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| DarkStarCrashes User ID: 449594 6/10/2008 11:41 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980
computer sofware is not proof. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 166625 6/10/2008 11:44 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I!
computer sofware is not proof. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
Can you link |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/10/2008 11:45 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I don't know if this is all true or not, Surely, it can be easily tested.
Yes it can, so why are you so unwilling to test it?
show me the test, dick. im not afraid of anything. i've been asking for the proof stupid.
Well you seem to be afraid of polite conversation and actually reading the content of posts. I have already said that if you give me latitude and a longitude I will tell you exactly where the Sun will set on any date according to science - you can then go to that location and test to see if my predictions are true.
If this would not be proof enough for you what would? What kind of proof are you looking for?
On todays Date and compare the Data to 20 yrs ago
If you can find a chart that goes back
City ° ' ° ' Time
Albany, N.Y. 42 40 73 45 12:00 noon
1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened?
2)The Earth is supposed to be abnormally "wobbling", right? That means that the motion is unpredictable. How in the world do you think that ANY database could predict those erratic motions?
it not erratic. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
What? The new alleged "wrong" motion? Why do you say that? According to Nancy Lieder, the queen mother of all this bullshit, it is, and she is 100% right, always. You disagree? Take it up with her. She says it changes all the time. Sometimes right places for things, sometimes wrong places.
If the Sun is always in a consistent new place in the sky, it would mean that Earth's axis had tilted to a new, permanent position. That would mean that Polaris was no longer the pole star, and that no permanent equatorial mount telescopes would work. Those are, many times, mounted in tons of concrete and can't be moved. You think no one would notice if they quit working? You think Polaris is no longer the pole star?
u make that part up. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
No, the almighty "zetas" did. You want to differ with 300IQ aliens? Carefully. They will come for you in the night!
software udates by itself all the time. Let see non computer proof. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
Go to any large library, astronomy club or university. How do I know you won't do that?
Why did you ignore this part?:
1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened? |
| DarkStarCrashes User ID: 449594 6/10/2008 11:46 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote | 2 perfectly shot stonehedge pics from the heel stone would be good, but i can't seem to find any. all the pics i see have the camera in different spots. It hard to say for sure. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 6/10/2008 11:46 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I!
computer sofware is not proof. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
What would be proof? |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/10/2008 11:47 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Over whelming response to everyone who sees the Sun too far North
As the days pass the people respond more
Just three yrs ago was never so many witnesses noticing anything wrong in the skies
Funny, but not one of them knows where the Sun SHOULD be and can compare the two.
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and todays Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled Quoting: Anonymous Coward 166625
Really? On your sayso? You're dreaming. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 448240 6/10/2008 11:47 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote | Damn! Busted.
-Yeah, the sun moved.
No! Not really!
-The earth moved...
I pushed it.
or maybe it's almost time for it to start going the other way already.
You watch... I'm predicting. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 166625 6/10/2008 11:50 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I!
computer sofware is not proof.
What would be proof? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980
Witnesses are useful as are used in Law |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 448240 6/10/2008 11:50 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote | I am the Great Administrative Assistant to the Minor Prophet Micah... |
| DarkStarCrashes User ID: 449594 6/10/2008 11:54 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I!
computer sofware is not proof.
What would be proof? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980
2 perfectly shot stonehedge pics from the heel stone would be good or something like that. i find it intersting i can't find such photos. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 6/10/2008 11:54 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I!
computer sofware is not proof.
Can you link Quoting: Anonymous Coward 166625
[link to www.srrb.noaa.gov]
Will give you to the nearest minute (5.17 in both cases), my numbers are more accurate though |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/10/2008 11:55 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
2 perfectly shot stonehedge pics from the heel stone would be good, but i can't seem to find any. all the pics i see have the camera in different spots. It hard to say for sure. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
When is one of you idiots going to explain how the world's astronomers, who measure things to fractions of seconds and fractions of degrees, have not seen what you think you see? Or, explain how every one of them is in on a coverup. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 6/10/2008 11:56 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
What would be proof?
Witnesses are useful as are used in Law Quoting: Anonymous Coward 166625
Give me your location and I'll tell you your local sunset/sunrise times and positions so you can witness it for yourself |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/10/2008 11:57 PM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I!
computer sofware is not proof.
What would be proof?
