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Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 1:19 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Holy SHIT! You mean there is another retarded thread about the Sun being TOO FAR SOUTH TOO!!!!AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!This is like the ultimate retardo-thon! Words fail me trying to describe how FUCKING STUPID YOU ALL ARE!!!! Do you actually think the sensible people here are in on some conspiracy? The Earth is actually falling into the Sun and no one but you FUCKING MORONS noticed it? YOUR LIFE WOULD BE OVER WITHIN AN HOUR IF THE EARTH WAS COMING OUT OF ITS ORBIT YOU FUCKING DIMWITS!! What the FUCK are they teaching in schools these days? HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CANNOT BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE THIS STUPID OUTSIDE OF LOONY BINS!!!


Very well said. I would buy you are a beer or drink of your choice if I could pour it down a cat5 cable without destroying my router.
 Quoting: Curtis Loew


Yeah, that was so succinct that I'm archiving it for future use. Hope it's author doesn't mind
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 294313
6/11/2008 1:25 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Go to Stonehenge in 10 days time, and if its a clear day, the sun will shine through the monolith as always. Proving this thread meaningless.
DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 8:02 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

You apparently don't know that she is the original source of the most of the bullshit you believe in. That is true, whether you know it or not.

You need me to take you by the hand and lead you to a library? Not likely, sparky.

Why did you ignore this part?:

1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened?
 Quoting: Menow 449281

She is not my source, jerk. And she does not speak for me. You are a manipulative piece of crap. I told you from the start that I doubt this is true but was asking for proof, so take your anger and shove it up your ass. So far, you have not provided any proof, you mean-spirited piece of crap.
DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 8:05 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Go to Stonehenge in 10 days time, and if its a clear day, the sun will shine through the monolith as always. Proving this thread meaningless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 294313

You may be right, but I want to see the pic comparisons. So far I cant find this proof.
Dee
User ID: 536
6/11/2008 8:23 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

What fascinates me most about the sun is it's "mythological" history, factoring what has been obscured, distorted, with the intensity of angry these dark-siders display it sounds a bit to me like something extrordinary is about to happen and they don't like it one iota.

Maybe has something to do with too much "heat" in their immediate futures lol.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429245
6/11/2008 8:35 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

I have thought something is wrong with the Sun.

All of the threads saying the Sun is in various positions are aimed to discredit this thread, imo.

That is what makes me think there is truth, (over and above my own feelings) that something is wrong.
Beezle
User ID: 449895
6/11/2008 8:41 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

I have thought something is wrong with the Sun.

All of the threads saying the Sun is in various positions are aimed to discredit this thread, imo.

That is what makes me think there is truth, (over and above my own feelings) that something is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429245


So... all the proof that the sun is in the right place... make you feel something is wrong?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 351208
6/11/2008 8:41 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

the sun isnt real. TPTB make us believe its there to enslave us. They even fooled the trees which is genius.









everyone is just trolling ( i hope)
except maybe darkstarcrashes (he really is that stupid)
Dee
User ID: 536
6/11/2008 8:50 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

What is real and lasting is going to shock the shit out of most of us. Trees show more intelligence than some of the trolls here..lol
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 449879
6/11/2008 8:50 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

The sun is white, no longer yellow.

And it is rising by 2 degrees more northernly.
DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 9:11 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

The sun is white, no longer yellow.

And it is rising by 2 degrees more northernly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879

I 100% agree with the color change and it appears to be more north than normal, but I am not 100% sure. How do you know it's 2 degrees?
Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 9:50 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

You apparently don't know that she is the original source of the most of the bullshit you believe in. That is true, whether you know it or not.

You need me to take you by the hand and lead you to a library? Not likely, sparky.

Why did you ignore this part?:

1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened?

She is not my source, jerk.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887


So who or what is? It is a fact that Nancy Lieder and "zetas" originated this "sun out of place" thing.

And she does not speak for me. You are a manipulative piece of crap.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887


You are getting really defensive. Why?

