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| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 9:27 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I AM AN AMETEUR ASTRONOMER!
Yesterday, I noticed the sun was out of place. No question about it.
I have no pictures, no charts, no equipment.
I do, however, have a brain and my word! Quoting: Schmieder 324203
Let me get this straight... You claim to be an amateur astronomer, but you have no equipment and can't spell "amateur"?
My patio and garden has a portion of space that never sees direct sunlight before the afternoon hours. Quoting: Schmieder 324203
But you admit that you only had ONE previous year to determine that, remember?
The house shades that portion. Yesterday, my entire patio was in direct sunlight in the morning around 9-10am. This morning I went outside to check and it was back where it should be, as far as I can tell. Quoting: Schmieder 324203
You are claiming that the sun's position changed radically IN ONE DAY??? You are a fucking loony toon.
History of my patio does not lie! Quoting: Schmieder 324203
You are simply mistaken. Live with it.
I do not use illegal substances!
I have an IQ of 157!
People can lie to other people, but you can't lie to yourself.
Regardless of what Menow and other 'know-it-alls' say, the Sun wasn't where it belongs June 12th 2008 around 9-10am. Quoting: Schmieder 324203
And then it scooted back to where it belongs? See above. Loony toon.
Menow, you are a very disturbed individual. You must be, to argue every single post with such aggression and insulting nature. Are you paid to spread lies/cover the truth? Yeah, you must be paid by the post. What is it, $0.12 per posting?
Take it for what it is, or don't take it at all. My posting contributes, and does not pollute these forums with instant disagreement and conflict.
Peace! Quoting: Schmieder 324203
I do take it for what it clearly is. An error in observation. |
| DrPostman  
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User ID: 51197
6/12/2008 9:29 PM
 | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
One of the payoffs to reading and posting to threads like
this is that they expand my learning. I take time to do
research on the net over the subject and that continues
to increase my knowledge and understanding. Kind of the
opposite of the folks who post "don't read them!", "they're
shills", or "they're afraid of our truth that we won't
prove!". All they do is react instead of respond on these
types of threads. Reminds me of church folks reacting out
of fear when confronted with something that might contradict
their belief system.
what a hypocrate. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 450521
Note how the fearshill doesn't say HOW I am a hypocrite.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8358
6/12/2008 9:30 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Oh my God!!! The Sun is rising too far to the east. And it rises more to the east each day. I think something major is going on because, guess what, its setting in the west as well. It must be the planet has flipped. I'm getting dizzy, so I've tried walking backwards on my hands, that helps.
I've been watching my garden as well. There's plants that don't get much sun and they don't grow very well, is it the pole shift, the zetas or the wombles. Now my curtains are fading faster on the northern side of the house, I want compensation. It's the NWO illuminati reptilians who are behind this. They're up to no good. I can feel it in my waters. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 9:35 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Just because the pyramid has been there for thousands of years doesn't mean it has a lock on the Earths rotation. And we are talking about a wobble. Which happens during a specific time still to be understood. Obviously I'm not claiming our rotation has been permanently altered. More like a distortion seen in a spinning coin just before it falls. Quoting: Schmieder 324203
Well, that is interesting. Other bunkers are claiming otherwise, that the changes are consistent and predictable to the point that charts and programs have been altered to reflect the changes.
I love it when Woos collide.
Those two claims completely contradict each other. You all should get together and decide what you claim is happening, a random "wobble" or a permanent axis change. Either one is demonstrably false, but you really can't claim both depending on what suits your silly arguments in any given moment. |
| DrPostman
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6/12/2008 9:39 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I have to agree as crazy as it sounds. You'd think we'd see by now photos comparisons of solstices from now and from prior years showing nothing has changed. We've seen some pics but no comparisons, explanation or analysis. If this gets debated every year as claimed, then you'd think someone would have a proof by now. Someone show me then I will put it to rest. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 450650
[link to www.flickr.com]
:bwsick:
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 9:40 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Explain this, I am driving on an Interstate headed DEAD WEST and I can see the sun setting through my passenger window (DUE NORTH).
When someone can explain to me with scientific data how that is normal, then and only then will I listen.
Oh, and I have been driving that same road for 15+ years ... I have NEVER seen that happen before. Quoting: WUN 450863
You have given no information about your location or what road you were driving on. You really don't know what direction you were facing. |
| WUN
User ID: 450863
6/12/2008 9:42 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Menow, Get a clue.
