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| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 451308
6/13/2008 5:19 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Whether all is well or the earth's tilt has changed or whatever, it's a facinating discussion. It's too bad some people in here have to act like Nazis about it. They ruin the fun of learning and debate.
This isn't debate, and no one is learning anything, except how obtuse some nitwits can be.
I can't believe this is going on after this much time. You guys should meet at the OK Corral and shoot it out.
Like I said, this place is full of nazi asshats.
No, it's a place full of idiots who don't have the first clue about the normal motions of the sun around the equinox's.
So what? Everyone cant be as smart as you, asshat.
Those who can't should shut the fuck up! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 451379
You must have a small penis. |
| Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/13/2008 6:49 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Whether all is well or the earth's tilt has changed or whatever, it's a facinating discussion. It's too bad some people in here have to act like Nazis about it. They ruin the fun of learning and debate.
This isn't debate, and no one is learning anything, except how obtuse some nitwits can be.
I can't believe this is going on after this much time. You guys should meet at the OK Corral and shoot it out.
Like I said, this place is full of nazi asshats.
No, it's a place full of idiots who don't have the first clue about the normal motions of the sun around the equinox's.
So what? Everyone cant be as smart as you, asshat.
Those who can't should shut the fuck up! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 451379
You are nothing more then an individual who wishes to silence everything that you do not agree with. If the world had operated on a basis like your rational, we would all be in the dark ages.
Your ancestors were probably the ones who executed those who said the earth orbits around the sun, or how the earth is round.
Really, all insults aside...can you admit it is possible we a correct? I know what I saw, I know I am right and because I KNOW I am right, I know you are wrong. Its that simple. But I'm not asking or commanding you to silence yourself or disappear.
Why don't you go outside and measure the suns angles! I know you haven't, because if you did you would agree with what many of us had stated already. That goes for every de-bunker here. I am 99.9999% sure the sun is out of place!!!!!!!!! and I say that cause I don't believe in 100%.
Stick around cause later I'm going to post a picture of my measurements etched in concrete. You will see the horizontal positioning of the sun through out the day along with markings showing the geographic north south east west.
Stay tuned and get ready to kiss some ass buddy. |
| Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/13/2008 6:52 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Darkstarcrashes, I hope I haven't insulted you in any way through out this forum. If I had, I am sorry. I see you have a head on your shoulders. Take care. |
| DrPostman  
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User ID: 51197
6/13/2008 7:31 PM
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Please explain the mechanism involved in the Sun being
temporarily out of place and then returned back so that
when the Summer Solstice happens ancient sites all over
this planet will mark it on schedule like they do every
year.
The Sun is the same for everyone on this Planet. I do
not see how it could be out of place for one person
in one location but just fine for the rest of the world.
Sundials continue to work, even those that have been
around for centuries. These sundials are located
all over the planet. If you could explain to me how
they could possibly be off for just a few people during
a short period of time it would be helpful.
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| DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
6/13/2008 7:36 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
lol, I have no problem with anothers different views. I do have an issue with those other people claiming 100% knowledge. I only post in regards to my own observations, and then I'm called a liar, basically.
I am open for discussion regarding whatever, but I won't tolerate being called a liar, ever! Quoting: Schmieder 324203
There is a difference between someone saying that you are
mistaken and calling you a liar. Ignore the name callers
and focus on the few of us that are being reasonable.
I have offered ample evidence that the Sun is behaving
normally for people in multiple locations with photographic
evidence from ancient and modern sites. I have yet to see
anyone prove otherwise.
BTW, millions of religious practitioners keep track of the
movements of the Sun through the sky, and none of them have
raised an alarm. Why do you think that is? When it comes
to religion it's hard to suppress alarm.
"It's kinda like creating a carpool lane on the internet, except instead of
high-occupancy vehicles, only rich assholes will be able to drive on it"
-- Jon Stewart on what the telecoms would prefer instead of Net Neutrality.
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| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 451308
6/13/2008 7:40 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Darkstarcrashes, I hope I haven't insulted you in any way through out this forum. If I had, I am sorry. I see you have a head on your shoulders. Take care. Quoting: Schmieder 324203
Don't worry, buddy, you haven't. I'm glad you are on our team! Peace! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318980
6/13/2008 9:40 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Why don't you go outside and measure the suns angles! I know you haven't, because if you did you would agree with what many of us had stated already. That goes for every de-bunker here. I am 99.9999% sure the sun is out of place!!!!!!!!! and I say that cause I don't believe in 100%. Quoting: Schmieder 324203
Of course you are ignoring the FACT that I went outside and measured the sun's angles (Using a compass and spirit level rather than your Cigarette, Boots and dodgy sense of time method), and found that in fact the Sun was exactly where it should be within 15 mins of your original post.
