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Why I do not accept the New Testament as a reliable source of the teachings of Jesus

 
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The 'Lord's Prayer'? – No, just re-hashed Jewish litany

The New Testament is awash with prayers, hymns, and confessional statements. Tellingly, the early church did not attribute to its superhero the actual words of any of its prayers or hymns (something we might have expected of a great 'Teacher') ... A sole exception appears to be 'Our Father' – but is it??

What becomes obvious is that the 'Lord's Prayer' evolved along with the legend of 'the Lord' himself.

In the first four centuries of Christianity references to the 'Lord's Prayer' actually are quite rare. Sure, it is to be found in Matthew chapter 6 and Luke chapter 11. But none of the Christian Apologists, for example, even mention it by name! Archaeology provides little evidence either: the 'Bodmer XIV' papyrus and another found in Antinoöpolis point to the 3rd or 4th centuries.

But a version of the prayer is to be found in a curious early second century document called the Didache. In this tract (aka Teaching of the Twelve Apostles) we find a familiar refrain (chapter 8.2):

'Neither pray ye as the hypocrites, but as the Lord hath commanded in his gospel so pray ye: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done as in heaven so on earth. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debt, as we also forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil: for thine is the power, and the glory, for ever.'

Proof positive? Not at all – we are talking of a document rejected by the Church in the 3rd century! The twelve apostles mentioned in the full title of the Didache are not twelve flesh and blood disciples of a Jesus but a reference to the twelve sons of Jacob representing the twelve tribes of Israel.

The Didache does not appear in any Bible because it is quasi-Jewish scripture!! According to this pre-gospel tract, "in the last days" it is "the Deceiver of the world" who is to appear as "the Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders " not any divine carpenter (chapter 16.3,4)! The legend is still evolving. In the Didache there is no virgin birth, no ministry, no crucifixion. 'Jesus' gets 4 mentions, to be sure, but each time merely as the bringer of some knowledge of 'the Lord' (that is, God).

Older Jewish devotions provide even earlier antecedents for the prayer. One version of the Kaddish has it:

" May His great name be hallowed in the world which He created, according to His will, and may He establish His Kingdom … speedily and at a near time."

The invocation 'Father' (Abinu or Abba) is common in Jewish liturgy (for example, in the 5th, and 6th benedictions of the Shemoneh 'Esreh – the '18 blessings' – which according to tradition, were composed during the Second Temple period (6th century BC - 70 AD). In Hasidæan circles the invocation 'Our Father who art in heaven' was not unusual.

The first and principal part of the 'Our Father' is a prayer for the coming of the 'kingdom of God', exactly as in the Kaddish. In contrast, the primitive Christian community expressed 'eschatological' hope for the return of its hero – NOT the advent of the 'kingdom.' The 'Our Father' expresses nothing of the Christian belief that the Messiah had arrived in the person of Jesus.

" Give us our daily bread" is taken from Proverbs (30.8) composed between the 6th - 3rd century BC.

" Forgive thy neighbour if he hath hurt thee: and then shall thy sins be forgiven to thee" is taken from Ecclesiasticus (28.2) a 2nd century BC production.

There is no 'Lord's Prayer' in Mark but 'Mark' (12.29-30) has 'one of the scribes' ask JC 'which is the 1st commandment?' and the godman gives a very Jewish answer:

"The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: (Mark 12 29)"

Building on this micro story, 'Luke' has JC responding to one of his disciples.The fellow had caught sight of Jesus praying (talking to himself if we believe in the Trinity!). 'Teach us how to pray' he asks. The response is the short version of the 'Lord's Prayer' found in Luke.

'Matthew' re-worked Luke's prayer into the longer version known to all.

In short, the godman's prayer was derived from older Jewish sources.The 'Our Father' – far from being unique, original or evidence of a godman – is nothing more than a handful of recycled Jewish invocations, composed into a pithy format.

Where Did They Get Their Ideas From?

