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Why did the U.S. fight the Japanese in World War II?

 
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Why did the U.S. fight the Japanese in World War II?
Have you ever thought about the utter insanity of the U.S. government drafting young men and sending them to fight in the jungles of ASIA in World War II?
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Have you ever thought about the utter insanity of the U.S. government drafting young men and sending them to fight in the jungles of ASIA in World War II?
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Something to do with Pearl Harbor. i'm sure. Unless you went to a public school where the history you learn is a bit different from what actualy happened.
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Have you ever thought about the utter insanity of the U.S. government drafting young men and sending them to fight in the jungles of ASIA in World War II?
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BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED USA.

R U REALLY SO STUPID?

DID YOU EXPECTED AFTER JAPS ATTACKED

PEARL HARBOR USA WILL SAY

"THANK YOU FOR BOMBING US - CAN YOU DO IT AGAIN?"
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read about what Japan did to China
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Re: Why did the U.S. fight the Japanese in World War II?
Hey, simpletons...try Googling!
Here's Pat Buchanan's version

Why Did Japan Attack Us?

Patrick J. Buchanan

12/11/01

Of all the days that will "live in infamy" in American history, two stand out: Sept. 11, 2001, and Dec. 7, 1941.

But why did Japan, with a 10th of our industrial power, launch a sneak attack on the U.S. fleet at Pearl Harbor, an act of state terror that must ignite a war to the death it could not win? Were they insane? No, the Japanese were desperate.

To understand why Japan lashed out, we must go back to World War I. Japan had been our ally. But when she tried to collect her share of the booty at Versailles, she ran into an obdurate Woodrow Wilson.

Wilson rejected Japan's claim to German concessions in Shantung, home of Confucius, which Japan had captured at a price in blood. Tokyo threatened a walkout if denied what she had been promised by the British. "They are not bluffing," warned Wilson, as he capitulated. "We gave them what they should not have."

In 1921, at the Washington Naval Conference, the United States pressured the British to end their 20-year alliance with Japan. By appeasing the Americans, the British enraged and alienated a proud nation that had been a loyal friend.

Japan was now isolated, with Stalin's brooding empire to the north, a rising China to the east and, to the south, Western imperial powers that detested and distrusted her.

When civil war broke out in China, Japan in 1931 occupied Manchuria as a buffer state. This was the way the Europeans had collected their empires. Yet, the West was "shocked, shocked" that Japan would embark upon a course of "aggression." Said one Japanese diplomat, "Just when we learn how to play poker, they change the game to bridge."

Japan now decided to create in China what the British had in India – a vast colony to exploit that would place her among the world powers. In 1937, after a clash at Marco Polo Bridge near Peking, Japan invaded and, after four years of fighting, including the horrific Rape of Nanking, Japan controlled the coastal cities, but not the interior.

When France capitulated in June 1940, Japan moved into northern French Indochina. And though the United States had no interest there, we imposed an embargo on steel and scrap metal. After Hitler invaded Russia in June 1941, Japan moved into southern Indochina. FDR ordered all Japanese assets frozen.

But FDR did not want to cut off oil. As he told his Cabinet on July 18, an embargo meant war, for that would force oil-starved Japan to seize the oil fields of the Dutch East Indies. But a State Department lawyer named Dean Acheson drew up the sanctions in such a way as to block any Japanese purchases of U.S. oil. By the time FDR found out, in September, he could not back down.

Tokyo was now split between a War Party and a Peace Party, with the latter in power. Prime Minister Konoye called in Ambassador Joseph Grew and secretly offered to meet FDR in Juneau or anywhere in the Pacific. According to Grew, Konoye was willing to give up Indochina and China, except a buffer region in the north to protect her from Stalin, in return for the U.S. brokering a peace with China and opening up the oil pipeline. Konoye told Grew that Emperor Hirohito knew of his initiative and was ready to give the order for Japan's retreat.

Fearful of a "second Munich," America spurned the offer. Konoye fell from power and was replaced by Hideki Tojo. Still, war was not inevitable. U.S. diplomats prepared to offer Japan a "modus vivendi." If Japan withdrew from southern Indochina, the United States would partially lift the oil embargo. But Chiang Kai-shek became "hysterical," and his American adviser, one Owen Lattimore, intervened to abort the proposal.

Facing a choice between death of the empire or fighting for its life, Japan decided to seize the oil fields of the Indies. And the only force capable of interfering was the U.S. fleet that FDR had conveniently moved from San Diego out to Honolulu.

And so Japan attacked. And so she was crushed and forced out of Vietnam, out of China, out of Manchuria. And so they fell to Stalin, Mao and Ho Chi Minh. And so it was that American boys, not Japanese boys, would die fighting Koreans, Chinese and Vietnamese to try to block the aggressions of a barbaric Asian communism.

Now Japan is disarmed and China is an Asian giant whose military boasts of pushing the Americans back across the Pacific. Had FDR met Prince Konoye, there might have been no Pearl Harbor, no Pacific war, no Hiroshima, no Nagasaki, no Korea, no Vietnam. How many of our fathers and uncles, brothers and friends, might still be alive?

