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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446872
6/6/2008 9:07 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

AC 348853:
"Herr Gates,you and your demented wannabe dictator have made some extremely powerful enemies,hence your assassins.You will be stopped dead,Herr Gates,as the military is waking up to it's Prime Directive which is to protect the US from ALL ENEMIES - FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.YOU,Herr Gates,Herr Bush,and the rest of your neo-nazi party qualify as ENEMIES of the United States.You won't be able to murder all the people on the list and your hours are numbered."

This is one of the best threads that have graced the forum for a long time. The above quote portends a military backlash against those who would destroy this country and her people, not only for gain, but to protect their asses from going to the gallows when tried and found guilty with the massive amounts of evidence being collected.

Our men and women working in intelligence ops are slowly piecing together the information that will, in cooperation with world intelligence agencies, fry those traitors who sit in seats of power who have betrayed just about everybody on this planet. It's only a matter of time before they are all arrested...perhaps already this year before the elections in November. We can only hope.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446896
6/6/2008 9:59 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

I read about this in a tribute on projectcamelot last year.

[link to projectcamelot.net]

here is the link it was posted in October 2007
 Quoting: babydust2004


i remember reading that also......
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446899
6/6/2008 10:03 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

09-11-08
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 444009
6/6/2008 10:17 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

[link to www.legitgov.org]
[link to tailrank.com]
[link to www.digg.com]


and today the AF leadership was sent packin'....


EDIT NOTE: the details and timeline are chaotic, there are a number of mysterious deaths involving air crew, ground crew, security, brass and whistleblowers invloved with the minot incident - we are trying to piece it all together...
 Quoting: 3c?


I didn't see anything in any of those articles that said all six were from that one B-52. Only that the six who died were from the same AFB.
Que
User ID: 9335
6/6/2008 10:23 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

If the high rollers in this are really going for a coup then get ready for some type of fake crises Bush and Co will need to have one started to start their take over buy "deactivating" the Constitution. Get your cash out of your accounts NOW.
"Striking Terror-Best Part of the Job."
thequickening2@hotmail.com
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 444442
6/6/2008 10:29 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

What I understand, being a low level civy, intelligence people must be piecing together. Many will jump over the line to the "good guys" side in order to save their asses. The time for a reckoning is near. I pray it happens very quickly.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446938
6/6/2008 10:49 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

I LOVE arm chair quarter backs they only get it wrong most of the time!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 350055
6/6/2008 10:51 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Bush has been summoned to Nazi Headquarters in Germany.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446948
6/6/2008 11:11 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

YOU GOTDAMN WOOWOOS THIS IS A COINCIDENCE
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446948
6/6/2008 11:13 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Bush has been summoned to Nazi Headquarters in Germany.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 350055



GERMANY?

CLOSER TO LONDON I'D WAGER.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414891
6/6/2008 11:25 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

and they tell us to support our troops
anonomous
User ID: 446894
6/6/2008 11:43 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

bsflag
Anonymous
User ID: 427882
6/6/2008 11:56 AM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Hi Malu.

As its you I am going to spell it out real clear. Runway to orbit in one shot as they say.

6 cruise missiles were going to Iraq. They were then going to go over land to Syria. Syria was going to wait a few months till transporting them over land into Iran via the north corridor across iraq.

Iran was then going to use 4 against US forces in Iraq, one against Saudi oil fields and one against Israel taking out tel-Aviv.

This was to give a joint USA / Muslim world ala Desert storm coalition against iran. The Muslim world would see how big and bad Iran were and help take them out.

Now, during a fuck up 4 didn't have fuses. these were rushed via the hush bag to Taiwan, where Chinese forces were waiting to take them straight to Iran.

True patriots discovered this, and took the action that led to their deaths. True patriots tried to defend these men to the last and instead of dying (which is an attention grabber. An airmens not news, a general is) they got the chop.

This my good friend is what went down that dreadful day. A crew discovered they were carrying live weapons because as they had been badly tampered with the alerted the crews via radiation detectors that they were live weapons.

The top brass rallied as hard as they could, but lets just say loaded guns were in the room.

Patriots took a stand against WW III and a mad mans dreams, they paid the highest price for us to live in saftey from this mad cabale of bastards.
 Quoting: ./ / / /. 446726


You are blowing my mind. Is this what is really going on?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 444818
6/6/2008 12:06 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

They are all heros for preventing a possible WWIII or nuclear holocaust.
Obviusly they wanted that B52 in the middle east so that they could provoke Iran to attack Israel or something similar and then have an excuse to use these nukes missiles covertly if possible.