Asclepius. Believed by the Greeks to have once lived as a man and raised to a god after death. He was fathered by a god – Apollo – but with a human mother (Coronis, a beautiful maiden of Thessaly). He was raised by the centaur Chiron in a cave and from him learned the art of healing. But Asclepius committed the unpardonable sin of raising a man from the dead, enraging Hades for cheating him of dead souls. Zeus, afraid that Asclepius might render all men immortal, slew him with a thunderbolt. Apollo interceded on behalf of his son and persuaded Zeus to make Asclepius the god of medicine. As an immortal, Asclepius was able to cure the sick from the realm of the gods.

Certainly, for centuries, sick people went to the temples dedicated to Asclepius hoping for a cure. It was said that those who came to Asclepius on crutches went away dancing happily. Famous temples of the god were at Pergamum, Epidaurus, Cos and Rome. Full participation in the healing program involved sleeping inside the temple compound – in effect, the first hospitals – where 'holistic' treatment involved massage, baths and dream interpretation. Fortunate individuals did indeed experience a "healing miracle" and gave testimony to the cure effected by this Greek god.

The early Christians attacked the cult of Asclepius with great venom, indicating a close rivalry between the two cults and a certain embarrassment among Christians repeatedly being told that Asclepios had already done all of Jesus' tricks and had done them better.

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The Church Advocated Lying?

In the ferocious battle for adherents, the propagandists sought to outdo each other at every turn. One example: by the fifth century, four very different endings existed to Mark's gospel. Codex Bobiensis ends Mark at verse 16:8, without any post-crucifixion appearances; it lacks both the 'short conclusion' (of Jesus sending followers to 'east and west') or the 'long conclusion' – the fabulous post-death apparitions, where Jesus promises his disciples that they will be immune to snake bites and poison.

The Virgin Birth Fraud

The most colossal blunder of the Septuagint translators, the mistranslation of the original Hebrew text of Isaiah, 7.14, allowed deceitful early Christians to concoct their infamous prophecy that somehow the ancient Jewish text presaged the miraculous birth of their own godman.

The Hebrew original says:
'Hinneh ha-almah harah ve-yeldeth ben ve-karath shem-o immanuel.'

Honestly translated, the verse reads:
'Behold, the young woman has conceived — and bears a son and calls his name Immanuel.'

The Greek-speaking translators of Hebrew scripture (in 3rd century B.C. Alexandria) slipped up and translated 'almah' (young woman) into the Greek 'parthenos' (virgin). The Hebrew word for virgin would have been 'betulah.' The slip did not matter at the time, for in context, Isaiah’s prophesy – set in the 8th century BC but probably written in the 5th – had been given as reassurance to King Ahaz of Judah that his royal line would survive, despite the ongoing siege of Jerusalem by the Syrians. And it did. In other words, the prophesy had nothing to do with events in Judaea eight hundred years into the future!

Justin ‘Martyr’, a pagan Greek from Palestine, fled to Ephesus at the time of Bar Kochbar’s revolt (132 -135 AD). He joined the growing Christian community and found himself competing with the priests of Artemis, an eternally virgin goddess. Justin successfully overcame the sentiments of established Christians and had Mary, mother of Jesus, declared a virgin, citing his Greek copy of Isaiah as 'evidence' of scriptural prescience. The Greek priest who then forged the 'Gospel according to St. Matthew' went one stage further, taking the word 'harah' – in Hebrew a past or perfect tense – and switched it into a future tense to arrive at:

'Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel.'
(Matthew 1.23)

All this to arrive at the monstrous fiction that ancient scripture foretold of the arrival of an infant actually called Jesus!

Still Lying in 2002: Corruption in the Vatican

The Pope has chosen to canonise Juan Diego, supposedly a sixteenth century Mexican Indian who had the good fortune to have the Blessed Virgin (in the guise of 'Our Lady of Guadeloupe') impress her own image onto his cloak. Not surprisingly, Diego was a paragon of Catholic devotion, completely submissive to Spanish colonial authorities. Mind you, the story only surfaced a century after its alleged occurrence, at the height of the campaign to eradicate indigenous religions.

