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| Geogal
User ID: 373387
6/15/2008 3:56 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
LOL! Sorry. I guess what I wrote was misunderstood... I meant the pictures themselves had the same appearances with minute changes to each picture.
Yes, I do agree that something with that long of an orbital period would take some time to pass by the sun in our area.
Well, as I said, people can judge the info for themselves, and yes, of course it is a hypothesis. I will say, though, that something with a 3,600 year elliptical orbit would necessarily take some time to pass by and head back, so I don't consider the changes to be minute really. For a comparison, it takes Pluto 248 years to complete one orbit around the sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 451897 |
| Ritchy
User ID: 364775
6/15/2008 5:30 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
It's because of the light of the Galactic Centre that's coming from behind our sun towards us. That's maybe also why it looks like the sun is coming up more to the north and we have shorter nights, but it's probably really because of the light from de GC behind the light of the sun.
You can feel the energy...  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448130
6/15/2008 5:45 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
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| Turtles Know
User ID: 406673
6/15/2008 5:54 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Something funky is going on, that's all I know. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
6/15/2008 6:01 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Haven't read this thread, but every single year here it is - the same topic that goes for dozens of pages because people are too stupid to understand how the sun's location changes according to the time of year. |
| Turtles Know
User ID: 406673
6/15/2008 6:03 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Haven't read this thread, but every single year here it is - the same topic that goes for dozens of pages because people are too stupid to understand how the sun's location changes according to the time of year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 92826
How many years? |
| Bob(tm) nli
User ID: 287255
6/15/2008 6:04 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Haven't read this thread, but every single year here it is - the same topic that goes for dozens of pages because people are too stupid to understand how the sun's location changes according to the time of year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 92826
Agreed. Sad, isn't it?
Btw: This thread also has nearly 4 stars with 40 votes so far. So, yes, lots of tards on board this one. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 406673
6/15/2008 6:23 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Haven't read this thread, but every single year here it is - the same topic that goes for dozens of pages because people are too stupid to understand how the sun's location changes according to the time of year.
How many years? Quoting: Turtles Know 406673
How many years have folks been saying this? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/15/2008 8:01 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
For those of you who claim that the sun is out of place, let me ask you one very simple question. Do you think that it will be out of place as noted by the many ancient monuments at sunrise on the morning of the Summer Solstice (June 21st). Yes, or no. |
| Turtles Know
User ID: 406673
6/15/2008 8:08 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I'm going to ask again, how many years have folks been saying there is something out of whack with the sun or the earth's arc, this isn't a hard question, since all y'all keep saying it's been happening for years. How many years? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452280
6/15/2008 8:25 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Circuit Breaker
User ID: 447169
6/15/2008 1:46 PM
Re: Sun IS too far north, regardless of what shills say Quote
I have noticed in the past year or so, that I never, repeat, never have to pull the shades down over that window. I still cook dinner at the same time, there is nothing blocking the window from outside, but the sun at that time of day is now in the northeast corner of my house.
I am very aware of it because I have two corner windows in the same kitchen and now the light is coming in those two windows.
Also, in the morning, my east facing windows are not all bright, because the sun is further north (that would be the back of my house, not the side).
Think what you want, but this has been very noticeable.
Quoting: INK 452280
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And I believe you just never really paid attention before until you read this thread and are now noticing things that have been happening for as long as you've been around.
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Believe what you want Circuit Breaker, but when the sun came in that window (previously) it was blinding, hence the room darkeners. After 13 or so years of pulling the shades or blinds down on that window, believe me, I noticed when I no longer had to do that. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447169
6/15/2008 8:25 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I'm going to ask again, how many years have folks been saying there is something out of whack with the sun or the earth's arc, this isn't a hard question, since all y'all keep saying it's been happening for years. How many years? Quoting: Turtles Know 406673
For as long as I've been coming here, which started in 2003. |
| Turtles Know 
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User ID: 406673
6/15/2008 8:27 PM
 | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I'm going to ask again, how many years have folks been saying there is something out of whack with the sun or the earth's arc, this isn't a hard question, since all y'all keep saying it's been happening for years. How many years?
For as long as I've been coming here, which started in 2003. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 447169
So the date folks started questioning the sun placement or the arc of the earth was 2003, interesting. Anyone else have any memories of when folks started questioning?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318980
6/15/2008 9:03 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I'm going to ask again, how many years have folks been saying there is something out of whack with the sun or the earth's arc, this isn't a hard question, since all y'all keep saying it's been happening for years. How many years?
For as long as I've been coming here, which started in 2003.
So the date folks started questioning the sun placement or the arc of the earth was 2003, interesting. Anyone else have any memories of when folks started questioning? Quoting: Turtles Know
err no -what the poster said was they first visited this forum in 2003 and from that date to now there have always been posts around this time of year saying the Sun is too far north. All this implies is a proportion of folks who visit GLP are continually surprised when the Sun does the same thing it does every year. |
| Mexican
User ID: 450655
6/15/2008 9:06 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Wait, Oh my god! THis morning, when the Sun came up, it came up really fast! THEN, even freakier, once it fully cleared the horizon a bit, it SLOWED DOWN! At noon, it was barely moving! THEN, it gets even weirder! As it approached the horizon at sunset, it started to SPEED UP AGAIN!
