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| 3c?
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6/5/2008 11:58 PM
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[link to www.legitgov.org]
[link to tailrank.com]
[link to www.digg.com]
and today the AF leadership was sent packin'....
EDIT NOTE: the details and timeline are chaotic, there are a number of mysterious deaths involving air crew, ground crew, security, brass and whistleblowers invloved with the minot incident - we are trying to piece it all together...
the meek are ready...
[link to threesee.mybrute.com] :nutkick: |
| malu 
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 12:00 AM
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i was just checking that out at work on whatreallyhappened.com and it was my first priority when i got home
so, i just walked through the door, have you read up on the links? any real confirmation?
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
| 3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 12:02 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
i just had to drop two links 'cuz the corresponding stories are GONE. think the others are good...
the meek are ready...
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| malu
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 12:12 AM
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here are some links to stuff i was going to check out, i don't know if they are duplicates:
[link to www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com]
and a link on who was providing security:
[link to www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com]
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446451
6/6/2008 12:14 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
If that's true, what are odds of that happening? Astronomical, I would say. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 303149
6/6/2008 12:15 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
I was thinking they wanted to get rid of them b4 the new guys get in office. |
| 3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 12:17 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
apparently it's true and they all died shortly after the incident - which, to me, is all the more damning...
the meek are ready...
[link to threesee.mybrute.com] :nutkick: |
| malu
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 12:17 AM
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sorry this is long but worth reading, and saving ;)
- SPECIAL REPORT --
Air Force refused to fly weapons to Middle East theater
By Wayne Madsen
Sept. 24, 2007
Author's website
WMR has learned from U.S. and foreign intelligence sources that the B-52 transporting six stealth AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles, each armed with a W-80-1 nuclear warhead, on August 30, were destined for the Middle East via Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana.
However, elements of the Air Force, supported by U.S. intelligence agency personnel, successfully revealed the ultimate destination of the nuclear weapons and the mission was aborted due to internal opposition within the Air Force and U.S. Intelligence Community.
Yesterday, the /Washington Post/ attempted to explain away the fact that America's nuclear command and control system broke down in an unprecedented manner by reporting that it was the result of "security failures at multiple levels." It is now apparent that the command and control breakdown, reported as a BENT SPEAR incident to the Secretary of Defense and White House, was not the result of a command and control chain-of-command "failures" but the result of a revolt and push back by various echelons within the Air Force and intelligence agencies against a planned U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional
weapons.
The /Washington Post/ story on BENT SPEAR may have actually been an effort in damage control by the Bush administration. WMR has been informed by a knowledgeable source that one of the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles was, and may still be, unaccounted for. In that case, the nuclear reporting incident would have gone far beyond BENT SPEAR to a National Command Authority alert known as EMPTY QUIVER, with the special classification of PINNACLE.
Just as this report was being prepared, /Newsweek/ reported that Vice President Dick Cheney's recently-departed Middle East adviser, David Wurmser, told a small group of advisers some months ago that Cheney had considered asking Israel to launch a missile attack on the Iranian nuclear site at Natanz. Cheney reasoned that after an Iranian retaliatory strike, the United States would have ample reasons to launch its own massive attack on Iran. However, plans for Israel to attack Iran directly were altered to an Israeli attack on a supposed Syrian-Iranian-North Korean nuclear installation in northern Syria.
WMR has learned that a U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional weapons was scheduled to coincide with Israel's September 6 air attack on a reputed Syrian nuclear facility in Dayr az-Zwar, near the village of Tal Abyad, in northern Syria, near the Turkish border. Israel's attack, code named OPERATION ORCHARD, was to provide a reason for the U.S. to strike Iran. The neo-conservative propaganda onslaught was to cite the cooperation of the George Bush's three remaining "Axis of Evil" states -- Syria, Iran, and North Korea -- to justify a sustained Israeli attack on Syria and a massive U.S. military attack on Iran.
WMR has learned from military sources on both sides of the Atlantic that there was a definite connection between Israel's OPERATION ORCHARD and BENT SPEAR involving the B-52 that flew the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale. There is also a connection between these two events as the Pentagon's highly-classified PROJECT CHECKMATE, a compartmented U.S. Air Force program that has been working on an attack plan for Iran since June 2007, around the same time that Cheney was working on the joint Israeli-U.S. attack scenario on Iran.
