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| 3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 2:36 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
info on john frueh...
A little over a week after the Minot-Barksdale nuclear weapons incident, the body of US Air Force Captain and Major-selectee John Frueh, assigned to "Operations Weather" at Hurlburt Field, adjacent to Eglin, was found near is rental car, near Badger Peak in Washington state. Frueh was in Portland to attend his best friend's wedding. Frueh's last phone call to his family in Florida was from a pay phone at Portland International Airport on August 30, the very same day the B-52 flew with the loose nuclear missiles from Minot to Barksdale.
Frueh was a U.S. Air Force Special Operations "Weather Warrior" with the 10th Combat Weather Squadron at Hurlburt Field. Weather Warriors are, according to the Air Force, "Special operations weathermen [who] are meteorologists with advanced tactical training to operate in hostile or denied territory." It should be noted that Iran is considered "denied territory" by the U.S. military.
Frueh was last seen on August 29 in Portland. He was carrying in his backpack at Global Positioning System (GPS), camera, camcorder, and cell phone. Oddly, Frueh's last call to his family was from a pay phone at the airport and not from his cell phone.
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| Final Countdown
User ID: 433388
6/6/2008 2:38 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
This is a TRUE Story, but it is OLD News; the guys were already murdered by the Bushregime last autumn. And there was allready a good article on it here:
[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
But it remains true and of the upmost importance to investigate the involvement of the murderers of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue! After 9-11 they had planned another genocide to happen to justify world dictatorship within this precidency. And it will still happen soon. My hunch is August. It will never come to a new election in november, we will probably all be put in one of the many hundreds of concentrationcamps Bush has build in these 8 years or tortured and murdered on his illegal prisoncamps & ships.
See: [link to www.apfn.org]
And all that for an alcoholic with an ego-problem that the American people allowed to steal elections and kill democracy and justice! Many thanks to the goddamn American people for their ignorance and stupidity to let this happen. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 435072
6/6/2008 2:44 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
I hope everyone is prayed up, and right with Jesus, because sooner or later, these snakes will get it done..
Depopulation Take-over, while "they" drink and celibate.
What a world, eh. |
| 3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 2:45 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
This is a TRUE Story, but it is OLD News; the guys were already murdered by the Bushregime last autumn. And there was allready a good article on it here:
[ link to www.globalresearch.ca]
But it remains true and of the upmost importance to investigate the involvement of the murderers of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue! After 9-11 they had planned another genocide to happen to justify world dictatorship within this precidency. And it will still happen soon. My hunch is August. It will never come to a new election in november, we will probably all be put in one of the many hundreds of concentrationcamps Bush has build in these 8 years or tortured and murdered on his illegal prisoncamps & ships.
See: [ link to www.apfn.org]
And all that for an alcoholic with an ego-problem that the American people allowed to steal elections and kill democracy and justice! Many thanks to the goddamn American people for their ignorance and stupidity to let this happen.
thanks...this covers some of the others too:
Airman 1st Class Todd Blue went on leave days after the nuclear weapons were “lost.” Blue died under questionable timing while on leave, visiting his family in Wytheville, Virginia at the age of 20 on September 10, 2007. He was a response force member assigned to the 5th Security Forces Squadron. What does this mean?
Airman Todd Blue occupied a key position in weapons systems security at Minot. [14] At Minot U.S.A.F. Base the 5th Security Forces Squadron to which he belonged was responsible for base entry requirements and a particular section, the Weapons System Security section, was responsible for preventing the unauthorized removal of military property. The latter is responsible for security of all priority resources, meaning the security of nuclear weapons. In other words not only did the 5th Security Forces Squadron keep eyes on what entered and left Minot, but they kept an eye on and monitored the nuclear weapons.
U.S. Air Force Captain John Frueh is another serviceman who could have been indirectly connected to the “lost” nuclear weapons. He was reported as being last seen with a GPS device, camera, and camcorder being carried with him in a backpack. Local police in Oregon and the F.B.I. seemed to be looking for him for days. His family also felt that something bad had happened to him.
On September 8, 2007 Captain Frueh was found dead in Washington State, near his abandoned rental car, after the Portland Police Department contacted the Skamania County Sheriff’s Officer. [15] The last time he spoke with his family was August 30, 2007. He had arrived from Florida to attend a wedding that he never showed up at. The Oregonian reported that “Authorities in Portland found no activity on his credit or bank cards since [Frueh] was last seen (...) [and that] the last call from his cell phone was made at 12:28 p.m. [August 30, 2007] from Mill Plain Boulevard and Interstate 205 in Vancouver [Washington State].” [16]
His background was in meteorology and the study of the atmosphere and weather. He was also reported to be a U.S. Air Force pararescue officer. [17] He was also a major-select candidate, which means he was selected for a promotion as a U.S. Air Force major, but was not officially promoted.
Captain Frueh belonged to the U.S.A.F. Special Operations Command. U.S.A.F. Special Operations Command has its headquarters in Hurlburt Field, Florida and is one of nine major Air Force commands. It is also the U.S. Air Force’s component of U.S. Special Operations Command, a unified command located at MacDill Air Force Base, which is also in Florida. The force provides special operations forces for worldwide deployment and assignment to regional unified commands, such as CENTCOM. Its missions include conduct of global special operations. These operations — and this is where careful attention should be paid — range from “precision application of firepower, such as nuclear weapons,” to infiltration, exfiltration (the removal of “devices,” supplies, spies, special agents, or units from enemy territory), re-supply and refuelling of special operational elements.
In Captain Frueh’s case his death is questionable too. The U.S. Air Force would not let a missing persons’ investigation go forward by the police without conducting its own investigation. Usually the different service branches of the U.S. military would investigate for missing servicemen, to see if these individuals are Absent Without Authorized Leave (AWAL) or have deserted, before an individual’s case is handed over to the police.
Clint Huff, Linda Huff, and Weston Kissel
Another military weatherman, along with his wife, also died after August 30, 2007. Senior Airman Clint Huff, belonging to the 26th Operational Weather Squadron and his wife Linda Huff died in a motorcycle accident on September 15, 2007. [18] The husband and wife fatality happened on Shreveport-Blanchard Highway, near U.S.A.F. Base Barksdale, when according to the Caddo Parish Sheriff’s Officer a Pontiac Aztec, a medium-sized SUV, initiated a left turn at the same time that the couple attempted to pass on a no passing zone and collided. [19]
First-Lieutenant Weston Kissel, a B-52H Stratofortress Bomber pilot, also died in a reported Tennessee motorcycle accident. This was while he was on leave in, less than two months from the nuclear B-52 flights, on July 17, 2007. [20] His death came after another single-vehicle accident by another Minot serviceman, Senior Airman Adam Barrs. [21]
Senior Airman Barrs died as a passenger in a vehicle being driven by Airman 1st Class Stephen Garrett, also from Minot. Garrett, also belongs to the 5th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron.
