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gawd, not another User ID: 272341 United Kingdom 06/01/2008 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can all youse woowoos try to get your heads around the fact that we've had the 911 commission - where the greatest investigative minds in the land , with an unlimited budget' and resources & powers that were 2nd to none - proved conclusively that the official story was more or less correct in every detail ? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 442449 United States 06/01/2008 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Forensic Analysis of 9/11 [52mins] The best speech regarding the 9/11 WTC Collapses. No wild speculation, easy, laymens terms. If you're still on the fence, you won't be after this! Just under an hour, so sit back and relax, grab a coffee. The debunkers have been cleaned off the table! I guess I am what is called a debunker. I have a baseball game to watch in a few minutes. I'll watch this video later. But can you give a short brief summery real quick? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 435310 United States 06/01/2008 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can all youse woowoos try to get your heads around the fact Quoting: gawd, not another 272341that we've had the 911 commission - where the greatest investigative minds in the land , with an unlimited budget' and resources & powers that were 2nd to none - proved conclusively that the official story was more or less correct in every detail ? . wake the fuck up idiot. the commission report doesn't even cover everything. why do you refuse to accept these facts? what the fuck is wrong with you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 385879 Canada 06/01/2008 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even the staff members and commissioners had their doubts and believed they were being blocked from info. 9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon Allegations Brought to Inspectors General By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, August 2, 2006; Page A03 Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate. Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said. In the end, the panel agreed to a compromise, turning over the allegations to the inspectors general for the Defense and Transportation departments, who can make criminal referrals if they believe they are warranted, officials said. "We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied." Although the commission's landmark report made it clear that the Defense Department's early versions of events on the day of the attacks were inaccurate, the revelation that it considered criminal referrals reveals how skeptically those reports were viewed by the panel and provides a glimpse of the tension between it and the Bush administration. A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday that the inspector general's office will soon release a report addressing whether testimony delivered to the commission was "knowingly false." A separate report, delivered secretly to Congress in May 2005, blamed inaccuracies in part on problems with the way the Defense Department kept its records, according to a summary released yesterday. A spokesman for the Transportation Department's inspector general's office said its investigation is complete and that a final report is being drafted. Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said she could not comment on the inspector general's inquiry. In an article scheduled to be on newsstands today, Vanity Fair magazine reports aspects of the commission debate -- though it does not mention the possible criminal referrals -- and publishes lengthy excerpts from military audiotapes recorded on Sept. 11. ABC News aired excerpts last night. For more than two years after the attacks, officials with NORAD and the FAA provided inaccurate information about the response to the hijackings in testimony and media appearances. Authorities suggested that U.S. air defenses had reacted quickly, that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings and that fighters were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 if it threatened Washington. In fact, the commission reported a year later, audiotapes from NORAD's Northeast headquarters and other evidence showed clearly that the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft -- American Airlines Flight 11 -- long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center. Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold and Col. Alan Scott told the commission that NORAD had begun tracking United 93 at 9:16 a.m., but the commission determined that the airliner was not hijacked until 12 minutes later. The military was not aware of the flight until after it had crashed in Pennsylvania. These and other discrepancies did not become clear until the commission, forced to use subpoenas, obtained audiotapes from the FAA and NORAD, officials said. The agencies' reluctance to release the tapes -- along with e-mails, erroneous public statements and other evidence -- led some of the panel's staff members and commissioners to believe that authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what happened on Sept. 11. "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true." Arnold, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, told the commission in 2004 that he did not have all the information unearthed by the panel when he testified earlier. Other military officials also denied any intent to mislead the panel. John F. Lehman, a Republican commission member and former Navy secretary, said in a recent interview that he believed the panel may have been lied to but that he did not believe the evidence was sufficient to support a criminal referral. "My view of that was that whether it was willful or just the fog of stupid bureaucracy, I don't know," Lehman said. "But in the order of magnitude of things, going after bureaucrats because they misled the commission didn't seem to make sense to me." [link to www.washingtonpost.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 330053 United States 06/01/2008 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can all youse woowoos try to get your heads around the fact Quoting: gawd, not another 272341that we've had the 911 commission - where the greatest investigative minds in the land , with an unlimited budget' and resources & powers that were 2nd to none - proved conclusively that the official story was more or less correct in every detail ? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 443481 United States 06/01/2008 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BRAVO!!! I love the Canadians. Their scholars are intelligent, articulate and have balls. Over the last few months I've been working with some of them on a totally unrelated issue and have gained so much respect for our Neighbors to the North. And when you cross the border, you have MORE rights than you have here. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 442922 United States 06/01/2008 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can all youse woowoos try to get your heads around the fact Quoting: gawd, not another 272341that we've had the 911 commission - where the greatest investigative minds in the land , with an unlimited budget' and resources & powers that were 2nd to none - proved conclusively that the official story was more or less correct in every detail ? . Oh so you have'nt read that most of the commissiob has come out stating massive coverup? If no; shut the fuck up you spineless whiney apathetic piece of shit! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 445054 United States 06/04/2008 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can all youse woowoos try to get your heads around the fact Quoting: gawd, not another 272341that we've had the 911 commission - where the greatest investigative minds in the land , with an unlimited budget' and resources & powers that were 2nd to none - proved conclusively that the official story was more or less correct in every detail ? . you are kidding right?i mean you cant be that fukin stooopid. |