PROJECT CHECKMATE was leaked in an article by military analyst Eric Margolis in the Rupert Murdoch-owned newspaper, the /Times of London/, is a program that involves over two dozen Air Force officers and is headed by Brig. Gen. Lawrence Stutzriem and his chief civilian adviser, Dr. Lani Kass, a former Israeli military intelligence officer who, astoundingly, is now involved in planning a joint U.S.-Israeli massive military attack on Iran that involves a "decapitating" blow on Iran by hitting between three to four thousand targets in the country. Stutzriem and Kass report directly to the Air Force Chief of Staff, General Michael Moseley, who has also been charged with preparing a report on the B-52/nuclear weapons incident.
Kass' area of speciality is cyber-warfare, which includes ensuring "information blockades," such as that imposed by the Israeli government on the Israeli media regarding the Syrian air attack on the alleged Syrian "nuclear installation." British intelligence sources have reported that the Israeli attack on Syria was a "true flag" attack originally designed to foreshadow a U.S. attack on Iran. After the U.S. Air Force push back against transporting the six cruise nuclear-armed AGM-129s to the Middle East, Israel went ahead with its attack on Syria in order to help ratchet up tensions between Washington on one side and Damascus, Tehran, and Pyongyang on the other.
The other part of CHECKMATE's brief is to ensure that a media "perception management" is waged against Syria, Iran, and North Korea. This involves articles such as that which appeared with Joby Warrick's and Walter Pincus' bylines in yesterdays /Washington Post/. The article, titled "The Saga of a Bent Spear," quotes a number of seasoned Air Force nuclear weapons experts as saying that such an incident is unprecedented in the history of the Air Force. For example, Retired Air Force General Eugene Habiger, the former chief of the U.S. Strategic Command, said he has been in the "nuclear business" since 1966 and has never been aware of an incident "more disturbing."
Command and control breakdowns involving U.S. nuclear weapons are unprecedented, except for that fact that the U.S. military is now waging an internal war against neo-cons who are embedded in the U.S. government and military chain of command who are intent on using nuclear weapons in a pre-emptive war with Iran.
CHECKMATE and OPERATION ORCHARD would have provided the cover for a pre-emptive U.S. and Israeli attack on Iran had it not been for BENT SPEAR involving the B-52. In on the plan to launch a pre-emptive attack on Iran involving nuclear weapons were, according to our sources, Cheney, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley; members of the CHECKMATE team at the Pentagon, who have close connections to Israeli intelligence and pro-Israeli think tanks in Washington, including the Hudson Institute; British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, a political adviser to Tony Blair prior to becoming a Member of Parliament; Israeli political leaders like Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Likud leader Binyamin Netanyahu; and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, who did his part last week to ratchet up tensions with Iran by suggesting that war with Iran was a probability. Kouchner retracted his statement after the U.S. plans for Iran were delayed.
Although the Air Force tried to keep the B-52 nuclear incident from the media, anonymous Air Force personnel leaked the story to /Military Times/ on September 5, the day before the Israelis attacked the alleged nuclear installation in Syria and the day planned for the simultaneous U.S. attack on Iran. The leaking of classified information on U.S. nuclear weapons disposition or movement to the media, is, itself, unprecedented. Air Force regulations require the sending of classified BEELINE reports to higher Air Force authorities on the disclosure of classified Air Force information to the media.
In another highly unusual move, Defense Secretary Robert Gates has asked an outside inquiry board to look into BENT SPEAR, even before the Air Force has completed its own investigation, a virtual vote of no confidence in the official investigation being conducted by Major General Douglas Raaberg, chief of air and space operations at the Air Combat Command.
Gates asked former Air Force Chief of Staff, retired General Larry Welch, to lead a Defense Science Board task force that will also look into the BENT SPEAR incident. The official Air Force investigation has reportedly been delayed for unknown reasons. Welch is President and CEO of the Institute for Defense Analysis (IDA), a federally-funded research contractor that operates three research centers, including one for Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President and another for the National Security Agency. One of the board members of IDA is Dr. Suzanne H. Woolsey of the Paladin Capital Group and wife of former CIA director and arch-neocon James Woolsey.