Commented David Brading, Professor of Mexican History at Cambridge University:

'When the Pope canonises Juan Diego, he will have elevated to sainthood the hero of a religious work of fiction.'
(The Times, 31 June 2002)
Continued The Times:

'An interview with the man given the task in 1947 of restoring Diego's cloak, on which an image of the Virgin appeared, revealed this week that the image was not a miracle. Instead, he said, it had been painted on.'

Whether we look at the Middle Ages and the Reformation, the first centuries of the Christian era or even today, Christianity has always been a fabrication, layer set upon layer of lies and nonsense, a fraud from its very inception.

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It's interesting that:

In the year 1519, the infamous conquistador Hernando Cortés set sail with a Spanish expedition of 600 men and 20 horses to Mexico. He landed in Yucatan, the territory of the Maya Indians.

The Mayas welcomed Cortés in the year of the Venus transit as the Quetzalcoatl, the white bearded and white skinned serpent God of the Aztecs. Quetzalcoatl had left the Aztecs the prophecy of ‘13 Heavens and 9 Hells’. After 13 Heavens he would return and a period of 9 Hells would start. Heaven and Hell cycles last exactly 52 years. (52 * 365 days of the Mayan Haab calendar).

The Maya’s kindness was brutally answered with gunfire. The first Mayan prophecy had come to pass; Cortés’ arrival was the start of the genocide of the Maya, the start of the 9 Hells. The Aztec leader, Montezuma summoned not to resist the Quetzalcoatl and this is why Cortés could conquer the Aztec empire with only 600 men and 20 horses!

Like most of the indigenous American Indians, the Maya were brutally murdered for the sake of advancement of the Western world and the spreading of the enlightening Christian ‘civilization’ to this savage continent.

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A mod in another thread had mentioned the Jew bashing threads on the forum. I would like yo point out the abundance of Christian bashing and assault threads also.
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Israel Antiquities Authority declares James Ossuary (and Jehoash Inscription) Fake
Well, what a surprise! The scientific panel has reached its verdict: FAKE. Long after the natural processes of a damp cave environment had coated the ossuary with "biovermiculation" and patina, someone carved a series of letters through this natural varnish. He then covered the freshly cut letters with an imitation patina made from hot water and ground chalk – a sort of baked on "soup", microfossils and all.

Only advanced technology saved us from being duped by another foolish relic. If the same scam had been tried just fifty years ago, everyone (well, almost everyone!) would have accepted this nonsense as 'real proof' of the god-man.

The warning is clear. Expect ever more sophisticated forgeries as the forgers master new technologies.

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We're warned of this from Project Blue Beam, which will grab Christianity's Jesus fanatics by the nads:

The infamous NASA [National Aeronautics and Space Administration] Blue Beam Project has four different steps in order to implement the new age religion with the Antichrist at its head.

Engineered Earthquakes & Hoaxed 'Discoveries'
The first step in the NASA Blue Beam Project concerns the breakdown [re-evaluation] of all archaeological knowledge. It deals with the set-up, with artificially created earthquakes (HAARP) at certain precise locations on the planet, of supposedly new discoveries which will finally explain to all people the "error" of all fundamental religious doctrines. The falsification of this information will be used to make all nations believe that their religious doctrines have been misunderstood for centuries and misinterpreted. Psychological preparations for that first step have already been implemented with the film, '2001: A Space Odyssey;' the StarTrek series, and 'Independence Day;' all of which deal with invasions from space and the coming together of all nations to repel the invaders. The last films, 'Jurrassic Park,' deals with the theories of evolution, and claim God's words are lies. [link to i.am]

Hoaxed "Discoveries'
What is important to understand in the first step is that those earthquakes will hit at different parts of the world where scientific and archaeological teachings have indicated that arcane mysteries have been buried. By those types of earthquakes, it will be possible for scientists to rediscover those arcane mysteries which will be used to discredit all fundamental religious doctrines. This is the first preparation for the plan for humanity because what they want to do is destroy the beliefs of all Christians and Muslims on the planet. To do that, they need some false 'proof' from the far past that will prove to all nations that their religions have all been misinterpreted and misunderstood.