I have been driving the same road for 15 years and I absolutely know which direction I was facing.
Oh, and so does my GPS.
Your attempts to debunk are flat out sad. |
| WUN
User ID: 450863
6/12/2008 9:45 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Explain this, I am driving on an Interstate headed DEAD WEST and I can see the sun setting through my passenger window (DUE NORTH).
When someone can explain to me with scientific data how that is normal, then and only then will I listen.
Oh, and I have been driving that same road for 15+ years ... I have NEVER seen that happen before.
Easily explained. It is a common mistake for people to
assume that a road is either straight in one compass
direction like West, when even on a "westbound" interstate
you could be headed North or South. Quoting: DrPostman
Not the case, my GPS read dead West and the road is strictly East / West. Sure, there are curves but nothing that would alter the course of the Sun.
I mean, Jesus Christ, how about this ... when I got home I looked toward the nearby elementary school that the sun has set behind my entire freaking life, guess what ... no Sun.
Where was it, Due NNW.
Please don't tell me that I don't know my basic compass points. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 9:46 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Menow, Get a clue.
I have been driving the same road for 15 years and I absolutely know which direction I was facing.
Oh, and so does my GPS.
Your attempts to debunk are flat out sad. Quoting: WUN 450863
Then tell us at what mile marker on which interstate at what time.
Ohh.. and then you can explain how think you have discovered something that the world's astronomers have missed. |
| Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
6/12/2008 9:49 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I am a REAL amateur astronomer
I have equipment.
I have charts.
I have pictures.
I also belong to my local astronomy club who hold observations at least twice a month. Once during the new moon and once for "sidewalk" astronomy for observing the Sun.
Not one member of our club has noticed nor commented on the Sun being out of position.
The chair I sit in in the evenings is next to a west facing window. At this time of year the Sun starts to shine through the window directly onto my chair. It will continue to do this until late fall. I've lived in this house for 4 years and this has happened every year.
[link to www.youtube.com] |
| DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
6/12/2008 9:50 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
And what evidence do you have to so surely prove this theory wrong?
Id like to hear it.
For Nibiru -
1. Climate change on earth
2. More frequent natural disasters
3. Climate change on planets other than earth.
4. Sneaky - Type in Nibiru into the NASA search engine and an eplanation into 'Planet X' comes up. Not direct evidence, but maybe a sneaky clue?
5. The amazing attention the Planet x theory is getting, not only on GLP where we have so many do gooders who despise fear mongering, but everywhere the subject is mentioned on the internet.
give me your 'Against' arguemnts. Thanks, im sure you will have plenty seen as your so hung up and caring about the whole subject. Quoting: Freeman 450670
None of your points explain how a large planet playing hide
and go seek in our inner solar system could be the cause, while
parsimony says Global Warming makes more sense. Plus the
fact that we have only been observing weather on other
planets for less than half a century.
Amazing attention? Go up to ten people on the street and
I bet NONE of them will tell you that they know anything
about a "Planet X".
Well I do not have any scientific data or charts etc....but the sun sure looks out of place to me, something is just not the usual norm, and it doesn't take a scientist to notice that ! Quoting: SkyWatcher
There is an invisible pink unicorn that follows you around.
I can sense it. Now, how does that make any more sense
than what you just said. I have posted links to things like
the Manhattan Solstice which prove that the Sun is right
where it's supposed to be. No one so far has come up with
any way to dismiss an image of an event that at least tens
of thousands witness every May 28/29th in NYC. Here it is
again:
[link to www.flickr.com]
All you have to do is go outside and look up .....the sun is not as it should be ! Quoting: SkyWatcher
Why do you think it's intelligent to stare at the Sun?
Why not go to any of the MANY ancient sites that mark the
Solstice in less than 2 weeks and see for yourself? There
will be many thousands who do? Why not join them? Do you
fear having your assumptions challenged?
People can lie to other people, but you can't lie to yourself. Quoting: Schmieder 324203
That's got to be one of the biggest lies I have ever seen.
You don't know many people if you believe that, and you
obviously believe your own lies.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
6/12/2008 9:52 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Not the case, my GPS read dead West and the road is strictly East / West. Sure, there are curves but nothing that would alter the course of the Sun.
I mean, Jesus Christ, how about this ... when I got home I looked toward the nearby elementary school that the sun has set behind my entire freaking life, guess what ... no Sun.