I made scientific measurements, so I am POSITIVE that something FREAKY is happening. I tied a string to an empty beer bottle, then suspended my crack pipe from it. As the sun crossed the sky, I marked off the shadow of the pipe on the side of the bottle every time I took a hit! This is ABSOLUTE PROOF! Only thing is, I can't imagine why the whole ocean didn't just slosh over the side like a kiddy pool being yanked behind a pickup truck. (Did that oncet to my little cousin. That was funny. Now she's my wife) But I'm telling you, SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY WRONG WITH THE SUN.
Tomorrow I will make the same measurements, and then I will KNOW.
I think it's Planet X!
Or the pole shift!
And the government is covering the whole thing up! What the fuck?
AND I know what I'm talking about, cause I have a 157 IQ. And I'm NOT INSANE. |
| Mexican
User ID: 450655
6/15/2008 9:09 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I'm going to ask again, how many years have folks been saying there is something out of whack with the sun or the earth's arc, this isn't a hard question, since all y'all keep saying it's been happening for years. How many years?
For as long as I've been coming here, which started in 2003.
So the date folks started questioning the sun placement or the arc of the earth was 2003, interesting. Anyone else have any memories of when folks started questioning?
err no -what the poster said was they first visited this forum in 2003 and from that date to now there have always been posts around this time of year saying the Sun is too far north. All this implies is a proportion of folks who visit GLP are continually surprised when the Sun does the same thing it does every year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980
Kind of like sheep you see standing in a field at the roadside. Every time a car passes, they are surprised again. THis is because they are pretty fucking stupid. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/15/2008 9:12 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
For those of you who claim that the sun is out of place, let me ask you one very simple question. Do you think that it will be out of place as noted by the many ancient monuments at sunrise on the morning of the Summer Solstice (June 21st). Yes, or no. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 88145
It looks like we have no takers from the "sun is in the worng place" crowd. Just as I thought. |
| DrPostman 
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User ID: 51197
6/15/2008 9:39 PM
 | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
But the number of geothermal events, such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, has barely changed. Quoting: Freeman 451713
Did you not notice that part of the article you posted?
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| Mexican
User ID: 450655
6/15/2008 9:41 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
YEah, what do you know? |
| Turtles Know
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User ID: 406673
6/15/2008 9:42 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
All this implies is a proportion of folks who visit GLP are continually surprised when the Sun does the same thing it does every year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980
Perhaps, but perhaps, if listening to witnesses, that is when some folks started noticing something different. I don't agree the sun is too far north, but I do think something is funky.
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| himself
User ID: 449005
6/15/2008 9:44 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I'm going to ask again, how many years have folks been saying there is something out of whack with the sun or the earth's arc, this isn't a hard question, since all y'all keep saying it's been happening for years. How many years?
For as long as I've been coming here, which started in 2003.
So the date folks started questioning the sun placement or the arc of the earth was 2003, interesting. Anyone else have any memories of when folks started questioning? Quoting: Turtles Know
From page 18 of THIS thread:
location
Arizona desert
1986, west of Phoenix
West of White Tank mountains.
Neighbor & I sat on his porch watching sunrise.
He pointed out the peak the sun was rising just left of and noted
"I've seen sunrises from this spot of dozens of years.
It's never been left/north of that peak before.
Wobble!!!
Earth's textbook tilt is an average!
Did I demand the old man call Flagstaff's Lowell Observatory and talk to astronomers?
Nah!
They mapped canals on Mars in years past.
Professional just means you get paid for it.
Doesn't mean you are smarter or more observant than anyone else. |
| DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
6/15/2008 9:54 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I here and understand what you are saying and showing. Had I not seen what I saw, I would pretty much be convinced from what you have pointed out. Unfortunately, those pics hasn't changed what I noticed. So that is the quagmire I am in.
Knowing what you present and knowing what I had presented (mainly myself conviction) (or my own personal proof) has created a strange reality for me.
I charted the suns movements yesterday, here is the pic of my markings. I found an anomaly occurring between 8:30am-9:30am. The angles are near perfect, more so then the rest. The difference per hour is easily recognizable to the naked eye, but not for 8:30-9:30am. It reminds me of the cranes in New York city falling around the 8o'clock hour, March 15th and May 30th.
As far as the measurements go, they are very accurate. I used a launcher for a model rocket and checked it from several angles with a builders square, it is a true 90 degrees straight up. I just recently tied a weight to a string and dangled it next to the launcher and it still shows a perfect 90*. I used the launchers shadow to trace the lines.
[ link to i112.photobucket.com]
[ link to i112.photobucket.com]
The details are pretty much self-explains. Purple is the direction at different times, going counterclock wise from sunrise is 730(red outline) 830 930 1030 1130am - 2pm 441pm 530 630 730(red outline) 800 and 845 sunset in green. The compass is yellow/orange. The red lines show where an anomaly is beginning. The difference from 730 to 830 is greater then what it should be. Remember when the cranes in New York City fell down, around 8 o'clock.
