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Jun 10, 2008 12:42 | Updated Jun 11, 2008 13:38
Security cabinet rules out Gaza operation for time being
By HERB KEINON

The long-delayed decision whether to accept an Egyptian-brokered cease fire with Hamas or step up military operations against the Gaza Strip came before the security cabinet on Wednesday, and despite reports that a majority of ministers favored tough military action, the decision was to give the cease fire talks more time.

The meeting was preceded by a Tuesday discussion between Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, and Defense Minister Ehud Barak in which the various scenarios were reportedly discussed.

IDF Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi and Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) chief Yuval Diskin also took part in that meeting, from which no details were provided.

One government source said that while Olmert and Livni favor stepped-up military action before agreeing to a cease fire, Barak wants to send his top adviser Amos Gilad back to Egypt one more time for additional clarifications before taking action.

Although technically Olmert, Barak and Livni could take action on their own without seeking approval from the security cabinet, the source said that in the current political climate, where whatever decision Olmert takes would be criticized as having been influenced by his legal and political problems, he wanted the decision to have the backing of the security cabinet.

A number of cabinet ministers came out in favor of a widespread action before Tuesday's weekly cabinet meeting, with Construction and Housing Minister Ze'ev Boim, a close Olmert ally, saying "Israel must launch an operation against Hamas," adding that the country could not risk letting the Islamic group rearm itself "before the next round."

Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann advised the ministers at the cabinet meeting (held on Tuesday rather than Sunday because of the Shavuot holiday) against talking publicly about whether or not there would be an operation, saying that the constant discussion on the matter reminded him of how Hassidim "wait for the messiah."

Barak also advocated taking a much lower public profile on the matter.

"When the moment comes, we will act," he said.

"The defense establishment is dealing with it, and the ministers should listen to what is being said about what can, and cannot, be accomplished through the various actions."

Speaking to government ministers about the status of peace negotiations with the Palestinians, Olmert said that progress in the area was critically important now given the proximity of the US presidential elections.

"One thing is certain: This administration is especially friendly," the prime minister said.

"We cannot miss taking advantage of this opportunity. Therefore the element of time holds special importance. We must not lose this. [Things won't necessarily be the same] with the next government."

"We are working with the aim of advancement," Olmert told his ministers. "We don't yet have formal, written documents, but we're working with the intent of making progress towards building a foundation for a solution, within the framework of the time-frame we presented.

"Of course there are arguments, long discussions, but this issue is important for me."

Olmert and US President George W. Bush have both said they hoped that a framework agreement could be reached by the end of 2008.

"We don't know what will happen with the next US government," Olmert told the ministers.

"I am operating on the assumption that every American president will preserve the special friendship with Israel that is built on mutual values and interests."

Olmert said, without elaborating, that there are various mutual commitments with the current administration that may not "roll over" to the next administration.

Turning to the Syrian track, which is expected to resume with indirect talks in Turkey this week, Olmert told the cabinet he would have been happy had the announcement last month of indirect talks with the Syrians been accompanied by an expression of readiness on Lebanon's part to enter into bilateral talks with Israel as well.

"I see much advantage in that." Olmert said.

During the meeting, Olmert also took Transportation Minister Shaul Mofaz to task for his comments that Israel might attack Iran if it carried on with its nuclear weapons program, saying that in these matters there is need for a great deal of diplomatic action, "and as little talk as possible."

Olmert said that Iran featured prominently in his talks with Bush last week in Washington, and that there was "understanding, agreement and coordination" on this matter between Jerusalem and Washington.

"Every day that passes we are moving another step forward," Olmert said. "That doesn't mean that in a very short time it will be possible to overcome all the problems, but there are efforts, common thinking, determination, readiness, and agreement on the ways we need to act."


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I feel an obligation, in the spirit of never being completely one-sided on an issue, to ask a question:

If you guys lived in Israel, and had to deal with suicide bombers and rockets, etc, what would you do? What would your stance be?
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I feel an obligation, in the spirit of never being completely one-sided on an issue, to ask a question:

If you guys lived in Israel, and had to deal with suicide bombers and rockets, etc, what would you do? What would your stance be?
 Quoting: markusmaximus



To simply follow the many UN resolutions and agreements and institute the two state solution...

An independent Pali state with no checkpoints, no settlements, no daily harassment, and an independent Israel.

At this point it is the ONLY solution that holds even the slightest hope at all of stopping this shit.
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I feel an obligation, in the spirit of never being completely one-sided on an issue, to ask a question:

If you guys lived in Israel, and had to deal with suicide bombers and rockets, etc, what would you do? What would your stance be?