Where was it, Due NNW.
Please don't tell me that I don't know my basic compass points. Quoting: WUN 450863
No, but you don't seem to understand that the Sun doesn't
ALWAYS set directly in the West, especially this time of year.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 9:53 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Explain this, I am driving on an Interstate headed DEAD WEST and I can see the sun setting through my passenger window (DUE NORTH).
When someone can explain to me with scientific data how that is normal, then and only then will I listen.
Oh, and I have been driving that same road for 15+ years ... I have NEVER seen that happen before.
Easily explained. It is a common mistake for people to
assume that a road is either straight in one compass
direction like West, when even on a "westbound" interstate
you could be headed North or South.
Not the case, my GPS read dead West Quoting: WUN 450863
Your GPS reads directions in degrees?
and the road is strictly East / West. Sure, there are curves but nothing that would alter the course of the Sun. Quoting: WUN 450863
Huh? Of course small curves in the road would affect your observation.
I mean, Jesus Christ, how about this ... when I got home I looked toward the nearby elementary school that the sun has set behind my entire freaking life, guess what ... no Sun. Quoting: WUN 450863
The Sun doesn't set in the same place all the time, so you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Where was it, Due NNW. Quoting: WUN 450863
"Due"? You know, by memory, exact directions?
Please don't tell me that I don't know my basic compass points. Quoting: WUN 450863
You are claiming to know EXACT ones, not "basic" ones. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450863
6/12/2008 9:54 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Menow, Get a clue.
I have been driving the same road for 15 years and I absolutely know which direction I was facing.
Oh, and so does my GPS.
Your attempts to debunk are flat out sad.
Then tell us at what mile marker on which interstate at what time.
Ohh.. and then you can explain how think you have discovered something that the world's astronomers have missed. Quoting: Menow 449281
No thanks, I have no need for shills to try to track me.
I will say that I called people I know in different states and they all commented that it looked strange.
I am NOT an astronomer, I just made an observation about what I saw and you are doing your best to be a shill.
So have at it ... Shill. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450861
6/12/2008 9:56 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
location
Arizona desert
1986, west of Phoenix
West of White Tank mountains.
Neighbor & I sat on his porch watching sunrise.
He pointed out the peak the sun was rising just left of and noted
"I've seen sunrises from this spot of dozens of years.
It's never been left/north of that peak before.
Wobble!!!
Earth's textbook tilt is an average!
Did I demand the old man call Flagstaff's Lowell Observatory and talk to astronomers?
Nah!
They mapped canals on Mars in years past.
Professional just means you get paid for it.
Doesn't mean you are smarter or more observant than anyone else.
My college buddies often exhibited "blinders educated onto their viewpoint" by the narrow confines of Professors' entrenched views being swallowed by students like baby chicks swallow worms.
Simply stated.
If you live north of the Tropic of Cancer, and the sun ever shines on the north side of your wall.
The earth is tilted beyond the norm.
Similarly if you live south of the Tropic of Capricorn and the sun ever shines on the south side of a wall, the earth is tilted beyond the norm. Read below/ visit link etc.etc.etc.
>"Britannica:
latitudes approximately 23°27′ N and 23°27′ S of the terrestrial Equator, respectively. These latitudes correspond to the northernmost and southernmost declinations of the Sun’s ecliptic to the celestial equator. At the summer solstice (in the Northern Hemisphere), around June 21, the Sun attains its greatest declination north and is directly over the Tropic of Cancer. At that time the Sun appears in the constellation Gemini, but much earlier in history, it lay in the constellation Cancer, thereby resulting in the designation Tropic of Cancer. Similarly, at the winter solstice (Northern Hemisphere), around December 21, the Sun is directly over the Tropic of Capricorn"<
[link to www.britannica.com]
Theory is what is in the textbooks and reference books.
Reality is what you observe with your own eyes. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450863
6/12/2008 9:59 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Explain this, I am driving on an Interstate headed DEAD WEST and I can see the sun setting through my passenger window (DUE NORTH).
When someone can explain to me with scientific data how that is normal, then and only then will I listen.
Oh, and I have been driving that same road for 15+ years ... I have NEVER seen that happen before.
Easily explained. It is a common mistake for people to
assume that a road is either straight in one compass
direction like West, when even on a "westbound" interstate
you could be headed North or South.
Not the case, my GPS read dead West
Your GPS reads directions in degrees?
and the road is strictly East / West. Sure, there are curves but nothing that would alter the course of the Sun.