The death of Barrs was reported as being part of a single-vehicle car accident. Associated Press reports state that “[Minot] Base officials say 20-year-old Barrs was a passenger in a vehicle that failed to negotiate a curve, hit an approach, hit a tree and started on fire late Tuesday [July 3, 2007] night.” [22] Barrs was pronounced dead on the scene of the accident, while Garrett was taken the hospital with no updates released by the U.S. Air Force. Adam Barrs also belonged to the 5th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron, where he was responsible for the maintenance and securing of the electronic communicational and navigation mission systems aboard the B-52H Stratofortresses on base. The 5th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron is also one of the units that are responsible for loading and unloading weaponry onto the B-52H Stratofortresses.
The deaths of Kissel and Barrs could be dismissed as irrelevant because they occurred prior to the incident. However, Barrs and Kissel could have been in one way or another connected to the advanced planning of the special operation, prior to the incident (special operations are not planned in a few days and may take months and even longer). There is, of course, no proof and only an independent investigation will be able to reveal whether these deaths are connected to the incident.
If there was an internal and secretive operation bypassing most military personnel, a few men in key positions would have to have been involved over a period of time prior to the August 29/30, 2007 flight. Senior Airman Barrs, due to his expertise in communication and navigational systems, could potentially have been involved in the preparations that would have allowed the nuclear weapons to escape detection by military surveillance and be ready for takeoff.
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| 3c?
User ID: 57407
6/6/2008 2:47 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
A U.S. Air Force official, Charles D. Riechers, has been found dead on October 14, 2007. [24] Riechers was a retired Air Force officer and master navigator specializing in electronic warfare. He was a member of the Senior Executive Service of the U.S. Air Force, and was the Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Acquisition and Management. A description of his duties includes “providing sound expert advice and guidance on acquisition and procurement policies, as well as formulating, reviewing and, as assigned, execution of plans, programs and policies relating to organization, function, operation and improvement of the Air Force’s acquisition system.”
He apparently killed himself by running his car’s engine inside his suburban garage in Virginia. The death of Charles D. Riechers has been casually linked by The Washington Post to his involvement in fraudulent activities and embezzlement. [25] The Washington Post reported that the Air Force had asked defense contractor, Commonwealth Research Institute (C.R.I.), to give him a job with no known duties while he waited for official clearance for his promoted rank in the Pentagon. Riechers is quoted as saying: “I really didn’t do anything for C.R.I.,” and “I [still] got a paycheck from them.” The question, of course, was whether the contractor might expect favours in return upon his assignment to the Pentagon last January. [26] A mysterious suicide letter expressing shame was subsequently reported; the letter was reportedly from a man who had already admitted without shame that he was receiving money for doing nothing. This was known to the U.S. Senate, which had approved his promotion.
In a report featured by Pravda, Russian Intelligence analysts have said that the reported suicide of Charles D. Riechers was a cover-up and that he was murdered because of his involvement in the controversial flight of nuclear weapons over the continental United States.
Pravda reports that “Russian Intelligence Analysts are reporting today that American War Leaders have ‘suicided’ [sic] one of their Top U.S. Air Force Officials Charles D. Riechers as the rift growing between the U.S. War Leaders and their Top Military Officers over a nuclear attack on Iran appears to be nearing open warfare.” [27]
According to the Pravda report, the incident was linked to an operation to smuggle nuclear weapons away from the U.S. military in connection to launching a war against Iran.
The Commonwealth Research Institute (CRI), a registered non-profit organization is a subsidiary of Concurrent Technologies, which is registered with the IRS as a tax-exempt charity, which is run by Daniel Richard DeVos. Devos is also an associate of John P. Murtha, who was investigated by the F.B.I. for his Saudi links.
Certainly the ties of the Commonwealth Research Institute (CRI), a non-profit organization working for the Pentagon, are questionable and the organization could be a front for internal operations that bypass most military personnel. The case appears to be part of an internal operation that was being kept a secret from most of the U.S. military, but what for?
Russell E. Dougherty
More than a month before the death of Riechers, General Russell Elliot Dougherty, a retired flag officer, was also reported to have died on September 7, 2007 at his home in Falcon Landing military retirement community in Potomac Falls located in Arlington, Virginia. [28] He once was one of the most senior individuals responsible for the nuclear arsenal of the U.S. military and also the former commander of Strategic Air Command (SAC) and director of the Joint Strategic Target Planning Staff, which identified nuclear targets worldwide amongst its responsibilities. At Minot next to his obituary was a military information notice on suicide, telling servicepersons what the signs of suicide are. [29]
Russell Dougherty in the course of his military career in the U.S. Air Force had dealt with the issues pertaining to Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD), full spectrum dominance, how to defeat the enemy and avoid a nuclear war, other uses for nuclear weaponry, Nuclear Primacy for the U.S., and tackling the effects of the wind and weather — due to their unpredictable natures — on the use of nuclear weapons.
The fact that the nuclear warheads were attached to the nuclear cruise missiles could mean that someone wanted to take the weapons in one step or to use them right away.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446451
6/6/2008 2:50 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Gates is a proxy for Bush '41. Not that that adds any clarity to this story. |
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User ID: 446726
6/6/2008 2:59 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
You didn't expect the Iranians to be actually firing these weapons did you ? hmmmm ?
OK so the Chinese had to think they were getting a slice of the action against America in a covert manner.
The Syrians had to think that they were getting a slice of the action against America in a covert manner.
The Israelis had to be kept in the dark at all costs, even if it meant a few cases of terminal cancer caused by lead poisoning. Invariably its a brain cancer.
Think big.
Think OIL FIELDS.
Here is the Kicker.
The British - yes the British had to be kept in the dark as well as it was to be they who also took a round right into their tent city.
The Saudis had to be kept in the dark - they were getting the good news too - this alliance had to suceed at all costs. Including a thirty thousand casualty list for the USA.
Think BIG, think GLOBAL.
Then, suprise fucking suprise China gets fingered for the triggers if they even squeek a pip the wrong way.
Think GLOBAL here people.
A global coalition against Iran, the west and Islamic countries join forces and take Iran. The oil wells are the spoils and Halliburton reap the riches.
You don't think they built the nuclear bunker in the new embassy in Iraq as a joke do you ?
Uhh huh, no Sir they did not.