WMR has learned that neither the upper echelons of the State Department nor the British Foreign Office were privy to OPERATION ORCHARD, although Hadley briefed President Bush on Israeli spy satellite intelligence that showed the Syrian installation was a joint nuclear facility built with North Korean and Iranian assistance. However, it is puzzling why Hadley would rely on Israeli imagery intelligence (IMINT) from its OFEK (Horizon) 7 satellite when considering that U.S. IMINT satellites have greater capabilities.
The Air Force's "information warfare" campaign against media reports on CHECKMATE and OPERATION ORCHARD also affected international reporting of the recent International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) resolution asking Israel to place its nuclear weapons program under IAEA controls, similar to those that the United States wants imposed on Iran and North Korea. The resolution also called for a nuclear-free zone throughout the Middle East. The IAEA's resolution, titled "Application of IAEA Safeguards in the Middle East," was passed by the 144-member IAEA General Meeting on September 20 by a vote of 53 to 2, with 47 abstentions. The only two countries to vote against were Israel and the United States. However, the story carried from the IAEA meeting in Vienna by Reuters, the Associated Press, and Agence France Press, was that it was Arab and Islamic nations that voted for the resolution.
This was yet more perception management carried out by CHECKMATE, the White House, and their allies in Europe and Israel with the connivance of the media. In fact, among the 53 nations that voted for the resolution were China, Russia, India, Ireland, and Japan. The 47 abstentions were described as votes "against" the resolution even though an abstention is neither a vote for nor against a measure. America's close allies, including Britain, France, Australia, Canada, and Georgia, all abstained.
Suspiciously, the IAEA carried only a brief item on the resolution concerning Israel's nuclear program and a roll call vote was not available either at the IAEA's web site -- www.iaea.org -- or in the media.
The perception management campaign by the neocon operational cells in the Bush administration, Israel and Europe was designed to keep a focus on Iran's nuclear program, not on Israel's. Any international examination of Israel's nuclear weapons program would likely bring up Israeli nuclear scientist Mordechai Vanunu, a covert from Judaism to Christianity, who was kidnapped in Rome by a Mossad "honey trap" named Cheryl Bentov (aka, Cindy) and a Mossad team in 1986 and held against his will in Israel ever since.
Vanunu's knowledge of the Israeli nuclear weapons program would focus on the country's own role in nuclear proliferation, including its program to share nuclear weapons technology with apartheid South Africa and Taiwan in the late 1970s and 1980s. The role of Ronald Reagan's Director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency Ken Adelman in Israeli's nuclear proliferation during the time frame 1983-1987 would also come under scrutiny. Adelman, a member of the Reagan-Bush transition State Department team from November 1980 to January 1981, voiced his understanding for the nuclear weapons programs of Israel, South Africa, and Taiwan in a June 28, 1981 /New York Times/ article titled, "3 Nations Widening Nuclear Contacts." The journalist who wrote the article was Judith Miller. Adelman felt that the three countries wanted nuclear weapons because of their ostracism from the West, the third world, and the hostility from the Communist countries. Of course, today, the same argument can be used by Iran, North Korea, and other "Axis of Evil" nations so designated by the neocons in the Bush administration and other governments.
There are also news reports that suggest an intelligence relationship between Israel and North Korea. On July 21, 2004, New Zealand's /Dominion Post/ reported that three Mossad agents were involved in espionage in New Zealand. Two of the Mossad agents, Uriel Kelman and Elisha Cara (aka Kra), were arrested and imprisoned by New Zealand police (an Israeli diplomat in Canberra, Amir Lati, was expelled by Australia and New Zealand intelligence identified a fourth Mossad agent involved in the New Zealand espionage operation in Singapore). The third Mossad agent in New Zealand, Zev William Barkan (aka Lev Bruckenstein), fled New Zealand -- for North Korea.
New Zealand Foreign Minister Phil Goff revealed that Barkan, a former Israeli Navy diver, had previously worked at the Israeli embassy in Vienna, which is also the headquarters of the IAEA. He was cited by the /Sydney Morning Herald/ as trafficking in passports stolen from foreign tourists in Thailand, Myanmar,
Laos, and Cambodia. New Zealand's One News reported that Barkan was in North Korea to help the nation build a wall to keep its citizens from leaving.
The nuclear brinkmanship involving the United States and Israel and the breakdown in America's command and control systems have every major capital around the world wondering about the Bush administration's true intentions.
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
| Claycat
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6/6/2008 12:19 AM
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OMG! It's amazing we heard this at all!