Huh? Of course small curves in the road would affect your observation.
I mean, Jesus Christ, how about this ... when I got home I looked toward the nearby elementary school that the sun has set behind my entire freaking life, guess what ... no Sun.
The Sun doesn't set in the same place all the time, so you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Where was it, Due NNW.
"Due"? You know, by memory, exact directions?
Please don't tell me that I don't know my basic compass points.
You are claiming to know EXACT ones, not "basic" ones. Quoting: Menow 449281
Your a real winner, aren't you?
I know that curves in a road will affect my observation. HOWEVER, the location of the sun ... from where I was observing it ... was NNW, both in my car and when I got home.
Furthermore, I never "Claimed" to know "Exact" ones ... you can try to put words in my mouth all you want, I know your game and your attempts are pathetic.
Lastly, as I stated earlier, I am making no claims ... simply sharing an observation.
You are coming at me pretty hard for me being a person who is just making an observation, no? I claim no scientific data. I claim no expertise. I am simply sharing an observation.
I will waste no more time on you ... life is too short. |
| DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
6/12/2008 10:00 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
No thanks, I have no need for shills to try to track me.
I will say that I called people I know in different states and they all commented that it looked strange.
I am NOT an astronomer, I just made an observation about what I saw and you are doing your best to be a shill.
So have at it ... Shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
You do realize that mods can see IP addresses, right? And why
would stating what interstate you were on allow anyone to
track you?
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 10:01 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Menow, Get a clue.
I have been driving the same road for 15 years and I absolutely know which direction I was facing.
Oh, and so does my GPS.
Your attempts to debunk are flat out sad.
Then tell us at what mile marker on which interstate at what time.
Ohh.. and then you can explain how think you have discovered something that the world's astronomers have missed.
No thanks, I have no need for shills to try to track me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
Paranoid. It is a common trait with these people. Also a dodge of information that might confirm you observation. Probably means you are just making it up.
I will say that I called people I know in different states and they all commented that it looked strange. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
What does "looked strange" mean?
I am NOT an astronomer, I just made an observation about what I saw and you are doing your best to be a shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
No, I am challenging your REAAAAALLLLYYYYY unlikely claim.
So have at it ... Shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
Why did you dodge this? It can't expose your location:
Ohh.. and then you can explain how think you have discovered something that the world's astronomers have missed. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 10:03 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
location
Arizona desert
1986, west of Phoenix
West of White Tank mountains.
Neighbor & I sat on his porch watching sunrise.
He pointed out the peak the sun was rising just left of and noted
"I've seen sunrises from this spot of dozens of years.
It's never been left/north of that peak before.
Wobble!!!
Earth's textbook tilt is an average! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450861
Then explain how long-exposure astro photography is possible. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 10:13 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Explain this, I am driving on an Interstate headed DEAD WEST and I can see the sun setting through my passenger window (DUE NORTH).
When someone can explain to me with scientific data how that is normal, then and only then will I listen.
Oh, and I have been driving that same road for 15+ years ... I have NEVER seen that happen before.
Easily explained. It is a common mistake for people to
assume that a road is either straight in one compass
direction like West, when even on a "westbound" interstate
you could be headed North or South.
Not the case, my GPS read dead West
Your GPS reads directions in degrees?
and the road is strictly East / West. Sure, there are curves but nothing that would alter the course of the Sun.
Huh? Of course small curves in the road would affect your observation.
I mean, Jesus Christ, how about this ... when I got home I looked toward the nearby elementary school that the sun has set behind my entire freaking life, guess what ... no Sun.
The Sun doesn't set in the same place all the time, so you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Where was it, Due NNW.
"Due"? You know, by memory, exact directions?
Please don't tell me that I don't know my basic compass points.
You are claiming to know EXACT ones, not "basic" ones.
Your a real winner, aren't you?
I know that curves in a road will affect my observation. HOWEVER, the location of the sun ... from where I was observing it ... was NNW, both in my car and when I got home. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
Uhh... you said it was directly west from your car.
Furthermore, I never "Claimed" to know "Exact" ones ... you can try to put words in my mouth all you want, I know your game and your attempts are pathetic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
You said "DUE". That means exact.
Lastly, as I stated earlier, I am making no claims ... simply sharing an observation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
You are claiming that the Sun is not where it belongs. Now how likely is that, really?
