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| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:00 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
seems here, like the chemtrail threads, the amount of anger and hostility seeping out is oddly disproportionate to the subject.
Like it's personal somehow??
Clearly earth is going through catastrophic change right now due in part to the changes in the sun but these changes effect us as well at the cellular level.
Now looking as if it were personal, taking it to a spiritual level wouldn't darkness furiously suppress any knowledge relating to the sun or its effect if ultimately it eliminates spiritual darkness.
Why It ticks them off just mentioning it isn't yellow anymore.. Too me that mighty strange.
Hey Dee. I agree. Hyper-defensiveness is sign of manipulation and/or guilt. What I find most interesting is these regular dirtballs all agree 100% accross the board with all government official stories no matter how ridiculous...9/11, chemtrails, moon missions, JFK, mercury in vaccines, DU, IRS tax scam, etc.
We went to the Moon. Get a clue.
No one has yet been able to describe the difference, in the sky, between contrails and "chemtrails". I have been watching and waiting for one of you to do that. Maybe you will be the first? I seriously doubt it.
What is the common denominator(ask your dad what that means) of your personal beliefs? Paranoid belief in conspirators behind every tree.
You are broad-brushing all the rest of those categories. I have never said anything about them on GLP. Actually, I have never spoken about the Moon missions until this thread. You are making a strawman argument there( again, ask your dad). |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373646
6/11/2008 5:05 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I work at 11pm - 7 am EST and Im not noticing the sun rising much further north than it should be.. In fact, I watch the sun rise every morning and its always in the same spot.. It is pretty far north though.. But I haven't been a very keen observer of its traditional rising point over the years so I have not much for a comparison.
One thing I noticed is the moon last week was near the sun while it was rising then a few days later I noticed it way west low in the sky about 2 am in the morning.. I thought that was a fast transition from where it was a few days earlier which was in the eastern sky but not really visible till the sun started coming up or about an hour prior to the sun coming up.
Something I've noticed the last few weeks on my shift, which involves sitting in a security shack at the north end of a car plant factory, is; at 3:30 AM a few birds were up and chirping away.... Thats a few hours before sun rise which seems to come sometime between 5:15 and 5:45 EST.. That seemed somewhat odd to me... I've also aboserved a few birds flying just random low flight paths around the shipping yard when Im out on my foot patrols. Just flying like their lost, going in odd circles, damn thing nearly flew into me..Again at around 3:45 am.. Which is an odd time indeed.. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447169
6/11/2008 5:05 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Hey Dee. I agree. Hyper-defensiveness is sign of manipulation and/or guilt. What I find most interesting is these regular dirtballs all agree 100% accross the board with all government official stories no matter how ridiculous...9/11, chemtrails, moon missions, JFK, mercury in vaccines, DU, IRS tax scam, etc. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
What I find most interesting is people like you will believe any conspiracy when no proof or evidence of it exists. |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 5:10 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
We went to the Moon. Get a clue.
No one has yet been able to describe the difference, in the sky, between contrails and "chemtrails". I have been watching and waiting for one of you to do that. Maybe you will be the first? I seriously doubt it.
What is the common denominator(ask your dad what that means) of your personal beliefs? Paranoid belief in conspirators behind every tree.
You are broad-brushing all the rest of those categories. I have never said anything about them on GLP. Actually, I have never spoken about the Moon missions until this thread. You are making a strawman argument there( again, ask your dad). Quoting: Menow 449281
Hilarious. I am a lawyer. My dad asks me for advice, asshat.
If you can't see the difference between a contrail:
[link to staytondailyphoto.com]
and a chemtrail:
[link to www-pm.larc.nasa.gov]
then you are majorly retarded.
If you want an education let me know. I have a special needs class you can sit in on. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Pal, you got some serious issues and you need to get a life. We are all only chatting in here for fun. Get a grip. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
You know, sonny, in the mature adult world, we tend to take what we say as a mark of our honesty and integrity.
It's nice that you now admit you are only playing games for fun and dicking with people.