To simply follow the many UN resolutions and agreements and institute the two state solution...

An independent Pali state with no checkpoints, no settlements, no daily harassment, and an independent Israel.

At this point it is the ONLY solution that holds even the slightest hope at all of stopping this shit.
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Are there assurances that the Arab side will cease hostilities?
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Are there assurances that the Arab side will cease hostilities?
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I've gotta admit: I'm a little concerned by the silence to this question...
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I feel an obligation, in the spirit of never being completely one-sided on an issue, to ask a question:

If you guys lived in Israel, and had to deal with suicide bombers and rockets, etc, what would you do? What would your stance be?

Practice some sincere humility. But is that in Israel's nature? Not so likely as I perceive things. It works both ways incidently.



To simply follow the many UN resolutions and agreements and institute the two state solution...

An independent Pali state with no checkpoints, no settlements, no daily harassment, and an independent Israel.

At this point it is the ONLY solution that holds even the slightest hope at all of stopping this shit.


Are there assurances that the Arab side will cease hostilities?

No. But you have to try them out on that. This is 2 WAY STREET. And, like Rome, it was not created in a day.
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Are there assurances that the Arab side will cease hostilities?


I've gotta admit: I'm a little concerned by the silence to this question...
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I just didn't see it...

But how the hell can anyone answer that question, it is an unknown, and that is part of the problem...

The truth is that Israel has NEVER tried to uphold a two state solution, and have disregarded every attempt to make peace...settlement building started the day the first Israeli boot touched soil and has never stopped.

So how do we know what would happen?

I'm with Jimmy Carter on this one...pull out the settlements, end the harrassment, and give them a chance...these people are desperate, and they have nothing to live for under the Israeli boot...

Life is a daily hell for these people, what incentive do they have while Israel is still occupying them to end hostilities.

It's my opinion that they just don't care anymore, either would I...If my country were being occupied by a beligerent outside force bent on destroying me and my family I would never stop fighting.

I can sympathize with them.
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If you guys lived in Israel, and had to deal with suicide bombers and rockets, etc, what would you do? What would your stance be?

Practice some sincere humility. But is that in Israel's nature? Not so likely as I perceive things. It works both ways incidently.

Are there assurances that the Arab side will cease hostilities?

No. But you have to try them out on that. This is 2 WAY STREET. And, like Rome, it was not created in a day.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 404050


Good answers. I wonder if something like this could ever be tried?

I mean, there's no erasing the past and the lives that have been taken on both sides.

But what IF the parties were able to come together and begin talking? Just talking.

You cannot pave the road to diplomacy without first talking!!!

The United States, as the most influential and affluent nation on earth, bears the RESPONSIBILITY to set the example in this regard!!!

I am not supporting any one particular US candidate, but anyone who opposes even SPEAKING with an enemy should NEVER be allowed executive control of a military. Especially one as large and advanced as the US military.

At least the Israelis are extending the cease fire talks here!
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I just didn't see it...

But how the hell can anyone answer that question, it is an unknown, and that is part of the problem...

The truth is that Israel has NEVER tried to uphold a two state solution, and have disregarded every attempt to make peace...settlement building started the day the first Israeli boot touched soil and has never stopped.

So how do we know what would happen?

I'm with Jimmy Carter on this one...pull out the settlements, end the harrassment, and give them a chance...these people are desperate, and they have nothing to live for under the Israeli boot...

Life is a daily hell for these people, what incentive do they have while Israel is still occupying them to end hostilities.

It's my opinion that they just don't care anymore, either would I...If my country were being occupied by a beligerent outside force bent on destroying me and my family I would never stop fighting.

I can sympathize with them.
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It would be interesting if say, for one month, each side agreed not to use any military hostilities.

And during this month, the Israelis and the inhabitants of the Gaza area, were allowed to interact freely and openly.

The citizens of each side should be encouraged during this cease-fire time period to engage in commerce. Trade, food, work, necessities, etc.

Sometimes it feels that the international community should assist with such a project.
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I feel an obligation, in the spirit of never being completely one-sided on an issue, to ask a question:

If you guys lived in Israel, and had to deal with suicide bombers and rockets, etc, what would you do? What would your stance be?
 Quoting: markusmaximus
then ask yourself if your people had lived in a place for generations and some europeans came and said this is ours and commenced to start killing you off, how would you feel?
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It would be interesting if say, for one month, each side agreed not to use any military hostilities.

And during this month, the Israelis and the inhabitants of the Gaza area, were allowed to interact freely and openly.

The citizens of each side should be encouraged during this cease-fire time period to engage in commerce. Trade, food, work, necessities, etc.

