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CHEMTRAILS: "Project Cloverleaf" An Airline Manager's Statement

 
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"I read the email you received from the anonymous mechanic and felt compelled to respond to it. I, too, work for an airline, though I work in upper management levels. I will not say which airline, what city I am located, nor what office I work for, for obvious reasons. I wish I could document everything I am about to relate to you, but to do so is next to impossible and would result in possible physical harm to me.

Airline companies in America have been participating in something called Project Cloverleaf for a few years now. The earliest date anyone remembers being briefed on it is 1998. I was briefed on it in 1999. The few airline employees who were briefed on Project Cloverleaf were all made to undergo background checks, and before we were briefed on it we were made to sign non-disclosure agreements, which basically state that if we tell anyone what we know we could be imprisoned.

About twenty employees in our office were briefed along with me by two officials from some government agency. They didn't tell us which one. They told us that the government was going to pay our airline, along with others, to release special chemicals from commercial aircraft. When asked what the chemicals were and why we were going to spray them, they told us that information was given on a need-to-know basis and we weren't cleared for it. They then went on to state that the chemicals were harmless, but the program was of such importance that it needed to be done at all costs. When we asked them why didn't they just rig military aircraft to spray these chemicals, they stated that there weren't enough military aircraft available to release chemicals on such a large basis as needs to be done. That's why Project Cloverleaf was initiated, to allow commercial airlines to assist in releasing these chemicals into the atmosphere. Then someone asked why all the secrecy was needed. The government reps then stated that if the general public knew that the aircraft they were flying on were releasing chemicals into the air, environmentalist groups would raise hell and demand the spraying stop. Someone asked one of the G-men then if the chemicals are harmless, why not tell the public what the chemicals are and why we are spraying them? He seemed perturbed at this question and told us in a tone of authority that the public doesn't need to know what's going on, but that this program is in their best interests. He also stated that we should not tell anyone, nor ask any more questions about it. With that, the briefing was over.

All documents in our office pertaining to Project Cloverleaf are kept in locked safes. Nobody is allowed to take these documents out of the office. Very few employees are allowed access to these documents, and they remain tight-lipped about what the documents say.

I am no fool. I know there's something going on. And frankly, I am scared. I feel a high level of guilt that I have been aware of this kind of operation but unable to tell anyone. It's been eating away at me, knowing that the company I work for may be poisoning the American people. I hope this letter will open some eyes to what's happening.

Again, I wish I could give you documented information, but you have to understand why I must remain totally anonymous."

[link to www.anomalies-unlimited.com]
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Once again, this is the news you won't find or see on FOX or CBS...
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Ha ha... I remember writing that "Airline Manager's Statement" way back when I was debating with/trolling chemtrail conspiracy theorists on Carnicom's message board. Someone else had written a somewhat poorly-conceived statement supposedly from an airline mechanic detailing all sorts of sinister harassment he endured for discovering chemtrail equipment on a commercial airliner. I don't know who wrote that one, but I decided to up the ante and wrote out the airline manager's statement and emailed it to Carnicom under an anonymous email account. In the statement I mentioned "Project Cloverleaf" as a secret plan by the government to spray chemicals from commercial airliners, something which even the most credulous person should be skeptical of. I just picked "Project Cloverleaf" off the top of my head. Now, around 10 years later, it's taken on a life of its own and apparently has become the official name of the nonexistent government chemtrail program. Funny how something I just came up with on a whim now has thousands of hits on a google search.