The things that the ones you all are fond of calling "shills" have been demonstrably accurate whether you ever go to the trouble to find out or not. What you post, on the other hand, has been devoid of any mature, logical thinking whatsoever. Why don't you just go and wallow in your little pet, paranoid, conspiracy theories, such as that all astronomers lie, and keep it between you and your pimple-popping buddies? |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 5:12 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Hey Dee. I agree. Hyper-defensiveness is sign of manipulation and/or guilt. What I find most interesting is these regular dirtballs all agree 100% accross the board with all government official stories no matter how ridiculous...9/11, chemtrails, moon missions, JFK, mercury in vaccines, DU, IRS tax scam, etc.
What I find most interesting is people like you will believe any conspiracy when no proof or evidence of it exists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 447169
Just saying there is no proof means nothing. Watch Loose Change 2nd Ed., then talk to me. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 351208
6/11/2008 5:17 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Just saying there is no proof means nothing. Watch Loose Change 2nd Ed., then talk to me. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
loose change is a good exapmle. the first time you watch it you do think there is something to the 9/11 conspiracy. Then you re watch it with a critial eye; hear from other sources and you realize its all a load of crap.
that is why us debunkers post in these threads.
p.s i've always hate lawyers. nice to know your one. |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 5:18 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
You know, sonny, in the mature adult world, we tend to take what we say as a mark of our honesty and integrity.
It's nice that you now admit you are only playing games for fun and dicking with people.
The things that the ones you all are fond of calling "shills" have been demonstrably accurate whether you ever go to the trouble to find out or not. What you post, on the other hand, has been devoid of any mature, logical thinking whatsoever. Why don't you just go and wallow in your little pet, paranoid, conspiracy theories, such as that all astronomers lie, and keep it between you and your pimple-popping buddies? Quoting: Menow 449281
Hilarious. I did not say I was playing games, dufus. Hell, I bet I'm older than you Mr. Assumption Man. I laugh at you. You want to debate me on 9/11? lets go. I will mop the floor with you. |
| Free Store.
User ID: 144728
6/11/2008 5:19 PM
 | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Actually, I have never spoken about the Moon missions until this thread. Quoting: Menow 449281
One of my earliest threads was, 'Did NASA go to the Moon'
Menow argued 20 plus pages with me :>
.................... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 449879
6/11/2008 5:19 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Pal, you got some serious issues and you need to get a life. We are all only chatting in here for fun. Get a grip.
You know, sonny, in the mature adult world, we tend to take what we say as a mark of our honesty and integrity.
It's nice that you now admit you are only playing games for fun and dicking with people.
The things that the ones you all are fond of calling "shills" have been demonstrably accurate whether you ever go to the trouble to find out or not. What you post, on the other hand, has been devoid of any mature, logical thinking whatsoever. Why don't you just go and wallow in your little pet, paranoid, conspiracy theories, such as that all astronomers lie, and keep it between you and your pimple-popping buddies? Quoting: Menow 449281
You are so funny. What, do you think this is Oxford? Or maybe you thought this is NASA science club and that we need to be educated???
LOL
Get a grip on yourself and find a site that will suit your power trip needs of proving how smart you are.
And let the rest of us enjoy this conspiracy site. |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 5:20 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Just saying there is no proof means nothing. Watch Loose Change 2nd Ed., then talk to me.
loose change is a good exapmle. the first time you watch it you do think there is something to the 9/11 conspiracy. Then you re watch it with a critial eye; hear from other sources and you realize its all a load of crap.
that is why us debunkers post in these threads.
p.s i've always hate lawyers. nice to know your one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 351208
Give me your best example. I say you are lying. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:21 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I work at 11pm - 7 am EST and Im not noticing the sun rising much further north than it should be.. In fact, I watch the sun rise every morning and its always in the same spot.. It is pretty far north though.. But I haven't been a very keen observer of its traditional rising point over the years so I have not much for a comparison. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373646
Good of you to admit that. I wish others would be that honest.
One thing I noticed is the moon last week was near the sun while it was rising then a few days later I noticed it way west low in the sky about 2 am in the morning.. I thought that was a fast transition from where it was a few days earlier which was in the eastern sky but not really visible till the sun started coming up or about an hour prior to the sun coming up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373646
The moon moves radically in the sky. That's just the way it works. There are lots of resources for information on that. It is really quite fascinating.
