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Planet X : on the Potterīs WHEEL

 
Nancy Lieder
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12/18/2004 11:36 AM
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Planet X : on the Potterīs WHEEL
ZetaTalk: Potter’s Wheel
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The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard.
Isaiah 24:20

Forsooth, the land turns round as does a potter’s wheel.
Papyrus: 2:8

Where previously in accord with the Polar Wobble [zeta180] in November ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] and early December ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] with the N Pole forming a Figure 8 during the day, creating a Sunrise too far NORTH in Europe then moving to a sunset too far SOUTH over the Americas, by mid December ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] this seems to have changed. Erratic movements, contrary to what is expected are reported, with things switching about from day to day. Is this the drunken lurch the Bible predicts will occur?

‘Humans are familiar with spinning tops, the child’s toy, a ball set to twirling around on a needle point. Given a strong rotational impetus, they hold upright, and do not tip over until drag causes the toy to slow down, but while slowing to a stop and falling to one side, the top develops a distinct wobble. The reasons for this can hardly be in dispute. The top is not evenly balanced, even when appearing to be upright and poised on a needle point. It is the ROTATION that maintains this appearance, as any lopsided weight or drag on the ball portion of the top is distributed evenly and quickly on all sides. When the top starts to slow down, this distribution is delayed, and leaning to the side starts. The heavy part of the ball is slung to the side but as the rotation of the top brings this to the OPPOSITE side of the ball, there is a lurch of the top to that direction. The top is seen, while still spinning, lurching from one side to the other, until this lean is accentuated enough, and the rotation of the top slow enough, that the top simply falls over on its side.

The analogy, of the death of a spinning top, equates to the description of what an Egyptian scribe recorded during the last pole shift, during the time of the Jewish Exodus. Clay on a potter’s wheel is lopsided from the start, and as the potter starts to molds it, it is seen reeling around from one side of the wheel to the other. What was that scribe seeing, for this description to apply? He was not seeing the Sun too far to South on a regular basis, morning and night. That would have inspired a statement akin to ‘Forsooth, the Sun hides in the South’. He was not seeing the Sun crossing at an odd angle on a regular basis, from morning to night. That would have inspired a statement akin to ‘Forsooth, the Sun retires early as it has risen early’. For the Earth to be predicted, in the Bible, to reel like a drunkard, this is a NOTICEABLE effect, during a short period of time, the passage of hours.

Would the Earth develop such an extraordinary wobble that it would sling its N. Pole from one side to the other, in the course of a day? Consider the Earth as a top, rotating as a top does. Consider the part of the globe having heaviness or drag to be the N Pole, as this is the part of the globe PUSHED to the side. In our analogy to the top, this part travels with the rotation such that it is SLUNG in the opposite direction, especially as the FORCE of the push is increased. Where the top develops this lurching from side to side as it slows due to the drag of gravity on the heavy portion of the ball of the top, the Earth is not reacting to gravity during its lurch. It is reacting to the dominant magnetic orientation of the Sun. The sling of the N Pole is thus an OVER COMPENSATION, momentum involved, producing an OPPOSITE effect of what is expected by those closely watching the Polar Wobble [zeta180], the Figure 8 formed by the N Pole as it starts to evade the hose of magnetic particles coming from the N Pole of Planet X, slowly tuning in place
( [link to www.zetatalk.com] as it passes through the Ecliptic. The polar wobble, and at times an over compensation, to and fro like a drunk.’

Utah:
Dec 5: Sunrise barely East of direct South. Wife and I looked out East facing window which always lets in some Sun year round. Wife says, "Whereīs the Sun?" No direct sunlight coming in the window. Went outside to see the Sunrise barely East of direct South. All shadows almost directly North.
Dec 6: The Sunrise was normal in the East again. People thought I was nuts when I spoke of it..

Chile:
Dec 10: This past December 10th I measured the deviation of sunset from West and I measured 34° to South, which, corrected with the declination of geographic North from magnetic North for my area is a 31š South of West. I measured a sunset 6 degrees more southern than it should be in 6 days from now!
Dec 16: And now I am really baffled. To my total astonishment, I measured just 20° south of West, which is a bit less 17° when corrected with geographical north declination. Compared to the 31° of just 6 days ago, it is not only northern than it should, but also a very fast change!

