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Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD

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3c?
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6/6/2008 1:02 AM
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uh, ok...(maybe i missed something.)
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6/6/2008 1:06 AM
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U.S. sells Syria dual-use tech that could be used by Iran
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Halliburton selling NUCLEAR technology to IRAN!
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6/6/2008 1:10 AM
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WASHINGTON — The Bush administration has approved the sale of advanced dual-use computers to Syria.

"It's a major piece of equipment and is being given to an ally that could use it for military purposes as well as share it with Iran," an official said.

The export, disclosed by the U.S. television network Fox, was approved despite U.S. sanctions on Damascus of military and advanced dual-use systems. Syria, deemed a terrorist sponsor, has been in the same category as Iran and North Korea.

Officials said the State Department has provided a license for the sale of advanced computers for a Syrian border surveillance program, Middle East Newsline reported. They said the systems were being provided through a United Nations program that could significantly enhance Syria's military capabilities.

In 2004, President George Bush signed legislation to severely restrict technology exports to Syria, deemed a gateway of Al Qaida for the war against the U.S. military in neighboring Iraq. But the legislation allowed the president to waive sanctions on grounds of U.S. national security.

Officials said the U.S. firm Cisco would supply computers and networking equipment to Syria under UN program. They said Syria would receive about $2.2 million in equipment under a program termed "Modernization of Syrian Customs Directorate," launched in 2005 and meant to be completed in early 2008.

Cisco was granted a license by the U.S. Commerce Department to sell the computers to Syria in September 2006. The UN has confirmed the sale while the Commerce Department has not responded to the report.

A federal investigation has determined that the U.S. Defense Department approved the export of spare parts of the F-14 fighter-jet to front companies for Iran. The aircraft parts as well as other U.S. military equipment were said to have been purchased by brokers for China and then relayed to Teheran.


2. Halliburton Charged with Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran

Source: Global Research.ca, August 5, 2005, Title: “Halliburton Secretly Doing Business With Key Member of Iran’s Nuclear Team,” Author: Jason Leopold

Faculty Evaluator: Catherine Nelson
Student Researchers: Kristine Medeiros and Pla Herr

According to journalist Jason Leopold, sources at former Cheney company Halliburton allege that, as recently as January of 2005, Halliburton sold key components for a nuclear reactor to an Iranian oil development company. Leopold says his Halliburton sources have intimate knowledge of the business dealings of both Halliburton and Oriental Oil Kish, one of Iran’s largest private oil companies.

Additionally, throughout 2004 and 2005, Halliburton worked closely with Cyrus Nasseri, the vice chairman of the board of directors of Iran-based Oriental Oil Kish, to develop oil projects in Iran. Nasseri is also a key member of Iran’s nuclear development team. Nasseri was interrogated by Iranian authorities in late July 2005 for allegedly providing Halliburton with Iran’s nuclear secrets. Iranian government officials charged Nasseri with accepting as much as $1 million in bribes from Halliburton for this information.

Oriental Oil Kish dealings with Halliburton first became public knowledge in January 2005 when the company announced that it had subcontracted parts of the South Pars gas-drilling project to Halliburton Products and Services, a subsidiary of Dallas-based Halliburton that is registered to the Cayman Islands. Following the announcement, Halliburton claimed that the South Pars gas field project in Tehran would be its last project in Iran. According to a BBC report, Halliburton, which took thirty to forty million dollars from its Iranian operations in 2003, “was winding down its work due to a poor business environment.”

However, Halliburton has a long history of doing business in Iran, starting as early as 1995, while Vice President Cheney was chief executive of the company. Leopold quotes a February 2001 report published in the Wall Street Journal, “Halliburton Products and Services Ltd., works behind an unmarked door on the ninth floor of a new north Tehran tower block. A brochure declares that the company was registered in 1975 in the Cayman Islands, is based in the Persian Gulf sheikdom of Dubai and is “non-American.” But like the sign over the receptionist’s head, the brochure bears the company’s name and red emblem, and offers services from Halliburton units around the world.” Moreover mail sent to the company’s offices in Tehran and the Cayman Islands is forwarded directly to its Dallas headquarters.