"For of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: 'It might have been.'" A few thoughts as the War Party pounds the drum for an all-out American war on Iraq and radical Islam.
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Re: Why did the U.S. fight the Japanese in World War II?
The attack was not a surprise to anyone with half a brain...

The US cracked japanese code transmissions months prior to Pearl Harbor. FDR needed Japan to attack the US in order to convince Americans to get involved in Europe, which, there was no intention to do.

No one gave much a care about europes little problem in Adolf. Unfortunatly, alot of his funding came from the US also and US was on the bill to help out europe. It was part of the deal to make a reason to control all of europe AFTER Hitler demolished everything ...

checkmate.
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The attack was not a surprise to anyone with half a brain...

The US cracked japanese code transmissions months prior to Pearl Harbor. FDR needed Japan to attack the US in order to convince Americans to get involved in Europe, which, there was no intention to do.

No one gave much a care about europes little problem in Adolf. Unfortunatly, alot of his funding came from the US also and US was on the bill to help out europe. It was part of the deal to make a reason to control all of europe AFTER Hitler demolished everything ...

checkmate.
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BINGO!

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The attack was not a surprise to anyone with half a brain...

The US cracked japanese code transmissions months prior to Pearl Harbor. FDR needed Japan to attack the US in order to convince Americans to get involved in Europe, which, there was no intention to do.

No one gave much a care about europes little problem in Adolf. Unfortunatly, alot of his funding came from the US also and US was on the bill to help out europe. It was part of the deal to make a reason to control all of europe AFTER Hitler demolished everything ...

checkmate.

BINGO!

Someone who isn't a goddamn sheep
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Back at ya man , stay up!
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Re: Why did the U.S. fight the Japanese in World War II?
There was a Japanese invasion force in Alaska.

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The attack was not a surprise to anyone with half a brain...

The US cracked japanese code transmissions months prior to Pearl Harbor. FDR needed Japan to attack the US in order to convince Americans to get involved in Europe, which, there was no intention to do.

No one gave much a care about europes little problem in Adolf. Unfortunatly, alot of his funding came from the US also and US was on the bill to help out europe. It was part of the deal to make a reason to control all of europe AFTER Hitler demolished everything ...

checkmate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376019

Yes us mean old Americans force Japan to attack us. Then knowing all about the coming attack days,weeks, months in advance we lined up all of our ships that we would be needing after words. For any war we would be having with Japan. So they could bomb them a sink them all. Not only killing off 1000s of the troops and sailors we were going to be needing in any war. But giving Japan a huge head start in the war. All so we could get into the war in Europe.

Yeah and no one in America cared much about what was going on in the war in Europe. Its not like any of us knew anyone one over there. Or like most of us came from any of the countrys over there. Yeah we didnt care much at all.
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The attack was not a surprise to anyone with half a brain...

The US cracked japanese code transmissions months prior to Pearl Harbor. FDR needed Japan to attack the US in order to convince Americans to get involved in Europe, which, there was no intention to do.

No one gave much a care about europes little problem in Adolf. Unfortunatly, alot of his funding came from the US also and US was on the bill to help out europe. It was part of the deal to make a reason to control all of europe AFTER Hitler demolished everything ...

checkmate.

BINGO!

Someone who isn't a goddamn sheep


Back at ya man , stay up!
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The attack was not a surprise to anyone with half a brain...

The US cracked japanese code transmissions months prior to Pearl Harbor. FDR needed Japan to attack the US in order to convince Americans to get involved in Europe, which, there was no intention to do.

No one gave much a care about europes little problem in Adolf. Unfortunatly, alot of his funding came from the US also and US was on the bill to help out europe. It was part of the deal to make a reason to control all of europe AFTER Hitler demolished everything ...

checkmate.

Yes us mean old Americans force Japan to attack us. Then knowing all about the coming attack days,weeks, months in advance we lined up all of our ships that we would be needing after words. For any war we would be having with Japan. So they could bomb them a sink them all. Not only killing off 1000s of the troops and sailors we were going to be needing in any war. But giving Japan a huge head start in the war. All so we could get into the war in Europe.

Yeah and no one in America cared much about what was going on in the war in Europe. Its not like any of us knew anyone one over there. Or like most of us came from any of the countrys over there. Yeah we didnt care much at all.
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But, weren't the ships that got destroyed at PH mostly junk, and headed for the scrapheap anyway?

Fuck the personnel, they're always disposable.

I know that because Henry the K. Kissinger said so.
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But, weren't the ships that got destroyed at PH mostly junk, and headed for the scrapheap anyway?

Fuck the personnel, they're always disposable.

I know that because Henry the K. Kissinger said so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 451914

Yes, the ships destroyed were all outdated. The South Dakota class, Washington class, and Iowa class battleships were all already under construction or completed, as well as the new aircraft carriers that would make even those battleships obsolete.
We really lost very little of value at Pearl Harbor. (militarily speaking)

But it was a good excuse to sway the minds of the sheeple.
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have you ever thought of the stupidity of not responding when another country directly bombs and attacks you? guess we should've just laid down and died. who cares about those innocent brave AMERICAN men bombed in Pearl Harbor? who cares about the Chinese being raped and slaughtered? just let it go...idiotic rabble rousing here I think.