Sometimes it feels that the international community should assist with such a project.
 Quoting: markusmaximus



But here's the problem with that...

You have Israeli checkpoint holding people daily for hours at a time, the Israeli's would have to abandon them...

You have Israeli troops in Palistinian lands protecting "the settlers", they would have to leave.

And you have over 200 "settlements", which are lands that the Jewish people have taken over and built houses on in Palestinian territory...


This would all have to end, and the Israeli's show no sign of wanting it to end...
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then ask yourself if your people had lived in a place for generations and some europeans came and said this is ours and commenced to start killing you off, how would you feel?
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I don't know. I'd have to find a Native American and ask that question.

Fact is: I'm of European descent and we displaced all the natural inhabitants of North America. That's nothing to be proud of.

But these are modern times, and we're supposed to learn from the mistakes of the past.

I stick by my earlier idea to give the citizens of the region the ability, without their leaders' interventions, to conduct life in an orderly manner. Just for a week or a month.

Sure, there will be disagreements. But that is a part of life.

I believe that the people of the region want peace. Factions of their governments and relgious institutions are at odds, not the people themselves.
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Also, THIS is the mentality of the Jewish settlers on Pali lands...


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How the hell can you reason with THAT???


And what people who see this clip never ask themselves is this...WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE CAMERA WASN'T THERE?

Why were these boys walking up to a Palestinian house away from the settlement anyway?

You know why?

To harass them, to curse and throw rocks at them, maybe even kill them, who knows?

Anything is possible with this kind of hatred running through peoples hearts...

Ask yourself...if you had to deal with these people on your property every day harassing you, wouldn't you be pissed?

And this is not isolated at all...


Look at this video of Jewish settlers stoning Christian aid workers while the IDF laughs it off...




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Do these LOOK like people who want "a peaceful solution"?



This is orcastrated land takeover, they bring all of the craziest MF'ers then can get, they plop them down on Pali lands and those people harass the shit out of them until the Pali's either leave, or fight back, which of course gets them killed...
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It would be interesting if say, for one month, each side agreed not to use any military hostilities.

And during this month, the Israelis and the inhabitants of the Gaza area, were allowed to interact freely and openly.

The citizens of each side should be encouraged during this cease-fire time period to engage in commerce. Trade, food, work, necessities, etc.

Sometimes it feels that the international community should assist with such a project.



But here's the problem with that...

You have Israeli checkpoint holding people daily for hours at a time, the Israeli's would have to abandon them...

You have Israeli troops in Palistinian lands protecting "the settlers", they would have to leave.

And you have over 200 "settlements", which are lands that the Jewish people have taken over and built houses on in Palestinian territory...


This would all have to end, and the Israeli's show no sign of wanting it to end...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449680


Alright, let's be solution oriented...

What if the Israelis and the Palestinians chose, say, 10,000 volunteers from each side and put them in their own settlement?

These volunteers would coexist for maybe 1 year. Each side would preemptively agree to a binding set of settlement laws, which would satisfy both Jewish and Muslim inhabitants.

I believe the earth would be surprised how much this could help.

After the initial settlement, others could be started, and could be better from the lessons learned and the relationships built.

What do you think???
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Also, THIS is the mentality of the Jewish settlers on Pali lands...


{youtube] [link to youtube.com]


[link to youtube.com]



How the hell can you reason with THAT???


And what people who see this clip never ask themselves is this...WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE CAMERA WASN'T THERE?

Why were these boys walking up to a Palestinian house away from the settlement anyway?

You know why?

To harass them, to curse and throw rocks at them, maybe even kill them, who knows?

Anything is possible with this kind of hatred running through peoples hearts...

Ask yourself...if you had to deal with these people on your property every day harassing you, wouldn't you be pissed?

And this is not isolated at all...


Look at this video of Jewish settlers stoning Christian aid workers while the IDF laughs it off...




[link to youtube.com]


Do these LOOK like people who want "a peaceful solution"?



This is orcastrated land takeover, they bring all of the craziest MF'ers then can get, they plop them down on Pali lands and those people harass the shit out of them until the Pali's either leave, or fight back, which of course gets them killed...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449680


Look, these kinds of incidents are horrible, but by no means unique to the Israelis, or the IDF.

People who know me know that I don't excuse the use of violence, ever.

This comparison could be made to the USA military and policies of torture, etc.

We are talking about SOLUTIONS here!

Peace can happen. But, as usual, the citizens of a nation often have to enact peace.
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then ask yourself if your people had lived in a place for generations and some europeans came and said this is ours and commenced to start killing you off, how would you feel?