In an attempt to curtail Halliburton and other U.S. companies from engaging in business dealings with rogue nations such as Libya, Iran, and Syria, an amendment was approved in the Senate on July 26, 2005. The amendment, sponsored by Senator Susan Collins R-Maine, would penalize companies that continue to skirt U.S. law by setting up offshore subsidiaries as a way to legally conduct and avoid U.S. sanctions under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA).

A letter, drafted by trade groups representing corporate executives, vehemently objected to the amendment, saying it would lead to further hatred and perhaps incite terrorist attacks on the U.S. and “greatly strain relations with the United States primary trading partners.” The letter warned that, “Foreign governments view U.S. efforts to dictate their foreign and commercial policy as violations of sovereignty often leading them to adopt retaliatory measures more at odds with U.S. goals.”

Collins supports the legislation, stating, “It prevents U.S. corporations from creating a shell company somewhere else in order to do business with rogue, terror-sponsoring nations such as Syria and Iran. The bottom line is that if a U.S. company is evading sanctions to do business with one of these countries, they are helping to prop up countries that support terrorism—most often aimed against America.

UPDATE BY JASON LEOPOLD

During a trip to the Middle East in March 1996, Vice President Dick Cheney told a group of mostly U.S. businessmen that Congress should ease sanctions in Iran and Libya to foster better relationships, a statement that, in hindsight, is completely hypocritical considering the Bush administration’s foreign policy.

“Let me make a generalized statement about a trend I see in the U.S. Congress that I find disturbing, that applies not only with respect to the Iranian situation but a number of others as well,” Cheney said. “I think we Americans sometimes make mistakes . . . There seems to be an assumption that somehow we know what’s best for everybody else and that we are going to use our economic clout to get everybody else to live the way we would like.”

Cheney was the chief executive of Halliburton Corporation at the time he uttered those words. It was Cheney who directed Halliburton toward aggressive business dealings with Iran—in violation of U.S. law—in the mid-1990s, which continued through 2005 and is the reason Iran has the capability to enrich weapons-grade uranium.

It was Halliburton’s secret sale of centrifuges to Iran that helped get the uranium enrichment program off the ground, according to a three-year investigation that includes interviews conducted with more than a dozen current and former Halliburton employees.

If the U.S. ends up engaged in a war with Iran in the future, Cheney and Halliburton will bear the brunt of the blame.
But this shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone who has been following Halliburton’s business activities over the past decade. The company has a long, documented history of violating U.S. sanctions and conducting business with so-called rogue nations.

No, what’s disturbing about these facts is how little attention it has received from the mainstream media. But the public record speaks for itself, as do the thousands of pages of documents obtained by various federal agencies that show how Halliburton’s business dealings in Iran helped fund terrorist activities there—including the country’s nuclear enrichment program.

When I asked Wendy Hall, a spokeswoman for Halliburton, a couple of years ago if Halliburton would stop doing business with Iran because of concerns that the company helped fund terrorism she said, “No.” “We believe that decisions as to the nature of such governments and their actions are better made by governmental authorities and international entities such as the United Nations as opposed to individual persons or companies,” Hall said. “Putting politics aside, we and our affiliates operate in countries to the extent it is legally permissible, where our customers are active as they expect us to provide oilfield services support to their international operations. “We do not always agree with policies or actions of governments in every place that we do business and make no excuses for their behaviors. Due to the long-term nature of our business and the inevitability of political and social change, it is neither prudent nor appropriate for our company to establish our own country-by-country foreign policy.”

Halliburton first started doing business in Iran as early as 1995, while Vice President Cheney was chief executive of the company and in possible violation of U.S. sanctions.

An executive order signed by former President Bill Clinton in March 1995 prohibits “new investments (in Iran) by U.S. persons, including commitment of funds or other assets.” It also bars U.S. companies from performing services “that would benefit the Iranian oil industry” and provide Iran with the financial means to engage in terrorist activity.

When Bush and Cheney came into office in 2001, their administration decided it would not punish foreign oil and gas companies that invest in those countries. The sanctions imposed on countries like Iran and Libya before Bush became president were blasted by Cheney, who gave frequent speeches on the need for U.S. companies to compete with their foreign competitors, despite claims that those countries may have ties to terrorism.

