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I've been through the desert on a thread with no name

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Free Store
User ID: 158594
6/13/2008 1:15 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

OK, I will double check in a few hours. We are heading into some clearing I hope


Jupiter is never as big as Venus and UFO'S are not a Planet shape that I know of


Where is Venus tonight? chill I wont bite :>
DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 450650
6/13/2008 1:17 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

don't follow the "electrical universe" discussion. Not interested.


Not surprised.

not my speciality, and what does it have to do with the thread topic? Or are you jsut wanting to deviate? Why should I? Why should anyone or everyone follow your bar for others when you can't reach it yourself?

And yet you can't or won't answer any of my other questions, nor will you comment upon things I've stated that do not follow your precise prejudices against science... if you don't answer questions to help define what you're asking, you can't get info handed to you on a platter that will satisfy.

so, I'm not surprised, either. You do all you can to insult and annoy others without explaining yourself properly. You claim breath of fresh air when someone doesn't attack you with an insult, yet have them very handy and constant. Sigh... a telling thing about the state of the human mental state, I guess. Or, maybe jsut more telling about who you are and what you're trying to accomplish here? Don't know the answer to this really matters much to anything.... just more a curiosity.
 Quoting: Geogal 373387

i could not have made my position any more clearer in here. If you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen. This is a meaningless forum. You guys take it all to seriously while ingnoring the important stuff, like 9/11 truth, chemtrails, the nazis in DC, etc. Do an audit.
Menow
User ID: 449281
6/13/2008 1:18 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

American Girl, fine job of showing us how many folks get upset if you say the sun is off the mark. Never knew it would draw such a crowd, holy cow, all I know is I gotta move my camailia (sp) bush that is now getting full sun,although it hasn't since I planted it, years ago, don't have charts or graphs, but do know I wouldn't have planted such an expensive bush in full sun, as any gardener knows.


Tell me this. What object or objects USED to block the Sun from hitting it and where are they now?


Did he really ask this question? I am trying to picture what this guy looks like. lol.


But you neglect to explain the alleged problem with the question.

actually negligence requires a duty first and I dont have a duty to point out your stupidity in detail.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 450650


In other words you were just spewing and had no actual point.
DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 450650
6/13/2008 1:19 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

I am a REAL amateur astronomer

I have equipment.

I have charts.

I have pictures.

I also belong to my local astronomy club who hold observations at least twice a month. Once during the new moon and once for "sidewalk" astronomy for observing the Sun.

Not one member of our club has noticed nor commented on the Sun being out of position.

The chair I sit in in the evenings is next to a west facing window. At this time of year the Sun starts to shine through the window directly onto my chair. It will continue to do this until late fall. I've lived in this house for 4 years and this has happened every year.

ok, this is an example of evidence i am looking for. And no swearing too. Do you think the Earth could wobble briefly and your club not notice?



Yeah, THAT'S IT! It wobbles when no astronomer in the world is LOOKING!

BWWWWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAAA.A.AAAA.A.AA.A..A......!!

Meow, you need to join my fan club. Meow, what are your qualifications or is that a secret?



Let's see... I have the sense to know that Earth could not be wobbling while astronomers are not looking. That seems well beyond your qualifications.

Oh.. I also don't think that everything, everywhere is a lie.
 Quoting: Menow 449281

i guess that means you have no profession nor qualifications, which is OK. Just checking.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
6/13/2008 1:23 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

i could not have made my position any more clearer in here. If you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen. This is a meaningless forum. You guys take it all to seriously while ingnoring the important stuff, like 9/11 truth, chemtrails, the nazis in DC, etc. Do an audit.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 450650

dutycalls
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 450650
6/13/2008 1:24 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

American Girl, fine job of showing us how many folks get upset if you say the sun is off the mark. Never knew it would draw such a crowd, holy cow, all I know is I gotta move my camailia (sp) bush that is now getting full sun,although it hasn't since I planted it, years ago, don't have charts or graphs, but do know I wouldn't have planted such an expensive bush in full sun, as any gardener knows.


Tell me this. What object or objects USED to block the Sun from hitting it and where are they now?


Did he really ask this question? I am trying to picture what this guy looks like. lol.


But you neglect to explain the alleged problem with the question.

actually negligence requires a duty first and I dont have a duty to point out your stupidity in detail.