Odd that you have forgotten so quickly..... and are now claiming that those who are saying your ‘measurements’ are wrong have not made their own. Do you suffer from a highly selective memory? |
| Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
6/13/2008 9:41 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I am a REAL amateur astronomer
I have equipment.
I have charts.
I have pictures.
I also belong to my local astronomy club who hold observations at least twice a month. Once during the new moon and once for "sidewalk" astronomy for observing the Sun.
Not one member of our club has noticed nor commented on the Sun being out of position.
The chair I sit in in the evenings is next to a west facing window. At this time of year the Sun starts to shine through the window directly onto my chair. It will continue to do this until late fall. I've lived in this house for 4 years and this has happened every year.
ok, this is an example of evidence i am looking for. And no swearing too. Do you think the Earth could wobble briefly and your club not notice? Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 450650
In a word, No. If the Earth were to "wobble", especially to the extreme that you people claim, there would be instant and catastrophic effects to us and the Earth's surface.
Now, why are you looking for this type of evidence? What I provided is nothing more than "I said so". There is no way for you to verify my claim. On the other hand, the photos presented in this thread are verifiable yet you dismiss them. Why??
[link to www.youtube.com] |
| Turtles Know
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User ID: 406673
6/13/2008 10:44 PM
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| DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 451468
6/14/2008 12:21 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I am a REAL amateur astronomer
I have equipment.
I have charts.
I have pictures.
I also belong to my local astronomy club who hold observations at least twice a month. Once during the new moon and once for "sidewalk" astronomy for observing the Sun.
Not one member of our club has noticed nor commented on the Sun being out of position.
The chair I sit in in the evenings is next to a west facing window. At this time of year the Sun starts to shine through the window directly onto my chair. It will continue to do this until late fall. I've lived in this house for 4 years and this has happened every year.
ok, this is an example of evidence i am looking for. And no swearing too. Do you think the Earth could wobble briefly and your club not notice?
In a word, No. If the Earth were to "wobble", especially to the extreme that you people claim, there would be instant and catastrophic effects to us and the Earth's surface.
Now, why are you looking for this type of evidence? What I provided is nothing more than "I said so". There is no way for you to verify my claim. On the other hand, the photos presented in this thread are verifiable yet you dismiss them. Why?? Quoting: Nighthawk
Obvious you could be lying, but I believe you. I find your claim that your club has not noticed helps convince me, especially after thinking it over. Those people would not be motived to keep that a secret. Paid astronomer would. You sounded more credible then the rest of these idiots. I could not easily intrepret the photos linked with spending hours at it. The years where not obvious. The camera angles where not consistant. I did not know I was supposed to be looking at a snake, e.g. I am not familiar with the structures or how they may line up or the streets in NYC, etc. All I ever asked for a some evidence I could find sufficent. Credibility is everything. You seem credible. |
| Free Store
User ID: 154768
6/14/2008 1:44 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
What I still want to know is how an astronomy club can measure the Earth's wobble without the use of a Gov web site or internet |
| Free Store
User ID: 154768
6/14/2008 1:57 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Q-ok, this is an example of evidence i am looking for. And no swearing too. Do you think the Earth could wobble briefly and your club not notice?
A-In a word, No. If the Earth were to "wobble", especially to the extreme that you people claim, there would be instant and catastrophic effects to us and the Earth's surface.
The answer is right here from the astronomer***
***Floods , Tornadoes, Earthquakes, Wildfires Volcanoes hmmm no Hurricanes to speak of yr no. 2 ..Pain pain pain, the bar seems to be raised on a daily bases |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346985
6/14/2008 3:11 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I am a REAL amateur astronomer
I have equipment.
I have charts.
I have pictures.
I also belong to my local astronomy club who hold observations at least twice a month. Once during the new moon and once for "sidewalk" astronomy for observing the Sun.
Not one member of our club has noticed nor commented on the Sun being out of position.
The chair I sit in in the evenings is next to a west facing window. At this time of year the Sun starts to shine through the window directly onto my chair. It will continue to do this until late fall. I've lived in this house for 4 years and this has happened every year.
ok, this is an example of evidence i am looking for. And no swearing too. Do you think the Earth could wobble briefly and your club not notice?
