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| 3c? nli
User ID: 78748
6/6/2008 2:14 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
For the shills:
Everyone that has turned up dead was in some way attached to the flight in question. The ones who dies before the actual flight were involved in the preflight planning.
Sgt. Link, Adam Barrs (airman) and Westen Kissel (bomber) were involved in the flight planning.
Todd Blue was the security detail head.
John Frueh was the detailed Captain.
Clint Huff was the strategist that was going public - he was killed along with his wife by another servicemember from Minot, they were stationed nearby Barksdale.
Details on the others is coming. |
| goodwater
User ID: 447051
6/6/2008 2:31 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Frodo failed.
Bush has the ring. |
| JoeNeubarth
User ID: 369114
6/6/2008 3:02 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
NOTHING BUT LIES UPON LIES.
The fact of the matter was that the nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. The maintenance is routine, just like a car checkup. Louisiana is where it is done. The issue is that the sending base in South Dakota did not separate the warheads and ship them to Louisiana in a shipping crate inside of the B52. Instead they were shipped on the missile itself. That can be done if the sending facility does not have the tools to separate the weapon from the missiles. When they are shipped that way, they have to be put inside a larger container and shipped inside of the B52. That was not done for two of the weapons as they did not have enought of the larger shipping crates, so a genius officer decided to send them to Louisiana under the wings of the B52. That, by the way was an approved method years ago.
Basically, this was a paperwork snafu. The weapons were not armed and could not have been armed without approval from Washington. They could not have been fired without approval from Washington. That approval is a code entered into the onboard launch computer. That code was not released from Washington as we were not in a war situation.
The issue was that the shipping officer sent the nukes to La. the old fashioned way, under the wing, and that is no longer approved. Thus his action proved that he was not reading the newest instruction book as regards shipping of weapons for maintenance. THAT, of course, can ruin your career and I expect the shipping officer is looking for a job in the civilian sector as I type this......
"A paperwork snafu"
" done the old fashioned way"
"to Louisiana under the wings of the B52. That, by the way was an approved method years ago."
"The maintenance is routine, just like a car checkup"( as in no big deal)
Quite heavy consequences for such a minor non event, dont you think :) ??
REmember, I am a former nuclear weapons officer. The mistake was in "not following the book." The nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. That was a reality. They simply were not shipped back in accordance with the new instuctions. It is legal to ship the nukes back on a B52. There was nothing wrong with that. It is done all the time. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447070
6/6/2008 3:18 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
I suppose they'll get away with THIS as well?
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| Pollyannuh
User ID: 46877
6/6/2008 4:04 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Well, Malu, if this is more than just a theory, the stage is being set.
Aramageddon.
Malu, this sounds more than just sinister if it's true.
I didn't read all of your post on the subject because I've got to go to bed, it's 12:45 a.m.
I'll check back tomorrow, and thanks!
thanks for checking it out polly, appreciate your input when you get the chance
when we talk about the "powers that be" , i have always felt, that there are several factions vying for power, and i think, we are seeing evidence of a serious power struggle
i have read that there have been several attempts for a military coup d'etat, and it looks like we are in the middle of a big one Quoting: malu |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 421894
6/6/2008 4:22 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
...meanwhile, there are those six deaths. On July 20, 1st Lt. Weston
Kissel, a 28-year-old B-52 pilot from Minot, died in a motorcycle
accident while on home leave in Tennessee.
Another Minot B-52 pilot, 20-year-old Adam Barrs, died on July 5
in Minot when a car he was riding in, driven by another Minot airman,
Stephen Garrett, went off the road, hit a tree, and caught fire.
Airman Garrett was brought to the hospital in critical condition
and has since been charged with negligent homicide.
Two more Air Force personnel, Senior Airman Clint Huff, 29, of
Barksdale AFB, and his wife Linda died on Sept. 15 in nearby
Shreveport, Louisiana, when Huff reportedly attempted to pass a van
in a no-passing zone on his motorcycle, and the van made a left-hand
turn, striking them.
Then there are two reported suicides, which both occurred within
days of the flight. One involved Todd Blue, a 20-year-old airman
who was in a unit that guarded weapons at Minot. He reportedly shot
himself in the head on Sept. 11 while on a visit to his family in
Wytheville, Virginia. Local police investigators termed his death
a suicide.