The Big Space Show in the Sky
The second step in the NASA Blue Beam Project involves a gigantic 'space show' with three-dimensional optical holograms and sounds, laser projection of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to predominating regional national religious faith. This new 'god's' voice will be speaking in all languages. In order to understand that, we must study various secret services' research done in the last 25 years. The Soviet's have perfected an advanced computer, even exported them, and fed them with the minute physio-psychological particulars based on their studies of the anatomy and electromechanical composition of the human body, and the studies of the electrical, chemical and biological properties of the human brain. These computers were fed, as well, with the languages of all human cultures and their meanings. The dialects of all cultures have been fed into the computers from satellite transmissions. The Soviets began to feed the computers with objective programs like the ones of the new messiah. It also seems that the Soviets - the new world order people - have resorted to suicidal methods with the human society by allocating electronic wavelengths for every person and every society and culture to induce suicidal thoughts if the person doesn't comply with the dictates of the new world order.

There are two different aspects of step two.

The first is the 'space show.' Where does the space show come from? The space show, the holographic images will be used in a simulation of the ending during which all nations will be shown scenes that will be the fulfillment of that which they desire to verify the prophecies and adversary events.

These will be projected from satellites onto the sodium layer about 60 miles above the earth. We see tests every once in a while, but they are called UFOs and "flying saucers" sightings.

The result of these deliberately staged events will be to show the world the new 'christ,' the new messiah, Matraia (Maitreya), for the immediate implementation of the new world religion. Enough truth will be foisted upon an unsuspecting world to hook them into the lie. "Even the most learned will be deceived."

The project has perfected the ability for some device to lift up an enormous number of people, as in a rapture, and whisk the entire group into a never-never land. We see tests of this device in the abduction of humans by those mysterious little alien greys who snatch people out of their beds and through windows into waiting "mother ships." The calculated resistance to the universal religion and the new messiah and the ensuing holy wars will result in the loss of human life on a scale never imagined before in all of human history.

The Blue Beam Project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old, as major an event as that which occurred 2,000 years ago. In principle, it will make use of the skies as a movie screen (on the sodium layer at about 60 miles) as space-based laser-generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet in every language and dialect according to the region. It deals with the religious aspect of the new world order and is deception and seduction on a massive scale.

Computers will coordinate the satellites and software already in place will run the sky show. Holographic images are based on nearly identical signals combining to produce an image or hologram with deep perspective which is equally applicable to acoustic ELF, VLF and LF waves and optical phenomena. (Have you noticed the kajillion towers around?) Specifically, the show will consist of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to the specific national, regional religion. Not a single area will be excluded. With computer animation and sounds appearing to emanate from the very depths of space, astonished ardent followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messiahs in convincing lifelike reality.

Then the projections of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna, etc., will merge into one after correct explanations of the mysteries and revelations will have been disclosed. This one god will, in fact, be the Antichrist, who will explain that the various scriptures have been misunderstood and misinterpreted, and that the religions of old are responsible for turning brother against brother, and nation against nation, therefore old religions must be abolished to make way for the new age new world religion, representing the one god Antichrist they see before them.

Naturally, this superbly staged falsification will result in dissolved social and religious disorder on a grand scale, each nation blaming the other for the deception, setting loose millions of programmed religious fanatics through demonic possession on a scale never witnessed before. In addition, this event will occur at a time of profound worldwide political anarchy and general tumult created by some worldwide catastrophe. The United Nation even now plans to use Beethovan's 'Song of Joy' as the anthem for the introduction for the new age one world religion. If we put this space show in parallel with the star wars program we get this: combination of electromagnetic radiation and hypnosis which have also been the subject of intensive research. In 1974, for instance, researcher G. F. Shapits, said of one of the research proposals that, '...in this investigation it will be shown that the spoken words of the hypnotist may also be converted by electromagnetic energy directly and to the subconscious part of the human brain without employing any mechanical device for receiving or transcording the message, and without the person exposed to such influence having a chance to control the information input consciously. It may be expected that the rationalized behavior will be considered to have been taken out of their own free will.'
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A mod in another thread had mentioned the Jew bashing threads on the forum. I would like yo point out the abundance of Christian bashing and assault threads also.
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This is a very civil thread, my friend. There is no name calling or insulting of others in any opinions stated so far. I think we all agree that love is the answer. It really shouldn't matter how the answer is received but if it's received through a lie, then isn't that a sin?