“I think we’d be better off if we, in fact, backed off those sanctions (on Iran), didn’t try to impose secondary boycotts on companies . . . trying to do business over there . . . and instead started to rebuild those relationships,” Cheney said during a 1998 business trip to Sydney, Australia, according to Australia’s Illawarra Mercury newspaper.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446451
6/6/2008 1:13 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

OMG! It's amazing we heard this at all!



yeah, and this worries me,

The nuclear brinkmanship involving the United States and Israel and the breakdown in America's command and control systems have every major capital around the world wondering about the Bush administration's true intentions.

we have proven to the rest of the world that we will attack any nation we choose, and now throw all this shit into the mess, the nukes, the chain of command, just "who" is guarding this technology, the threats to Iran, the loss of confidence in the dollar

holy crap


the article you posted above theorized about a "revolt/push back" in the chain of command...the guys who reported directly to dick at the time of the incident were fired today. and the men who manned the plane are buried.

guess that takes care of that doesn't it? who'd "push back/revolt" now???



So were they the bad guys, or the good guys?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446299

It would be nice to know wouldn't it? In these matters, they all believe God is with them. It's a big ruckus. How it turns out? Guess we will have to wait and see?
malu Subscriber
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 1:16 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

here is another link on the story, sorry if it is a dupe:

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When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446451
6/6/2008 1:27 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

here is another link on the story, sorry if it is a dupe:

[link to groups.google.com]
 Quoting: malu

The hazy story lines in all of this-considering the ramifications-are mind boggling to me. First it was 6 nukes missing, then 5, then 6...6 or 5-who's counting. Then the the nuke trigger fuses that went to Taiwan labeled as helicopter batteries- in 2005, but no, it was 2006; depending on who you read. and finally, someone noticed. Well they are firing some people now, the middle of 2008. Unbelievable!
Cimbrian
User ID: 446722
6/6/2008 1:28 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

I just wonder... with all the talk there was a few months ago about a possible threat of a terrorist nuclear attack on American soil ... Mayhaps these missiles were planned to bear that label?
Wherever you go there you are!
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User ID: 446726
6/6/2008 1:31 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Hi Malu.

As its you I am going to spell it out real clear. Runway to orbit in one shot as they say.

6 cruise missiles were going to Iraq. They were then going to go over land to Syria. Syria was going to wait a few months till transporting them over land into Iran via the north corridor across iraq.

Iran was then going to use 4 against US forces in Iraq, one against Saudi oil fields and one against Israel taking out tel-Aviv.

This was to give a joint USA / Muslim world ala Desert storm coalition against iran. The Muslim world would see how big and bad Iran were and help take them out.

Now, during a fuck up 4 didn't have fuses. these were rushed via the hush bag to Taiwan, where Chinese forces were waiting to take them straight to Iran.

True patriots discovered this, and took the action that led to their deaths. True patriots tried to defend these men to the last and instead of dying (which is an attention grabber. An airmens not news, a general is) they got the chop.

This my good friend is what went down that dreadful day. A crew discovered they were carrying live weapons because as they had been badly tampered with the alerted the crews via radiation detectors that they were live weapons.

The top brass rallied as hard as they could, but lets just say loaded guns were in the room.

Patriots took a stand against WW III and a mad mans dreams, they paid the highest price for us to live in saftey from this mad cabale of bastards.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 57407 (OP)
6/6/2008 1:36 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

...meanwhile, there are those six deaths. On July 20, 1st Lt. Weston
Kissel, a 28-year-old B-52 pilot from Minot, died in a motorcycle
accident while on home leave in Tennessee.

Another Minot B-52 pilot, 20-year-old Adam Barrs, died on July 5
in Minot when a car he was riding in, driven by another Minot airman,
Stephen Garrett, went off the road, hit a tree, and caught fire.
Airman Garrett was brought to the hospital in critical condition
and has since been charged with negligent homicide.

Two more Air Force personnel, Senior Airman Clint Huff, 29, of
Barksdale AFB, and his wife Linda died on Sept. 15 in nearby
Shreveport, Louisiana, when Huff reportedly attempted to pass a van
in a no-passing zone on his motorcycle, and the van made a left-hand
turn, striking them.


Then there are two reported suicides, which both occurred within
days of the flight. One involved Todd Blue, a 20-year-old airman
who was in a unit that guarded weapons at Minot. He reportedly shot
himself in the head on Sept. 11 while on a visit to his family
in
Wytheville, Virginia. Local police investigators termed his death
a suicide.