The second suicide, on Aug. 30, was John Frueh, a special forces
weather commando at the Air Force's Special Operations command
headquartered at Hurlburt AFB in Florida. Hurlburt's website says,
"Every night, as millions of Americans sleep peacefully under the
blanket of freedom," Air Force Special Operations commandos work
"in deep dark places, far away from home, risking their lives to
keep that blanket safe."
Frueh, 33, a married father of two who had just received approval
for promotion from captain to major, reportedly flew from Florida
to Portland, Oregon, for a friend's wedding. He never showed up.
Instead, he called on Aug. 29, the day the missiles were loaded,
from an interstate pull-off just outside Portland to say he was
going for a hike in a park nearby. (It is not clear why he was at
a highway rest stop as he had no car.) A day later, back in Portland,
he rented a car at the airport, again calling his family. After he
failed to appear at the wedding, his family filed a missing person's
report with the Portland police. The Sheriff's Department in remote
Skamania County, Washington, found Frueh's rental car ten days later
on the side of a road nearly 120 miles from the airport in a remote
area of Badger Peak. Search dogs found his body in the woods. His
death was ruled a suicide, though neither the sheriff's investigator
nor the medical examiner would give details. What makes this alleged
suicide odd, however, is that the sheriff reports that Frueh had
with him a knapsack containing a GPS locator and a videocam -- odd
equipment for someone intent on ending his life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57407
Oh, yeah. Like this series of events could possibly be a coincidence. Like if I don't put gas in my car and it doesn't run. Simply a coincidence. |
| futrono
User ID: 447009
6/6/2008 4:26 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
REmember, I am a former nuclear weapons officer. The mistake was in "not following the book." The nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. That was a reality. They simply were not shipped back in accordance with the new instuctions. It is legal to ship the nukes back on a B52. There was nothing wrong with that. It is done all the time. Quoting: JoeNeubarth
I do not doubt your expertise. My questions ;
-According to your own words this is not a major event, how come the highest levels of the leadership were sacked ?
-Wouldnt you agree that in light of the reaction by sec. Gates we could at least be suspicious that there is more to this story than reported ?
 |
| futrono
User ID: 447009
6/6/2008 4:26 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
REmember, I am a former nuclear weapons officer. The mistake was in "not following the book." The nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. That was a reality. They simply were not shipped back in accordance with the new instuctions. It is legal to ship the nukes back on a B52. There was nothing wrong with that. It is done all the time. Quoting: JoeNeubarth
I do not doubt your expertise. My questions ;
-According to your own words this is not a major event, how come the highest levels of the leadership were sacked ?
-Wouldnt you agree that in light of the reaction by sec. Gates we could at least be suspicious that there is more to this story than what has been reported ?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447106
6/6/2008 4:45 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 359752
6/6/2008 4:53 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
REmember, I am a former nuclear weapons officer. The mistake was in "not following the book." The nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. That was a reality. They simply were not shipped back in accordance with the new instuctions. It is legal to ship the nukes back on a B52. There was nothing wrong with that. It is done all the time.
I do not doubt your expertise. My questions ;
-According to your own words this is not a major event, how come the highest levels of the leadership were sacked ?
-Wouldnt you agree that in light of the reaction by sec. Gates we could at least be suspicious that there is more to this story than what has been reported ?
Answer the fucking question Neubirth don't back fucking down, answer to this shit now!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25
6/6/2008 5:09 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
NOTHING BUT LIES UPON LIES.
The fact of the matter was that the nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. The maintenance is routine, just like a car checkup. Louisiana is where it is done. The issue is that the sending base in South Dakota did not separate the warheads and ship them to Louisiana in a shipping crate inside of the B52. Instead they were shipped on the missile itself. That can be done if the sending facility does not have the tools to separate the weapon from the missiles. When they are shipped that way, they have to be put inside a larger container and shipped inside of the B52. That was not done for two of the weapons as they did not have enought of the larger shipping crates, so a genius officer decided to send them to Louisiana under the wings of the B52. That, by the way was an approved method years ago.
Basically, this was a paperwork snafu. The weapons were not armed and could not have been armed without approval from Washington. They could not have been fired without approval from Washington. That approval is a code entered into the onboard launch computer. That code was not released from Washington as we were not in a war situation.
