill effects? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Again, your example falls short of common sense. Whooping Cough is a VIRUS! While it can be frightening and even difficult to treat, there ARE other options for treating this (and other virus') without immunizations. But there is little or no money in this kind of treatment.
Have you researched at all where some of these new auto-immune diseases (which are enormously profitable to treat) come from? Ah....there's the rub.
But, I suppose that until you hold a viable healthy thriving 8 month old in your arms the day after those "shot visits" and see them non-responsive and staring into space like their brain had been shocked, unable to crawl or eat, or goo-goo or respond to sound like they had 48 hours earlier, you wouldn't know what I'm saying anyway.
NO...these reactions don't happen to every child all the time...and then again...sometimes they happen AGAIN...20 years later when they join the military...
ahem
SOMETIMES, it takes personal experience to understand what MANY have already lived through. Congratulations to you if you have children and if they never suffered any ill effects to immunizations...yet. If you have not...then you really have no place to stand in judgment over someone else who MAY HAVE had such an experience such as I described (or worse). You're entitled to your opinion, but the emotional "death threat" is out of line. |
| OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
6/1/2008 10:54 AM
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As much as you want a perfect world, you are not going to get it.
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Without reading further vitriol about vaccines, I stopped here at Duncan'z.
He is right.
No-one is pointing a gun a your kids head besides you...
If your kid contracts a preventable disease, then you are at fault, and you will feel guilty for not vaccinating your child. Quoting: *Jean*
and, Jean, if you submit a child for vaccination and that child dies or has debilitating trouble for the rest of their life, you will NOT feel guilty?
Preventable disease....hmmmmm
I don't think that Jean has done her research....
shame on you for spouting off about things you really don't know. Spewing the "party line" makes you appear ignorant and controlled. Maybe you should rethink your superiority complex. |
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