The second suicide, on Aug. 30, was John Frueh, a special forces
weather commando at the Air Force's Special Operations command
headquartered at Hurlburt AFB in Florida. Hurlburt's website says,
"Every night, as millions of Americans sleep peacefully under the
blanket of freedom," Air Force Special Operations commandos work
"in deep dark places, far away from home, risking their lives to
keep that blanket safe."

Frueh, 33, a married father of two who had just received approval
for promotion from captain to major
, reportedly flew from Florida
to Portland, Oregon, for a friend's wedding. He never showed up.
Instead, he called on Aug. 29, the day the missiles were loaded,
from an interstate pull-off
just outside Portland to say he was
going for a hike in a park nearby. (It is not clear why he was at
a highway rest stop as he had no car.)
A day later, back in Portland,
he rented a car at the airport, again calling his family. After he
failed to appear at the wedding, his family filed a missing person's
report with the Portland police. The Sheriff's Department in remote
Skamania County, Washington, found Frueh's rental car ten days later
on the side of a road nearly 120 miles from the airport in a remote
area of Badger Peak. Search dogs found his body in the woods. His
death was ruled a suicide, though neither the sheriff's investigator
nor the medical examiner would give details. What makes this alleged
suicide odd, however, is that the sheriff reports that Frueh had
with him a knapsack containing a GPS locator and a videocam -- odd
equipment for someone intent on ending his life.
3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 1:41 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Hi Malu.

As its you I am going to spell it out real clear...
 Quoting: ./ / / /. 446726


uh...ok, now I know i've missed something...
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446736
6/6/2008 1:48 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

...meanwhile, there are those six deaths. On July 20, 1st Lt. Weston
Kissel, a 28-year-old B-52 pilot from Minot, died in a motorcycle
accident while on home leave in Tennessee.

Another Minot B-52 pilot, 20-year-old Adam Barrs, died on July 5
in Minot when a car he was riding in, driven by another Minot airman,
Stephen Garrett, went off the road, hit a tree, and caught fire.
Airman Garrett was brought to the hospital in critical condition
and has since been charged with negligent homicide.

Two more Air Force personnel, Senior Airman Clint Huff, 29, of
Barksdale AFB, and his wife Linda died on Sept. 15 in nearby
Shreveport, Louisiana, when Huff reportedly attempted to pass a van
in a no-passing zone on his motorcycle, and the van made a left-hand
turn, striking them.


Then there are two reported suicides, which both occurred within
days of the flight. One involved Todd Blue, a 20-year-old airman
who was in a unit that guarded weapons at Minot. He reportedly shot
himself in the head on Sept. 11 while on a visit to his family
in
Wytheville, Virginia. Local police investigators termed his death
a suicide.

The second suicide, on Aug. 30, was John Frueh, a special forces
weather commando at the Air Force's Special Operations command
headquartered at Hurlburt AFB in Florida. Hurlburt's website says,
"Every night, as millions of Americans sleep peacefully under the
blanket of freedom," Air Force Special Operations commandos work
"in deep dark places, far away from home, risking their lives to
keep that blanket safe."

Frueh, 33, a married father of two who had just received approval
for promotion from captain to major
, reportedly flew from Florida
to Portland, Oregon, for a friend's wedding. He never showed up.
Instead, he called on Aug. 29, the day the missiles were loaded,
from an interstate pull-off
just outside Portland to say he was
going for a hike in a park nearby. (It is not clear why he was at
a highway rest stop as he had no car.)
A day later, back in Portland,
he rented a car at the airport, again calling his family. After he
failed to appear at the wedding, his family filed a missing person's
report with the Portland police. The Sheriff's Department in remote
Skamania County, Washington, found Frueh's rental car ten days later
on the side of a road nearly 120 miles from the airport in a remote
area of Badger Peak. Search dogs found his body in the woods. His
death was ruled a suicide, though neither the sheriff's investigator
nor the medical examiner would give details. What makes this alleged
suicide odd, however, is that the sheriff reports that Frueh had
with him a knapsack containing a GPS locator and a videocam -- odd
equipment for someone intent on ending his life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57407