The weatherman was needed plain and simple because to launch against Iran they needed targetting data from within iran.... thats what he was told... in fact he would of been a 'witness' to these terrible missiles leaving Iran and paraded on national US televison as 'proof'..
uhh huh, they really are that fucking mean and nasty in a twisted way through and through.
Clear that up for you ? hope so. Patriots died because they knew what was right and what was a plot by a mad man in a mad palace wanting world wide destruction and death for corporate gain. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441665
6/6/2008 3:12 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
So were they the bad guys, or the good guys? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446299
the good guys were killed and ousted... the good guys are the ones that refused to send the nukes to the middle east and bomb iran because iran wont do what the white house wants them to do... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441665
6/6/2008 3:14 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
You didn't expect the Iranians to be actually firing these weapons did you ? hmmmm ?
OK so the Chinese had to think they were getting a slice of the action against America in a covert manner.
The Syrians had to think that they were getting a slice of the action against America in a covert manner.
The Israelis had to be kept in the dark at all costs, even if it meant a few cases of terminal cancer caused by lead poisoning. Invariably its a brain cancer.
Think big.
Think OIL FIELDS.
Here is the Kicker.
The British - yes the British had to be kept in the dark as well as it was to be they who also took a round right into their tent city.
The Saudis had to be kept in the dark - they were getting the good news too - this alliance had to suceed at all costs. Including a thirty thousand casualty list for the USA.
Think BIG, think GLOBAL.
Then, suprise fucking suprise China gets fingered for the triggers if they even squeek a pip the wrong way.
Think GLOBAL here people.
A global coalition against Iran, the west and Islamic countries join forces and take Iran. The oil wells are the spoils and Halliburton reap the riches.
You don't think they built the nuclear bunker in the new embassy in Iraq as a joke do you ?
Uhh huh, no Sir they did not.
The weatherman was needed plain and simple because to launch against Iran they needed targetting data from within iran.... thats what he was told... in fact he would of been a 'witness' to these terrible missiles leaving Iran and paraded on national US televison as 'proof'..
uhh huh, they really are that fucking mean and nasty in a twisted way through and through.
Clear that up for you ? hope so. Patriots died because they knew what was right and what was a plot by a mad man in a mad palace wanting world wide destruction and death for corporate gain. Quoting: .////. 446726
crazy sense
:) |
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User ID: 446726
6/6/2008 3:15 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
So were they the bad guys, or the good guys?
the good guys were killed and ousted... the good guys are the ones that refused to send the nukes to the middle east and bomb iran because iran wont do what the white house wants them to do... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 441665
The bomb was not for Iran.... The bombs were coming FROM IRAN into various targets to cause a US / UK / Islamic coalition against Iran for being naughty boys and hitting Saudi / American / Israeli targets.
Israeli SF were in iran waiting to laser designate targets. They were NOT in on this at all.
Thats the funniest bit. Israel really would of blamed Iran. |
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User ID: 446726
6/6/2008 4:08 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
You didn't expect the Iranians to be actually firing these weapons did you ? hmmmm ?
OK so the Chinese had to think they were getting a slice of the action against America in a covert manner.
The Syrians had to think that they were getting a slice of the action against America in a covert manner.
The Israelis had to be kept in the dark at all costs, even if it meant a few cases of terminal cancer caused by lead poisoning. Invariably its a brain cancer.
Think big.
Think OIL FIELDS.
Here is the Kicker.
The British - yes the British had to be kept in the dark as well as it was to be they who also took a round right into their tent city.
The Saudis had to be kept in the dark - they were getting the good news too - this alliance had to suceed at all costs. Including a thirty thousand casualty list for the USA.
Think BIG, think GLOBAL.
Then, suprise fucking suprise China gets fingered for the triggers if they even squeek a pip the wrong way.
Think GLOBAL here people.
A global coalition against Iran, the west and Islamic countries join forces and take Iran. The oil wells are the spoils and Halliburton reap the riches.
You don't think they built the nuclear bunker in the new embassy in Iraq as a joke do you ?
Uhh huh, no Sir they did not.
The weatherman was needed plain and simple because to launch against Iran they needed targetting data from within iran.... thats what he was told... in fact he would of been a 'witness' to these terrible missiles leaving Iran and paraded on national US televison as 'proof'..
uhh huh, they really are that fucking mean and nasty in a twisted way through and through.
Clear that up for you ? hope so. Patriots died because they knew what was right and what was a plot by a mad man in a mad palace wanting world wide destruction and death for corporate gain.
crazy sense
:) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 441665
Corporate gain in exchange for a few tens of thousand lives. Israel would of been pushed to the wall and collapsed under the strain, America would 'aid' it by taking in hundreds of thousands of jewish survivors, for a decade the USA would 'care taker' and then at Jewish requests merge it into the USA giving the USA a permanent secure location for all time in the middle east.
Crazy ? oh no, I read the script and cut and ran. This has been in the wings since 2005. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446726
6/6/2008 4:10 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
The global elite covet Jerusalem above any thing and all.
Think long term, think secret societies, think power bases, think seal of solomon.
Then then you really will stand back and go 'oh shit, their fucking mad'. |
| ExhaleAeonVolts
User ID: 444542
6/6/2008 4:14 AM
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cool SHR. maybe with the pin we can get help figuring this all out... Quoting: 3c?
When I saw the headline and Gates the talking head...
My stomach sunk deep. Would love the details. But, some how my intuition has giving me further red sirens...just like with the "nuke flying over usa incident" and the deaths that quickly followed.
Not cool. And the bad guy was the one doing the firing.
The press usually point the cameras at the people I respect the least. Essentially, that tells part of the truth right there.
But, Mr Gates is freshly picked and active for work now.
Isn't it weird how his name reminds me so much of the masonic show, National Treasure...
The Gates Family...He even looks like the guy who played the "father, senior Gates."
It is like some weird public mind meld Dog Wagging show...Thanks Disney.
To quote the brilliant Thomas Sowell.........
"Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Moammar Gadhafi and Vladimir Putin have all praised Barack Obama. When enemies of freedom and democracy praise your president, what are you to think? When you add to this Barack Obama's many previous years of associations and alliances with people who hate America — Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, etc. — at what point do you stop denying the obvious and start to connect the dots?" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446809
6/6/2008 4:57 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
You people are funny. Pathetic, but funny. Can't even get the headline right, but hey, fuck the truth when there is a good evil conspiracy to dream up eh? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199230
6/6/2008 5:15 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Everything seems to be out of place.
Attacking Iran with just 6 cruise missiles is bullshit.