Also notice the angles for sunrise and sunset are too far north. I am aware they should be a little north from east and west respectively, but not that far. It seems whatever is happening is occurring at night and then corrects itself around 730-930 am EST. Ironically this is 12noon in the mid-atlantic rift. Is there any consideration to magnetism at the mid-atlantic fault line?
And why is 830am-930am so identical in angle unlike the rest?
I assure you of the accuracy of my measurements. I took every consideration into thought making sure the angles were recorded very accurately.
btw, Latitude 40*27'
Tell me what you all think (if you de-bunkers are going to be asses about it, don't bother.)
I still think you may have made a mistake in your measurements.
For example, your East-West line at the top of the
image shows, albeit with multiple lines, a variance
on the West side from your 4 points drawing at the
bottom. Also, I am not an astronomer or even that
much of a casual observer. I am not the best one to
judge the accuracy of your measurements.
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| DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
6/15/2008 10:22 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Geogal, my point in posting this jpg is that it shows, according to the opinion of some people at least, what the orbit looks like, and where they expect it to be by next year. Looking at the huge elliptical orbit, it's clear that if it IS there, it would only be viewable from the south pole by a very strong telescope. Doesn't that begin to answer your question?
What does KWIM mean, by the way? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 451897
Anyone standing anywhere South of the Equator can see anything
that someone standing at the South Pole can see at least once
a day.
Think about standing above a globe. Can you not look down
and see to the Equator? Anything on that globe can conversely
look up and see you.
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| DrPostman
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6/15/2008 10:26 PM
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Now, In line with what you just said, with that logic, electricity does not exist simply because i cannot see it.
How can we prove something that we cannot see? We look at signs that would corealate with its existance. Quoting: Freeman 451713
Lovely, so if I were to say that we have proof of electricity
you could say it's not electricity but Merlin's magic. After
all, we have ancient texts that tell us of that magic.
There is an abundance of signs out there supporting the theory that there is a celestial event happening that we are not being told about. Whether or not this is planet x i honestly do not know but i do know that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Quoting: Freeman 451713
Coincidence doesn't imply correlation and correlation doesn't imply causation.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 133105
6/15/2008 10:39 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
The only sane response to the "sun/moon is out of place" tards is derision... |
| DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
6/15/2008 10:56 PM
| | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
The only sane response to the "sun/moon is out of place" tards is derision... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 133105
I disagree. There are lots of things I don't understand and
that I am completely ignorant of. I will often ask what would
be considered by someone who knows better a "stupid question".
Admittedly I will usually try to Google it first, but I don't
believe that there are stupid questions. There are trolls
though who are intentionally stupid and are trying to get a
rise out of people to make that side look bad. They have no
control over how successful they are. YOU do.
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| Setheory
User ID: 351516
6/16/2008 12:35 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Perhaps, but perhaps, if listening to witnesses, that is when some folks started noticing something different. I don't agree the sun is too far north, but I do think something is funky. Quoting: Turtles Know
..................
What "specifically" have you noticed that has caused you to believe that "something is funky"?
................. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/16/2008 2:31 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I see that another day has passed and none of the "sun is in the wrong place" crowd have answered the very simple question regarding the sun's position at sunrise on the Solstice. I guess that means that they don't really believe what they are claiming. |
| czygyny
User ID: 418932
6/16/2008 3:15 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I see that another day has passed and none of the "sun is in the wrong place" crowd have answered the very simple question regarding the sun's position at sunrise on the Solstice. I guess that means that they don't really believe what they are claiming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 88145
This was one of my first thoughts when I heard that people thought that the sun was too far north/too far south-(depending on what time of year-this discussion will revive close to the winter solstice.) I haven't heard a peep about the solstices not coming on the day that it should, and those monuments that indicate the solstice all over the world, have been here many generations. They would be the first indicator that something was out of whack.
I noticed that the sun came through my north facing window, and knew that it did so last year, too.
Guess what, after around June 21st, the sun will start its slow creep southwards again, the days shorten and the nights once again lengthen.
We didn't even get into the 'sun isn't yellow anymore', which usually follows hand in hand with this discussion. It seems to me that maybe you remember coloring the sun with a yellow (or orange) crayon on your drawings when you were young, I know I painted the sun yellow in my paintings as a child, but that sun has always been perceived as a white ball for as long as I can remember when glancing up. Perhaps you remember when the autumn light would stream through your windows with a rich amber glow, due to the lower altitude of the sun filtering through the atmosphere, lighting up the motes of dust in the air with a magical touch. I really do think that those memories 'color' your impression of the sun's appearance. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424730
6/16/2008 3:27 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I found this site from a Google search - sun too far north. The sun now bothers my TV watching and so I looked around for others who have seen the same thing.
I do not get paid to stare at the sun. However, living in this house for the last 52 years does provide a relative basis for observations. My home faces north. Never before has the setting sun shed light on my front windows. Now in the evening whilst watching the boob tube we have to close the blinds in those windows.
I don't need to draw pictures or measure shadows - I know what I know - the sun is further north now than in the 5 decades I've lived here. |
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