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A mod in another thread had mentioned the Jew bashing threads on the forum. I would like yo point out the abundance of Christian bashing and assault threads also.

This is a very civil thread, my friend. There is no name calling or insulting of others in any opinions stated so far. I think we all agree that love is a main part of the answer. It really shouldn't matter how the answer is received but if it's received through a lie, then isn't that a sin?

Love and light to ya, my freind!
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This may answer all questions.

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It doesn't matter who you call your ultimate Creator.. or what your opinions are of the New or Old Testament. We all end up in the same place of love and light.

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Jesus Christ:


Luke 16:31
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.



John 3:15-21


That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.



John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.




John 6:35
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

John 6:47
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 18:37
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
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I do believe that Jesus did write his own Gospel, and that it has been hidden from us. I think there may be a copy hidden away in the Vatican. The Cathars also spoke of this....called it the Book of Love. It is also called the Cathar Treasure.

Yes, teachings have been distorted and people have inserted their own agenda over the years. I do believe that now is the time of separating the "wheat from the chaff". Some day we all WILL know the truth of all.
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I do believe that Jesus did write his own Gospel, and that it has been hidden from us. I think there may be a copy hidden away in the Vatican. The Cathars also spoke of this....called it the Book of Love. It is also called the Cathar Treasure.

Yes, teachings have been distorted and people have inserted their own agenda over the years. I do believe that now is the time of separating the "wheat from the chaff". Some day we all WILL know the truth of all.
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That explanation would make sense. There's something "not right" about the Vatican...
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The first book ever written in human history was the Book of Enoch.

And it describes Jesus just like the gospels do.

The line of thinking posted by the OP is just damage control by the power elite.
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There's something "not right" about the Vatican...
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Of course.

The Catholic Church is not "Christianity."

You don't understand.
You don't want to understand.
You want not to understand.

Good job, you got it.
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WHAT YOUR CHURCH AND PASTOR NEVER TOLD YOU ABOUT THE NEW TESTAMENT #1

For everyone reading this series of articles please understand that I grew up as a fundamentalist Christian. Not only that but I attended Southwestern Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth, Texas, and received a M.Div. degree. Upon completion of my degree I was quickly ordained and began in earnest my Pastoral Career. While in Seminary I encountered what seemed to me a hodgepodge of religious beliefs that seemed more disjointed than in unity. Things just did not add up and contradictions abounded. I constantly wondered how a perfect God allowed or fostered such confusion of religious beliefs; much of which seemed to consistently disagree and contradict what Israel had previously been taught by God and I could not seem to find peace about all this especially in light of the constant reiteration in the Jewish Scriptures that Israel was to be "the" light for all the world concerning the "truth" about YHVH. Prior to Seminary I read a book called Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus and this book showed me that behind passages which I had heard preached my whole life were Hebraic meanings that I have never heard. Realizing that Jesus is a Jew I quickly saw that unless I understood the passages as Jesus the Jew understood them that I did not have the actual meaning of the passage that God intended I know and understand. I had to find out the Jewish meaning of my faith. All was well until I began to further my studies in related religious studies concerning the above issues. Over the next few years I had my legs cut out from under me as I studied and encountered spiritual truths and facts that often contradicted what I had been led to believe by both the New Testament as well as other religious authority figures. I was shocked to find that what I had been told since a child was not true in many instance; I quickly realized that much of what I had "accepted by faith" was without substance and that many things taught me by my Pastor as a child and even at conservative Baptist Seminary was in error. Understand I was fortunate enough to know some professors well enough in Seminary who confided in me that "all is not as it appears" but they had to hold the "party line" in order to insure that they continued their employment and received their pay checks. But even then they were preparing me for what I would discover on my own in my personal studies into the difficult areas of Christianity and the New Testament which they would not touch in class due to the explosive nature of the subject.