In a word, No. If the Earth were to "wobble", especially to the extreme that you people claim, there would be instant and catastrophic effects to us and the Earth's surface.
Now, why are you looking for this type of evidence? What I provided is nothing more than "I said so". There is no way for you to verify my claim. On the other hand, the photos presented in this thread are verifiable yet you dismiss them. Why?? Quoting: Nighthawk
The sun has not moved, your house has and city, has slipped to the left. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318980
6/14/2008 5:53 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
What I still want to know is how an astronomy club can measure the Earth's wobble without the use of a Gov web site or internet Quoting: Free Store 154768
To take long exposure Astro photographs the telescope must move precisely with the rotation of the Earth. This is generally achieved by having the telescope rotate at a set speed around its 'polar axis' i.e. around the fixed point that the stars appear to rotate around (which is close to Polaris in the Northern Hemisphere). If the Earth was rapidly wobbling this fixed point would wobble and the telescope would be misaligned making photography impossible. This does not happen.
There is a simple way to measure the axial tilt of the Earth for yourself:
On Summer Solstice at Noon measure the angle the Sun is above your local horizon (Note that noon is the time the Sun passes directly South so generally around 1pm for Northern Hemisphere observers in day light savings time)
Now do exactly the same at noon on the Winter Solstice. Subtract one angle from the other and divide by two - this will give the angle of the axial tilt of the Earth.
If you can't wait till Winter Solstice take the angle you recorded at Summer Solstice add your latitude to it and subtract 90, that will give you the axial tilt of the Earth |
| Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/14/2008 8:47 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
There is a difference between someone saying that you are
mistaken and calling you a liar. Ignore the name callers
and focus on the few of us that are being reasonable.
I have offered ample evidence that the Sun is behaving
normally for people in multiple locations with photographic
evidence from ancient and modern sites. I have yet to see
anyone prove otherwise.
BTW, millions of religious practitioners keep track of the
movements of the Sun through the sky, and none of them have
raised an alarm. Why do you think that is? When it comes
to religion it's hard to suppress alarm. Quoting: DrPostman
I here and understand what you are saying and showing. Had I not seen what I saw, I would pretty much be convinced from what you have pointed out. Unfortunately, those pics hasn't changed what I noticed. So that is the quagmire I am in.
Knowing what you present and knowing what I had presented (mainly myself conviction) (or my own personal proof) has created a strange reality for me.
I charted the suns movements yesterday, here is the pic of my markings. I found an anomaly occurring between 8:30am-9:30am. The angles are near perfect, more so then the rest. The difference per hour is easily recognizable to the naked eye, but not for 8:30-9:30am. It reminds me of the cranes in New York city falling around the 8o'clock hour, March 15th and May 30th.
As far as the measurements go, they are very accurate. I used a launcher for a model rocket and checked it from several angles with a builders square, it is a true 90 degrees straight up. I just recently tied a weight to a string and dangled it next to the launcher and it still shows a perfect 90*. I used the launchers shadow to trace the lines.
[link to i112.photobucket.com]
[link to i112.photobucket.com]
The details are pretty much self-explains. Purple is the direction at different times, going counterclock wise from sunrise is 730(red outline) 830 930 1030 1130am - 2pm 441pm 530 630 730(red outline) 800 and 845 sunset in green. The compass is yellow/orange. The red lines show where an anomaly is beginning. The difference from 730 to 830 is greater then what it should be. Remember when the cranes in New York City fell down, around 8 o'clock.
Also notice the angles for sunrise and sunset are too far north. I am aware they should be a little north from east and west respectively, but not that far. It seems whatever is happening is occurring at night and then corrects itself around 730-930 am EST. Ironically this is 12noon in the mid-atlantic rift. Is there any consideration to magnetism at the mid-atlantic fault line?
And why is 830am-930am so identical in angle unlike the rest?
I assure you of the accuracy of my measurements. I took every consideration into thought making sure the angles were recorded very accurately.
btw, Latitude 40*27'
Tell me what you all think (if you de-bunkers are going to be asses about it, don't bother.) |
| Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
6/14/2008 8:48 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
What I still want to know is how an astronomy club can measure the Earth's wobble without the use of a Gov web site or internet Quoting: Free Store 154768
These people, especially the president, have been observing for years. This guy knows the sky like the back of his hand. If something was wrong he would know in an instant.