I told you from the start that I doubt this is true but was asking for proof,
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887


Why would you be so demanding for proof(obstinately so) against something you "doubt"? You are not making any sense.

so take your anger and shove it up your ass.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887


*MY* anger?? You are projecting, sparky.


So far, you have not provided any proof,
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887


Now you are suddenly back to demanding voluminous proof against something you already "doubt"? We have explained many reasons why the Sun could not possibly be out of place. You appear to have ignored each and every one. Not the least of which is this, which you continue to willfully ignore:

Repeat: 1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened?

I told you exactly how to go about getting the non-computer charts you demand. You have no response and I am willing to bet you will never bother to do any such thing.


you mean-spirited piece of crap.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887


Wow. I simply tell you where your fantasy originated and you go ballistic. Live with it, sparky. It's true.
Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 9:53 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

What fascinates me most about the sun is it's "mythological" history, factoring what has been obscured, distorted, with the intensity of angry these dark-siders display it sounds a bit to me like something extrordinary is about to happen and they don't like it one iota.

Maybe has something to do with too much "heat" in their immediate futures lol.
 Quoting: Dee 536


You don't understand the frustration of seeing the same idiotic bullshit repeated year after year, and being called "shills" and "dark-siders" for telling people the truth?
Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 9:56 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

The sun is white, no longer yellow.

And it is rising by 2 degrees more northernly.

I 100% agree with the color change and it appears to be more north than normal, but I am not 100% sure. How do you know it's 2 degrees?
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887


You just said that you "doubted" the story of the Sun being north. Now you say it appears to be true? let me guess.... You're what we call a "blithering idiot", right?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 351208
6/11/2008 9:56 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

the thing is it gets to the stage that for this conspiracy to be true everyone would have to be in on it except YOU. so the entire world is hiding the truth from YOU.

People who believe this stuff really have a mental illness. They are to be treated with kid gloves.

p.s for the sun to be to far north the earth would have to have tilted. that would mean that in the northen hemisphere we would be experiancing abnomaly long days. The sun would not set it lattitudes that it should.The southern hemisphere would have very short days compared to normal winter time. In others words it would be very obvious and everyone would notice (like its 1 in the morning and the sun hasnt set).

anyway its still funny
Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 10:01 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

the thing is it gets to the stage that for this conspiracy to be true everyone would have to be in on it except YOU. so the entire world is hiding the truth from YOU.

People who believe this stuff really have a mental illness. They are to be treated with kid gloves.

p.s for the sun to be to far north the earth would have to have tilted. that would mean that in the northen hemisphere we would be experiancing abnomaly long days. The sun would not set it lattitudes that it should.The southern hemisphere would have very short days compared to normal winter time. In others words it would be very obvious and everyone would notice (like its 1 in the morning and the sun hasnt set).

anyway its still funny
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 351208



Well, they believe some of that stuff is actually happening, so don't encourage them. You are right about what it takes to believe this crap. The bottome line is that they believe in conspiracy-- from everywhere all the time. They are truly paranoid.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 449879
6/11/2008 10:36 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

The sun is white, no longer yellow.

And it is rising by 2 degrees more northernly.

I 100% agree with the color change and it appears to be more north than normal, but I am not 100% sure. How do you know it's 2 degrees?
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887


Well, for the part that it is white, I have no proof, simple observation should suffice.
And even if you are not paying attention you should ask yourself if you remember from 4 years back if it hurt your eyes as much as it hurts today.
I don't even have to look in the direction of the sun and I immediately feel the pain. I used to go by without sun glasses, something that I simply can't do today.

As for the change in it's (actually change in Earths position) path... I have been living in my home for 20 years now.

And in this particular room, facing East for 6 years. And there is a house just to the left from where I look outside.

And in the previous years, in the exact same time (exams period), the Sun would always wake me up. It would shine for approximately 2 hours straight into my room.

Well now it appears that the house on the left of me is blocking the sunlight.
So as a result, I get absolutely no direct sunlight in my room.