It is a tragic and sad fact that most church-going Christians open their New Testaments and read without ever once considering that they are absorbing the words of a translation from the pens of biased, often politically motivated monks and ministers as transmitted through countless centuries of numerous councils and corrupt church fathers. They are unaware that the New Testament they believe to be "inspired", "infallible", and "inerrant" and which they hold so near and dear contains hundreds of many shocking contradictions and errors when compared line upon line and precept upon precept with the Jewish Scriptures that Jesus used. Understand that a superficial reading of the text once a week will illuminate this sad fact to no one. Only when one undertakes a serious investigation and study of the New Testament will one be able to see the truth about the document he relies upon for his faith and practice in this life. When one sees this for himself one is overwhelmed with the deceptions uncovered. But few ever encounter such truths and facts concerning the New Testament which sheds the light of truth upon it's many problems. When one undertakes such a comparative study where the Jewish texts are compared with the Christian texts one quickly will see that many dogmas and beliefs in one's Christian religious belief system are in error and often this results in a conduct or behavior is violates what God commanded in the Jewish Scriptures; such erroneous conduct based upon false beliefs is "sin" according to the Jewish Bible and these false beliefs and conducts pass unnoticed by the vast majority of Gentile Christianity....unnoticed that is until we die and meet God face to face and receive our Eternal Condemnation. God calls much of this "sin" and we are not aware because we never "question" what is written in our Christian translations of the Jewish texts as to if God really endorses such. Sadly we never knew there were problems; let me assure you that there are and many of them are critical problems in doctrines and dogmas that just might affect one's eternal salvation such as hidden idolatry that passes for orthodoxy in Gentile Christianity. I am here to tell you that I have questioned such "dogmas" and "doctrines" only because in my studies I ran upon conclusive contradictory evidence and factual data which brought much of the New Testament into question regarding it's validity for faith and practice. Understand both you and I originally took everything in the New Testament "by faith" as being true. It is way past time we investigate whether our faith be sound or if we have built our relationship with God on sinking sand. Again let us understand our faiths as New Testament Christians and followers of Jesus is built off the Christian document; the New Testament. Let me quote a New Testament passage which speaks the truth on the matter:

2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in "the" faith; prove your own selves.

This requires we examine the Christian documents as to their truth as it is responsible for Christians beliefs, dogmas, and doctrines!

In this passage you are told to "examine" yourselves….from the Greek:

3985 peirazo (pi-rad'-zo); from 3984; to test (objectively), i.e. endeavor, scrutinize, entice, discipline: assay, examine, go about, prove, try.

The root word is: 3984 peira (pi'-rah); from the base of 4008 (through the idea of piercing); a test, i.e. attempt, experience: assaying, trial.

Understand this is what this series of articles will accomplish. I will put the New Testament on trial as the evidence will be presented to determine if what you have accepted "by faith" is warranted or if you possibly need to reconsider what "you believe" to be true.

Also we are told to "prove" to yourself that you be in "the" faith of the early church…from the Greek;

1381 dokimazo-

1) to test, to examine, to prove, to scrutinize (to see whether a thing is genuine or not), as metals
2) to recognize as genuine after examination, to approve, to deem worthy
Understand that just because something is written in the New Testament does not mean it is true. This is a sad fact you will quickly come to realize. This is true even though the information is openly taught in major religious colleges in comparative religion classes and is readily available in most public libraries. But Christians believe that they have no need to look into such things since they are falsely reassured by their clergy that they have "the truth". I wish it were true, but my research over the years has proved such a statement totally false. In reality, it is the Jews who have the truth, have always had the truth, and will be the nation to lead the world in repentance at the advent of Messiah. The church-going public labors under deception because any damaging information about the bible has been purposely and systematically hidden by a clergy that has no illusions as to how their flocks would react if they knew the truth about "God's infallible word. "