Mississippi:
Dec 6: Sunrise high by 19° North, early.
Dec 17: Sunrise here was 17minutes late, and the sun came up SE instead of ESE as it should.
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then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
OMFG (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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The End Is Nigh!
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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OP = FAKE DEBUNKER NANCY. EVIL LIAR HAG!

SMOKEING COFFEE DRINKING NANCY IS THE REAL ONE!

GO AWAY FILTY LYING FAKE NANCY!
OAW (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Nancy, you might want to take a break until after the 27th. It seems nobody is interested in PX right now......youīve been pushed aside.
First they ignore you,
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then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Sirensong (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Planet X?






lmao
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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I had one dream once about planet X, Nancy. It was a bright flaming object in a night sky coming toward us. In the dream I was afraid at first, but then I knew it was what was meant to be. Beyond it is a reality you could not possibly envision. Peace and beauty for ALL.

Let it go, Babe; and STOP trying to scare people.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Planet X = Tenth Planet by Roman Numeral X for 10. Its realy not known by that name throughout ancient history.
Think Nibiru.
Most people today have never even heard of it but when it shows up they will never forget it.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Thanks Nancy and Zīs : )
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Thatīs a good analogy using a top. I recall that clearly from my childhood.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Thank you, Nancy!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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The government is saying they will take GPS down for strategic purposes (for our enemies, since we use GPS more for defense than our enemies would for attack).
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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GLP is failing, periodically, during the lurching around, per the Zetas.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Zeta RIGHT Again!
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trebob (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Questions Nancy Lieder wonīt answer:
[link to zetatruth.home.dyndns.org]
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then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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come on trebob that was a bit of a pathetic debunk if ever I saw one. surely you can do better than that!
Brian Texas (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Coffee pot Nancy is the only Nancy that speaks the TRUTH! No matter how I try I canīt debunk her. Too much truth in what she says. Must be the coffee and cig.
First they ignore you,
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A Fan (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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woohoo


cheer


applause
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trebob (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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An A/C wrote:
"come on trebob that was a bit of a pathetic debunk if ever I saw one. surely you can do better than that!"

Another A/C wrote:
"yeah, lame Trebob- do you ask Nancy to answer ALL of your questions about the universe? She must be a god to you, eh Dweebob?"

96 relevant questions regarding her statements, and 6 for one of her followers, and the fact that all those questions have so far gone un-answered. Iīd call that a descent if not thorough debunking. Granted I did not come up with every one of those. Nearly all of them have been posted on GLP by someone else at one one point or another. I just put them all in one place.

As far as my questions about the universe, I go to more reputable sources for those.
Oh, and ad hominem noted.
First they ignore you,
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then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Transcript of the April 5th, 1997 interview with late Father Malachi Martin by Art Bell.
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Bell: Eh, the Vatican has a very, very great deal of power.

Father Martin: Thats right

Bell: Eh, we talked about it, ..

Father Martin (weaker): We did

Bell: they have, whether they admit it or not, a great deal of political power all around the world.

Father Martin: Uh-uh

Bell: Eh, one of the things that they did fairly recently, was, they muscled and I, I do intend to use that word,

Father Martin: Sure..

Bell: eeh.. they muscled their way onto a mountain in Arizona, Mount Graham, ..

Father Martin (softly): Uh-uh

Bell: and they built an observatory on Mount Graham

Father Martin (softly): Uh-uh

Bell: .. in connection with an Arizona University.

Father Martin: Yes

Bell: However, The Vatican has the larger part of the control of this observatory..

Father Martin: Yes

Bell: looking at deep space things.

Father Martin: That’s right.

Bell: Now why would they have done that, Father?

Father Martin: Because the mentality, the attitude, mentality amongst those
who at the higher levels, highest levels of Vatican administration and geo-politics, know that, erh now, knowledge of what’s going on in space, and what’s approaching us, could be of great import in the next five years, ten years.