In other words you were just spewing and had no actual point.
 Quoting: Menow 449281

I'll let you sweat it out.
DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 450650
6/13/2008 1:26 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

i could not have made my position any more clearer in here. If you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen. This is a meaningless forum. You guys take it all to seriously while ingnoring the important stuff, like 9/11 truth, chemtrails, the nazis in DC, etc. Do an audit.

:dutycalls:
 Quoting: Geogal

ok that's funny
Geogal
User ID: 373387
6/13/2008 1:29 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

i could not have made my position any more clearer in here. If you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen. This is a meaningless forum. You guys take it all to seriously while ingnoring the important stuff, like 9/11 truth, chemtrails, the nazis in DC, etc. Do an audit.

dutycalls

ok that's funny
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 450650

A little insight into my sense of humor. THis whole thread is funny to me...


lizardbung
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Menow
User ID: 449281
6/13/2008 1:30 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

I am a REAL amateur astronomer

I have equipment.

I have charts.

I have pictures.

I also belong to my local astronomy club who hold observations at least twice a month. Once during the new moon and once for "sidewalk" astronomy for observing the Sun.

Not one member of our club has noticed nor commented on the Sun being out of position.

The chair I sit in in the evenings is next to a west facing window. At this time of year the Sun starts to shine through the window directly onto my chair. It will continue to do this until late fall. I've lived in this house for 4 years and this has happened every year.

ok, this is an example of evidence i am looking for. And no swearing too. Do you think the Earth could wobble briefly and your club not notice?



Yeah, THAT'S IT! It wobbles when no astronomer in the world is LOOKING!

BWWWWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAAA.A.AAAA.A.AA.A..A......!!

Meow, you need to join my fan club. Meow, what are your qualifications or is that a secret?



Let's see... I have the sense to know that Earth could not be wobbling while astronomers are not looking. That seems well beyond your qualifications.

Oh.. I also don't think that everything, everywhere is a lie.

i guess that means you have no profession nor qualifications, which is OK. Just checking.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 450650


It means no such thing. I don't intend to play the "I'm a _____" game with you. You seem unqualified to grasp common sense things like the above, and are unwilling to answer questions or follow a discussion to a logical conclusion. Those are qualifications that can be accurately shown here, not the "I'm a lawyer" stuff. You seem unwilling to believe anything anyone says here, so why would you ask anyway, other than to, as you demonstrated, launch another insult?

You pretend to now be demurely asking for simple information when we all know you have been obstinate and obtuse throughout this whole thread. Makes one wonder if there is more than one person using your nick and ID.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
6/13/2008 1:31 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

night all. continue this in the morning.

solddog
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Menow
User ID: 449281
6/13/2008 1:32 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Out
Free Store
User ID: 158594
6/13/2008 1:35 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Better yet I saw whatever big I saw rising in the south east a week ago there so.


I don't think the Venus conjuct the Sun was then :>
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448220
6/13/2008 1:48 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Get an education Free Store. Venus is invisible approximately 45 days before and after the superior conjunction. It is not visible now. Wait for it to rise in the west at dusk in a month or so.
Free Store
User ID: 158594
6/13/2008 1:53 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Added: I made a mental note of the time I saw what I saw and it was 1:30.am Pacific. Does that sound close to where Venus conjuncts the early morning Sun?


Astronomers are up all night..I think *.*
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448220
6/13/2008 1:57 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

You don't even know what a conjunction is. It happens twice in a 584 day cycle. That means it is really close to the sun as seen from earth. When it is too close to the sun, we can't see it. It is really simple stuff.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 324211
6/13/2008 1:57 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

SAY NO TO DRUGS!
Free Store
User ID: 158594
6/13/2008 2:01 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

In the West I will be looking for it..I remember a discussion last fall,


Now about what I saw and it was not a full mini moon, A mystery..hmmm <>
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448220
6/13/2008 2:04 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Not a mystery. It is Jupiter. Look it up and you will see. Geez you are dense.
Free Store
User ID: 158594
6/13/2008 2:06 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Give me a break, It was as large as Venus looks from here
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448220
6/13/2008 2:09 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

You are really stupid. It is Jupiter. Why does it look so big? I don't have the energy to waste trying to explain it in terms you will understand. Did you look it up to see if I am just pulling your leg? I doubt it.
Free Store
User ID: 158594
6/13/2008 2:13 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Try not to glow too bright, astronomers can't see well after.