So who confirms these guys were the crew of that B-52? At least one of them wasn't even aircrew, he was a special forces guy.
malu Subscriber
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 1:50 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

446726

my thoughts exactly

i think this is far from being over
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
6/6/2008 1:51 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

bump
malu Subscriber
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 1:51 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

So who confirms these guys were the crew of that B-52? At least one of them wasn't even aircrew, he was a special forces guy.


it is my understanding that anyone around nukes has a keeper, and there are very strict procedures that are followed, and if the timing is late/wrong, and something is not done exactly as it should be, this persons job is to kill them on the spot
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 1:54 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

So who confirms these guys were the crew of that B-52? At least one of them wasn't even aircrew, he was a special forces guy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446736


no, your right there - some apparently were flight crew and some were involved with the guarding/loading of the munitions...ground crew i guess involved with the flight? that's kinda what we are trying to suss out here...
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6/6/2008 1:54 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Guys....the nuke incident happened in Sep't 07...how many of these guys died in July and Aug 07 ?.....fuck it, it's a good conspiracy...you get a pin...!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446736
6/6/2008 1:56 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Guys....the nuke incident happened in Sep't 07...how many of these guys died in July and Aug 07 ?.....fuck it, it's a good conspiracy...you get a pin...!
 Quoting: SHR


Zombie flight crew! That's even better.

NOW I can get into this theory.
malu Subscriber
User ID: 421073
6/6/2008 1:59 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Guys....the nuke incident happened in Sep't 07...how many of these guys died in July and Aug 07 ?.....fuck it, it's a good conspiracy...you get a pin...!
 Quoting: SHR



then we have the wrong guys, they can't be part of the flight crew if they were dead, now i am missing something
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 2:01 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

cool SHR. maybe with the pin we can get help figuring this all out...
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 445884
6/6/2008 2:02 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Guys....the nuke incident happened in Sep't 07...how many of these guys died in July and Aug 07 ?.....fuck it, it's a good conspiracy...you get a pin...!
 Quoting: SHR


Oh my God SHR!!! You're the man. It's about time something like this gets pinned. I thought someone hijacked the controls when I seen this pinned until I read your post. Good work!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
6/6/2008 2:03 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Excerpt of Part II of story at waynemadsenreport.com

Part II of a two-part series

Between August 24 and September 6, 2007, the U.S. Air Force's nuclear chain-of-command was severely compromised by a rival chain established out of Vice President Dick Cheney's office and extending through the offices of the Air Force Secretary and Chief of Staff, the Air Force's Cyber-Warfare element, and into the strategic bombing commands located at Minot and Barksdale Air Force Bases. In the weeks before and after this time period, there is ample evidence to suggest that the security of nuclear weapons, particularly at Minot, was placed in severe jeopardy by the rival chain-of-command.

On August 24, 2007, three B-52s operating from Barksdale flew a training exercise called REX REDUX, officially billed as a commemoration of a 1938 B-17 flight directed at the Italian luxury liner SS Rex. The exercise, personally ordered by Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael Moseley, was actually testing an Israeli-developed imaging and targeting pod called LITENING II on a U.S. Navy contracted merchant vessel, the USNS Bobo, in the Atlantic east of Bermuda and several targets of opportunity along the planes' flight paths through the southern United States.

REX REDUX also involved assets of the Air Force's embryonic Cyber Command in Washington and Barksdale.

Four days later, on August 30, a Barksdale-based B-52 flew six nuclear warhead tipped AGM-129 advanced cruise missiles from Minot to Barksdale. The incident was later called a "mistake" by Air Force officials. However, three high-ranking Air Force officers leaked the incident to the Air Force Times.

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne, a key member of the rival chain-of-command, rewarded his loyalists in Barksdale by announcing the base had been selected as the preliminary headquarters for the Air Force Cyber Command. Wynne made his announcement at a Shreveport gambling casino. Wynne, according to a CNN report, advocated the testing of nonlethal weapons, like high-power microwave weapons, against American citizens. Wynne said, "If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation."

Minot Air Force Base may also get a piece of the cyber-warfare pie. Attempts by this editor to interest North Dakota Democratic Senator Byron Dorgan in the August 30 nuclear incident were unsuccessful. Dorgan is obviously angling, along with Democratic Senator Kent Conrad, to get a chunk of the cyber-war command pie for Minot.

