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Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?

 
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Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
It's so cheap! I could store a years worth of food for a fraction of the cost it would take other foods.

Why doesn't everyone just store 10 cases of ramen as a safety net?
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06/11/2008 11:49 AM
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
10 CASES OF RAMEN WON'T LAST A MONTH IF YOU HAVE KIDS.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
NO it has 0 nutritional value. You may feel full but you're still starving.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
If you are poor its a very good option, but dont foget the water and heat needed to make it.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Ramen has 0 nutritional value & you'll be hungry 10 minutes after finishing it.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
too much sodium in the broth packet. dehydration comes faster, and if water is scarce: not good.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Well it depends if you like to consume food that has MSG in it. I have Ramen, and don't use the packets of MSG to it.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
except for the fact you need water for it .....if you are tyring to limit your water useage from your water supply...you may want to consider a stockpile of canned broth for your ramen.
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can goods cereals saltine crackers check dates ..olive oil in place sardines tunas paperproducts throw away wipes paper plates cups.u can line cups with saran wrap .then toss saran wrap..meds juices fruits in cans..etc.tea lite candles are easy to transport and last 3 or 4 hours...flash light batteries.a month supply if possible..
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?


Yes, use the noodles for filler

(like hamburger helper) add it
to soups, stews and any other
pan food that requires some water.

The packets are crap but use sparingly
as flavoring for other bland supplies..


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06/11/2008 12:21 PM
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Yes, use the noodles for filler

(like hamburger helper) add it
to soups, stews and any other
pan food that requires some water.

The packets are crap but use sparingly
as flavoring for other bland supplies..


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06/11/2008 12:22 PM
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Better off stocking up on SlimFast products!
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
When tshtf....

1 pack of ramen = 1 oz of silver...

I got pallets of the stuff...
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06/11/2008 12:25 PM
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Stock up on anything you want. When TSHTF and they nuke your city, it will be worthless anyway.

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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Not much nutritional value, and also they have an expiation date, so unless your willing to eat them now and not just for back up food, I wouldn't bother.
You'll have to rotate your supply, I think most canned goods last longer.
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06/11/2008 12:34 PM
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Better off stocking up on SlimFast products!
 Quoting: Sireen-reborn

Actually good idea - and other liguid nutritional supplements like Boost.

If water is not an issue - the powder weight GAIN products will be useful.

To store water - every time you empty a bleach bottle, fill it to the top with water 1x and dump it. Fill it again and cap it. Mark it WATER. Good for almost ever! Want a never ending supply of empty bleach bottles? Go to your local laundry mat.
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06/11/2008 12:36 PM
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
TOO MUCH MSG
this will mess up your ability to think as an individual
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06/11/2008 12:41 PM
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
TOO MUCH MSG
this will mess up your ability to think as an individual
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Do you really believe that?

Or are you so weak minded that you will blame it on anything?

Msg isn't good for you, but its not some kind of fucking LSD
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Thread: Can you live off of Raman Noodles?
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
It is non-food. Don't bother with it now or for stockpiling.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
TOO MUCH MSG
this will mess up your ability to think as an individual


Do you really believe that?

Or are you so weak minded that you will blame it on anything?

Msg isn't good for you, but its not some kind of fucking LSD
 Quoting: Coward 66457

if you knew me that would be that last thing you would say about me

blame your anger on yourself

i dont play that game hf
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06/11/2008 01:04 PM
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
NO it has 0 nutritional value. You may feel full but you're still starving.
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Absolutely true. It will actually take away nutrients already in your body just to digest the crap. You would be better off just having water and a toothpick.

Here is a decent article, but it slanted against eating wheat for health reasons. It does explain however, the problem with eating less than nutritious food. I would consider ramen one of those.

"A large proportion of essential vitamins and minerals are removed from the food in the refining process, which creates white flour and sugar. Furthermore, vitamins and minerals are leached from your body’s stores upon consumption of carbohydrates such as white flour and sugar as they are required for their metabolism. Chromium, zinc and folic acid are the main nutrients lost. Gluten clogs the intestinal wall, reducing its ability to absorb nutrients."

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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Ramen is even worse the Kraft Mac and cheese when it comes to health (bad) and nutritional value (practically none).

If you want carbs, I'd suggest rice; it'll keep a lot longer, has more nutritional value per volume, and, assuming you have enough water, is a great staple. I personally prefer whole-grain rice mix, but it does take longer to cook, which means you'd have to increase you energy (charcoal) stockpile. But for a pretty good meal, I'd just take two cups of water, two bullion cubes, a teaspoon of olive oil, heat it to boiling (which ensures that the giardia or most other bugs aren't going to get you), put in a cup of plain white rice, low-boil for 25-30 minutes and you have a hell of a lot more healthy meal that you would from ramen. And all of that stuff: rice, olive oil, bullion -- has an incredible shelf life and you'll be able to rotate it, since most people eat that stuff all the time anyway.


Not only that, but you can mix a lot of cooked vegetables with the rice to provide even more nutrition. Add some legumes (dried beans, which also have a great shelf life) to the mix and you have the protein as well.