A false flag attack, where the Iranians would be expected to pull the trigger of those 6 mysteriously acquired missiles, giving a "casus beli" is pure fiction.
A false flag attack, somehow prevented by American patriots.. while other American pilots pull the trigger - could such unscrupulous traitors even exist?
The Israelis orchestrating a false flag attack against American targets? Why using B-52 bombers then, involving so many people? Israel/Magal Securities guards the US nuclear assets anyway. There are more quiet ways of smuggling a few pieces.
Looks like ordinary mismanagement and those in charge try to escape responsibility, blaming it on people who cannot defend themselves, because they just happen to be dead. |
| 89446
User ID: 324503
6/6/2008 5:19 AM
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Hi Malu.
As its you I am going to spell it out real clear. Runway to orbit in one shot as they say.
6 cruise missiles were going to Iraq. They were then going to go over land to Syria. Syria was going to wait a few months till transporting them over land into Iran via the north corridor across iraq.
Iran was then going to use 4 against US forces in Iraq, one against Saudi oil fields and one against Israel taking out tel-Aviv.
This was to give a joint USA / Muslim world ala Desert storm coalition against iran. The Muslim world would see how big and bad Iran were and help take them out.
Now, during a fuck up 4 didn't have fuses. these were rushed via the hush bag to Taiwan, where Chinese forces were waiting to take them straight to Iran.
True patriots discovered this, and took the action that led to their deaths. True patriots tried to defend these men to the last and instead of dying (which is an attention grabber. An airmens not news, a general is) they got the chop.
This my good friend is what went down that dreadful day. A crew discovered they were carrying live weapons because as they had been badly tampered with the alerted the crews via radiation detectors that they were live weapons.
The top brass rallied as hard as they could, but lets just say loaded guns were in the room.
Patriots took a stand against WW III and a mad mans dreams, they paid the highest price for us to live in saftey from this mad cabale of bastards. Quoting: ./ / / /. 446726
Sorry man but the theory is silly.
The US doesn't have to nuke its troops in Iraq and Israel in order to get the help of great military powerhouses (yeah right) Saudi Arabia and the petty Gulf sheikdomes! Bwahahaha. That's the most assinine piece of weird strategy I've heard. |
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User ID: 446726
6/6/2008 5:23 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
You didn't expect the Iranians to be actually firing these weapons did you ? hmmmm ?
OK so the Chinese had to think they were getting a slice of the action against America in a covert manner.
The Syrians had to think that they were getting a slice of the action against America in a covert manner.
The Israelis had to be kept in the dark at all costs, even if it meant a few cases of terminal cancer caused by lead poisoning. Invariably its a brain cancer.
Think big.
Think OIL FIELDS.
Here is the Kicker.
The British - yes the British had to be kept in the dark as well as it was to be they who also took a round right into their tent city.
The Saudis had to be kept in the dark - they were getting the good news too - this alliance had to suceed at all costs. Including a thirty thousand casualty list for the USA.
Think BIG, think GLOBAL.
Then, suprise fucking suprise China gets fingered for the triggers if they even squeek a pip the wrong way.
Think GLOBAL here people.
A global coalition against Iran, the west and Islamic countries join forces and take Iran. The oil wells are the spoils and Halliburton reap the riches.
You don't think they built the nuclear bunker in the new embassy in Iraq as a joke do you ?
Uhh huh, no Sir they did not.
The weatherman was needed plain and simple because to launch against Iran they needed targetting data from within iran.... thats what he was told... in fact he would of been a 'witness' to these terrible missiles leaving Iran and paraded on national US televison as 'proof'..
uhh huh, they really are that fucking mean and nasty in a twisted way through and through.
So crazy you couldn't of dreamt it up if you tried .... Just the way they like them.
Figured out JFK yet ? didn't think so, just the way they like it. Figure the elite out yet ? didn't think so, just the way they like it.
Clear that up for you ? hope so. Patriots died because they knew what was right and what was a plot by a mad man in a mad palace wanting world wide destruction and death for corporate gain. Quoting: .////. 446726 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411229
6/6/2008 5:23 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
So were they the bad guys, or the good guys?
the good guys were killed and ousted... the good guys are the ones that refused to send the nukes to the middle east and bomb iran because iran wont do what the white house wants them to do... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 441665
Obviously they didn't nuke anything and now they are supposedly dead? I would guess that they were good guys and someone wanted them gone for the sake of protecting their treasonous plot. I will be reading into this story....very disturbing. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446726
6/6/2008 5:26 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Figured out the elite yet ? didn't think so - just the way they like it.
Figured out JFK yet ? didn't think so - just the way they like it.
Would you of even dreamt that this would be how it went down had it gone live ? didn't think so - just the way they like it.
Believe me, they are so bad they make Stalin / Hitler / Pol Pot / catholic church look like Mary Poppins. |
| Irdooomed
User ID: 446777
6/6/2008 5:29 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
OMG! It's amazing we heard this at all! Quoting: Claycat
I'll say the CIA has plenty of people to just take the nukes to Iraq or where ever they need them!
Someone's going to get cooked over this and whoever is responsible deserves it!
Holy cow! It's the woowoo patrol! |
| Anonymouse
User ID: 439261
6/6/2008 5:33 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
The workforce population at the Minot base is about 6,000. Over a course of a few months, five or six of those guys die... how strange is it? If they were all crewmen on the plane carrying the nukes, as the title of this thread says, then yes it would be incredibly suspicious, but that is not the case. These are just random guys from all kinds of different jobs and duties on the base. It is a small coincidence at best.
Why is this pinned?
Base fact sheet here: [link to www.minot.af.mil] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411229
6/6/2008 5:33 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
So were they the bad guys, or the good guys?
the good guys were killed and ousted... the good guys are the ones that refused to send the nukes to the middle east and bomb iran because iran wont do what the white house wants them to do...
Obviously they didn't nuke anything and now they are supposedly dead? I would guess that they were good guys and someone wanted them gone for the sake of protecting their treasonous plot. I will be reading into this story....very disturbing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 411229
I take back what I said. There isn't enough to prove that somehow these individuals were all linked to this incident. Someone prove me wrong. The firing of 2 top air force brass is however very unusual. |
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6/6/2008 5:47 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Since we are letting our hair down, I ran across this. Thought it was interesting.
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LOOSE NUKES
More On The Minot B-52
By William Thomas
Though I love him like a brother and would trust him with my life, engaging “Hank” in conversation is not something I do often or for fun. Regardless of the questions I think I have in mind, my evening calls invariably result in an eight or nine hour forced march into a succession of revelations so dizzying, so daunting, sleep deprivation is the least of my concerns.