Far from being a mistake, the procurement of the nuclear missiles from Minot was tied to a rival chain-of-command operation that would occur on September 6, when the Israeli Air Force struck a purported Syrian nuclear facility in eastern Syria, near the town of Dayr az Zawr.

On April 24, 2008, as news broke of an FBI investigation into a long-time Israeli intelligence ring that penetrated the U.S. military and intelligence communities, CIA director, Air Force General Michael Hayden, revealed further "intelligence" on the Syrian facility, said to be a joint North Korean-Syrian reactor modeled after the Yongbyon facility in North Korea. However, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and American weapons experts cast doubt on the veracity of the CIA's intelligence, including a dubious videotape said to have originated with Israeli intelligence sources. Hayden, it appears, is part of the rival Air Force chain-of-command, taking orders directly from Cheney, to prepare and incite a U.S. military conflict with Syria and Iran.

The FBI investigation of the Israeli spy ring, which included convicted US Navy spy Jonathan Pollard; accused Army spy Ben-Ami Kadish; and possibly others who served in high positions in the George W. Bush administration is also reportedly looking at key members of the rival Air Force chain-of-command.

It is noteworthy that Air Force Cyber-Warfare guru Dr. Lani Kass, who had recently been an Israeli Air Force Major, first came to the United States as a defense contractor in 1981, the halcyon period of the Israeli spy ring inside the Pentagon and Reagan administration. Reagan National Security Council Middle East expert Douglas Feith was fired from his job after he was suspected of passing classified information to an Israeli embassy contact. Feith was re-hired at the Pentagon by his old friend Richard Perle. Kass now serves as the Air Force's chief cyber-warfare guru and she also specializes in information operations deception. Along with Air Force General Lawrence Stuztriem, Kass is involved in Operation Checkmate, operational planning for a U.S. military attack on Iran.

Two days after the Israeli spy story involving Kadish broke, the Pentagon-chartered cargo ship, SS Westward Venture, fired machine guns at approaching Iranian patrol vessels.

After the Minot nuclear incident, the Air Force's Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base, Virginia ordered a stand down of all fighters and bombers in the Air Force. Although the order was issued on September 7, the day after the Israeli strike on the "Al Kibar" site in Syria, the stand down did not occur until September 14.

Gates ordered an outside review of the Minot incident conducted by retired former Air Force Chief of Staff General Larry Welch. Welch was hardly an impartial judge, having been part of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's favorite program, the Ballistic Missile Defense System or "Star Wars II." Welch led a Blue Ribbon panel that heaped praise on the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization, then led by Air Force General Ronald Kadish.

The Welch Report failed to discover the breakdown in Air Force nuclear command-and-control and the existence of the rival chain. An indication of the worthlessness of the Welch Report was the discovery that in August 2006, four Minuteman nose cone nuclear fuse assemblies were "mistakenly" shipped from Hill Air Force Base in Utah to Taiwan. The fuses had originally been shipped to Hill from F. E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyoming in March 2005. Gates reacted to the incident by ordering an unprecedented inventory of all nuclear weapons and nuclear material in the U.S. arsenal.

On April 21, 2008, Gates, speaking to young Air Force officers at the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama, criticized the Air Force for refusing his orders to get more involved in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Gates' criticisms stunned the audience and reverberated throughout the Air Force. Here was a Secretary of Defense indicating that a subordinate service was insubordinate. Gates was likely hinting at the existence of the rival nuclear chain-of-command directed from Cheney's office.

The rival nuclear chain-of-command that was responsible for the Minot nuclear incident, REX REDUX, and associated events is as follows:

Vice President Dick Cheney

-- Chief of Staff David Addington

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael Moseley

-- Gen. Lawrence Stuztriem, Chief of Staff of the Air Force Strategic Studies Group - CHECKMATE

-- Dr. Lani Kass, ex-Israeli Air Force, Cyber Warfare, US Air Force, CHECKMATE

Lt. Gen. Robert Elder, Commander 8th Air Force, Barksdale Air Force Base

Col. Bruce Emig, Commander 5th Bomb Wing, Minot Air Force Base (relieved of command after nuclear incident)