Oh and Menow and Setheoty (or whatever are your names)... I will not argue with you. I know for a fact that you are shills... Don't know for what, but you are.

And this is my, completely subjective observation and no scientific explanation will change my point of view on this one.

I wont respond to your "scientists this, scientists that" line of arguments.
jlazarus
User ID: 348904
6/11/2008 10:44 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Your getting tired of it??? then ignore it!

I have been here at GLP for five years and most of you "debunkers" have been rude and arrogant to those who felt safe here reporting what seemed to be anomolies.
You are projecting your fears on others and you are not willing to admit that YOUR version of reality may not suit everyone else.

Get over it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 402039

That's a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?

Seriously, search on my name and posts. I am rarely rude to *anyone* here. Nor do I post from fear mode, so not sure where you get that one....

I am not a debunker. Why do you feel the need to label me such?

I am a realist maybe. I embrace science, yes. I also believe that there is a lot more going on behind the scenes - more ways than one - and seek to learn and be enlightened by intelligent discussion. Yes, GLP can often have intelligent threads/discussions.

But on this thread and another recent thread, I noticed that it seemed more of the 'non-debunkers' that were attacking - for no apparent reason, and yes, it does get tiring.

But you are right - I am over it :) All is well and I realize that you, like the rest of us, are just doing the best you can.
I will accept any rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. ~ Robert Heinlein
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 449960
6/11/2008 10:49 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Zetas Right Again!
(they say earth wobble causes North Pole to move in a figure 8 pattern, which is also responsible for increase in tornados, and other weather anomolies)

ufo56
..dubya
Cat Man
User ID: 442332
6/11/2008 10:58 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Hey people, check out divulgence.net/ and see what you think about the earths axis slipping 26 degrees to the south over the last few years, due to the polar ice caps melting. According to them he axis shift isn't over, that it will keep on going on for the next few years until the poles are 90 degrees horizontal to the south of what they are now. Look for yourself, go out in your yard or your driveway and look at the sunsets, you will see that the sun is setting farther to the northwest now, not like it always did in the past setting due west. You will also notice if you look that there is a lot more sun coming in the north windows of your house now in the evenings. They also said that all the worlds governments and scientists have been keeping this a secret and have also been spraying chemicals high in the atmosphere to try to keep the worlds climate more like were used to; but I don't think that is going to keep working much longer. Good luck to all of us trying to survive in this new world.
Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 10:59 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

The sun is white, no longer yellow.

And it is rising by 2 degrees more northernly.

I 100% agree with the color change and it appears to be more north than normal, but I am not 100% sure. How do you know it's 2 degrees?


Well, for the part that it is white, I have no proof, simple observation should suffice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


Really. I guess you are blissfully unaware of the debate about what color to CALL the Sun. There has never been a firm consensus. You idiots think you have discovered something new.

And even if you are not paying attention you should ask yourself if you remember from 4 years back if it hurt your eyes as much as it hurts today.
I don't even have to look in the direction of the sun and I immediately feel the pain. I used to go by without sun glasses, something that I simply can't do today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


You are apparently equally oblivious to the effects of aging on Human eyes. Bully for you! Ignorance is your utopia!

As for the change in it's (actually change in Earths position) path... I have been living in my home for 20 years now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


Well, that is informational... not.

And in this particular room, facing East for 6 years. And there is a house just to the left from where I look outside.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


Exactly due east or are you guessing? I'm betting GUESSING.

And in the previous years, in the exact same time (exams period), the Sun would always wake me up. It would shine for approximately 2 hours straight into my room.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


Well the Sun does rise generally "in the east", so you are on the right track. You don't have an actual date for this? Just "exam time"? "Exam time" can change. The location of Sunrise on a specific date does not change.

Well now it appears that the house on the left of me is blocking the sunlight.
So as a result, I get absolutely no direct sunlight in my room.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


"Appears"? You can't tell for sure if it is blocking the Sun?? There is something fishy about your statement.

I think you may have changed rooms. There has to be another explanation than that Earth has tilted and the world's astronomers missed it.