But I still can't help picking up the phone.
As a veteran reporter who made his bones on the streets of Milwaukee and Chicago and the mud of Woodstock during that tribal uprising called the 'Sixties, I have, like Hank, a burning need to know what's going down behind the slickly recited PR that passes for “nooze”. And as a former navy man myself, and master under sail, I know the survival value of timely and accurate information - what swabbies call, “the gouge”.
So when disinformation is jamming public radars like chaff, and spin becomes a blur, who else would I call? A military man to his bones, in the 16 years I've collaborated with him, the remarkably well-informed source I call “Hank” has brought a careful competency and blunt outspokenness to the often successful and rarely reported mission of holding dangerous idiots accountable before they get people - usually his friends in uniform - killed.
Wouldn't you call him, too?
CAUGHT IN THE NET
My first question concerning the Pentagon's recent atomic SNAFU was so instantly obvious, every other U.S. news organization has been careful not to raise a corporate eyebrow and likewise inquire: “Does the official story fly?”
“The investigation and punishment were a direct result of the story we published,” Hank replied with a release of pent-up intel that sounded like the Halabja dam about to let go.
Damn! I thought. This boy wades right in. But could a story as outrageous as Command Override really have scored a direct hit on attentive brass - like the “poppers” and Chinese microchip stories before it, and Israel's abortive nuclear strike on Iran?
Say again, I broke in. “Can you confirm what you just said?”
“That's a confirm,” Hank said. “And that came from multiple sources. People are reading your stuff, dude. It's having an effect.”
Inquiring minds now want to know: Did 70 Minot minnows deserve to get swallowed by bigger fish that got away?
ORDERS ARE NOT ALWAYS FOR HAMBURGERS
“The powers that be, all the way from the Commander-in-Chief down to the people who ran the two bases, all the people, from air traffic controllers - these things have beacons on them - if you were told, ignore it and you did, you are in trouble.” Hank's comments came in a characteristic rush of main points and asides that knew my own military mindset was locked in synch. In this case, I knew he was referring to the fact that America's nuclear weapons are equipped with beeping transponders that should have been tracked in flight - and cross-checked with superiors. This did not happen.
So the firings were fair?
“All of the people who got fired should have been fired because they obeyed an illegal order, and they knew it,” he replied. “And they went outside the chain of command after being told: 'You're going to turn off your alarms that tell people these things are being taken out to the tarmac. You are going to sit on this information until we tell you otherwise…We are going to do all these weird things and you are just going to ignore it.'
“They were taught to obey these things,” he added, referring to strict nuclear verification procedures. “They had an opportunity to say no, and they decided to go along. Some of the folks who were smacked, let's say they were collateral. A base group of 45 should've got the boot. At least 10 of them should have gone to jail, or been shot.”
“Holy crap!” I exclaimed, borrowing one of his favorite phrases.
“Yessir!” Hank said. “These are the people who got the keys, opened the nuclear bunker, put the bomb on the truck, drove it out - and didn't see the guys with the guns and the painted faces” who were supposed to be keeping eyes-on the surrounding environment. If no guards are present when you roll out a nuke, the rules are simple and direct: Do not proceed. Do not go for coffee. GO BACK INSIDE!
'Instead,” Hank resumed, “it was “wink and nod, and nudge nudge.” He assumed an enlisted's whine: “They said, 'go ahead'. And I want to get back to my copy of I Dream Of Jeannie…”
“But during a nuclear loadout,” I interjected, “it takes just one person raising their hand to shut the whole thing down.”
“Correct!” Hank concurred. “One person raising their hand would've stopped it: 'Can I see your orders? Can I have a receipt?' would've stopped it.”
So why oh why, I wanted to know, in the midst of a full nuclear loadout never before undertaken by the United States Air Force - and with no announced threats incoming on any radar - didn't one of the 70 people most directly involved ask the most basic WTF?
Or if they did, why weren't they listened to, as strict nuclear protocols and procedures demand? Hank added.
“They must have thought they were following a legitimate order,” I ventured.
“They could not have thought they were following a legitimate order, because the orders were so whacky,” Hank shot back, segueing into the mimicry that is his expository trademark: 'We're going to put it all together and slap it on this plane, and we don't know where it's going to. And for several hours the guards who are supposed to be guarding this stuff just aren't going to be there.'
“When it comes down to the movement of nuclear weapons, there is a totally different universe of thought,” he later picked up this thread. And yanked. “The people selected to do this know that this could effect millions of people in an instant. Plus the fact that we're on a war footing; we've got terrorist alerts left and right. Any extreme goes these days - six nuclear weapons loaded on an airplane bound some fuckin' where, and we're going to go bomb the crap out of somebody.
“We are not that at war,” he added heatedly. “This wasn't for transportation. These were locked and loaded weapons. It was a war loadout. This was getting ready to shoot somebody in the face. They were loading weapons and handing them to somebody to go shoot somebody. They had the opportunity to stop and think, What are we actually doing?”
Big news, guys: “Dr. Strangelove” was not a training video.
HAVE A NICE WEEKEND
Hank could have been standing on the Minot apron last August, looking up with a group of wide-eyed Airedales at six “hot” nuclear cruise missiles being fueled in place under a strategic bomber's wings.
“It's unmistakable. Somebody is going to get bombed,” he voiced their thoughts. “These are SLAMS - stand off weapons. What possible place that we could be bombing at this very moment would require that much firepower? And we're talking the permanent devastation of part of this planet?”
These were not just some worker bees lashing crates of oranges to the deck of a schooner. These were highly trained individuals handling nuclear freaking weapons! “It's not just part of their job to affix it to a plane until the plane flies off, but to secure them until they are needed,” Hank pointed out.
And yet, I reiterated, on a base mostly shut down for the Family Day weekend, “There's no alert. DEFCON status hasn't changed… ”
“Correct,” my source again affirmed. “Nothing's happening to indicate a need to bomb somebody. What were they thinking? I would like to know. These things are supposed to prevent war.”
If Hank was a happy camper, you definitely would not want to get caught wandering around his AO wearing a bear suit.
“People need to get booted in the ass so hard their nuts fly out of their mouths,” he suggested: “'This is your job, asshole. This is what you get paid for.' “
The combat veteran paused in disbelief - both at the professional misconduct of so many highly trained individuals, and the scale of retribution that he was told followed our Internet “outing” of a FUBAR even more serious than an admitted Broken Spear nuclear “accident”.
ROLL CALL
“We didn't need a few heads to roll,” he continued. “This is a drum roll of heads rolling. Anything over 10, you're shittin' me. When I heard it was 70, I had to sit the hell down. This was one singular event cutting the largest singular swath through the military. Remember Pearl Harbor? How many people got court-marshaled?”