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare |
| 3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 12:22 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
thanks for that malu, of course Mosley's was one of the two heads to roll today in Washington. now what was the story a few days ago of a shootdown in s.e. asia possibly of another bomber taking off from diego garcia? near media silence on that one too...i'll go get a link...
this is all too strange.
the meek are ready...
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| malu
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 12:24 AM
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OMG! It's amazing we heard this at all! Quoting: Claycat
yeah, and this worries me,
The nuclear brinkmanship involving the United States and Israel and the breakdown in America's command and control systems have every major capital around the world wondering about the Bush administration's true intentions.
we have proven to the rest of the world that we will attack any nation we choose, and now throw all this shit into the mess, the nukes, the chain of command, just "who" is guarding this technology, the threats to Iran, the loss of confidence in the dollar
holy crap
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
| malu
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 12:26 AM
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thanks for that malu, of course Mosley's was one of the two heads to roll today in Washington. now what was the story a few days ago of a shootdown in s.e. asia possibly of another bomber taking off from diego garcia? near media silence on that one too...i'll go get a link...
this is all too strange. Quoting: 3c?
yeah i remember that, but i never got any good info
lol,, i still don't know if diego garcia got wiped out in the tsunami
i had a cousin stationed there, not a word from her, nada
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446703
6/6/2008 12:27 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
The Secretary of the Air Force and two 4 star generals just gor fired over this today!
-------->NBC National News |
| anonomous
User ID: 446540
6/6/2008 12:30 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
yea but north korea syria and iran pose no real threat.....they just mouth off alot.. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 303149
6/6/2008 12:30 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
So, the good guys got canned? |
| malu
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 12:31 AM
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The Secretary of the Air Force and two 4 star generals just gor fired over this today!
-------->NBC National News Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446703
that has got to be very rare, most the time they just send them out to pasture with the promise of a bullet to the head should they stray any further from the herd
i am thinking the making of a military coupe are underway, you don't get to be a four star without big time connections
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 57407 (OP)
6/6/2008 12:33 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
OMG! It's amazing we heard this at all!
yeah, and this worries me,
The nuclear brinkmanship involving the United States and Israel and the breakdown in America's command and control systems have every major capital around the world wondering about the Bush administration's true intentions.
we have proven to the rest of the world that we will attack any nation we choose, and now throw all this shit into the mess, the nukes, the chain of command, just "who" is guarding this technology, the threats to Iran, the loss of confidence in the dollar
holy crap Quoting: malu
the article you posted above theorized about a "revolt/push back" in the chain of command...the guys who reported directly to dick at the time of the incident were fired today. and the men who manned the plane are buried.
guess that takes care of that doesn't it? who'd "push back/revolt" now??? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 57407 (OP)
6/6/2008 12:35 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
yea but north korea syria and iran pose no real threat... Quoting: anonomous 446540
neither did iraq, afghanistan or bin laden... |
| 3c?
User ID: 57407 (OP)
6/6/2008 12:36 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
yea but north korea syria and iran pose no real threat... Quoting: anonomous 446540
neither did iraq, afghanistan or bin laden... |
| 3c?
User ID: 57407 (OP)
6/6/2008 12:37 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
yea but north korea syria and iran pose no real threat... Quoting: anonomous 446540
neither did iraq, afghanistan or bin laden... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446451
6/6/2008 12:38 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
"(AP)In somber tones, Gates told reporters his decision to remove Wynne and Moseley was based on the findings of an investigation of the Taiwan debacle by Adm. Kirkland Donald. The admiral found a "lack of a critical self-assessment culture" in the Air Force nuclear program, making it unlikely that weaknesses in the way critical materials such as nuclear weapons are handled could be corrected, Gates said.
Gates said Donald concluded that many of the problems that led to the B-52 and the Taiwan sale incidents "have been known or should have been known."
The Donald report is classified; Gates provided an oral summary.
"The Taiwan incident clearly was the trigger," Gates said when asked whether Moseley and Wynne would have retained their positions in the absence of the mistaken shipment of fuses. He also said that Donald found a "lack of effective Air Force leadership oversight" of its nuclear mission." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446451
6/6/2008 12:43 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
And anybody remember the B1 bomber that caught fire and burned on the runway? Coupe/purge ongoing-I tend to agree. |
| 3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 12:47 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
"(AP)In somber tones, Gates told reporters his decision to remove Wynne and Moseley was based on the findings of an investigation of the Taiwan debacle by Adm. Kirkland Donald. The admiral found a "lack of a critical self-assessment culture" in the Air Force nuclear program, making it unlikely that weaknesses in the way critical materials such as nuclear weapons are handled could be corrected, Gates said.