Its all a big game for the elite, life is just a big game to them.
Navin
User ID: 409866
6/6/2008 12:19 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates asked for an "outside investigation" of the "bent spear" operation, as these hijinx are labeled, appointing "former" Air Force chief of staff Larry D. Welch, who just happens to be on the board of directors of one of the biggest globalist organizations, the Henry L. Stimson Center. How convenient!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348957
6/6/2008 12:21 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

I strongly advise the latest victims of the 4th Nazi Reich,Wynne and Moseley,to not waste time writing a book.They need to speak out NOW! Bush's Murder,Inc.assassins are working overtime on the long list they've been handed personaly by Bush himself.


Note to Herr Robert Gates,high ranking officer in the Neo-nazi party operating on US soil:

Recently you criticized Myanmar for refusing US aid citing "criminal neglect".What about Bush's CRIMINAL NEGLECT of New Orleans,Herr Gates? Bodies floated in the streets for weeks while Herr Bush went on a drunken odessy.I'll remind you,Herr Gates,that Herr Bush ALSO REFUSED AID from other countries during that time.Herr Bush's actions went far beyond "criminal neglect".Herr Bush's actions were "CRIMINAL INTENT"!

And speaking of "CRIMINAL INTENT",Herr Gates,we all know that those nukes could not have been moved without a SIGNED ORDER DIRECTLY FROM HERR BUSH.It was a lie that the nukes were moved by "mistake".Your problem was that you got caught in the act and tried to coverup your treason and "CRIMINAL INTENT" by murdering all the airmen and witnesses involved.You got caught at that,too.

We also know,Herr Gates,that you intend to insinuate Blackwater and other hired killers into the military command.

Herr Gates,you and your demented wannabe dictator have made some extremely powerful enemies,hence your assassins.You will be stopped dead,Herr Gates,as the military is waking up to it's Prime Directive which is to protect the US from ALL ENEMIES - FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.YOU,Herr Gates,Herr Bush,and the rest of your neo-nazi party qualify as ENEMIES of the United States.You won't be able to murder all the people on the list and your hours are numbered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348853



Deserved a repost. Look for TPTB to tar the reputations of Wynne and Moseley,they're good at pointing fingers.
Hannibal
User ID: 442469
6/6/2008 12:22 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Now we see why Obama and Hilary were groveling
in front of AIPAC this week.

They know they don’t have a chance of winning unless they
are willing to submit their souls and our lives to the Juden overlords.

Now go complain to your jew senators...lol.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 410120
6/6/2008 12:26 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

...meanwhile, there are those six deaths. On July 20, 1st Lt. Weston
Kissel, a 28-year-old B-52 pilot from Minot, died in a motorcycle
accident while on home leave in Tennessee.

Another Minot B-52 pilot, 20-year-old Adam Barrs, died on July 5
in Minot when a car he was riding in, driven by another Minot airman,
Stephen Garrett, went off the road, hit a tree, and caught fire.
Airman Garrett was brought to the hospital in critical condition
and has since been charged with negligent homicide.

Two more Air Force personnel, Senior Airman Clint Huff, 29, of
Barksdale AFB, and his wife Linda died on Sept. 15 in nearby
Shreveport, Louisiana, when Huff reportedly attempted to pass a van
in a no-passing zone on his motorcycle, and the van made a left-hand
turn, striking them.


Then there are two reported suicides, which both occurred within
days of the flight. One involved Todd Blue, a 20-year-old airman
who was in a unit that guarded weapons at Minot. He reportedly shot
himself in the head on Sept. 11 while on a visit to his family
in
Wytheville, Virginia. Local police investigators termed his death
a suicide.

The second suicide, on Aug. 30, was John Frueh, a special forces
weather commando at the Air Force's Special Operations command
headquartered at Hurlburt AFB in Florida. Hurlburt's website says,
"Every night, as millions of Americans sleep peacefully under the
blanket of freedom," Air Force Special Operations commandos work
"in deep dark places, far away from home, risking their lives to
keep that blanket safe."