Witnesses are useful as are used in Law Quoting: Anonymous Coward 166625
Only witnesses who are qualified. Meaning those who have a clue about what they are looking at. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 448240 6/11/2008 12:00 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I am the Great Administrative Assistant to the Minor Prophet Micah... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 448240
To leave all, called from my nowhere to go nowhere in particular
in my most magnificent service in my most extraordinarily important duty to mankind
the truest of the truthiess
It is your honor and privelge to have my obligation to serve truevitude
I shall give you secret pearls of pasta.
[link to www.youtube.com]
You may sit at my feet and bask in my secret decoder batphone journey to Debuque, Iowa.
But I warn you, touch not my anointed poodle.
The Administrative Assistant to the Minor Prophet Micah |
| DarkStarCrashes User ID: 449594 6/11/2008 12:01 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I don't know if this is all true or not, Surely, it can be easily tested.
Yes it can, so why are you so unwilling to test it?
show me the test, dick. im not afraid of anything. i've been asking for the proof stupid.
Well you seem to be afraid of polite conversation and actually reading the content of posts. I have already said that if you give me latitude and a longitude I will tell you exactly where the Sun will set on any date according to science - you can then go to that location and test to see if my predictions are true.
If this would not be proof enough for you what would? What kind of proof are you looking for?
On todays Date and compare the Data to 20 yrs ago
If you can find a chart that goes back
City ° ' ° ' Time
Albany, N.Y. 42 40 73 45 12:00 noon
1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened?
2)The Earth is supposed to be abnormally "wobbling", right? That means that the motion is unpredictable. How in the world do you think that ANY database could predict those erratic motions?
it not erratic.
What? The new alleged "wrong" motion? Why do you say that? According to Nancy Lieder, the queen mother of all this bullshit, it is, and she is 100% right, always. You disagree? Take it up with her. She says it changes all the time. Sometimes right places for things, sometimes wrong places.
If the Sun is always in a consistent new place in the sky, it would mean that Earth's axis had tilted to a new, permanent position. That would mean that Polaris was no longer the pole star, and that no permanent equatorial mount telescopes would work. Those are, many times, mounted in tons of concrete and can't be moved. You think no one would notice if they quit working? You think Polaris is no longer the pole star?
u make that part up.
No, the almighty "zetas" did. You want to differ with 300IQ aliens? Carefully. They will come for you in the night!
software udates by itself all the time. Let see non computer proof.
Go to any large library, astronomy club or university. How do I know you won't do that?
Why did you ignore this part?:
1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened? Quoting: Menow 449281
who cares about nancy leader? i did not cite her for anything. go argue with someone else who cares. show me some charts then. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 329387 6/11/2008 12:02 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I moved to Alaska 9 years ago. At that time, here in Anchorage, we would have about 2 hours of total darkness and an hour of twilight on each side of those 2 hours around summer solstice - the way it's been for as long as anyone can remember. I have clients whose yards and plants I take care of during the summer months. Up to 4 years ago everything seemed "normal". During the past 4 years I've had to deal with lots of dying plants due to being fried by the sun. In addition to that, the daylight during the summer months has been increasing at night. This summer, like last summer, there is no "night time"...no 2 hours of dark anymore. It stays light here for 24 hours now with just a 'hint' of twilight around 2am. Many people here have commented on the increase of daylight hours...including the native residents who have been observing the skies here for 10,000 years.
Total horseshit. There has NEVER been ANY real twilight in Anchorage at summer solstice in all of recorded history. There is, and ALWAYS has been NO time of total darkness during those nights.
[ link to www.wunderground.com]
"Length Of Visible Light: 24h 00m
Length of Day 19h 12m
Tomorrow will be 1m 58s longer."
I offered this forum an honest observation and you, sir, or whatever you are, just called me a liar.
No, I'm calling you seriously mistaken. I said it as I did because what you claim is ludicrous if you are claiming that the Sun is not where it used to be during solstice. There CANNOT be total darkness in Anchorage during the summer solstice due to the fact that the Sun is simply not far enough below the horizon. This has not changed in recorded history. Quoting: Menow 449281
Quoting Anonymous Coward 448232
ps I live in Fairbanks AK, used to live on the Kenai Peninsula just south of Anchorage and the Anchorage resident is right that there used to be at least a very deep dusk in the middle of even midsummer nights. Haven't been down that way for many years so I don't know about now. Here summer is definitely and always has been light all night (don't see stars from mid-May to early August), but the skies do seem more luminous, like something in the high atmosphere is scattering the light rays and we are getting more over-the-horizon 'backscatter'. . . this is especially noticeable in the wintertime. . .