Oh and Menow and Setheoty (or whatever are your names)... I will not argue with you. I know for a fact that you are shills... Don't know for what, but you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


Well, so much for your knowledge of "facts". Funny how you can only attack us on a personal level, but not address our logical points.

And this is my, completely subjective observation and no scientific explanation will change my point of view on this one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


Interesting. You cling to the subjective and reject the objective. That says a lot.

I wont respond to your "scientists this, scientists that" line of arguments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


Interesting. So you summarily reject the input of the world's astronomers? Typical.
Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 11:01 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Hey people, check out divulgence.net/ and see what you think about the earths axis slipping 26 degrees to the south over the last few years, due to the polar ice caps melting. According to them he axis shift isn't over, that it will keep on going on for the next few years until the poles are 90 degrees horizontal to the south of what they are now. Look for yourself, go out in your yard or your driveway and look at the sunsets, you will see that the sun is setting farther to the northwest now, not like it always did in the past setting due west. You will also notice if you look that there is a lot more sun coming in the north windows of your house now in the evenings. They also said that all the worlds governments and scientists have been keeping this a secret and have also been spraying chemicals high in the atmosphere to try to keep the worlds climate more like were used to; but I don't think that is going to keep working much longer. Good luck to all of us trying to survive in this new world.
 Quoting: Cat Man 442332


Let's just skip right to the end of the discussion, shall we?

Idiot.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 186361
6/11/2008 11:22 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Hey people, check out divulgence.net/ and see what you think about the earths axis slipping 26 degrees to the south over the last few years, due to the polar ice caps melting. According to them he axis shift isn't over, that it will keep on going on for the next few years until the poles are 90 degrees horizontal to the south of what they are now. Look for yourself, go out in your yard or your driveway and look at the sunsets, you will see that the sun is setting farther to the northwest now, not like it always did in the past setting due west. You will also notice if you look that there is a lot more sun coming in the north windows of your house now in the evenings. They also said that all the worlds governments and scientists have been keeping this a secret and have also been spraying chemicals high in the atmosphere to try to keep the worlds climate more like were used to; but I don't think that is going to keep working much longer. Good luck to all of us trying to survive in this new world.
 Quoting: Cat Man 442332


Nope, I've lived in the same house for 25 years and the sun is precisely between the two facing houses as it sets, as it always is in June.

Also, how have the worlds governments got all the hundreds of thousands of amateur astrononmers to keep quiet about this?

There's no hope for some poeple.
Setheory
User ID: 411370
6/11/2008 11:24 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

your computer is easily manipulated. Lets see better proof. No need to be a dick.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594


Wait....so you are saying that you believe the government could be hacking into his computer and changing the code in his astronomical programs?

Is that what you are saying?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 449879
6/11/2008 11:29 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

What does Menow do here exactly?

Anybody know a good reason why any person would spend their whole days just debunking one single issue?

Shill alert! Shill alert! Shill alert!


Questions for God The Guy 1 172

Question about "chemtrails" The Guy 1 311

Summer Solstice in Ten Days - What will the "Sun Too Far North" folks say then? DrPostman 1 151

Snow in June???? Anonymous Coward 4
Sun IS too far north, regardless of what shills say
SUN setting in the NORTH? Anonymous Coward
Do you belive Nancy's theory? Anonymous Coward
Post your planet X/Nibiru Updates here Mr X 9
ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 7 Nancy Lieder 10
SUN? Anonymous Coward 2 6444

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 31 Nancy Lieder 5

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 24


And this is just in the last month.

Go search him for himself, you will find him in every single thread about sun/moon/Zetatalk/Nibiru/ Global changes...

Where he is constantly debunking them.

Why Menow? Do you really care just about this in your life?

I think not, but I think that you do care about the money, correct?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 449997
6/11/2008 11:37 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

The sun is white, no longer yellow.

And it is rising by 2 degrees more northernly.

I 100% agree with the color change and it appears to be more north than normal, but I am not 100% sure. How do you know it's 2 degrees?