I knew the answer from writing Days of Deception. And before unjustly tarnishing his reputation, Washington had deliberately kept Admiral Kimmell away from their closely held intel tracking Nagumo's approaching fleet.
“This was 70 people of different rank across the board,” Hank continued. ”But this went beyond the base commander. It should have gone all the way to the NCA.”
This means you, Dubya.
“At what level of incompetence did we stop at?” Hank kept going. “Are you saying that a Lieutenant Colonel is capable of initiating a nuclear strike? Actually a colonel is. Did we fire a colonel? No. A five-star general? We have one of those. No. How far up the chain of command did it go, and why did it stop there?”
Whoa, I said, speaking through my journalist's hat. Everyone involved says the National Command Authority did not know this incident was taking place. Bush and Gates were both notified as soon as six live nukes were found dangling from the wing of a B-52 parked alone and unguarded on the Barksdale tarmac. Of course, that little discovery supposedly did not come until the next day…
A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE YOUR TROPICAL RETIREMENT
Hank fielded my demur and lobbed it smoking toward the White House: “There is zero way they should not have been involved,” he declared. “In order to take one nuke and fly it over the United States, the NCA would have A: had to be involved. B. had to be involved. And C: had to be involved. You get my point.”
I did.
“There are no other [authorizing] fingers. That's it. There are only two. That would be the President, and the Secretary of Defense.”
He switched to sounding like a prosecutor at a military tribunal: 'You 'didn't know.' How was it possible that you didn't know?”
Addressing the judges, he pointed to the NCA: “They're supposed to be competent in their jobs. There are so many safeguards in place, it could not have occurred without them being involved. They either had to acknowledge a statement that someone else made - or sign a piece of paper put in front of them. Once you do something like this, it doesn't go away. It follows you around. It's on your record that you deployed nuclear weapons.”
He paused before firing for effect:
“Or admit that they were out of the loop. That's the rock and the hard place. There is no gray area here. Either you are in control of our nuclear weapons arsenal. Or not. And if you are not, would you please point to the person in the room who is. Whether the order came from within the system or outside the system - this event occurred. Explain it. If it happened without your cooperation or acknowledgement or involvement, can you please point to the individual who did your job and is not being accountable for the 'mistake'? You want to pin a nuclear weapon on an E-2. Really?”
(I promise you have never heard sarcastic skepticism until you've heard Hank utter that six-letter word.)
“They're firing everybody,” he recapped. “'Even if you came into the room while we're firing people - we're firing you, too.' How do you fire 70 people for a single event, and not be able to pin it on the highest person involved?”
Someone had to play Devil's Advocate General.
“They did get the Minot Base commander,” I suggested.
“Oh, please, “ Hank came back. “No! The commander only sits on them. He doesn't deploy them. If somebody shows up with a legitimate order, he supplies them - three of these, five of those. Where did that plane originate? Where did the order to load that plane originate? A base commander cannot have a plane, and the weapons, and the release codes under his purview. That does not happen. Otherwise, if he was a loose cannon, he could load up and launch his own mission.
“Instead we've got the person at the top saying 'I don't recall'…
“Holding people accountable…I think that's mandatory. Even Tailhook went all the way up the chain,” Hank pointed out, referring to the abrupt end of the Navy zoomies' female harassment parties that saw an admiral keel-hauled. “These are the guys who are actually in charge of the things that take cities off the map. This is very high profile. It's hilarious on one side. And it's damn scary on the other."
OFFICIAL GLOSSARY OF MILITARY TERMS:
AO - Area of Operations
ASSHOLE - dangerously incompetent arrogant fool
CIC Commander-in-Chief - elected or selected President of the United States
CO Commanding Officer - the person you salute who tells you what to do
CONUS - Continental United States
FUBAR - Fucked Up Beyond All Repair
GITMO - illegal U.S. concentration and torture camp,Guantánamo Bay, Cuba
INTEL - Military intelligence - not always an oxymoron
PLA - Chinese People's Liberation Army
NCA - National Command Authority: President and Secretary of Defense
SAC - Strategic Air Command
SNAFU - Situation Normal, All Fouled Up
WTF - What The Fuck
PHOTO CREDITS
B-52H Stratofortress - main mission: nuke cities www.sfahistory.org
Bush smirk insults Americans with apparent impunity www.mvp-seattle.com
Military Police practice for White House takedown? www.belvoir.army.mil
Why doesn't the U.S. military arrest a felonious CIC? www.belvoir.army.mil
Disgraced Dubya walks away from America, yet stays in White House wire photo
Time to take away the button from an Apocalyptic nut? www.emergency.com
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BOOT UP
“On the confirmation side that would be a yes. It definitely was them,” Hank said, citing corroborating sources who have come forward since our story appeared. “That is a biggie.”
No crap, so to speak, that's a biggie. Hank was reconfirming that after “back-dooring” the Made In China microchips infesting the entire U.S. civilian and military infrastructure, Beijing now has the capability to load an American nuclear bomber and fly it around CONUS like a remote-controlled model plane!
It's public knowledge that the Chinese have hacked the Pentagon's computers, Hank emphasized, referring to worldwide media coverage of last year's digital raids by the PLA. “And while they were in the Pentagon they got access to - fill in the blanks. In a cyber attack, you either change something, or gain access to something.”
And now?
“Our computer systems are totally FUBAR'd,” he responded. “We're so stupid, we can't pour pee out of a boot when the instructions are on the bottom. There is no way this could have occurred, logically, neurologically - any kind of logically. The Chinese initiate this. They put it through the system, and it's actually taken off and flying.”
I stopped laughing.
FOUR MORE
“Somebody saw it for what it was and caught it in time,” Hank went on. “The only thing that kept this thing from going any further was that someone saw this happening again and said, 'not this time.'”
Not this time?
“This has happened before,” Hank revealed. “There is no guarantee that this was the first. This is the one that got caught - 'turn around, land here, do not pass go.' And there are four missiles missing from the national inventory.”
Four nuclear weapons are missing from the U.S. arsenal? I shouted into the phone.
“Yessir.”
Where are they, for pity's sake?
“Where they are I do not know,” Hank answered. “The same safeguards were shut down. The same methodologies were used. Everybody knows about it, nobody admits to it. Everybody's doin' the behind-the-hand thing: 'Yeah, we know. But we don't talk about it.'”
I really do have to stop calling this guy.
CAN YOU SAY, NUKULAR PROFILERATION?