Frueh, 33, a married father of two who had just received approval
for promotion from captain to major
, reportedly flew from Florida
to Portland, Oregon, for a friend's wedding. He never showed up.
Instead, he called on Aug. 29, the day the missiles were loaded,
from an interstate pull-off
just outside Portland to say he was
going for a hike in a park nearby. (It is not clear why he was at
a highway rest stop as he had no car.)
A day later, back in Portland,
he rented a car at the airport, again calling his family. After he
failed to appear at the wedding, his family filed a missing person's
report with the Portland police. The Sheriff's Department in remote
Skamania County, Washington, found Frueh's rental car ten days later
on the side of a road nearly 120 miles from the airport in a remote
area of Badger Peak. Search dogs found his body in the woods. His
death was ruled a suicide, though neither the sheriff's investigator
nor the medical examiner would give details. What makes this alleged
suicide odd, however, is that the sheriff reports that Frueh had
with him a knapsack containing a GPS locator and a videocam -- odd
equipment for someone intent on ending his life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57407

These guys were not the aircrew of the jet in question. The two pilots listed died over a month before the incident.
One of the suicides, "associated" only because the death occured on the same day, was stationed in Florida, neither the starting nor ending location of the flight, and was a weather forecaster, an unrelated careerfield. He was on a trip to Portland at the time and his body was found in Washington. Both locations still having nothing to do with the starting or ending locations of the flight.
The other suicide was of a security forces airman that was stationed at Minot.
The last two were a husband and wife who while riding on a motorcycle attempted to pass a van in a no-passing zone (not a smart thing to do in any vehicle and especially dangerous in a motorcycle which is less visible than a car), and the van made a left-hand turn, striking them.

I see one, the suicide of the security forces airman, that I would really call associated. I guess if you really want to stretch your definition of "associated" then they others might fit then. But if you have to reach that much then one could find "suspicious" "associated" deaths for any incident.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 434204
6/6/2008 12:27 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

...However, elements of the Air Force, supported by U.S. intelligence agency personnel, successfully revealed the ultimate destination of the nuclear weapons and the mission was aborted due to internal opposition within the Air Force and U.S. Intelligence Community...
 Quoting: malu


That's the true American military I know and love. Thank god there are some patriots left. Unfortunately, they paid with their lives in a war that will have no memorials.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433681
6/6/2008 12:27 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

If anyone wants a war with Iran, it might be best to first listen to the 2-hour plus interview with former investment banker George Green at www.project camelot.org
What he claims has left me very, very hopeless......

Anyone notice all the super rich are moving far away from USA? Heads of large corperations, etc., etc., We are in bad trouble if this gentleman is even remotely correct. He said he is heading for South America himself. We poor lower end of income game are the ones that may be will not see another Thanksgiving. Bless all of you and pray for our nation to saved from madmen.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 410120
6/6/2008 12:34 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

The workforce population at the Minot base is about 6,000. Over a course of a few months, five or six of those guys die... how strange is it? If they were all crewmen on the plane carrying the nukes, as the title of this thread says, then yes it would be incredibly suspicious, but that is not the case. These are just random guys from all kinds of different jobs and duties on the base. It is a small coincidence at best.

Why is this pinned?

Base fact sheet here: [link to www.minot.af.mil]
 Quoting: Anonymouse 439261

What's worse is that 3 of the 6 were not even stationed at Minot. Never let the facts get the way of a good conspiracy though eh?
The Analog Guy Subscriber
My shit is together
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6/6/2008 12:41 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

From "Jane's"

A "breakdown of leadership and discipline" at two US Air Force (USAF) bases led to an incident in which nuclear-armed missiles were accidentally loaded onto a B-52 Stratofortress long-range bomber last year, according to an ongoing series of reviews.

In a 12 February testimony prepared for the Senate Armed Services Committee, three senior USAF generals summarised the findings to date and identified several factors that contributed to the incident. According to their testimony, the main cause of the August 2007 incident was a "unit-level leadership and discipline breakdown at Barksdale Air Force Base (AFB) and Minot AFB" that fostered disregard for established procedures. USAF investigations blame "an informal scheduling process" that led to the installation of the nuclear-armed pylon.

The USAF testimony also pointed to the declining attention being paid to the nuclear mission and diminishing experience for nuclear-trained officers.

In their testimony, the three senior USAF generals - Lieutenant General Daniel Darnell, Major General Polly Peyer and Major General Douglas Raaberg - noted a "declining focus" within the service on the strategic nuclear bomber mission.