Anonymouse User ID: 439261 United States 06/04/2008 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol, yeah, I'm so persuaded by the moronic ramblings of a 45 year old "retired" religious studies professor... 9/11 conspiracy theorists are just cowards who don't want to face reality. That's the whole ball of wax in one short sentence. They are like little children who make up fantasy nightmares from their imaginations so that they don't have to confront the harsh realities of life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428351 United States 06/04/2008 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol, yeah, I'm so persuaded by the moronic ramblings of a 45 year old "retired" religious studies professor... Quoting: Anonymouse 4392619/11 conspiracy theorists are just cowards who don't want to face reality. That's the whole ball of wax in one short sentence. They are like little children who make up fantasy nightmares from their imaginations so that they don't have to confront the harsh realities of life. Are you serious? Have you actually ever OPENED your mind up to FACTUAL information(you know, points that CAN NOT be refuted, because they are SCIENTIFIC FACT)...people like you are just what you said, COWARDS. Cowards who are too afraid to stand up to their government because they are too afraid of being ridiculed by other cowards, commonly know as your "friends". Too afraid to question a government that, over the past couple months, has been PROVEN to be placing Propaganda all over the TV News for YEARS now. You are a COWARD who will watch 1 minute of Faux News and think you have been enlightened for the day, the same Faux news who has been PROVEN, without a shadow of a doubt, to have lied to you over Iraq WMD's and now Iran. Eventually, slowly and surely you people will start to see the GLARING Truths behind the 9/11 Murders perpetrated by GWB and his Neo-Con Nutcases. I just hope it's not too late. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428351 United States 06/04/2008 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if anyone calls this "Moronic Ramblings" you obviously have an Education/comprehension problem or didn't watch the video(I'll bet on both). This is the most Straight Forward, LOGICAL and easy to follow breakdown I have watched. Common Sense usually wins in the long run, and this is the Epitamy of COMMON SENSE. This video is Undeniable to anyway who has an open-mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428351 United States 06/04/2008 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a little background of Dr. macQueen I found: Dr. Graeme MacQueen, Graeme MacQueen is a member of the Religious Studies Department at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, where he is currently Associate Professor. His academic specialization is Buddhist Studies, in which he received his doctorate from Harvard University. In 1989 Graeme helped found McMaster’s Centre for Peace Studies, of which he became director from 1989 until 1996. He was also a founder and co-director of the Centre's War and Health programme committee and was co-director of the three year Health of Children in War Zones project funded by Health Canada. The project was active in three war zones. Graeme has recently been co-director of two projects in Afghanistan. He is currently co-director of the project Media and Peace Education in Afghanistan, funded by the Canadian International Development Agency. With colleagues, he has expressed some of the principles utilized in the war and health work of the Centre for Peace Studies in Peace and Change (1997), the British Medical Journal (1998), Medical Crossfire (2000) and The Lancet (2000). Graeme has been active in organizations committed to peace and human rights for many years and has at various times chaired the Hamilton Disarmament Coalition, the Board of Directors of Peace Magazine, and the National Coordinating Committee of Peace Brigades –International (Canada). He is also a committed teacher and has been awarded a teaching award for his undergraduate course, Theory and Practice of Nonviolence, as well as a Lifetime Achievement Award by the McMaster Student Union. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 287211 United States 06/04/2008 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have come to realize that people that believe the government version and want to believe it are very selfish individuals that really don't care who loses a life and has little regard for any individuals opinion about right or wrong. Their main concern is their opinion that their life is not hampered by anyone and will continue to live a very sad existance. You cannot look at what has been exposed and continue to dis-believe unless you just don't find it in your best interest. The fear has allowed them to create this just don't care attitude. This fear has paralyzed and crippled them from acheiving. There is an evil running in this world and those that don't want to involve themselves and could care less are those that support this evil and will stand accountable for their lack of concern or compassion. Reap what you sow, my compassion is as great for you as it is for those that committed this action and it wasn't Iran or Iraq. Thank you McCain, Obama, and Hillary for waking me up, your collective stance on issues involving this country has made me evaluate what is and has happened to this country by those that continue to perform the same covert activities as the USS Liberty. Prior to this election I didn't even know what this was. McCain you father was instrumental in performing the cover-up calling it a mistake. This was not a mistake, it was a failled 911 event that just didn't turn out as expected. The year 1967, it's been going on that long. People that want to dismiss this and ignore the government coverup are acting no more responsible than McCain's father in allowing USS Liberty to stand as a gross mistake. Sad, really sad, my heart goes out to you for the things you do to and against yourself. Your worst fears are in the process of finding you out. My only thought at this point is to wish you goodluck for the events government believers are bringing upon themselves. |
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henryk User ID: 272341 United Kingdom 06/04/2008 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh so you have'nt read that most of the commissiob has come out stating massive coverup? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442922why didn't they say it when they were putting the report together ? that's a bit like a jury finding somebody guilty - and then outside the courtroom saying they were innocent |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 333698 United States 06/04/2008 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent find OP, thanks! I thought the reading of the fireman's interviews/debriefing especially good. There is apparently clear abundant evidence for controlled demolition. It is sad that, among those responsible for the WTC crimes, one has to now include the personnel of the continuously silent MSM. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 133105 United States 06/13/2008 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol, yeah, I'm so persuaded by the moronic ramblings of a 45 year old "retired" religious studies professor... Quoting: Anonymouse 4392619/11 conspiracy theorists are just cowards who don't want to face reality. That's the whole ball of wax in one short sentence. They are like little children who make up fantasy nightmares from their imaginations so that they don't have to confront the harsh realities of life. |
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