As a prime example of this deception fundamentalist Christian ministers are notorious for attacking secular and so-called liberal Christian scholarship, which openly and bluntly publishes the truth about the state of the New Testament. Let me give you an example of such attacks by fundamentalist Christians upon the truth. In A Creationist's Defense of the King James Bible, which was written by the noted fundamentalist Christian educator, Henry M. Morris, he states:

"In any case, one of the serious problems with almost all modern English translations is that they rely heavily on Hebrew and Greek manuscripts of the Bible developed by liberals, rationalists, and evolutionists, none of whom believed in the verbal inspiration of the Bible."

The question I guess I hear the most from my readers is this: "Are we to believe that God would entrust the preservation of His eternal Word to men such as these?" This is nothing more than an assumption; one which fails to take into consideration the free-will of men to defy God and His commandments. As you study with us you will see beyond a shadow of doubt that God does oversee His Word to preserve it; however, it is not the New Testament nor the Christian Old Testament which has been preserved but the Jewish Masoretic Text which is the backbone of the Jewish Bible today (JPS Translation and the Stone Edition Tanakh). For over thousands of years only minute differences appear in these Jewish texts where as the New Testament and the Christian's Old Testament has hundreds of thousands of conflicts and disagreements...many, many of which are in crucial and particular places that affect not only atonement, forgiveness, but Messianic beliefs as well. Simply said the Christian's Bible has been "fixed" long ago and few today know of this tragic adulteration of God's Holy Word! One thing is for certain: the Jewish Scholars and the Jewish people know of it and that is why the vast majority of them cannot accept many things taught about the Messiah in the Christian documents.

IS THERE A PERFECT BIBLE?
What you must understand after reading such a quote above is that Dr. Morris' idea of the perfect bible translation was the King James Version (El Cajon, Ca.: Institute For Creation Research, 1996, p. 5). I know, many of you are thinking "what is so wrong with that"? When you come to the knowledge of the hundreds of corruptions and outright purposeful mistranslations and misquotations in the King James Bible (both OT and NT) which does severe injustice to the Jewish Hebrew Scriptures, you will not longer ask such a question. As you read this series of informative articles you will see that one of the most severe violations of intellectual integrity by the founders of Christianity is shown by their gross distortions of the Old Testament for purposes of indoctrination. In their never-ending quest for religious legitimacy and status, the writers of the New Testament have not hesitated to twist, distort, pervert, and concoct Old Testament verses as expediency dictated. Here the true colors of the creators of Christianity come through in all their radiant splendor. Examples of their dishonest display of propagandistic propensities are abundantly evident to anyone with a reasonably critical eye. You need to know that although it is not my purpose in this series of article to expose individual examples of such errors we at Bet Emet have demonstrated hundreds of such errors in these textual fabrications and purposeful mistranslations for theological advantage in two of our other websites in order for you to see these examples for yourself:

[link to returningtofaithofyeshua.freeservers.com] &

[link to paulproblem.faithweb.com]

Upon your individual and persistent study you will come to see without a doubt an overall scheme of dishonesty by the writers of the New Testament and the translators of the Jewish Old Testament Scriptures.

Such deceptions and distortions by the writers of the New Testament and the Essene translators of the Jewish Palestinian Masoretic text fall into three broad categories: misquotations, nonquotes, and misinterpretations. A misquotation is defined as deliberately misquoting an Old Testament passage; a nonquote consists of quoting a non-existent Old Testament passage, and a misinterpretation consists of correctly quoting an Old Testament passage while distorting the meaning intended. In these series of article I plan on dealing primarily with the New Testament and since doing so I plan on showing you that the crafters and writers of the New Testament are guilty on all the counts in hundred of places and only a reasonably critical eye and knowledge of true Jewish Masoretic text, called unfortunately today the "Old" Testament Scripture, is necessary to spot such perversions in the New Testament. If one is interested in individual examples of such New Testament distortions of the Old Testament and the Jewish Scriptures one needs only to examine not only this webpage but the documentation on this website as well as they contain evidence to prove our point.