Gates said Donald concluded that many of the problems that led to the B-52 and the Taiwan sale incidents "have been known or should have been known."
The Donald report is classified; Gates provided an oral summary.
"The Taiwan incident clearly was the trigger," Gates said when asked whether Moseley and Wynne would have retained their positions in the absence of the mistaken shipment of fuses. He also said that Donald found a "lack of effective Air Force leadership oversight" of its nuclear mission." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446451
read: "neither incident was an accident at all, but we got caught and sumbuddy's gotta get blamed...and it sure as hell aint gonna be me or dick..."
the meek are ready...
[link to threesee.mybrute.com] :nutkick: |
| Pollyannuh
User ID: 46877
6/6/2008 12:47 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Malu, this sounds more than just sinister if it's true.
I didn't read all of your post on the subject because I've got to go to bed, it's 12:45 a.m.
I'll check back tomorrow, and thanks! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446703
6/6/2008 12:50 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
I liked it better when all we had to worry about was where the ciggars were. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 303149
6/6/2008 12:53 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
BBC version: Gen T Michael Moseley, the chief of staff, and Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne were both asked to resign by Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
Mr Gates told reporters that the security of US nuclear weapons and parts had been in question.
One incident involved the sending of nuclear weapons fuses to Taiwan.
Mr Gates said he had accepted the two men's resignations and that he would announce their replacements at a later time.
He also announced that former Defence Secretary James Schlesinger would head a senior level task force to "recommend improvements necessary to ensure that the highest levels of accountability and control are maintained in the stewardship of nuclear weapons". |
| malu
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 12:54 AM
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Malu, this sounds more than just sinister if it's true.
I didn't read all of your post on the subject because I've got to go to bed, it's 12:45 a.m.
I'll check back tomorrow, and thanks! Quoting: Pollyannuh
thanks for checking it out polly, appreciate your input when you get the chance
when we talk about the "powers that be" , i have always felt, that there are several factions vying for power, and i think, we are seeing evidence of a serious power struggle
i have read that there have been several attempts for a military coup d'etat, and it looks like we are in the middle of a big one
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 443491
6/6/2008 12:55 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Well, wtf?
Iran and Syria? No one is going to believe they have the bomb unless ... they were to use it. Supposedly, right? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 58109
6/6/2008 12:58 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
It is sad, but must keep it's reason of others.
Let all others touched by this black-rouge group consider the microbiologists, nuke incident airforce, and others before taking their orders. |
| malu
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 12:58 AM
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BBC version: Gen T Michael Moseley, the chief of staff, and Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne were both asked to resign by Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
Mr Gates told reporters that the security of US nuclear weapons and parts had been in question.
One incident involved the sending of nuclear weapons fuses to Taiwan.
Mr Gates said he had accepted the two men's resignations and that he would announce their replacements at a later time.
He also announced that former Defence Secretary James Schlesinger would head a senior level task force to "recommend improvements necessary to ensure that the highest levels of accountability and control are maintained in the stewardship of nuclear weapons". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 303149
damn, i have read so much in the last thirty minutes i can't keep it all straight, but the fuses for nuke missiles are very sophisticated, and small, the article said that a country like china probably did not have them, but if they went to taiwan, i would think the next stop would be obvious
funny how each president has been giving out parts of an ICBM to china, i would think the fuse would be the last item on the list
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446299
6/6/2008 12:59 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
OMG! It's amazing we heard this at all!
yeah, and this worries me,
The nuclear brinkmanship involving the United States and Israel and the breakdown in America's command and control systems have every major capital around the world wondering about the Bush administration's true intentions.
we have proven to the rest of the world that we will attack any nation we choose, and now throw all this shit into the mess, the nukes, the chain of command, just "who" is guarding this technology, the threats to Iran, the loss of confidence in the dollar
holy crap
the article you posted above theorized about a "revolt/push back" in the chain of command...the guys who reported directly to dick at the time of the incident were fired today. and the men who manned the plane are buried.
guess that takes care of that doesn't it? who'd "push back/revolt" now??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57407
So were they the bad guys, or the good guys? |
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