You also called hundreds of native elders liars.
Where is the quote of "hundreds of native elders" agreeing with you? I think you exaggerate.
You may "think" whatever you like, Menow. However, you have not attended the symposiums on the subject that have been held here by the native population.
You also called my 81 year old aunt a liar (who remarked to me last year, "These past few summers have been odd - it never gets dark anymore in June when it always has for the past 50 years I've been here.")
Ever think about the possibility that city lights have vastly increased in your aunts lifetime?
And certainly they have! But city lights are do not make the sky blue at night!
Having read your posts in this thread, all I can say is that your blatant arrogance is only exceeded by your willful ignorance.
Please quote my alleged "willful ignorance", or outline it. You are a buffoon who thinks he has discovered some vast conspiracy. Get a clue.
Again, READ what I wrote. Never said anything about any conspiracy, vast or otherwise. I shared my observations as a contribution to this thread.
I'm sorry but, my experience, as well as all those who live here, trumps your sophomoric need to pander to some sort of authority figure.
Huh? What are you going on about now? What "authority figure"?
"Now"? Have I been "going on" here? Me thinks that Menow protesteth too much. Look, you are constantly claiming that anyone who posts any idea or experience that you do not agree with, is a liar or a conspirator or some "buffoon" because conventional science and/or scientists (authority figures) have no (current) explanation for those ideas or experiences. Hence - pandering to authority figures. I know what I have experienced. It doesn't really matter if 1000 scientists, or some obscure person calling himself "Menow" on a conspiracy website, tells me that what I experienced is impossible - I have my experience and am open to discussion on the topic. You, on the other hand, have your cemented *beliefs* and argue your position using *post hoc ergo propter hoc* "logic" . There is a difference. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 166625 6/11/2008 12:05 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I!
computer sofware is not proof.
Can you link
[ link to www.srrb.noaa.gov]
Will give you to the nearest minute (5.17 in both cases), my numbers are more accurate though Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980
Now we are getting somewhere
Is that due to the Earth's rotation slowing? |
| DarkStarCrashes User ID: 449594 6/11/2008 12:07 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
2 perfectly shot stonehedge pics from the heel stone would be good, but i can't seem to find any. all the pics i see have the camera in different spots. It hard to say for sure.
When is one of you idiots going to explain how the world's astronomers, who measure things to fractions of seconds and fractions of degrees, have not seen what you think you see? Or, explain how every one of them is in on a coverup. Quoting: Menow 449281
i have never hear an astronmer comment on this topic. These guys lie about comets and pretend we went to the moon so its possible. all the weathermen lie about chemtrails. Do they not? lets see photo proof. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 166625 6/11/2008 12:08 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote | Serious...then what are people crowing about? Just to waste time I would think..and in the GLP archive there are many many wittinesses |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 166625 6/11/2008 12:13 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote | After learning the UFO cover-up was in place to protect the masses and the Sciences
Can the same thing be said for Noaa? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 6/11/2008 12:14 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I left a challenge, the Sunrise times for Albany NY and today’s Sunrise for Albany
If they match Sunrises then it's settled
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 1988 5:16:42
Sunrise June 11th Albany NY 2008 05 16:46
A grand difference of 4 seconds or 0.016 degrees to its apparent rising position - if you are telling me this is the difference the OP has noticed they have better eyes then I!
computer sofware is not proof.
Can you link
[ link to www.srrb.noaa.gov]
Will give you to the nearest minute (5.17 in both cases), my numbers are more accurate though
Now we are getting somewhere
Is that due to the Earth's rotation slowing? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 166625
Nope its due to a combination of the very small short term wobble in the the Earth's polar axis and the fact that even with leap years our calander does not quite work in terms of putting the Earth at exactly the same point in its orbit on the same date at the same time from one year to the next. However the differences we are talking about are pretty academic and certainly not noticable to the naked eye in terms of the location of the Sunset/Rise |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/11/2008 12:18 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened?
2)The Earth is supposed to be abnormally "wobbling", right? That means that the motion is unpredictable. How in the world do you think that ANY database could predict those erratic motions?
it not erratic.
What? The new alleged "wrong" motion? Why do you say that? According to Nancy Lieder, the queen mother of all this bullshit, it is, and she is 100% right, always. You disagree? Take it up with her. She says it changes all the time. Sometimes right places for things, sometimes wrong places.