Well, for the part that it is white, I have no proof, simple observation should suffice.
And even if you are not paying attention you should ask yourself if you remember from 4 years back if it hurt your eyes as much as it hurts today.
I don't even have to look in the direction of the sun and I immediately feel the pain. I used to go by without sun glasses, something that I simply can't do today.

As for the change in it's (actually change in Earths position) path... I have been living in my home for 20 years now.

And in this particular room, facing East for 6 years. And there is a house just to the left from where I look outside.

And in the previous years, in the exact same time (exams period), the Sun would always wake me up. It would shine for approximately 2 hours straight into my room.

Well now it appears that the house on the left of me is blocking the sunlight.
So as a result, I get absolutely no direct sunlight in my room.

Oh and Menow and Setheoty (or whatever are your names)... I will not argue with you. I know for a fact that you are shills... Don't know for what, but you are.

And this is my, completely subjective observation and no scientific explanation will change my point of view on this one.

I wont respond to your "scientists this, scientists that" line of arguments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


google sun's+1500+year+cycle for possible explanation of sun's color and brightness.
Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 11:39 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

What does Menow do here exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


I address issues that interest me. You?

Anybody know a good reason why any person would spend their whole days just debunking one single issue?

Shill alert! Shill alert! Shill alert!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


Paranoid idiot alert.

Questions for God The Guy 1 172

Question about "chemtrails" The Guy 1 311

Summer Solstice in Ten Days - What will the "Sun Too Far North" folks say then? DrPostman 1 151

Snow in June???? Anonymous Coward 4
Sun IS too far north, regardless of what shills say
SUN setting in the NORTH? Anonymous Coward
Do you belive Nancy's theory? Anonymous Coward
Post your planet X/Nibiru Updates here Mr X 9
ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 7 Nancy Lieder 10
SUN? Anonymous Coward 2 6444

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 31 Nancy Lieder 5

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 24
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


And you call that list "one single issue"?

And this is just in the last month.

Go search him for himself, you will find him in every single thread about sun/moon/Zetatalk/Nibiru/ Global changes...

Where he is constantly debunking them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


This is an area that interests me. I am fascinated by the proliferation of bullshit about those things. Get it?

Why Menow? Do you really care just about this in your life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


My interest in posting the truth about these subjects is somehow negative as opposed to those who post paranoid, factless rants?

I think not, but I think that you do care about the money, correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449879


One more paranoid rant.
DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 12:36 PM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

The sun is white, no longer yellow.

And it is rising by 2 degrees more northernly.

I 100% agree with the color change and it appears to be more north than normal, but I am not 100% sure. How do you know it's 2 degrees?


You just said that you "doubted" the story of the Sun being north. Now you say it appears to be true? let me guess.... You're what we call a "blithering idiot", right?
 Quoting: Menow 449281

Wow are you retarded. I told you I see these things like the OP but I do not knoew for sure amd am looking for proof. You on the other hand are an ass just looking to spew hate. Go bug some one else. You are boring me.
DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 12:41 PM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Well, for the part that it is white, I have no proof, simple observation should suffice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449997


I AGREE

I don't even have to look in the direction of the sun and I immediately feel the pain. I used to go by without sun glasses, something that I simply can't do today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449997


I AGREE TOTALLY

As for the change in it's (actually change in Earths position) path... I have been living in my home for 20 years now. And in this particular room, facing East for 6 years. And there is a house just to the left from where I look outside. And in the previous years, in the exact same time (exams period), the Sun would always wake me up. It would shine for approximately 2 hours straight into my room. Well now it appears that the house on the left of me is blocking the sunlight. so as a result, I get absolutely no direct sunlight in my room.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449997


I SEE SIMILIAR THINGS.
Only Half a Brain
User ID: 450017
6/11/2008 12:57 PM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

I live near Chichen Itza in Mexico....the pyramid is thousands of years old. I go up every equinox and solstice, and the snake effects etc are all STILL perfectly lined up. Explain THAT, ya FUCKIN MORONS!!
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