"Since the end of the Cold War, aircraft units have taken on conventional commitments in the midst of an ever-increasing operational tempo and a continuously shrinking force," the testimony states. "Thus, the role of the strategic nuclear mission, especially in dual-tasked aircraft units, competed for time, attention and focus. The turning point of this diminished focus began when aircraft came off nuclear alert status."

The incident - referred to in US parlance as a 'Bent Spear' - involved the mishandling of six nuclear-tipped AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles. In late August 2007 a pylon carrying the six missiles was accidentally installed on a B-52 at Minot AFB, North Dakota. The aircraft then flew to Barksdale AFB, Louisiana, where munitions handlers discovered the error and notified their command.

[link to www.janes.com]
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JoeNeubarth
User ID: 369114
6/6/2008 12:42 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

NOTHING BUT LIES UPON LIES.

The fact of the matter was that the nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. The maintenance is routine, just like a car checkup. Louisiana is where it is done. The issue is that the sending base in South Dakota did not separate the warheads and ship them to Louisiana in a shipping crate inside of the B52. Instead they were shipped on the missile itself. That can be done if the sending facility does not have the tools to separate the weapon from the missiles. When they are shipped that way, they have to be put inside a larger container and shipped inside of the B52. That was not done for two of the weapons as they did not have enought of the larger shipping crates, so a genius officer decided to send them to Louisiana under the wings of the B52. That, by the way was an approved method years ago.

Basically, this was a paperwork snafu. The weapons were not armed and could not have been armed without approval from Washington. They could not have been fired without approval from Washington. That approval is a code entered into the onboard launch computer. That code was not released from Washington as we were not in a war situation.

The issue was that the shipping officer sent the nukes to La. the old fashioned way, under the wing, and that is no longer approved. Thus his action proved that he was not reading the newest instruction book as regards shipping of weapons for maintenance. THAT, of course, can ruin your career and I expect the shipping officer is looking for a job in the civilian sector as I type this......
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355072
6/6/2008 12:51 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

yea but north korea syria and iran pose no real threat...


neither did iraq, afghanistan or bin laden...
 Quoting: 3c? 57407

BIN LADEN posed or poses no threat?? LOL
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355072
6/6/2008 12:55 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Now we see why Obama and Hilary were groveling
in front of AIPAC this week.

They know they don’t have a chance of winning unless they
are willing to submit their souls and our lives to the Juden overlords.

Now go complain to your jew senators...lol.
 Quoting: Hannibal

AND YOU GO COMPLAIN TO YOUR PORK CHOP, DOG BUTT SMELLING IMANS!!!!
antwan
User ID: 445683
6/6/2008 12:56 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

The Secretary of the Air Force and two 4 star generals just gor fired over this today!

-------->NBC National News



that has got to be very rare, most the time they just send them out to pasture with the promise of a bullet to the head should they stray any further from the herd


i am thinking the making of a military coupe are underway, you don't get to be a four star without big time connections
 Quoting: malu



they dropping like dead insects ! soon many other will follow the same course !
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 434204
6/6/2008 1:05 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Malu, this sounds more than just sinister if it's true.

I didn't read all of your post on the subject because I've got to go to bed, it's 12:45 a.m.

I'll check back tomorrow, and thanks!



thanks for checking it out polly, appreciate your input when you get the chance



when we talk about the "powers that be" , i have always felt, that there are several factions vying for power, and i think, we are seeing evidence of a serious power struggle
i have read that there have been several attempts for a military coup d'etat, and it looks like we are in the middle of a big one
 Quoting: malu



Thinking "what if" scenarios, do you think that if Bush starts enacting plans (in the open) for attack(s) on Iran that the military, or parts there-of will mutiny? One can only hope.
futrono
User ID: 447009
6/6/2008 1:11 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

NOTHING BUT LIES UPON LIES.

The fact of the matter was that the nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. The maintenance is routine, just like a car checkup. Louisiana is where it is done. The issue is that the sending base in South Dakota did not separate the warheads and ship them to Louisiana in a shipping crate inside of the B52. Instead they were shipped on the missile itself. That can be done if the sending facility does not have the tools to separate the weapon from the missiles. When they are shipped that way, they have to be put inside a larger container and shipped inside of the B52. That was not done for two of the weapons as they did not have enought of the larger shipping crates, so a genius officer decided to send them to Louisiana under the wings of the B52. That, by the way was an approved method years ago.