Bell: Carefully and well chosen words, Father, thank you. Eerh, West of the Rockies, you’re on the air with Father Malachi Martin.
Nancy Lieder™ (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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The OP is the FAKE Nancy.

Donīt believe any of that nonsense.

If you want the truth, go with the REAL Nancy. She has a coffee pot or a funny hat.

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The ZetaTalk message, being unpopular with the establishment who does not want the populace alerted to an inbound threat, has been forged, illegally, on the Usenets in 2002. Forging postings is an illegal act.

The owners of the SkepticalMind web site are presenting themselves on the web as ZetaTalk. Forging postings is an illegal act, and since ZetaTalk is protected under a Trademark, this is frankly illegal from this standpoint. Their ZetaTalk.NET and ZetaTalk.ORG sites are mirrors of the SkepticalMind.COM/zetatalk.html web site, and announced during a chat the intention of providing email addressed to debunkers.

Beyond these intentional forgeries, there is the action of a computer virus to Spoof.

In 2004 Nancy was posting on the GodlikeProduction Message Board, whereupon several other Nancy Liederīs sprang up to claim legitimacy, even conducting Private Messaging under the name of Nancy Lieder of ZetaTalk. Below, examples of the frauds. Nancy with the Queen Amadala of the Naboo (at right) is the FAKE atavar of Nancy Lieder, a registered name.
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gogeta (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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lol
BTW Merry Christmas NL.
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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"fake Nancy- hope you burn your balls with that coffee"


Well, I guess that makes you more STO than the Starwars (FAKE) nancy. She wants her skeptics and their innocent families to DIE!


Fake Nancy (the one in wisonsin) - Enjoy the holidays, and stop wishing painful death on so many people.
johnisevil (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Didnīt Nancy make a prediction for "2 weeks before Christmas"? Well, itīs a week away. Wrong again Nancy.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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If Planet X get much closer itīs never going to get here.
HOAX Hunter (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Nancy LIEder is a HOAXER!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Nancy you are the old HOAXER now!!They have replaced you with german guy!!!!!!!!!

His threads implode with posts while yours donīt!!!!!!!!!

You need a new schtick!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Bump to the front
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Even Coffee Pot Nancy gets more replies than Star Wars Nancy.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Bunkers wonīt touch this one. Too much Unzeta Truth!
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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> changed. Erratic movements, contrary to what is expected are
> reported, with things switching about from day to day. Is this the
> drunken lurch the Bible predicts will occur?

Not hardly, old gal.

That passage from Isaiah was incomplete. Here is the whole
passage:
The earth reels like a drunkard,
it sways like a hut in the wind;
so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion
that it falls-never to rise again.

NEVER to rise again means the total end, old gal.
I see where Franci gets his habit of selective quoting.


> `Humans are familiar with spinning tops, the childīs toy, a ball set
> to twirling around on a needle point. Given a strong rotational
> impetus, they hold upright, and do not tip over until drag causes
> the toy to slow down, but while slowing to a stop and falling to one
> side, the top develops a distinct wobble.

It Wiggles and It Wobbles but it Doesnīt Fall Down!


>The reasons for this can hardly be in dispute.

Funny how only a couple of unidentified people notice these
claims of the sun being wrong. If it is observed as being
wrong in one place it should be observed the same all over.
Sorry, that dog just doesnīt hunt at all.


end and always will be
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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The dog wonīt hunt because Nancy killed it!!!
Earth420 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Thanks Nancy and the Zs!


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Aint no rain on my parade!

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ZetaTalk: Potty Chair
written Dec 18, 2004

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Isaiah 24:20 Forsooth, the land turns round as does a potty chair.

South over the polar wobble in November and early December the Bible predicts will occur? Where previously in accord with the polar wobble in November, with the drunken lurch the Bible predicts will occur? Where previously in accord with the polar wobble in November and early December this the N Pole forming a Figure 8 during to a sunset too far North in Europe then moving to a sunset too far South over this the Bible predicts will occur? Where previously in accord with the polar wobble in November!!!

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