The issue was that the shipping officer sent the nukes to La. the old fashioned way, under the wing, and that is no longer approved. Thus his action proved that he was not reading the newest instruction book as regards shipping of weapons for maintenance. THAT, of course, can ruin your career and I expect the shipping officer is looking for a job in the civilian sector as I type this......
"A paperwork snafu"
" done the old fashioned way"
"to Louisiana under the wings of the B52. That, by the way was an approved method years ago."
"The maintenance is routine, just like a car checkup"( as in no big deal)
Quite heavy consequences for such a minor non event, dont you think :) ??
REmember, I am a former nuclear weapons officer. The mistake was in "not following the book." The nukes were scheduled for maintenance in Louisiana. That was a reality. They simply were not shipped back in accordance with the new instuctions. It is legal to ship the nukes back on a B52. There was nothing wrong with that. It is done all the time.
And if these missiles somehow "disappeared" from the underwing stores of the B-52, would there be nothing wrong with that? And a nuclear missile does not have to be armed to explode with the proper technology to "jump" the trigger. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368743
6/6/2008 5:20 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
First of all, there is no way those nukes were accidentally forgotten about and left on the plane and they were flown away with.
How can they "accidentally" ship nuke fuses instead of helicopter batteries? Are they sitting on the shelf right beside each other? |
| Amaruca
User ID: 420547
6/6/2008 5:21 PM
 | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
wow, ..
you see.. truth if often stranger than fiction. Is there a Clancy or Crichton book remotely like this story? probably?
destined for nothing? destined for hell? to another abyss, to no avail.
I dugg it (from Digg)
[link to digg.com]
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430047
6/6/2008 6:28 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF....
AND SO IT BEGINS |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398069
6/6/2008 6:54 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
they refused to be complicit in the plan.
they were severely punished. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447162
6/6/2008 7:01 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Newbarth works for Mooooosad.Syria coverup. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341677
6/6/2008 7:04 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
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| Lastone
User ID: 447153
6/6/2008 7:26 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Now we all know how they will find nukes in IRAN. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447191
6/6/2008 7:40 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Basic facts Bill Gates- stopped the treason of the W-H-
Iran will not be Bombed by Israel,using US Nukes.
Neo-Cons will try again in--wHO KNOWS???? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447214
6/6/2008 8:38 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
all of you are wrong.
the military is split in two
the bad boys tried to steal the nukes
to use on america, like 911
the good guys thwarted them thankfully
the sacrifice of uppers
is either a ruse or
those new boys will support the patriots
against the bush regeime
i think the former
since it was media
see, they needed to blow a nuke or three in america
this year
under a lie
like 911
to get martial law
now the next plan is to:
elect and murder obama
then enact martial law
towards world order
i believe obama will repeat jfk
and go against his masters
lets hope everyone is awake enough to see
this going on. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 114059
6/6/2008 8:53 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Ummm, this only proves that some people from Minot AFB have died. Where is the proof that these were the guys on the nuke-loaded-plane? And could someone plz post the links for all 6 of these guys? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368743
6/6/2008 8:55 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
"a shipping crate inside of the B52"
Is it hung from the rack mounts in the bomb bay?
That's one of those rare items few people have ever seen. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447245
6/6/2008 9:54 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
all of you are wrong.