Sure, I will look it up and take the binoculars out tonight and view, fun fun fun...
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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User ID: 51197
6/13/2008 7:15 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

DrPostman offered:
[link to www.flickr.com]

your photos do not prove that the earth could not have been out of position briefly.

Please explain to me, if you will, who are mods and what do you do and how are you selected and do have have a financial stake in the website?
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 450650



And there you have it folks. A series of images taken over
many years is offered, and the bar gets set to a different
position where now the claim is that the Sun is out of place
"briefly". The request was satisfied and what does this troll
do but question my motives and credibility.

I don't get paid a dime to post here or be a mod. Sux2BU, troll.
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Alzaya
User ID: 429245
6/13/2008 7:43 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

I talked to my neighbor last night, who is a landscaper by trade. He is not a Woo Woo! He said yes, the sun is different. He said he used to know where to plant things because he knew where the Sun would be but now,...... he just shrugged his shoulders.
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DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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6/13/2008 7:48 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Someone can offer thousands of reports from casual observers
that the Sun isn't where it should be but that will not matter
come this Summer Solstice when millions of people can see for
themselves how wrong those reports are.

If those reports are correct then why do Sundials continue
to work all over the world, many of them very ancient. And
don't try to tell me that the Sun behaves differently at
different locations. We all have the same Sun shinning down
on this same planet and it would be physically impossible
for the Sun to dance around and then go right back to where
it is, or the planet, for that matter.
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be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 231548
6/13/2008 7:57 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

i could not have made my position any more clearer in here. If you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen. This is a meaningless forum. You guys take it all to seriously while ingnoring the important stuff, like 9/11 truth, chemtrails, the nazis in DC, etc. Do an audit.

:dutycalls:
 Quoting: Geogal




Oh my "God"... thank you for this.

I just couldn't stop laughing.

laugh
Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/13/2008 8:17 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Yeah, it sounds crazy alright. And I'm sorry if I made any insulting comments earlier. I'm not posting here to pick a fight. I do not wish to argue. But, I can not lie to myself. I seen what I saw, clear as day.

Bottom line, the sun is rising 15-20 degrees off to the north. It seems to correct itself before noon.

I noticed it June 12th 2008 and now this morning it is out again. I am marking the shadow lines through out the day today.

Go outside and look now, it is out of place as I type.



I welcome any discussion regarding this, either side. But please keep your childish insults to yourselves. I do not wish to be dragged into another crap fight. I too, will say nasty things when provoked and I do not want that kind of stuff.

Be a human and act responsibly towards each other, or say nothing at all, please.

Live, Love and be happy, Peace!
Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/13/2008 8:24 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

CORRECTION:
I noticed it June 11th 2008 and now this morning it is out again. I am marking the shadow lines through out the day today.
 Quoting: Schmieder 324203
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318980
6/13/2008 8:27 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

Yeah, it sounds crazy alright. And I'm sorry if I made any insulting comments earlier. I'm not posting here to pick a fight. I do not wish to argue. But, I can not lie to myself. I seen what I saw, clear as day.

Bottom line, the sun is rising 15-20 degrees off to the north. It seems to correct itself before noon.

I noticed it June 12th 2008 and now this morning it is out again. I am marking the shadow lines through out the day today.

Go outside and look now, it is out of place as I type.



I welcome any discussion regarding this, either side. But please keep your childish insults to yourselves. I do not wish to be dragged into another crap fight. I too, will say nasty things when provoked and I do not want that kind of stuff.

Be a human and act responsibly towards each other, or say nothing at all, please.

Live, Love and be happy, Peace!
 Quoting: Schmieder 324203



It is 23 miunts past local noon in my location right now and the sun is at 190 degrees azimuth exactly where it should be.

This make me distrust the accuracy of your observations
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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6/13/2008 8:32 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

I wonder if the people who are so adamant about the location
of the Sun being "off" or "wrong" are willing to observe the
Summer Solstice and admit that they are wrong when it takes
place right on schedule?

I would really like to know how the Sun, or the planet Earth
can move so quickly out of position and then snap right back
but only in a few locations for a few observers, while the
rest of the planet sees no change?
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Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/13/2008 8:42 AM
Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no nameQuote

I don't run and hide, I will be here!

I am confident in my personal observations.
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