So, while you should be totally skeptical of chemtrail conspiracy theories to begin with, you should totally disregard anyone claiming to be a chemtrail expert who uses the term "Project Cloverleaf." It's an interesting study in how conspiracy theories take on a life of their own, and how conspiracy theorist pass info around, believing it without doing one iota of fact check. The saying, "I know it's true because I read it on the internet!" was never more applicable.
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You chemtards are a very special breed of stupid, aren't you?
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You chemtards are a very special breed of stupid, aren't you?
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Look up to the skies people and you will see chemtrails. Contrails do not persist and become clouds. Contrails do not criss cross in lattices as if intentionally painting the sky. And most importantly contrails do not have a switch that turns them on and off. I have videos of a chemtrail where the pilot turned it on and off and back on again. There was a segment missing in the trail. IT WAS NOT A CONTRAIL. For anyone who denies the intentional spraying of the skies you need to take off your blinders and realize the truth.
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You chemtards are a very special breed of stupid, aren\'t you?
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Unfortunately you are the one who is too stupid to realize the truth.
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You chemtards are a very special breed of stupid, aren\'t you?


Unfortunately you are the one who is too stupid to realize the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 814427


People might believe you chemtards,if the chemtards had't
been cought lieing so many times...
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So, who is lying? Is it the guy who claims he started the cloverleaf rumor? Or is it AC Griffith the ex-government employee or BOTH?

The first guy says that anyone who mentions cloverleaf hasn't done research, hmmm, I guess that means the guy in the Power Hour interview is the fake!

Why don't you show us a screen shot or a link to your carnicom "trolling" post?

Only a blind person does not see the chemtrails, every day. What is science other than OBSERVATION. Trust your own two eyes. Birds are dying, so are bees, gee, i wonder why? Or how about the skin problems with morgellons?

Bottom line is that they are spraying and the public was not consulted. My city hall admitted it.

islandonlinenews on YouTube is a meteorologist who has been documenting since day one, in Canada, in the video below, he points out how a city in Canada sued the government over toxic levels of the spray chemicals in the drinking water!


Anyone who denies the toxicity of the spray is obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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All the shills have is to call us names. What's that tell you?
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Commercial airliners don't streak across the sky only to turn around and come back criss crossing themselves.
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Ha ha... I remember writing that "Airline Manager's Statement" way back when I was debating with/trolling chemtrail conspiracy theorists on Carnicom's message board. Someone else had written a somewhat poorly-conceived statement supposedly from an airline mechanic detailing all sorts of sinister harassment he endured for discovering chemtrail equipment on a commercial airliner. I don't know who wrote that one, but I decided to up the ante and wrote out the airline manager's statement and emailed it to Carnicom under an anonymous email account. In the statement I mentioned "Project Cloverleaf" as a secret plan by the government to spray chemicals from commercial airliners, something which even the most credulous person should be skeptical of. I just picked "Project Cloverleaf" off the top of my head. Now, around 10 years later, it's taken on a life of its own and apparently has become the official name of the nonexistent government chemtrail program. Funny how something I just came up with on a whim now has thousands of hits on a google search.

So, while you should be totally skeptical of chemtrail conspiracy theories to begin with, you should totally disregard anyone claiming to be a chemtrail expert who uses the term "Project Cloverleaf." It's an interesting study in how conspiracy theories take on a life of their own, and how conspiracy theorist pass info around, believing it without doing one iota of fact check. The saying, "I know it's true because I read it on the internet!" was never more applicable.
 Quoting: Mr. Anonymous 1196150


And since we have no way of fact checking this, we'll just take your word for it.
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So, who is lying? Is it the guy who claims he started the cloverleaf rumor? Or is it AC Griffith the ex-government employee or BOTH?

The first guy says that anyone who mentions cloverleaf hasn't done research, hmmm, I guess that means the guy in the Power Hour interview is the fake!

Why don't you show us a screen shot or a link to your carnicom "trolling" post?

Only a blind person does not see the chemtrails, every day. What is science other than OBSERVATION. Trust your own two eyes. Birds are dying, so are bees, gee, i wonder why? Or how about the skin problems with morgellons?

Bottom line is that they are spraying and the public was not consulted. My city hall admitted it.

islandonlinenews on YouTube is a meteorologist who has been documenting since day one, in Canada, in the video below, he points out how a city in Canada sued the government over toxic levels of the spray chemicals in the drinking water!