Hank added that the four prodigal nukes went on walkabout - or flyabout - since Bush Jr. came on watch.
Did the Chinese swipe them? I was afraid to ask, but couldn't help myself.
Hank didn't know. He was trying to find out. But his behind-their-hands sources were hanging up their phones.
“Somebody saw it for what it was, and caught it in time,” he reiterated, referring to the Minot caper. “I'm thinking the origination was the same. If they did the other one with the four - if they got away with that - what did they do with the missiles? And why come back to rob the same bank?”
“Because the door was still open,” I guessed.
“Right,” Hank said, morphing metaphors. “You're shutting the barn door not only after the cow has fled, but has been butchered and sold for hamburger at the local Wendy's.”
When I stopped laughing - with a kind of strangled moan - he went on.
“The fact that they are just now taking punitive action against basically two platoons of military personnel - 70 people out the door - that's a significant amount of individuals. On top of that, you're going to need replacement people. Are the same people who hired those 70, going to be hiring the next 70 to replace them?”
Remember, he reminded me, among the people chosen to handle nuclear weapons, there are “no mavericks, no daredevils, no reckless anything. They like geeks. Very calm. Very serious. Very rational.”
And everyone who comes anywhere near a nuke is constantly re-evaluated. Are they still sane? Are they eating too much? Drinking too much? Having too much sex? Too much of anything is an instant disqualifier, Hank said.
“How many of those 70 had appraisals by those over them?” he wanted to know. “Who appraisers the appraisers?”
If the investigation was kept from going above a certain level - “That means that the problem still exists.
ACCIDENTAL MURDERS?
“One more thing,” I said, staring at a clock that could not be right. “We've got six or seven dead at Minot and Barksdale. What do you know about that?”
“Half of them have been verified as hands-on,” Hank replied.
Ouch.
“All I'm getting are local TV news accounts of car crashes and 'unfortunate accidents,'” I reported. “Two were a married couple at Barksdale. Which is odd. And apparently, a pilot and a navigator from Minot are also dead.”
“Two were security - the people who would have been key to making sure that access was granted, that things went smoothly,” Hank supplied.
One of the deceased was Airman First Class Todd Blue, 20, who died while on leave in Virginia. Blue was assigned to the 5th Security Forces Squadron, which guards B-52H Stratofortresses at Minot. The base statement did not say how he died. According to an online source, the six air force personnel listed below were from Minot and “were directly involved as loaders or as pilots”.
“Is it possible that those were seven hands going up?” Hank wondered.
I suddenly felt even chillier than the temperature outside.
“One death could be attributable to shit happens,” my military insider reckoned. “One is a coincidence. Two is enemy action. They had seven.
“And if this wasn't something fishy,” Hank went on, “the people entrusted with our nuclear weapons are so incompetent they all killed themselves? What were the number of deaths they had per year at this place? This many deaths in that short of time would have been a significant number of the 75 to 110 in charge of the nukes at Minot.
“Seven dead. In order to cover this up, our guys are getting killed by our guys,” he speculated. And if the order to arm and launch the B-52 did not come officially from our National Command Authority - “If it came from outside, there would be no reason to blow these people away. Unless they had seen that the orders had come from outside.”
If in fact, all or some of the seven were sacrificed in faked “accidents” - is that reason enough to kill them? The military community already knows that the PLA can penetrate the Pentagon's, SAC's and SecDef's most sensitive computers.
Even Hank was puzzled. “The fact that China initiated this, and we killed our own people - I'm really coming up blank on why this had to happen. What is there that we don't know yet? What could have taken it to that level?”
And if they were not murdered, why was the official reaction to seven service deaths within 10 days of a high-profile nuclear incident at two air bases so glaringly wrong?
SEE NO EVIL
“Seven,” Hank repeated. “For those individuals to have gone that quickly, with no official investigation… “ His voice trailed off. This was not the military he'd known.
“A base commander gets one soldier on drunk driving, he or she has to look into it,” he resumed. “If there was an injury, there is a board of inquiry called, and the base commander has to attend to that. If a fatality occurs, the base commander can be put on suspension pending an investigation. Remember that one marine at Camp Pendleton who got dehydrated and died?”
I did. It was a full-pack training exercise in brutal temperatures, and apparently some harsh hazing, gone terribly wrong.
“The base commander was brought before a tribunal and questioned,” Hank said. “If you have something like that recurring - that's the key. If it's the second, and then a fifth, and then sixth - once it gets past a certain point, it becomes a homicide investigation. At the least, such recklessness must be brought under control.”
Yet…
“They looked into it in the most cursorily possible matter,” he said. “When you're talking someplace where nukes are concerned, people can be compromised in a heartbeat. Security is the key… We are trained to look for patterns. This definitely fits a pattern: The same people involved in the same basic job, same base, same time-frame - all ending up dead, one after the other, at a nuclear facility. Oh, really? Seven of our highly trained individuals end up dying, and we don't even look into it?”
After all, he added, military professionals are “supposedly more on the ball than the average civilian. We're trained in survival. And yet they can't seem to cross the street? I don't know of any organization - the UAW for shit's sake - who would see seven people croak and not launch an investigation. And the U.S. military is losing people left and right and basically scratching their ass and saying, 'Mmm, smells like shit. Hokay.'
Corpses smell worse. Do seven sudden deaths deserve some answers?
Hank thought so.
“So when it comes down to it, the base commander should have looked into this. If seven is not enough for an investigation to have been launched, what number would? How many would we have to lose for someone to say, 'Oh shit, we have to look at this.'”
Double-time.
Before there's more.
TAKING BETS
We were not alone in suspecting foul play. As many as 30 people from both bases have contacted Hank, afraid their lives are also forfeit. “You want to take a bet on who's next?” they asked him.
“Some of these folks had contact with these individuals on the post,” he explained. “Others with their family members.”
Why are some 30 serving members of the United States military afraid of being murdered - by the U.S. military? According to Hank, the people who approached him said: “'Everything I eat, I look at. Everything I drink, I check. I drink bottled drinks. And I don't get them from the same place twice.'”
Having dealt with a contract on my own life for video some folks did not appreciate seeing aired on national TV, I can add that having to constantly check your car for lethal modifications also gets to be a drag. (Happily, my incoming assassin was picked up for speeding with an AK-47 and baggie of pot on his front seat. We later shook hands and shared a laugh in a courthouse washroom.)
Morale at Minot? Are you kidding? Far from any action or promise of promotion, this about-to-be closed North Dakota air base is considered in the air force as a redundant Cold War posting not far south from polar exile. “Why not Minot?” is an air force expression guaranteed to shape up the most recalcitrant enlistee serving at another base.