If you want meat which is already cooked and has a great shelf life, you'll undoubtedly be getting all the sodium you'd need and then some; I wouldn't add more just for the ramen.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
In hot humid weather, the ramen noodles don't keep.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
can goods cereals saltine crackers check dates ..olive oil in place sardines tunas paperproducts throw away wipes paper plates cups.u can line cups with saran wrap .then toss saran wrap..meds juices fruits in cans..etc.tea lite candles are easy to transport and last 3 or 4 hours...flash light batteries.a month supply if possible..
 Quoting: anonomous 449979

Get one of the hand crank flashlights and radios. No batteries ever needed and they last forever.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Ramen is even worse the Kraft Mac and cheese when it comes to health (bad) and nutritional value (practically none).

If you want carbs, I'd suggest rice; it'll keep a lot longer, has more nutritional value per volume, and, assuming you have enough water, is a great staple. I personally prefer whole-grain rice mix, but it does take longer to cook, which means you'd have to increase you energy (charcoal) stockpile. But for a pretty good meal, I'd just take two cups of water, two bullion cubes, a teaspoon of olive oil, heat it to boiling (which ensures that the giardia or most other bugs aren't going to get you), put in a cup of plain white rice, low-boil for 25-30 minutes and you have a hell of a lot more healthy meal that you would from ramen. And all of that stuff: rice, olive oil, bullion -- has an incredible shelf life and you'll be able to rotate it, since most people eat that stuff all the time anyway.


Not only that, but you can mix a lot of cooked vegetables with the rice to provide even more nutrition. Add some legumes (dried beans, which also have a great shelf life) to the mix and you have the protein as well.

If you want meat which is already cooked and has a great shelf life, you'll undoubtedly be getting all the sodium you'd need and then some; I wouldn't add more just for the ramen.
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz



I would also like to add that for beans and rice that would take a lot more energy to cook, the op might want to think about a thermal cooker. [link to www.google.com]
Basically, you heat up everything to boiling (or cook about 1/3 of the time required) and then put it into the insulated tub and let it keep cooking for 4-6 hrs (without using fuel).
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
It's so cheap! I could store a years worth of food for a fraction of the cost it would take other foods.

Why doesn't everyone just store 10 cases of ramen as a safety net?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449980


I've been trying to tell people this. In a survival situation the issue is light weight and high calorie-density, not nutrition. For nutrition take a vitamin pill, but for light weight calorie density nothing beats ramen noodles. They do NOT have to be rehydrated, lots of people snack on them dry. The only thing is read the label, only buy the one with no msg in the noodle itself, and discard the msg packets.

i recommend 'Emergen-C' vitamin packets too
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
I would also like to add that for beans and rice that would take a lot more energy to cook, the op might want to think about a thermal cooker. [link to www.google.com]
Basically, you heat up everything to boiling (or cook about 1/3 of the time required) and then put it into the insulated tub and let it keep cooking for 4-6 hrs (without using fuel).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 434204

Excellent point.

However, I have been using a somewhat similar system for a lot of cooking recently (not that I have to, it's just more fun to do so), and that is dutch oven cookware.

Since the dutch oven is cast iron, it has a tremendous "thermal mass coefficient"; best of all, you can adjust the heat (just by the number and location of the charcoal briquettes) quite accurately.

The downside, of course, is that you can never NEVER NEVER cook indoors, or else you will die, because charcoal produces a lot of CO in addition to heat.

I have three Lodge DOs and I think that four 25-pound bags of Kingsford charcoal will provide enough energy to cook food for a family of four for two or three months.

And, of course, charcoal has a pretty good shelf life, too, as long as you don't let it get rained on or anything like that.

The Dutch Oven is the Official Cookware of the State of Utah.

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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Better off stocking up on SlimFast products!

Actually good idea - and other liguid nutritional supplements like Boost.
 Quoting: UE 286811


lousey idea if you need to bug out carrying it instead of water.
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
Rice and beans waste drinking water and fuel both, and take hours to soak and cook, and anyone storing them as a survival choice for a scenario where water and fuel will be scarce is a complete dumbass.


I would also like to add that for beans and rice that would take a lot more energy to cook, the op might want to think about a thermal cooker. [link to www.google.com]
Basically, you heat up everything to boiling (or cook about 1/3 of the time required) and then put it into the insulated tub and let it keep cooking for 4-6 hrs (without using fuel).
Excellent point.

However, I have been using a somewhat similar system for a lot of cooking recently (not that I have to, it's just more fun to do so), and that is dutch oven cookware.

Since the dutch oven is cast iron, it has a tremendous "thermal mass coefficient"; best of all, you can adjust the heat (just by the number and location of the charcoal briquettes) quite accurately.

The downside, of course, is that you can never NEVER NEVER cook indoors, or else you will die, because charcoal produces a lot of CO in addition to heat.

I have three Lodge DOs and I think that four 25-pound bags of Kingsford charcoal will provide enough energy to cook food for a family of four for two or three months.

And, of course, charcoal has a pretty good shelf life, too, as long as you don't let it get rained on or anything like that.

The Dutch Oven is the Official Cookware of the State of Utah.

CTR!

[link to secure.lodgemfg.com (secure)]

[link to secure.lodgemfg.com (secure)]

[link to papadutch.home.comcast.net]
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz
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Re: Is ramen good to stockpile for a tshtf scenario?
When tshtf....

1 pack of ramen = 1 oz of silver...

I got pallets of the stuff...
 Quoting: Udon Soba 317540


One pallet of Ramen at cost = less than a hundred bucks. But fuck buying anything - when tshtf I'll likely crash a truck through the fence and throw up one of the loading doors of the Walmart Grocery Distribution center I used to do inventory at. Pallets of water will be like gold.

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