the military is split in two
the bad boys tried to steal the nukes
to use on america, like 911
the good guys thwarted them thankfully
the sacrifice of uppers
is either a ruse or
those new boys will support the patriots
against the bush regeime
i think the former
since it was media
see, they needed to blow a nuke or three in america
this year
under a lie
like 911
to get martial law
now the next plan is to:
elect and murder obama
then enact martial law
towards world order
i believe obama will repeat jfk
and go against his masters
lets hope everyone is awake enough to see
this going on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 447214
WAKE UP
Although ya try to discredit
Ya still never edit
The needle, I'll thread it
Radically poetic
Standin with the fury that they had
in '66
And like E-Double, I'm mad
Still knee-deep in the system's shit
Hoover, he was a body remover
I'll give ya a dose
But it'll never come close
To the rage built up inside of me
Fist in the air in the land of
hypocrisy
Movements come and movements go
Leaders speak, movements cease
When their heads are flown
'Cause all these punks
Got bullets in their heads
Departments of police, the judges,
the feds
Networks at work, keepin' people
calm
You know they went after King
When he spoke out on Vietnam
He turned the power to the have-nots
And then came the shot
Wit' poetry, my mind I flex
Flip like Wilson, vocals never
lackin' dat finesse
Whadda I have to do to wake ya up
To shake ya up, to break the
structure up
'Cause this blood still flows in the
gutter
I'm like takin' photos
Mad boy kicks open the shutter
Set the groove
Then I stick and move like I was
Cassius
Rep the stutter step
Then bomb a left upon the fascists
Yea, the several federal men
Who pulled schemes on the dream
And put it to an end
Ya betta beware
Of retribution with mind war
20/20 visions and murals with
metaphors
The networks at work, keepin'people
calm
Ya know they murdered X
And tried to blame it on Islam
He turned the power to the have-nots
And then came the shot
What was the price on his head |
| Anonymer Held
User ID: 447264
6/6/2008 10:40 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
OP -
Certainly provocative stuff here. Reminds me of the microbiologists that all died within a short span of time. Then there was the Washington madame that committed suicide and the state trooper that committed suicide before he could be interviewed by Cuomo and, of course, the steroids dealer that committed suicide even though he was shot in the head AND the stomach???!!!!!!!!!!! It seems the only thing America got right is this elite, tactical, killing squad that they have assembled. It is a marvel and carries out plans with deadly accuracy.
Wonder, wonder, wonder what the bloody cover-up is for? |
| anonomous
User ID: 446894
6/6/2008 10:47 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446736
6/6/2008 10:48 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Ummm, this only proves that some people from Minot AFB have died. Where is the proof that these were the guys on the nuke-loaded-plane? And could someone plz post the links for all 6 of these guys? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114059
They're not. Some of them died a month or two before the flight even happened. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341677
6/6/2008 10:54 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
For the shills:
Everyone that has turned up dead was in some way attached to the flight in question. Quoting: 3c? nli 78748
Under THAT 'rule', anyone who has EVER served in the Air Force is part of that flight, including me!
. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447264
6/6/2008 10:55 PM | | Re: Minot AFB oddities, suicides, accidents and murder MASTER THREAD | Quote |
Ummm, this only proves that some people from Minot AFB have died. Where is the proof that these were the guys on the nuke-loaded-plane? And could someone plz post the links for all 6 of these guys?
They're not. Some of them died a month or two before the flight even happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446736
Well, if they died a month or two before the flight, then perhaps we need to look at the possibility that they needed to be replaced for the plan to work. You know, put in guys who would do as they were told - no questions asked.
You must admit that it's rather astonishing for 6 members of this crew to have died suddenly. I mean, if it was one accident that took out 6 members - okay, but these are separate events. |
| I am the Jury
User ID: 386757
6/6/2008 10:56 PM
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What about Isreali attempts to bolster their image in the US? Movies about Mossad agents as hair dressers. DONT YOU FREAKIN MESS WITH THE ZOHAN!!!!!!!!!!ALL OF YOU ARE MESSING WITH THE ZOHAN AND IF THIS CONTINUES HE WILL SUBJECT YOU TO MORE ROB SCHNIEDER MOVIES. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN STOP THE EVIL ROB SCHNIEDER FROM MAKING MORE MOVIES IS TO LEAVE THE ZOHAN ALONE SO STOP MESSING WITH HIM!!!!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!!
My avator puts out! |
| I am the Jury
User ID: 386757
6/6/2008 10:57 PM
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What about Isreali attempts to bolster their image in the US? Movies about Mossad agents as hair dressers. DONT YOU FREAKIN MESS WITH THE ZOHAN!!!!!!!!!!ALL OF YOU ARE MESSING WITH THE ZOHAN AND IF THIS CONTINUES HE WILL SUBJECT YOU TO MORE ROB SCHNIEDER MOVIES. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN STOP THE EVIL ROB SCHNIEDER FROM MAKING MORE MOVIES IS TO LEAVE THE ZOHAN ALONE SO STOP MESSING WITH HIM!!!!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!! 
My avator puts out! |
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