Today, Hank commented, “It's not really a happy-go-lucky kind of place. Not knowing if you're next, or if the person next to you is going to cause you to be next. Not being able to trust the new people coming onto the base… “
He was referring to the post-mass firing fear of being flipped inverted in the wingtip vortices of fresh incompetence, and auguring in like 70 fellow blue-suiters - including the base C.O. - who followed orders and did their jobs. Or what they thought were their jobs.
“These 30 individuals are not looking forward to the holidays,” Hank added. “They are wondering, 'Am I going to be reassigned?'”
“Accidents happen on holidays,” I suggested.
“More than ever,” Hank agreed.
But this time we'll be watching. So be warned. Some very powerful friendlies are paying attention, too.
IF YOU'RE SEEING WHAT WE'RE SEEING, JUST HIT “SEND”
“Command Override” was “a really turning point for a lot of people,” Hank concluded.
He meant military personnel.
“These are calm, sober-minded individuals and they're seeing it the same way we do. They're asking questions. And they're on the inside. They should have the answers. They were there. This to me is the most sobering thought of the whole thing: When the people who were physically there don't know what was going on.”
For every military hit on willthomasonline.net, he further advised, our information is being forwarded to dozens of co-workers. “Some very hard-nosed people are looking back on what they know is not adding up, and seeing where we're going - and concurring - and passing it on.”
And their basic military message, Hank translated into direct gruntese: “Everybody wake the fuck up and look around because some shit's going down and you need to know.”
CLUELESS IN CYBERSPACE
I advised Hank to go get some breakfast. But first, one more thing I had to know: What did he think of that Cyber Command Center officially set up at Barksdale to “counter Chinese military hackers” just weeks after the PLA's dramatic fly-by?
“They had the T-1, -2 and -3 trunking lines already installed. And it was in the dead center of nuke city,” he verbally shrugged. “They have wanted to set something like that up for quite some time.”
So are we good? Can the guardians of America's skies now stop hackers sophisticated enough to download America's nuclear launch codes?
“These cyber crime guys are the same ones who do what the FBI does,” Hank replied. “Before this, they looked for people breaking into a banking account. Or downloading Napster one time too many times. They've touched on the Russian mafia. But when it comes to something like hacking the Pentagon - no. These boys are outclassed.”
Will it happen again?
“There's nobody left to do it again,” Hank said.
Then he reconsidered.
“It doesn't change a thing. What hasn't changed is whether or not we deploy them.”
He meant nuclear weapons. He meant that thanks to a few helpful hackers and nearly six-dozen numbnuts banished to a dead-end posting with a reputation for flying one wing low on its readiness inspections, just having these things around has become so God-awful dangerous, every nuclear weapon in the U.S. inventory - and anywhere else for that matter - should be gathered up immediately and fired into the sun.
Ol' sol could use the juice.
Because back here on Earth, God's own appointed Armageddon-expeditors, AWOL Bush and Shotgun Cheney, have just months remaining to try out their new “nukular” penetrators on families just like yours in Iran.
Unless they're tossed into Gitmo as “enemy combatants” for a long list of felonies first.
FULL SERVICE PROVIDERS
“ The biggest worry that they have nowadays is they will give a legitimate order, and be told, 'fuck you,” Hank concluded on a more hopeful note. “These are people doing insane things and trying to get people to think they are sane. This is waking people up to how insane things have gotten - that the people running the insane asylum should be inmates, too.”
If you are a serving member in the United States military - and more than one million people are - what's the lesson here?
“Blindly following,” Hank said. “A bad idea that will get you killed. You're a thinking human being first and foremost. And part of the oath that you swore [to defend against all enemies] was domestic, and foreign. We could be nuking another country and starting the final world war because some nutbar up there wants to see Yahweh. And holy crap! - it's the one running all of us! Whether the order came from the nuthouse, or was faked to look like it was coming from the nuthouse - it came from the nuthouse.”
Good night. And good luck. |
| Anonymous Coward
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6/6/2008 6:51 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
apparently it's true and they all died shortly after the incident - which, to me, is all the more damning... Quoting: 3c? |
| Anonymous Coward
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6/6/2008 7:20 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
The situation is publicly unclear. |
| Anonymous Coward
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6/6/2008 7:59 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
I strongly advise the latest victims of the 4th Nazi Reich,Wynne and Moseley,to not waste time writing a book.They need to speak out NOW! Bush's Murder,Inc.assassins are working overtime on the long list they've been handed personaly by Bush himself.
Note to Herr Robert Gates,high ranking officer in the Neo-nazi party operating on US soil:
Recently you criticized Myanmar for refusing US aid citing "criminal neglect".What about Bush's CRIMINAL NEGLECT of New Orleans,Herr Gates? Bodies floated in the streets for weeks while Herr Bush went on a drunken odessy.I'll remind you,Herr Gates,that Herr Bush ALSO REFUSED AID from other countries during that time.Herr Bush's actions went far beyond "criminal neglect".Herr Bush's actions were "CRIMINAL INTENT"!
And speaking of "CRIMINAL INTENT",Herr Gates,we all know that those nukes could not have been moved without a SIGNED ORDER DIRECTLY FROM HERR BUSH.It was a lie that the nukes were moved by "mistake".Your problem was that you got caught in the act and tried to coverup your treason and "CRIMINAL INTENT" by murdering all the airmen and witnesses involved.You got caught at that,too.
We also know,Herr Gates,that you intend to insinuate Blackwater and other hired killers into the military command.
Herr Gates,you and your demented wannabe dictator have made some extremely powerful enemies,hence your assassins.You will be stopped dead,Herr Gates,as the military is waking up to it's Prime Directive which is to protect the US from ALL ENEMIES - FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.YOU,Herr Gates,Herr Bush,and the rest of your neo-nazi party qualify as ENEMIES of the United States.You won't be able to murder all the people on the list and your hours are numbered. |
| Anonymous Coward
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6/6/2008 8:32 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
if it's true that certain groups in the airforce were pushing back on an attack on iran then I salute those who did push back. It is their duty to protect citizens from all threats - external and internal. |
| babydust2004
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6/6/2008 8:41 AM
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I read about this in a tribute on projectcamelot last year.
[link to projectcamelot.net]
here is the link it was posted in October 2007 |
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6/6/2008 8:47 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
When I was in the Air Force, the Strategic Air Command (SAC) was still functional. There was an old saying I heard once "to err is human, to forgive is not SAC policy." I'm thinking that while SAC no longer exists, that policy still holds true. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 445611
6/6/2008 8:50 AM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
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