Anyone who denies the toxicity of the spray is obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 Quoting: KillerSpray 1214232


I've never seen a chemtard that can explain how the people
incharge of the chemtrail program,and their family and friends are not contaminated with the chemicals..

And How they get the pilots and crew to spray their family and friends..

These must be highly toxic chemicals if they are killing the birds,the beas AND causing morgellons.

So how do they do it??
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Exactly!

Hey, now that I know you are on the side of truth, here are some sites i'm building,

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Well, i recently met Bill Hinkel {sp?} the state rep of washington and he only knew that they were military planes but had no idea about harmful effects. So, most people have not woken up all the way, it is amazing!

I have a young cedar wax wing in my fridge! Got it from AZ early december, and i know it is a young one cause i saw a guy on the plane with bird photos on his laptop, and said i need to show you something, and he identified it and he was TOTALLY AWARE of chemtrails! so i got his card too.

What was this young bird in perfect shape doing on the ground as if he was still alive, totally unharmed? And how about all the dead bees everywhere? The place i was at in az had many fountains, and 10 years ago, you had to skim the bees practically off the fountain, this year, i was sweeping them off the ground!

An article i posted from Time, which i had to correct cuz they were trying to say the bees started dying in 2006, but i lived on the east coast for five years, until 2000, and specifically remember they had to ship bees into Florida for the orange crops! So, the time article was misleading so that it would be impossible for someone to connect the bee death to the beginning of chemtrails around 2000! that article is at [link]www.bcnumber1.com[link] you need the w's and see my photo gallery there.
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Look up to the skies people and you will see chemtrails. Contrails do not persist and become clouds. Contrails do not criss cross in lattices as if intentionally painting the sky. And most importantly contrails do not have a switch that turns them on and off. I have videos of a chemtrail where the pilot turned it on and off and back on again. There was a segment missing in the trail. IT WAS NOT A CONTRAIL. For anyone who denies the intentional spraying of the skies you need to take off your blinders and realize the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 814427


really ? C'mon tard. Tell me why do they spray over the ocean where no population would be affected ?
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Ooops!

it should be site.bcnumber1.ca

there is an article there i wrote on the Dr Nicholas page about city hall telling my mom they are spraying chemicals in the air to clean it cuz there are too many chemicals in the air!

sp i went on youtube and found some videos about spraying over Hawaii! you gonna tell m e they have a problem with air quality!!!
wtf
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I always enjoy writing to your excellent forums, or should that be fora? I have an ambivalent attitude towards Chemtrails/contrails, and this particular forum has done nothing to dispel it! Maybe A. C. Griffiths and the anonymous person who "admitted" making up the airline manager's statement are 1 and the same!! Seriously, though,either this person is a disinformation agent sent purely to muddy the water, or else he is on "our" side, and just playing devil's advocate.
If the latter, so far, so good. If the former, then the whole point of item would be to cast doubt on anybody claiming to be part of Operation Cloverleaf, thereby providing suport for the official line that no such project exists.
cool2We all need to be aware of possible hoaxes, deliberate lies, etc., and to maintain a sceptical attitude. However, if you look at the so-called skeptic sites, they seem to be peopled with professional debunkers, who all have their own particular agenda, usually in line with the official story, to promote.
On the question of chemtrails/contrails specifically, I read on the internet (so it must be true!) that somewhere the powers that be had actually admitted that they had been spraying harmful chemicals into the air, but that when they realised what harm they were causing down below, this practice was stopped, and that now the chemtrails only contain harmless seeding chemicals to induce rainclouds where they are needed. Obviously, we all have to take this with a healthy dose of salt.
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"I read the email you received from the anonymous mechanic and felt compelled to respond to it. I, too, work for an airline, though I work in upper management levels. I will not say which airline, what city I am located, nor what office I work for, for obvious reasons."
 Quoting: maya2012


He means:

"Because I am making all this bullshit up"
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Once again, this is the news you won't find or see on FOX or CBS...
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ya thx for the info I wish I know wtf thye were doing but I expect it bodes ill for humanity.
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