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BBC Uncovers Lost Iraq Billions

 
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A BBC investigation estimates that around $23bn (£11.75bn) may have been lost, stolen or just not properly accounted for in Iraq.

For the first time, the extent to which some private contractors have profited from the conflict and rebuilding has been researched by the BBC's Panorama using US and Iraqi government sources.

A US gagging order is preventing discussion of the allegations.

The order applies to 70 court cases against some of the top US companies.

War profiteering

While George Bush remains in the White House, it is unlikely the gagging orders will be lifted.

To date, no major US contractor faces trial for fraud or mismanagement in Iraq.

The president's Democrat opponents are keeping up the pressure over war profiteering in Iraq.

Henry Waxman who chairs the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform said: "The money that's gone into waste, fraud and abuse under these contracts is just so outrageous, its egregious.

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Obviously not important to American's, you are being shafted, c'est la vie!
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Mr Shalaan was sentenced to two jail terms but he fled the country.


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Hmmmmm...

Wonder where he fled to?

Any guesses?



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Do you need to guess?

I guess not?
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Obviously not important to American's, you are being shafted, c'est la vie!
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No, quite far from unimportant, simply a measure of the criminal nature of the current regime. Not just lost down the memory hole, bound, gagged and stuffed there by court orders.

It's beautiful if you can get away with it and apparently they can.
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Thread: 23 lost billion dollars in Iraq found by bbc
George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace...

"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."

Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!!
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Thanks Fantasia II
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You're welcome.
I think this information should be pinned.
George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace...

"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."

Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!!
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High time the activities of companies like Halliburton, Carlyle and BAE were looked into in the UK also. Surprising where their names crop up. They seem to have got MoD UK firmly by the short and curlies, as far as I can see, with the MoD's procurement people running around like headless chickens buying totally inappropriate equipment. I can't see Panorama looking into that......
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Why aren't there any patriotic Jason Bourne types who could hunt these people down and escalate his own brand of justice? Movies suck because they're fake.
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High time the activities of companies like Halliburton, Carlyle and BAE were looked into in the UK also. Surprising where their names crop up. They seem to have got MoD UK firmly by the short and curlies, as far as I can see, with the MoD's procurement people running around like headless chickens buying totally inappropriate equipment. I can't see Panorama looking into that......
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The rabbit hole runs deep.......all the way to the top!

p.s. please keep Gordon Brown in England!!!
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Thank you for pinning this mods! hf
George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace...

"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."

Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!!
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Thank you for pinning this mods! hf
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:hppyct:
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Thank you for pinning this mods! hf
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touché
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Obviously not important to American's, you are being shafted, c'est la vie!
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No, I think its just adding to the frustration because nothing can be done about it right now. The next election is looking less like an election for "change" than "payback". Republicans are dropping like flies in the special elections going on right now. I really believe the Republican party will disintegrate into a fringe right wing party of little significance in the future.
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Obviously not important to American's, you are being shafted, c'est la vie!


No, I think its just adding to the frustration because nothing can be done about it right now. The next election is looking less like an election for "change" than "payback". Republicans are dropping like flies in the special elections going on right now. I really believe the Republican party will disintegrate into a fringe right wing party of little significance in the future.
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Not going to happen while Bush sits in the Whitehouse...
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High time the activities of companies like Halliburton, Carlyle and BAE were looked into in the UK also. Surprising where their names crop up. They seem to have got MoD UK firmly by the short and curlies, as far as I can see, with the MoD's procurement people running around like headless chickens buying totally inappropriate equipment. I can't see Panorama looking into that......



The rabbit hole runs deep.......all the way to the top!

p.s. please keep Gordon Brown in England!!!
 Quoting: Wul


I think we would all prefer it if he went back to Scotland, where he belongs. We English certainly don't want him down our end. Or, come to think of it, any of his countrymen who seem to have squirmed their way into his government.
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There is a preview to the BBC Panorama Programme of this investigation up on their site now, and the full version should be put up there shortly.
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]
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It's so sad.

If people actually wanted to be good: do what's right, work for their money rather than scheme ways to make more, and see the light that comes from following such a journey???

But we are fucked and World War 4 is just around the corner
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p.s. please keep Gordon Brown in England!!!
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Brown and Labour (his party) are suffering terribly, i expect them to be ousted soon.

And Scotland is trying to break free, a move Brown is desperate to prevent because he comes from and his seat in parliament is in Scotland.
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Gag order in the US= government complicity in the fraud and crimes.PERIOD.
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... golly, lol, and here I thought that that was just pretty much common knowledge... and... just sorta being sloughed off kinda like the Partiot Act was, has been, and is still.

Ya thinks maybe it's about time for to send them politicians their pink slips, and telling them that while we really do appreciate, and thank ya very much, all of their self-interested efforts at representing 'our will', we no longer require their services.

... lol, or not.
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thanks Wul, good thread
Have you seen the documentary "Iraq for Sale" ?
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in my Cadillac
good car to drive after a war - the poet

hf
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BBC needs to look at the Vatican they have alot of stolen properly bump
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Not going to happen while Bush sits in the Whitehouse...
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And we are not safe even after the election...must wait until inauguration. A lot can happen between now and then...

I do not think we will ever be safe.
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I think the closest we will ever come to being safe again is when they stop their ridiculous campaign to remove ALL guns from the general public. It's been the highlight of several documentaries on the topic that criminals, the garden variety and the elites, HATE going into areas that are populated with a largely pro self-protection population.

As for the war profiteering, any have turned a blind eye, some are too dumbed down, and the rest run around ranting about it, but never have the balls to see what needs to be done to change our 'elected' officials deth grip on our throats, wallets, and liberties.
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why would you worry about mis-spent tax dollars, when you could just turn on "american idol" or "dancing with the stars"?
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283256, you mailed it.
"A US gagging order is preventing discussion of the allegations."

Silence = complicity. And like 9/11, no official meaningful investigation will EVER happen.
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The BBC are disinfo shills about like faux news is..I wouldn't put One iota of credit in anything they report...the BBC is responsible for instilling mass hatred for the US throughout europe... but we more than likely deserve it!!!
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Obviously not important to American's, you are being shafted, c'est la vie!


No, I think its just adding to the frustration because nothing can be done about it right now. The next election is looking less like an election for "change" than "payback". Republicans are dropping like flies in the special elections going on right now. I really believe the Republican party will disintegrate into a fringe right wing party of little significance in the future.
 Quoting: The Monk 274840

A lot of us thought the same thing after Nixon/Watergate. It didn't happen because the Dims are just as corruptable, and certainly no smarter. I fear for my country.

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