They also use goto scopes, planespheres and star charts to aid in observing. The internet or gov. web sites are not needed.
As has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, the Farmers Almanac has been, and still does, accurately predict sunrise and sunset times and has done so for decades.
If the Earth was "wobbling" about, the times would be off, no goto scope would function correctly, planespheres would not align with the sky and neither would star charts.
[link to www.youtube.com] |
| Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/14/2008 8:52 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
In a word, No. If the Earth were to "wobble", especially to the extreme that you people claim, there would be instant and catastrophic effects to us and the Earth's surface. Quoting: unknown person
After yesterdays anomaly, there was a strong cold front diving down from canada causing severe storms and record breaking flooding. Japan has had a very strong earthquake as well. And we truly do not know how much of an effect there would be if the Earth had altered its spin. The Chinese recorded a day when the sun had set twice. Gravity may have a stronger hold on things keeping forces in place during such a shifting.
Look at my recordings for June 13th 2008 EST Latitude 40*27' |
| Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/14/2008 8:54 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
What I still want to know is how an astronomy club can measure the Earth's wobble without the use of a Gov web site or internet
These people, especially the president, have been observing for years. This guy knows the sky like the back of his hand. If something was wrong he would know in an instant.
They also use goto scopes, planespheres and star charts to aid in observing. The internet or gov. web sites are not needed.
As has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, the Farmers Almanac has been, and still does, accurately predict sunrise and sunset times and has done so for decades.
If the Earth was "wobbling" about, the times would be off, no goto scope would function correctly, planespheres would not align with the sky and neither would star charts. Quoting: Nighthawk
Assuming the shift is permanent. What if the shift is occurring during a small part of the day or night. The rest of the time would appear normal. Look at my chart and start observing during the times that appear unusual. Try it. That is why it is called a wobble, it is partial to the day. |
| Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
6/14/2008 9:10 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Assuming the shift is permanent. What if the shift is occurring during a small part of the day or night. The rest of the time would appear normal. Look at my chart and start observing during the times that appear unusual. Try it. That is why it is called a wobble, it is partial to the day. Quoting: Schmieder 324203
My point is that even if this "wobble" only occures during certain parts of the day it would still be noticed by the people who make a living or hobby out of watching the sky.
If there was a "wobble" then it would be very big news and reported everywhere.
[link to www.youtube.com] |
| Schmieder
User ID: 324203
6/14/2008 9:22 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
My point is that even if this "wobble" only occures during certain parts of the day it would still be noticed by the people who make a living or hobby out of watching the sky. Quoting: Nighthawk
you mean people like me among many others who have posted similar claims? And if you make a living from it, speaking up will destroy your career.
Why can't people understand this?
If there was a "wobble" then it would be very big news and reported everywhere. Quoting: Nighthawk
Everywhere but government controlled institutions/businesses like CNN, FoxNews, Reuters, MSNBC, NASA, ESA, BBC, ect.....
As far as I can see, it is everywhere but these government controlled areas.
Is it possible the Twin Towers were destroyed to prevent the wobble from tipping them over? Seems it would be near impossible to hide if that were the case. One building could be explained as a structural deficiency, but not two. But that is just a theory, I'm not committing any basis of reason there concerning 9-11-01. That is still a touchy subject.
Remember the cranes in New York falling over, the Oceans swashing creating unusual high tides, freakishly strong earthquakes where they do not belong (i.e. China) and unusual weather patterns.
Got to run. Will be back later to view replies.
Live, Love and be HAPPY! Peace to you all! |
| Mexican
User ID: 450655
6/14/2008 9:37 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Darkstarcrashes, I hope I haven't insulted you in any way through out this forum. If I had, I am sorry. I see you have a head on your shoulders. Take care.
Don't worry, buddy, you haven't. I'm glad you are on our team! Peace! Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 451308
What is that, the idiot team? I CANT believe this shit is still going on. So you believe some guy who says he sat in his chair and the sun looks right. But thousand year old pyramids built SPECIFICALLY to track the Sun's motion are completely faked? I STILL REFUSE TO BELIEVE ANYONE IS THIS STUPID. If the Earth was coming out of it's orbit, or "wobbling" or ANYTHING you would KNOW about it immediately because you would DIE as the oceans boiled away. HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE YOU? |
| Darza
User ID: 378572
6/14/2008 9:38 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Also notice the angles for sunrise and sunset are too far north. I am aware they should be a little north from east and west respectively, but not that far. It seems whatever is happening is occurring at night and then corrects itself around 730-930 am EST. Ironically this is 12noon in the mid-atlantic rift. Is there any consideration to magnetism at the mid-atlantic fault line?