But you must see it for yourself. This is the purpose of not only this series of articles but Bet Emet Ministries; to reveal the truth for New Testament believers by exposing the unsoundness of such a document in hopes one will repent of such false beliefs once he sees the truth for himself. Israel is the light of the world and God did not make a mistake in commissioning them to be so and it is high time we as Gentile believers learn our place in the economy of God. We must always remember that with every lie exposed and repented of one takes a closer step toward the God of Truth.

Answer for yourself: When one come to the truth behind the New Testament and sees for himself that God never said or gave mankind such dogmas and doctrines as contained in the New Testament, then why follow them?

Let us see what other fundamentalist Christians have to say on the matter. In an article entitled Modern Bible Versions Are Dangerous-Watch Out For Them!, the directors of the Fundamental Evangelistic Association of Los Osos, California has this to say about so-called liberal Christian scholarship:

"We must also be aware that the Bible is under attack. Satan, who succeeded in selling the first 'reviled' edition of God's Word to Eve in the Garden of Eden, has surely been busy in this 20th century along the same lines.... It was not until the publication of the Revised Standard Version in 1946 and 1952 that many Fundamentalists became aware of how effectively a new Bible version or translation could be used as a tool of Satan" (Modern Bible Versions Are Dangerous-Watch Out For Them! Fundamental Evangelistic Association, Los Osos, California, pp. 1,6).

Having Pastored for years I noticed that many fundamentalist ministers spend almost as much time denouncing so-called liberal scholarship as they do in preaching from "God's infallible word." Their time would be better served looking into what the Liberal Christian scholars have to say. I did. I started out to prove them wrong for after all the New Testament "says this" and "says that". But when I undertook such a task in defense of the New Testament I was quickly presented with evidence and facts which exposed my New Testament as a fraud in many but not all places! Read the last sentence again. I said many but not "all" places. God desires we have faith in truth and not fables or anti-Semitic lies. Having seen the evidence then repentance in many of my religious beliefs was the only course for me to take. Such condemnation by fundamentalist Christians who have not evaluated the evidence for themselves is a tactic which is sadly quite successful in warning Christians away from any damaging information, which in turn ensures the continued financial profitability of the Christian religion. Understand the basis for much repudiation of "factual truths" by the fundamentalist branch of Christianity. If they were to stand before their flocks and tell them that they were wrong and that their New Testament is flawed in hundreds of places, then they would lose their following and their financial backing. They would have to get a real job and that is beneath most who have lived off the ignorance of their flocks. Perhaps in fairness it should be said that the blame for such deception cannot be laid fully at the feet of the present-day clergy, because, as we shall now see, many of these men simply do not know these truths for themselves due to their lack of intense study and others are simply carrying on a long Christian tradition which they were never taught to question. Only by the grace of God did I run across materials in my years of study which challenged my Christian beliefs, and taking such challenges I responded to prove myself vindicated in my beliefs. I was overwhelmed at times at the evidence I uncovered which proved my "error laden" New Testament for what it really was…..a combination and mixture of anti-semitic religious lies carried over from pagan mystery religions and gnosticism along with small amounts of Jewish truth.
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I think that you are a Satanic infiltrator, and that half of all you have told us is just regergitated Bullshit that I hear all the time from Satanists. Birds of a feather...
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Re: Why I do not accept the New Testament as a reliable source of the teachings of Jesus
I think that you are a Satanic infiltrator, and that half of all you have told us is just regergitated Bullshit that I hear all the time from Satanists. Birds of a feather...
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I love our Ultimate Creator and He loves me. He is NOT Satan as you surmise.

How comfortable are you resting your eternal security upon the work of 3 men, 3 Catholics, let alone considering the hundreds of thousands of conflicting scriptures contained in such a document called the New Testament?


Do you fear God? Why?

Do you know what version of the Bible you read? Any clue? Do you know the differences and the omissions? Do you know why they were omitted?

Do you even care?
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