Maj. Gen. Stephen Goldfein, Commander Air Warfare Center, Nellis Air Force Base

Goldfein's role in the chain-of-command has been exposed as a result of a Department of Defense Inspector General audit that discovered that Goldfein and Moseley helped steer a $50 million public relations contract for the Air Force's elite Thunderbirds flying team to Strategic Message Solutions (SMS), a firm that had been established to bid on the Thunderbirds Air Show Production Services, or TAPS. On September 2, 2007, as the impact of the Minot nuclear incident was still being felt in Minot and around the Air Force, a scheduled Thunderbirds air show to help celebrate "Northern Neighbors Day" was proclaimed to be still on schedule for September 8. A week after the worst nuclear security command-and-control debacle in the nation's history, Minot Air Force Base opened its gates for the public to come on to the base and watch the Thunderbirds perform. There was even a traffic jam of civilian cars, including some from nearby Canada, waiting to drive on to the base.

Meanwhile, lower and mid- ranking Air Force nuclear security personnel were being stripped of their personnel reliability program clearances for access to nuclear weapons on the base. The contrast could not have been more stark. It was clear that carrying on with the scheduled Thunderbirds show at Minot was part of a public relations spin being directed from Moseley and his staff.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335304
6/6/2008 2:07 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Guys....the nuke incident happened in Sep't 07...how many of these guys died in July and Aug 07 ?.....fuck it, it's a good conspiracy...you get a pin...!
 Quoting: SHR


Good on ya SHR applause2
3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 2:11 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

The rival nuclear chain-of-command that was responsible for the Minot nuclear incident, REX REDUX, and associated events is as follows:

Vice President Dick Cheney

-- Chief of Staff David Addington

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael Moseley


-- Gen. Lawrence Stuztriem, Chief of Staff of the Air Force Strategic Studies Group - CHECKMATE

-- Dr. Lani Kass, ex-Israeli Air Force, Cyber Warfare, US Air Force, CHECKMATE

Lt. Gen. Robert Elder, Commander 8th Air Force, Barksdale Air Force Base

Col. Bruce Emig, Commander 5th Bomb Wing, Minot Air Force Base (relieved of command after nuclear incident)

Maj. Gen. Stephen Goldfein, Commander Air Warfare Center, Nellis Air Force Base
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176


THANKS for finding this again! that's important...
the meek are ready...


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 271953
6/6/2008 2:15 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

I don't get it. Maybe cause it's so late at night - did the guys die before the attempted nuke ira? Did they just fire the other guys?

I remember the story from awhile back, but I need a tutor, lol.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446451
6/6/2008 2:16 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

So who confirms these guys were the crew of that B-52? At least one of them wasn't even aircrew, he was a special forces guy.


it is my understanding that anyone around nukes has a keeper, and there are very strict procedures that are followed, and if the timing is late/wrong, and something is not done exactly as it should be, this persons job is to kill them on the spot
 Quoting: malu

Special Forces Weather AF would be part of this. Not air crew, but on the ground.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429684
6/6/2008 2:17 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

I just wonder... with all the talk there was a few months ago about a possible threat of a terrorist nuclear attack on American soil ... Mayhaps these missiles were planned to bear that label?
 Quoting: Cimbrian


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440235
6/6/2008 2:20 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

how do you know who were on the crew? was there a list somewhere.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446451
6/6/2008 2:23 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Look up Hurlburt Field, Fla
3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 2:25 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

I don't get it. Maybe cause it's so late at night - did the guys die before the attempted nuke ira? Did they just fire the other guys?

I remember the story from awhile back, but I need a tutor, lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271953


yeah, i've got like a dozen open pages right now and it seems chaotic. there is a media blackout on the deaths and several people are trying to sort it all out.

starting with Todd Blue, 20 years old...

"Blue was a response force member assigned to the 5th Security Forces Squadron.
[The primary mission of the 5th Security Forces Squadron is to 'provide 24-hour law enforcement and security services for the 5th Bomb Wing and all tenant units assigned to Minot AFB.'"

died: 9/11/07 (self-inflicted shot to the head while visiting family)

911review.org/reports/minot-DEAD.html (cached only?!)
the meek are ready...


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 271953
6/6/2008 2:30 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

thanks 3c!! I have figured out that two guys just "stepped down" and now I am wondering about the dead guys. Yes, it is chaotic.
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