And why is 830am-930am so identical in angle unlike the rest? Quoting: Schmieder 324203
Hi Schmieder,
Very interesting observations.
Viewing the subject from the other side: If PX is there, near the sun, and a magnet as the Zeta's state, and the crust is thin on the Atlantic, then what would happen?
Would then not, prior to noon-Atlantic, the rotation speed up and after noon-Atlantic slow down? Creating an imbalance with an already tilted axis? Some pulling on the poles? It would have to be a 24 hour cycle, over time growing in severity.
I am not a scientist, does this compute with your findings? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450655
6/14/2008 9:39 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
My point is that even if this "wobble" only occures during certain parts of the day it would still be noticed by the people who make a living or hobby out of watching the sky.
you mean people like me among many others who have posted similar claims? And if you make a living from it, speaking up will destroy your career.
Why can't people understand this?
If there was a "wobble" then it would be very big news and reported everywhere.
Everywhere but government controlled institutions/businesses like CNN, FoxNews, Reuters, MSNBC, NASA, ESA, BBC, ect.....
As far as I can see, it is everywhere but these government controlled areas.
Is it possible the Twin Towers were destroyed to prevent the wobble from tipping them over? Seems it would be near impossible to hide if that were the case. One building could be explained as a structural deficiency, but not two. But that is just a theory, I'm not committing any basis of reason there concerning 9-11-01. That is still a touchy subject.
Remember the cranes in New York falling over, the Oceans swashing creating unusual high tides, freakishly strong earthquakes where they do not belong (i.e. China) and unusual weather patterns.
Got to run. Will be back later to view replies.
Live, Love and be HAPPY! Peace to you all! Quoting: Schmieder 324203
HOLY SHIT!!!Just when I thought it can't POSSIBLY get any stupider, it does! AMAZING. Can you manage to tie your shoes by yourself? |
| MExican
User ID: 450655
6/14/2008 9:40 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Also notice the angles for sunrise and sunset are too far north. I am aware they should be a little north from east and west respectively, but not that far. It seems whatever is happening is occurring at night and then corrects itself around 730-930 am EST. Ironically this is 12noon in the mid-atlantic rift. Is there any consideration to magnetism at the mid-atlantic fault line?
And why is 830am-930am so identical in angle unlike the rest?
Hi Schmieder,
Very interesting observations.
Viewing the subject from the other side: If PX is there, near the sun, and a magnet as the Zeta's state, and the crust is thin on the Atlantic, then what would happen?
Would then not, prior to noon-Atlantic, the rotation speed up and after noon-Atlantic slow down? Creating an imbalance with an already tilted axis? Some pulling on the poles? It would have to be a 24 hour cycle, over time growing in severity.
I am not a scientist, does this compute with your findings? Quoting: Darza
OMFG....just when I think it STILL can't get any stupider, it DOES!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318980
6/14/2008 9:46 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
sunrise is 730(red outline)
Latitude 40*27' Quoting: Schmieder 324203
You are saying the Sun rose at 7.30 am at latitude 40 27. I am assuming you are in North America right? Pittsburgh is at that latitude but maybe not at the same longitude as you and In Pittsburgh the Sun rose at 5.49 am This make me very suspicious of your measuments. What longitude are you at? Or at least can you give the State that you are in if you do not want to be too specific about yur location |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 450628
6/14/2008 9:54 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
hey I noticed something last night as the sun was setting.
It wasnt setting where it normally should.
It WAS setting a little bit more north than I have ever seen it set.
I lived in my neighborhood for over 20 years. And the sun would always set behind a hill and a tree.
Last night for the first time ever I noticed it was setting a further north than I have ever seen it set. |
| Darza
User ID: 378572
6/14/2008 9:56 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
OMFG....just when I think it STILL can't get any stupider, it DOES!!!! Quoting: MExican 450655
Hi Mexican,
Why the anger and the fear?
I already established the earth is likely wobbling by watching the moon. We compared the actual direction of the crescent with that of a java-program with moon phases from the web. What we saw was that the line was about 30 degrees off, the line from the crescent was like 30 degrees from the HORIZONTAL axis, the horizon. According to the program it should be 60 degrees.
If you believe me you would be stupid, then you would give your power to others you do not even know.