[link to soc.haifa.ac.il]
Something I've noticed the last few weeks on my shift, which involves sitting in a security shack at the north end of a car plant factory, is; at 3:30 AM a few birds were up and chirping away.... Thats a few hours before sun rise which seems to come sometime between 5:15 and 5:45 EST.. That seemed somewhat odd to me... I've also aboserved a few birds flying just random low flight paths around the shipping yard when Im out on my foot patrols. Just flying like their lost, going in odd circles, damn thing nearly flew into me..Again at around 3:45 am.. Which is an odd time indeed.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373646
I don't know what that has to do with the astronomical subject of this thread, but twilight begins quite a while before actual sunrise. You can look that up too. Some weather sites have that info. Birds certainly know when morning is approaching. |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 5:24 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
p.s i've always hate lawyers. nice to know your one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 351208
Everyone hates lawyers until you need one. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:26 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Actually, I have never spoken about the Moon missions until this thread.
One of my earliest threads was, 'Did NASA go to the Moon'
Menow argued 20 plus pages with me :> Quoting: Free Store.
I don't recall that. I have faith, however, that you never offered anything lucid. |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 5:31 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I work at 11pm - 7 am EST and Im not noticing the sun rising much further north than it should be.. In fact, I watch the sun rise every morning and its always in the same spot.. It is pretty far north though.. But I haven't been a very keen observer of its traditional rising point over the years so I have not much for a comparison.
One thing I noticed is the moon last week was near the sun while it was rising then a few days later I noticed it way west low in the sky about 2 am in the morning.. I thought that was a fast transition from where it was a few days earlier which was in the eastern sky but not really visible till the sun started coming up or about an hour prior to the sun coming up.
Something I've noticed the last few weeks on my shift, which involves sitting in a security shack at the north end of a car plant factory, is; at 3:30 AM a few birds were up and chirping away.... Thats a few hours before sun rise which seems to come sometime between 5:15 and 5:45 EST.. That seemed somewhat odd to me... I've also aboserved a few birds flying just random low flight paths around the shipping yard when Im out on my foot patrols. Just flying like their lost, going in odd circles, damn thing nearly flew into me..Again at around 3:45 am.. Which is an odd time indeed.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373646
The sun obviously sets further north during the summer in the USA. Some newbies notice this for the first tme and think something is going on. However, some people in good faith think it's too far to the north. It appears that way to me too, but I cannot be sure. What I find interesting is that no one can prove it, one way or the other. All anyone does is yell. I see no proof so far. |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 5:34 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Good of you to admit that. I wish others would be that honest. Quoting: Menow 449281
I said many times I was not sure, you lying ass. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373696
6/11/2008 5:36 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
p.s i've always hate lawyers. nice to know your one.
Everyone hates lawyers until you need one. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
Good god, a lawyer/deadhead. That's just sad. But it explains alot, like argueing for fun, and denying the obvious. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:37 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
We went to the Moon. Get a clue.
No one has yet been able to describe the difference, in the sky, between contrails and "chemtrails". I have been watching and waiting for one of you to do that. Maybe you will be the first? I seriously doubt it.
What is the common denominator(ask your dad what that means) of your personal beliefs? Paranoid belief in conspirators behind every tree.
You are broad-brushing all the rest of those categories. I have never said anything about them on GLP. Actually, I have never spoken about the Moon missions until this thread. You are making a strawman argument there( again, ask your dad).
Hilarious. I am a lawyer. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
Ahh.. Lawyer. I should have known, but I don't really believe you. The person who has been posting under your nick cannot possibly be a professional adult.
My dad asks me for advice, asshat. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
Sorry for him.
Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
You mean, you SAY that's what those are. You also SAY that all astronomers lie and that we never went to the Moon. That is ridiculous. There is a thread right now asking for an explanation the claimed difference in duration of 'trails. Why don't you post there?
If you want an education let me know. I have a special needs class you can sit in on. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
Nice try, sparky, but you have yet to address the massive logical problems with your suggestion that it is possible for hard copies(or any, really) of astronomical data to have been altered at some point to suit some new and different(and changing) parameters. Care to do so now?
If you are an attorney, I feel truly sorry for your clients. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:41 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Pal, you got some serious issues and you need to get a life. We are all only chatting in here for fun. Get a grip.