If the Sun is always in a consistent new place in the sky, it would mean that Earth's axis had tilted to a new, permanent position. That would mean that Polaris was no longer the pole star, and that no permanent equatorial mount telescopes would work. Those are, many times, mounted in tons of concrete and can't be moved. You think no one would notice if they quit working? You think Polaris is no longer the pole star?
u make that part up.
No, the almighty "zetas" did. You want to differ with 300IQ aliens? Carefully. They will come for you in the night!
software udates by itself all the time. Let see non computer proof.
Go to any large library, astronomy club or university. How do I know you won't do that?
Why did you ignore this part?:
1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened?
who cares about nancy leader? i did not cite her for anything. go argue with someone else who cares. show me some charts then. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
You apparently don't know that she is the original source of the most of the bullshit you believe in. That is true, whether you know it or not.
You need me to take you by the hand and lead you to a library? Not likely, sparky.
Why did you ignore this part?:
1)How do you imagine that at some point all charts became obsolete, with nobody noticing it, and then they were all replaced with different ones with nobody objecting and no record of it ever having happened? |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/11/2008 12:40 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I moved to Alaska 9 years ago. At that time, here in Anchorage, we would have about 2 hours of total darkness and an hour of twilight on each side of those 2 hours around summer solstice - the way it's been for as long as anyone can remember. I have clients whose yards and plants I take care of during the summer months. Up to 4 years ago everything seemed "normal". During the past 4 years I've had to deal with lots of dying plants due to being fried by the sun. In addition to that, the daylight during the summer months has been increasing at night. This summer, like last summer, there is no "night time"...no 2 hours of dark anymore. It stays light here for 24 hours now with just a 'hint' of twilight around 2am. Many people here have commented on the increase of daylight hours...including the native residents who have been observing the skies here for 10,000 years.
Total horseshit. There has NEVER been ANY real twilight in Anchorage at summer solstice in all of recorded history. There is, and ALWAYS has been NO time of total darkness during those nights.
[ link to www.wunderground.com]
"Length Of Visible Light: 24h 00m
Length of Day 19h 12m
Tomorrow will be 1m 58s longer."
I offered this forum an honest observation and you, sir, or whatever you are, just called me a liar.
No, I'm calling you seriously mistaken. I said it as I did because what you claim is ludicrous if you are claiming that the Sun is not where it used to be during solstice. There CANNOT be total darkness in Anchorage during the summer solstice due to the fact that the Sun is simply not far enough below the horizon. This has not changed in recorded history.
Quoting Anonymous Coward 448232
ps I live in Fairbanks AK, used to live on the Kenai Peninsula just south of Anchorage and the Anchorage resident is right that there used to be at least a very deep dusk in the middle of even midsummer nights. Haven't been down that way for many years so I don't know about now. Here summer is definitely and always has been light all night (don't see stars from mid-May to early August), but the skies do seem more luminous, like something in the high atmosphere is scattering the light rays and we are getting more over-the-horizon 'backscatter'. . . this is especially noticeable in the wintertime. . .
You also called hundreds of native elders liars.
Where is the quote of "hundreds of native elders" agreeing with you? I think you exaggerate.
You may "think" whatever you like, Menow. However, you have not attended the symposiums on the subject that have been held here by the native population. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329387
So you have no quotes or links to articles where "hundreds of native elders" have said such? You don't believe standard, widely accessible astronomical information, yet you expect me to believe your anecdotal stories? That's rich.
You also called my 81 year old aunt a liar (who remarked to me last year, "These past few summers have been odd - it never gets dark anymore in June when it always has for the past 50 years I've been here.")
Ever think about the possibility that city lights have vastly increased in your aunts lifetime?
And certainly they have! But city lights are do not make the sky blue at night! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329387
Perhaps not, but you didn't mention that. However, what DOES make the sky blue at night is the friggin' SUN, which is not sufficiently below the horizon to allow full darkness. What don't you get about that?
Having read your posts in this thread, all I can say is that your blatant arrogance is only exceeded by your willful ignorance.
Please quote my alleged "willful ignorance", or outline it. You are a buffoon who thinks he has discovered some vast conspiracy. Get a clue.