It is very easy to check for yourselves,, you need to see it for yourself for it to have an impact, to open the eyes. to get awake. Truth can only be found in experience
If you do not do your own research you are lazy and asleep. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/14/2008 10:23 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
What I still want to know is how an astronomy club can measure the Earth's wobble without the use of a Gov web site or internet Quoting: Free Store 154768
It's very simple. Observe the altitude angle of Polaris. It's 3/4 of a degree from the north celestial pole and rotates about it once every 24 hours.
Also, many amateur astronomers are also astrophotographers, such as myself. Long exposure photography absolutely relies on the perfect alignment of the rotational axes of our mounts with the earth's rotational pole. You can see my rig at
[link to www.machunter.org]
Note the massive contrete foundation under my mount and the precision adjustment screws that were adjusted to accurately align the mount with the earth's rotational pole when it was installed. ANY change in the relative alignment of this axis would result in "field rotation" in exposures over just a few minutes. Often, my exposure sessions are over 3 hours with no evidence of field rotation, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt the stability of the earth's rotational axis.
You can see some of my images here...
[link to www.machunter.org] |
| Freeman
User ID: 451713
6/14/2008 10:46 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
HOLY SHIT!!!Just when I thought it can't POSSIBLY get any stupider, it does! AMAZING. Can you manage to tie your shoes by yourself? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450655
Holy shit! can you manage to gather enough braincells together to form an inteligent argument against what he just said!?
Then again, you wouldnt live up too your Anonymous Coward status. |
| Freeman
User ID: 451713
6/14/2008 11:06 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
And what evidence do you have to so surely prove this theory wrong?
Id like to hear it.
For Nibiru -
1. Climate change on earth
2. More frequent natural disasters
3. Climate change on planets other than earth.
4. Sneaky - Type in Nibiru into the NASA search engine and an eplanation into 'Planet X' comes up. Not direct evidence, but maybe a sneaky clue?
5. The amazing attention the Planet x theory is getting, not only on GLP where we have so many do gooders who despise fear mongering, but everywhere the subject is mentioned on the internet.
give me your 'Against' arguemnts. Thanks, im sure you will have plenty seen as your so hung up and caring about the whole subject.
None of your points explain how a large planet playing hide
and go seek in our inner solar system could be the cause, while parsimony says Global Warming makes more sense. Quoting: DrPostman
For the record, i never said the planet was playing hide and go seek. (An for that matter i never said it was a planet) I will however counter that argument by stating simply that ZetaTalk was wrong with their prediction, because either :
A. It was an honest miscalculation.
B. It was a coverup, a mere attempt to discredit the entire theory by giving an early arrival time whilst fully knowing that it would not arrive, thus giving credibility to it being a hoax.
Plus the
fact that we have only been observing weather on other
planets for less than half a century. Quoting: DrPostman
Our lifespan is very short. A century is but a blink of the eye when we look at events that are happening on a galactic or even universal scale.
The fact that such dramatic changes have occured in the mere time of half a century is enough evidence to prove that something is very much wrong.
These sort of galactic events happen over the space of millenia unless there is an external event that is causing them.
Amazing attention? Go up to ten people on the street and
I bet NONE of them will tell you that they know anything
about a "Planet X". Quoting: DrPostman
Im talking about the attention it is getting on internet forums. If i start a topic stating 'I know for a fact Santa Claus is real' It would not get near as much attention as if i posted a thread entitled 'Nibiru is real, our star is a twin to a binary star system.' Then, people would flock to prove this much less idiotic statement wrong.
It does not matter how silly of a thread i start, nothing and i mean NOTHING will get more attention then threads that focus on 'climate change' and 'nibiru/Planet X'
As circumstantial as it may seem, its still one form of evidence.
There is an invisible pink unicorn that follows you around.
I can sense it. Now, how does that make any more sense
than what you just said. Quoting: DrPostman
This isnt my battle but i wish to concer that in theory, if the invisible pink unicorn was leaving little pink unicorn shits lying around the place and munching bark off trees that left little pink unicorn saliva traces on the bark then this would give credibility to the theory.
Now, In line with what you just said, with that logic, electricity does not exist simply because i cannot see it.
How can we prove something that we cannot see? We look at signs that would corealate with its existance.
There is an abundance of signs out there supporting the theory that there is a celestial event happening that we are not being told about. Whether or not this is planet x i honestly do not know but i do know that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. |
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