You know, sonny, in the mature adult world, we tend to take what we say as a mark of our honesty and integrity.
It's nice that you now admit you are only playing games for fun and dicking with people.
The things that the ones you all are fond of calling "shills" have been demonstrably accurate whether you ever go to the trouble to find out or not. What you post, on the other hand, has been devoid of any mature, logical thinking whatsoever. Why don't you just go and wallow in your little pet, paranoid, conspiracy theories, such as that all astronomers lie, and keep it between you and your pimple-popping buddies?
You are so funny. What, do you think this is Oxford? Or maybe you thought this is NASA science club and that we need to be educated???
LOL
Get a grip on yourself and find a site that will suit your power trip needs of proving how smart you are.
And let the rest of us enjoy this conspiracy site.
Ahh.. so you enjoy the mutual admiration society where everyone spouts silly things(but they couch them in heavy, world-shattering, emotional terms) and no one ever questions anything anybody says. Gee, that's cute. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:43 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Just saying there is no proof means nothing. Watch Loose Change 2nd Ed., then talk to me.
loose change is a good exapmle. the first time you watch it you do think there is something to the 9/11 conspiracy. Then you re watch it with a critial eye; hear from other sources and you realize its all a load of crap.
that is why us debunkers post in these threads.
p.s i've always hate lawyers. nice to know your one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 351208
Was there dramatic music and a lot of heavy, cryptic innuendo and misrepresentation of facts? Yep. Typical. |
| Free Store.
User ID: 144728
6/11/2008 5:43 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I don't recall that. I have faith, however, that you never offered anything lucid. Quoting: Menow 449281
I checked the archives and cannot find that thread
I also could not find the 'Moon is too far North' thread
That went for 30 plus pages.
I see Menow has a lot on his plate now with the Peeps :>
.................... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450017
6/11/2008 5:45 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I work at 11pm - 7 am EST and Im not noticing the sun rising much further north than it should be.. In fact, I watch the sun rise every morning and its always in the same spot.. It is pretty far north though.. But I haven't been a very keen observer of its traditional rising point over the years so I have not much for a comparison.
One thing I noticed is the moon last week was near the sun while it was rising then a few days later I noticed it way west low in the sky about 2 am in the morning.. I thought that was a fast transition from where it was a few days earlier which was in the eastern sky but not really visible till the sun started coming up or about an hour prior to the sun coming up.
Something I've noticed the last few weeks on my shift, which involves sitting in a security shack at the north end of a car plant factory, is; at 3:30 AM a few birds were up and chirping away.... Thats a few hours before sun rise which seems to come sometime between 5:15 and 5:45 EST.. That seemed somewhat odd to me... I've also aboserved a few birds flying just random low flight paths around the shipping yard when Im out on my foot patrols. Just flying like their lost, going in odd circles, damn thing nearly flew into me..Again at around 3:45 am.. Which is an odd time indeed..
The sun obviously sets further north during the summer in the USA. Some newbies notice this for the first tme and think something is going on. However, some people in good faith think it's too far to the north. It appears that way to me too, but I cannot be sure. What I find interesting is that no one can prove it, one way or the other. All anyone does is yell. I see no proof so far. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
The Chichen Itza picture IS absolute, graphic proof. Allow me to point out the blindingly obvious again: Every year, at the equinox, the shadow of the setting sun strikes the pyramid in such a way that it appears to be a snake descending the pyramid. This is because the sun sets in the exact same place on that date every year. IF the sun is out of it's place, this would not happen. So.....either SOMEONE MOVED THE PYRAMID, or, IT NEVER USED TO LINE UP LIKE THAT BUT NOW IT DOES, or, the sun is setting right where it has at least ever since the pyramid was built. Which one could it be?
Note the lack of hostility, simple statement of fact. If you can't comprehend this I cannot help you.
PS: this has less than NOTHING to do with 9/11 or anything else. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450017
6/11/2008 5:46 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
And if you think the PICTURE was doctored, you can go there and see for yourself. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I work at 11pm - 7 am EST and Im not noticing the sun rising much further north than it should be.. In fact, I watch the sun rise every morning and its always in the same spot.. It is pretty far north though.. But I haven't been a very keen observer of its traditional rising point over the years so I have not much for a comparison.