Again, READ what I wrote. Never said anything about any conspiracy, vast or otherwise. I shared my observations as a contribution to this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329387
Now you claim you didn't tell me that the astronomical information I gave was not trustworthy? How else do you imagine it would not be except for some vast conspiracy to hide the "truth"?
I'm sorry but, my experience, as well as all those who live here, trumps your sophomoric need to pander to some sort of authority figure.
Huh? What are you going on about now? What "authority figure"?
"Now"? Have I been "going on" here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329387
Yes. "Going on" about me allegedly pandering to authority figures, unnamed.
Me thinks that Menow protesteth too much. Look, you are constantly claiming that anyone who posts any idea or experience that you do not agree with, is a liar or a conspirator or some "buffoon" because conventional science and/or scientists (authority figures) have no (current) explanation for those ideas or experiences. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329387
That is one HELL of a hyperbolic, run-on, broad-brushed indictment. How about addressing the facts of the issue instead of personal attacks?
No explanation?? One was posted, I believe, on this very thread concerning the exact same Inuit reports. Do try to keep up.
Hence - pandering to authority figures. I know what I have experienced. It doesn't really matter if 1000 scientists, or some obscure person calling himself "Menow" on a conspiracy website, tells me that what I experienced is impossible Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329387
There is NO time of complete lack of sunlight in the sky in Anchorage at summer solstice. NONE. Has not been in you or you aunt's lifetime. You are wrong. I showed you exactly why you are wrong. I didn't ask you to take my word for it.
- I have my experience and am open to discussion on the topic. You, on the other hand, have your cemented *beliefs* and argue your position using *post hoc ergo propter hoc* "logic" . There is a difference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329387
My alleged "beliefs" didn't create the position of the Sun too close below the horizon to allow for full darkness. It's a simple fact. You are in the northern latitudes. 61.22 north. It's mid-summer. It's light all night. It's not new. Deal with it. |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/11/2008 12:47 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
2 perfectly shot stonehedge pics from the heel stone would be good, but i can't seem to find any. all the pics i see have the camera in different spots. It hard to say for sure.
When is one of you idiots going to explain how the world's astronomers, who measure things to fractions of seconds and fractions of degrees, have not seen what you think you see? Or, explain how every one of them is in on a coverup.
i have never hear an astronmer comment on this topic. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
Well, that's because they don't know this idiotic "topic" exists. There is not the slightest chance that the Sun is in the wrong place in the sky. If it was, ALL astronomers would know about it within hours. Why don't you just ask one about it? I have been suggesting that all along.
These guys lie about comets and pretend we went to the moon so its possible. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
ALL of them lie? **ALL** of them? Really? ALL OF THEM???
By the way, bubba, we DID go to the Moon. Are you 12? Did you grow up reading conspiracy sites?
all the weathermen lie about chemtrails. Do they not? Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
They do not.
lets see photo proof. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
Repeat: Or, explain how every one of them is in on a coverup. |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/11/2008 12:48 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
lets see photo proof. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 449594
PS: What "photo" would prove it to you? |
| Mr. Predictor   Forum Moderator User ID: 287257 6/11/2008 12:49 AM
 | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote | I live in the Pacific NW ... we have no sun those who beat their swords into plowshares will find themselves plowing for those who don't |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 166625 6/11/2008 12:50 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote | Majority wins this one
Sheeple power |
| Menow User ID: 449281 6/11/2008 12:54 AM | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
I live in the Pacific NW ... we have no sun Quoting: Mr. Predictor
Sadly true. |
| Curtis Loew  Bite me! User ID: 448241 6/11/2008 1:10 AM
 | | Re: I've been through the desert on a thread with no name | Quote |
Holy SHIT! You mean there is another retarded thread about the Sun being TOO FAR SOUTH TOO!!!!AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!This is like the ultimate retardo-thon! Words fail me trying to describe how FUCKING STUPID YOU ALL ARE!!!! Do you actually think the sensible people here are in on some conspiracy? The Earth is actually falling into the Sun and no one but you FUCKING MORONS noticed it? YOUR LIFE WOULD BE OVER WITHIN AN HOUR IF THE EARTH WAS COMING OUT OF ITS ORBIT YOU FUCKING DIMWITS!! What the FUCK are they teaching in schools these days? HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CANNOT BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE THIS STUPID OUTSIDE OF LOONY BINS!!! Quoting: astronomer 449517
Very well said. I would buy you are a beer or drink of your choice if I could pour it down a cat5 cable without destroying my router. My Dog Ate My Signature. |
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