You are coming at me pretty hard for me being a person who is just making an observation, no? I claim no scientific data. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
The direction of the Sun is scientific data. You said your GPS confirmed the exact direction. Unless you now admit you were guessing. Is that what you are saying now?
I ask again: Your GPS reads directions in degrees? You either claim to know exact directions, which is indeed scientific data, or you are guessing. Which is it?
I claim no expertise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
You certainly did. You claimed to have long experience that renders your observation infallible.
I am simply sharing an observation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
No, you are making an outrageous claim and asserting that you can't be wrong.
I will waste no more time on you ... life is too short. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450863
You just want people to agree with you that you discovered something that all astronomers have missed? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448220
6/12/2008 10:16 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I built a sundial in the backyard when I was 15. That was 42 years ago, it is still there and still as accurate as ever. Maybe the Zetas snuck into my back yard and messed with the sundial to make me think things are normal, huh? Did you know that there are pyramids and markers built thousands of years ago that still accurately mark things like solstices, equinoxes and transits of certain planets and stars on the local zenith? This would be impossible if what the OP and the Zeta brain dead cult claims. |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 10:21 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Corection. You said it was directly NORTH from your car. Then you said it was NNW from both car and home.
"Explain this, I am driving on an Interstate headed DEAD WEST and I can see the sun setting through my passenger window (DUE NORTH)."
Try and get your fake facts straight next time. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357364
6/12/2008 10:26 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Corection. You said it was directly NORTH from your car. Then you said it was NNW from both car and home.
"Explain this, I am driving on an Interstate headed DEAD WEST and I can see the sun setting through my passenger window (DUE NORTH)."
Try and get your fake facts straight next time. Quoting: Menow 449281
Still at it, eh Menow? |
| Dee
User ID: 450904
6/12/2008 10:33 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Menow I thought you were taking a break... |
| Menow
User ID: 449281
6/12/2008 10:34 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
These people just can't seem to understand how observation works. They start out claiming to know something precisely, but when their accuracy is challenged they get pissy. The claimed accuracy of this last guy was the only thing that would have made his observation valid. He ended up denying his own accuracy. It's nuts!
Truth is, none of these people have a clue what it takes to make an accurate observation. They try to be scientific, and fail, while they decry science as worthless. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448220
6/12/2008 10:52 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Last winter when we had people posting that the sun was too far south, someone predicted that as summer approached there would be people noticing the sun too far north. Gee, either that AC is a gifted psychic, or there is a clue in there about how the sun behaves in our skies over the course of a solar year. (hint) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450861
6/12/2008 10:53 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
These people just can't seem to understand how observation works. They start out claiming to know something precisely, but when their accuracy is challenged they get pissy. The claimed accuracy of this last guy was the only thing that would have made his observation valid. He ended up denying his own accuracy. It's nuts!
Truth is, none of these people have a clue what it takes to make an accurate observation. They try to be scientific, and fail, while they decry science as worthless. Quoting: Menow 449281
Science for centuries denied that rocks could fall from the sky
"meteor"
True science takes all evidence into account and tries to set up experiments to get repeatable results.
One experiment vs another means nothing. The body of knowledge is what matters.
Results that disprove a theory are just as successful as experiments that prove a theory.
Science should have no axe to grind.
Disclaimer: I am NOT an astronomer
My sole degree is in Mechanical Engineering |
| Geogal
User ID: 373387
6/12/2008 10:55 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
WE WILL SOON KNOW IF THE SUN REALLY MOVES NORTH.
BUT ALL SIGNS SHOW EVERYTHING IS NORMAL.
you may be right. im just asking. i think the argument is the earth tilt changed, not that the sun moved.
OK... I have to ask...
why do you think the earths tilt has changed? THink it happened before or it can just suddenly happen? How do you think the planet would suddenly change it's rotation axis without a very large event or amount of energy forcing it? What do you think that large amount of energy would have done to all life on the planet? |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 450650
6/12/2008 10:56 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
No, but you don't seem to understand that the Sun doesn't
ALWAYS set directly in the West, especially this time of year. Quoting: DrPostman
Most everyone knows that. People are saying it's too far north taking that into consideration. |
| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 450650
6/12/2008 10:58 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Let me get this straight... You claim to be an amateur astronomer, but you have no equipment and can't spell "amateur"? Quoting: Menow 449281
a grammer nazi, of course. what a total prick. |
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