One thing I noticed is the moon last week was near the sun while it was rising then a few days later I noticed it way west low in the sky about 2 am in the morning.. I thought that was a fast transition from where it was a few days earlier which was in the eastern sky but not really visible till the sun started coming up or about an hour prior to the sun coming up.
Something I've noticed the last few weeks on my shift, which involves sitting in a security shack at the north end of a car plant factory, is; at 3:30 AM a few birds were up and chirping away.... Thats a few hours before sun rise which seems to come sometime between 5:15 and 5:45 EST.. That seemed somewhat odd to me... I've also aboserved a few birds flying just random low flight paths around the shipping yard when Im out on my foot patrols. Just flying like their lost, going in odd circles, damn thing nearly flew into me..Again at around 3:45 am.. Which is an odd time indeed..
The sun obviously sets further north during the summer in the USA. Some newbies notice this for the first tme and think something is going on. However, some people in good faith think it's too far to the north. It appears that way to me too, but I cannot be sure. What I find interesting is that no one can prove it, one way or the other. All anyone does is yell. I see no proof so far. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
What people "think" they see is fairly meaningless in areas that are complex and where they have no expertise. People THINK they see the sky every day and that they would know how things move there, but they DON'T! It is an easy area in which to push a hoax and that is EXACTLY what is happening.
We have offered logical reasoning why this claim isn't possible. You ignore it. We ask you what you would accept as proof and you either remain silent or request things that OBVIOUSLY would not provide any solid proof. How dense ARE you? You want "photos" when they are notoriously easy to manipulate?? And you say you are an attorney?? Go to the fucking LIBRARY and look up some stuff in books that were printed DECADES ago. They will give you predictions for things like Lunar eclipses that will take place EXACTLY as predicted that long ago. DO IT, and stop whining for your "proof" on an internet forum. |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 449887
6/11/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
bla, bla, bla Quoting: Menow 449281
get a life, lady. You keep saying I am claiming the earth moved, but I'm not. I am merely asking for proof one way or another so I can then decide. What part of that do you not understand? Take a chill pill. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:54 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Good of you to admit that. I wish others would be that honest.
I said many times I was not sure, you lying ass. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
I wasn't talking about you. Paranoid? Project much? |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 5:56 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I don't recall that. I have faith, however, that you never offered anything lucid.
I checked the archives and cannot find that thread Quoting: Free Store.
Maybe it's because you are wrong. That would be, what, the 150,000th time?
I also could not find the 'Moon is too far North' thread
That went for 30 plus pages.
I see Menow has a lot on his plate now with the Peeps :> Quoting: Free Store. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 449879
6/11/2008 5:57 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
You are so funny. What, do you think this is Oxford? Or maybe you thought this is NASA science club and that we need to be educated???
LOL
Get a grip on yourself and find a site that will suit your power trip needs of proving how smart you are.
And let the rest of us enjoy this conspiracy site.
Ahh.. so you enjoy the mutual admiration society where everyone spouts silly things(but they couch them in heavy, world-shattering, emotional terms) and no one ever questions anything anybody says. Gee, that's cute. Quoting: Menow 449281
No, I didn't say that. In fact, I am always of thinking that a debate, any debate is better when one side defends one point of view and the other the opposite view.
But you take things to a completely new level.
You spend at least 15 hours a day, 5 days a week talking about the same subject over and over again.
Like that movie the Groundhog day.
Your arguments are the same, you say the same things all the time.
Really ma, you are going to go insane in the brain if you are going to keep this up. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 262563
6/11/2008 6:00 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
What I find interesting is that no one can prove it, one way or the other. All anyone does is yell. I see no proof so far. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
Give 5 examples of exactly WHAT you would consider a valid proof. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/11/2008 6:00 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
bla, bla, bla
get a life, lady. You keep saying I am claiming the earth moved, but I'm not. I am merely asking for proof one way or another so I can then decide. What part of that do you not understand? Take a chill pill. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449887
The fact that you think it might have, and demand proof otherwise, and dodge what we offer, and think we are shills for saying it has not, and don't trust astronomers, and think we didn't go the the Moon, and etc, etc, etc, etc, speaks volumes. |
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