I don't know. I'd have to find a Native American and ask that question.

Fact is: I'm of European descent and we displaced all the natural inhabitants of North America. That's nothing to be proud of.

But these are modern times, and we're supposed to learn from the mistakes of the past.

I stick by my earlier idea to give the citizens of the region the ability, without their leaders' interventions, to conduct life in an orderly manner. Just for a week or a month.

Sure, there will be disagreements. But that is a part of life.

I believe that the people of the region want peace. Factions of their governments and relgious institutions are at odds, not the people themselves.
 Quoting: markusmaximus




Yeah but Markus...the difference is WE STOPPED...

How would the natives feel if we were still running tanks through their reserves?

What we did to them is horrible, absolutly, however we seem to have come to AT LEAST SOME AGREEMENT WITH THEM...

They have land that they can own
They are exempt from some taxes
They can roam freely
They can work and join our society or they can stay on thier lands

What I am saying is that we have seemed to come to some PEACE TOGETHER, imagine if the natives here were forced to go through checkpoints every day, and the whites were harassing them and throwing stones at them on their own reserves?

What if I took 300 of my biggest buddies and went onto the Indian reserve with bulldozers and just started plowing their homes under and building a wal-mart and a suburb?

Don't you think the Cowboys vs. Indian days would come back to us real quick?

Wouldn't they fight back?

Wouldn't YOU?
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I feel an obligation, in the spirit of never being completely one-sided on an issue, to ask a question:

If you guys lived in Israel, and had to deal with suicide bombers and rockets, etc, what would you do? What would your stance be?



To simply follow the many UN resolutions and agreements and institute the two state solution...

An independent Pali state with no checkpoints, no settlements, no daily harassment, and an independent Israel.

At this point it is the ONLY solution that holds even the slightest hope at all of stopping this shit.


Are there assurances that the Arab side will cease hostilities?
 Quoting: markusmaximus

THAT'S THE PROBLEM

YOU OPEN BORDER, THEY START EXPLODE

YOU CLOSE BORDER, THEY START COMPLAINING

THEY CAN NOT EXPLODE
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Look, these kinds of incidents are horrible, but by no means unique to the Israelis, or the IDF.

People who know me know that I don't excuse the use of violence, ever.

This comparison could be made to the USA military and policies of torture, etc.

We are talking about SOLUTIONS here!

Peace can happen. But, as usual, the citizens of a nation often have to enact peace.
 Quoting: markusmaximus



But I just gave you a workable solution, TWO INDEPENDENT STATES, the Pali's agreed to it in the past, and there is no reason why it wouldn't work, EXCEPT THAT ISRAEL WILL NOT UN-OCCUPY THEIR LANDS.

Israel needs to pull these crazies out, and leave the Palestinians to lead their own lives in a state of their own with no "settlements", and stop the harassment.

That's it.

Hey, it might not work, but it's worth a try, and Israel has NEVER tried...

The truth of the situation in my mind is that Israel is the stronger power and they simply WANT THAT LAND, so they are trying to take it...

In other words they don't WANT peace...
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I don't know. I'd have to find a Native American and ask that question.

I believe that the people of the region want peace. Factions of their governments and relgious institutions are at odds, not the people themselves.
 Quoting: markusmaximus


The US military is not shooting Native American children, can you deny the deaths of children in Gaza? the Palestinians throw rocks and the Israeli answer is tanks. The Palestinians fire useless rockets ans the Israeli answer is laser guided munitions. Yet you cannot understand why these people are angry?
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
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PALESTINIANS AND THEIR STUPID PROPAGANDA

IT IS EVIDENT ARABS ARE PATHOLOGICAL LIARS



REPORT: 9-YEAR-OLD BOY SUFFERS HEAD INJURY AT ANTI-SECURITY FENCE RALLY
06.11.08, 13:00 / Israel News

Eight demonstrators, including a nine year old boy were injured Wednesday, during a rally protesting the construction of the security fence near the town of Naalin, west of the west bank city of Ramallah.

According to the demonstrators, IDF forces fired rubber-coated bullets into the crowd, injuring the protestors. The boy was taken to a nearby hospital suffering a head injury.

IDF LOOKING INTO REPORTS OF SOLDIERS WOUNDING BOY IN NAALIN RALLY
06.11.08, 13:36 / Israel News

The IDF said Wednesday it was looking into Palestinian reports that eight demonstrators, including a nine year old boy were injured during a rally protesting the construction of the security fence near the town of Naalin, west of the west bank city of Ramallah.