Basically, this was a paperwork snafu. The weapons were not armed and could not have been armed without approval from Washington. They could not have been fired without approval from Washington. That approval is a code entered into the onboard launch computer. That code was not released from Washington as we were not in a war situation.

The issue was that the shipping officer sent the nukes to La. the old fashioned way, under the wing, and that is no longer approved. Thus his action proved that he was not reading the newest instruction book as regards shipping of weapons for maintenance. THAT, of course, can ruin your career and I expect the shipping officer is looking for a job in the civilian sector as I type this......
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth


"A paperwork snafu"
" done the old fashioned way"
"to Louisiana under the wings of the B52. That, by the way was an approved method years ago."
"The maintenance is routine, just like a car checkup"( as in no big deal)


Quite heavy consequences for such a minor non event, dont you think :) ??

bsflag
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6/6/2008 1:17 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

nuke terminology....empty quiver etc

When you hear the cry "dull sword", you should start worrying. When you hear "bent spear" , get your geiger counter out. Hear the signal "broken arrow" or "empty quiver" and it is time to panic. "Nucflash" and it's probably all over.
The codewords are contained in a short but eerie booklet leaked to the Guardian. In language reminiscent of the cold war, it instructs personnel at RAF Lakenheath - the US air force's largest nuclear base in Europe - what to do in the event of an accident.

The Nuclear Surety Guide comes complete with a multiple choice quiz. But it is deadly serious and far from an academic exercise. At least two accidents involving nuclear weapons have occurred at Lakenheath. Both were covered up at the time.
The most serious was in 1956, when an American bomber skidded out of control into a store containing three nuclear weapons. Firefighters were ordered to ignore the four crewmen of the bomber and douse the flames engulfing the weapons.

An American newspaper which quoted a retired US general as saying it was possible that "a part of eastern England would have become a desert".

Carefully prepared procedures are not always followed in such emergencies. According to one account, panicking military personnel stampeded from the base. One American airman dashed from the gates of the base to hail a taxi, telling the driver: "Go anywhere - just get away from here."

Five years later, a US warplane carrying a nuclear bomb caught fire. The bomb was "scorched and blistered", according to an official report.

Cyril Brown, local councillor for the area, said: "There is a mind-set of cover-up around the base. We have no way of knowing what has gone on."

The US air force guide, printed in March 1999, says personnel must be specially screened in a "reliability programme". Personnel are assured they will receive "nuclear surety training before they are given access to nuclear weapons, weapons systems, or critical components".

However, it makes clear that even without mishaps, nuclear stockpiles pose a danger. "Nuclear weapons," it says, "emanate a certain amount of intrinsic ionizing radiation."

The aim is to keep "exposure to a minimum, consistent with operational requirements".

Lakenheath, in Suffolk, is the base for the US air force's 48th fighter wing. Its website boasts the exploits of US F15 bombers - "the world's most awesome air combat power force" - over Serbia and Iraq.

Both the US Pentagon and the ministry of defence adhere strictly to a policy of neither confirming nor denying the location of nuclear weapons.

The guide confirms their presence at Lakenheath. According to the independent US National Resources Defence Council, 33 tactical nuclear weapons are stored there.

Perhaps it is some comfort that in 1995, the base was awarded a special plaque for "outstanding achievements" to nuclear security.

Cracking the nuclear code

Broken Arrow A nuclear weapons accident that does not risk war but involves a nuclear detonation or burning of a weapon and a hazard to the public

Empty Quiver The loss, seizure, or destruction of a nuclear weapon or the 'inadvertent release' of such a weapon

Bent Spear An incident involving radioactive contamination

Dull Sword A nuclear safety deficiency that involves minor damage to the weapons

Nucflash A nuclear weapons systems accident leading to possible detonation and the risk of war

[link to www.liveleak.com]
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Hannibal
User ID: 442469
6/6/2008 1:29 PM
Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREADQuote

Now we see why Obama and Hilary were groveling
in front of AIPAC this week.

They know they don’t have a chance of winning unless they
are willing to submit their souls and our lives to the Juden overlords.

Now go complain to your jew senators...lol.

AND YOU GO COMPLAIN TO YOUR PORK CHOP, DOG BUTT SMELLING IMANS!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 355072


Is that you Senator Feingold?
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