"We can only regret the fact that the people of Naalin choose to put children in the middle of a confrontation with IDF troops," a security source told Ynet. "Violent relies have been taking place in the area for the last two weeks, in which Palestinians and left-wing activists stone IDF soldiers," he added.

IDF INSPECTION: WOUNDED IN NAALIN IS 14.5-YEARS-OLD
06.11.08, 15:09 / Israel News

The IDF’s examination of the Naalin events during which a Palestinian youth was injured, show that the wounded was a 14.5-year-old teen and not a 9-year-old boy as was previously reported.
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Yeah but Markus...the difference is WE STOPPED...

How would the natives feel if we were still running tanks through their reserves?

What we did to them is horrible, absolutly, however we seem to have come to AT LEAST SOME AGREEMENT WITH THEM...

They have land that they can own
They are exempt from some taxes
They can roam freely
They can work and join our society or they can stay on thier lands

What I am saying is that we have seemed to come to some PEACE TOGETHER, imagine if the natives here were forced to go through checkpoints every day, and the whites were harassing them and throwing stones at them on their own reserves?

What if I took 300 of my biggest buddies and went onto the Indian reserve with bulldozers and just started plowing their homes under and building a wal-mart and a suburb?

Don't you think the Cowboys vs. Indian days would come back to us real quick?

Wouldn't they fight back?

Wouldn't YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449680


Perhaps the difference between Native Americans and the Muslims is the Muslims feel some kind of strength in their numbers: 1.3billion worldwide. Native Americans never had that feeling. And they were decimated as a population. You're correct, we gave them reservations and tax breaks, but at what cost to them? Their entire way of life is practically gone.

Perhaps the difference between the Muslims in Gaza and the Native Americans is that the Muslims simply won't ever stop. Their religion is a driving force in this situation, and they feel protected and justified by God. The Native American strategy never included martyrdom. It is a fundamental difference between the groups.

I am not saying the Palestinians shouldn't fight back. If my family were in danger, I'd fight too.

However, I am more interested in solutions, not retaliation. Sometime, somewhere, someBODY has got to stand up and say, "The old ways are not working!!!"

New approaches must be offered up. By both sides.

Again, I reiterate my desire for the international community at large to offer unique solutions.

It is very rare that the military option ever solves anything.

I know that the people, not their governments, are willing to try something different simply to live in peace.
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I don't know. I'd have to find a Native American and ask that question.

I believe that the people of the region want peace. Factions of their governments and relgious institutions are at odds, not the people themselves.


The US military is not shooting Native American children, can you deny the deaths of children in Gaza? the Palestinians throw rocks and the Israeli answer is tanks. The Palestinians fire useless rockets ans the Israeli answer is laser guided munitions. Yet you cannot understand why these people are angry?
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

10 YEARS AGO IDF STARTED STONING ARABS

BECAUSE ARABS WERE STONING IDF SOLDIERS.

BUNCH OF ARABS WAS INJURED.

ARABS WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

HOW TO ANSWER THEM?
Prof_Rabbit

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06/11/2008 11:34 AM
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Re: LAST CHANCE" Israel strives for truce; preparing for Gaza op"
What about this one


"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
Anonymous Coward
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06/11/2008 11:38 AM
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Re: LAST CHANCE" Israel strives for truce; preparing for Gaza op"
Should have never given back the occupied territories.Israel conquered them fairly. End of story.
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06/11/2008 11:39 AM
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I don't know. I'd have to find a Native American and ask that question.

I believe that the people of the region want peace. Factions of their governments and relgious institutions are at odds, not the people themselves.


The US military is not shooting Native American children, can you deny the deaths of children in Gaza? the Palestinians throw rocks and the Israeli answer is tanks. The Palestinians fire useless rockets ans the Israeli answer is laser guided munitions. Yet you cannot understand why these people are angry?
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


No no no...I DO understand why they are angry.

What I am saying is: Don't you think it's about time to try something different???

How long can one side set roadblocks, one side shoot rockets, one side use tanks, one side use suicide bombers?

It's madness on both sides! How many times do you have to smash your head into a brick wall until you figure out that the wall isn't going anywhere?? And that the best, smartest decision would be to circumvent the wall altogether???

No, the US military is no longer shooting Native Americans. But they did. Now look at their situation.

(OT: What the HELL is it about Americans that they can't see history??? There was a world prior to the year 2000, ya know!)
Prof_Rabbit

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Re: LAST CHANCE" Israel strives for truce; preparing for Gaza op"
10 YEARS AGO IDF STARTED STONING ARABS

BECAUSE ARABS WERE STONING IDF SOLDIERS.

BUNCH OF ARABS WAS INJURED.

ARABS WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

HOW TO ANSWER THEM?

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