"Don't start nuthin, won't be nuthin."
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But, weren't the ships that got destroyed at PH mostly junk, and headed for the scrapheap anyway?

Fuck the personnel, they're always disposable.

I know that because Henry the K. Kissinger said so.

Yes, the ships destroyed were all outdated. The South Dakota class, Washington class, and Iowa class battleships were all already under construction or completed, as well as the new aircraft carriers that would make even those battleships obsolete.
We really lost very little of value at Pearl Harbor. (militarily speaking)

But it was a good excuse to sway the minds of the sheeple.
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Sheeple? So you don't think the war was justified? Sheesh..
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Re: Why did the U.S. fight the Japanese in World War II?

But, weren't the ships that got destroyed at PH mostly junk, and headed for the scrapheap anyway?

Fuck the personnel, they're always disposable.

I know that because Henry the K. Kissinger said so.

Yes, the ships destroyed were all outdated. The South Dakota class, Washington class, and Iowa class battleships were all already under construction or completed, as well as the new aircraft carriers that would make even those battleships obsolete.
We really lost very little of value at Pearl Harbor. (militarily speaking)

But it was a good excuse to sway the minds of the sheeple.
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notice all the aircraft carriers were far to the South and East of Pearl. That was no accident! Let them sink the junk, make sure the state of the art stuff stays safe!
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Because by siding with Hitler and the Nazis the World War 2 Japanese were just as guilty of the blood of the Jews as Hitler was.
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Have you ever thought about the utter insanity of the U.S. government drafting young men and sending them to fight in the jungles of ASIA in World War II?

BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED USA.

R U REALLY SO STUPID?

DID YOU EXPECTED AFTER JAPS ATTACKED

PEARL HARBOR USA WILL SAY

"THANK YOU FOR BOMBING US - CAN YOU DO IT AGAIN?"

 Quoting: jarha

I wholeheartedly agree with what Jarha said!
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have you ever thought of the stupidity of not responding when another country directly bombs and attacks you? guess we should've just laid down and died. who cares about those innocent brave AMERICAN men bombed in Pearl Harbor? who cares about the Chinese being raped and slaughtered? just let it go...idiotic rabble rousing here I think.

"Don't start nuthin, won't be nuthin."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 441652

Which part of "orchestrated" escapes your understanding? American military intelligence had full knowledge of the attack before hand. Much like they had full foreknowledge of 9/11.

These things are allowed to happen in order to start the wars in the first place. And it is never for the reason stated.
WWII was nothing more than a money making scheme orchestrated by the bankster families of Europe to further indebt the world to them, America financed Hitler's military buildup through the Union banking corporation and the Federal reserve, and American industrial corporations made huge profits supplying materials and resources to BOTH sides of the conflict.
So while you are blindly accepting the mainstream version of history you might want to open your eyes to reality.

The war in the M.E. is doing the same thing. Installing western style banks under the control of the banksters is a top priority, which was what Bush really meant when he said "mission accomplished".
And right now I would be willing to bet Ahmedinejad is being forced into bed with those same banksters as he scrambles to build up his own military in response to US saber rattling in the region.
Nothing is ever as it is portrayed when dealing with the banksters.
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Because by siding with Hitler and the Nazis the World War 2 Japanese were just as guilty of the blood of the Jews as Hitler was.
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We allied with Stalin and Mao during WW II and therefore are culpable of the 150 million people that they murdered?

Yes, Rumania, Italy, Vichy France, finland, Slovakia, Hungary, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Bulgaria which allied with Germany could be considered partially culpable.
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The total brutality of the Japanese in China should make you sick.
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have you ever thought of the stupidity of not responding when another country directly bombs and attacks you? guess we should've just laid down and died. who cares about those innocent brave AMERICAN men bombed in Pearl Harbor? who cares about the Chinese being raped and slaughtered? just let it go...idiotic rabble rousing here I think.

"Don't start nuthin, won't be nuthin."

Which part of "orchestrated" escapes your understanding? American military intelligence had full knowledge of the attack before hand. Much like they had full foreknowledge of 9/11.

These things are allowed to happen in order to start the wars in the first place. And it is never for the reason stated.
WWII was nothing more than a money making scheme orchestrated by the bankster families of Europe to further indebt the world to them, America financed Hitler's military buildup through the Union banking corporation and the Federal reserve, and American industrial corporations made huge profits supplying materials and resources to BOTH sides of the conflict.
So while you are blindly accepting the mainstream version of history you might want to open your eyes to reality.

The war in the M.E. is doing the same thing. Installing western style banks under the control of the banksters is a top priority, which was what Bush really meant when he said "mission accomplished".
And right now I would be willing to bet Ahmedinejad is being forced into bed with those same banksters as he scrambles to build up his own military in response to US saber rattling in the region.
Nothing is ever as it is portrayed when dealing with the banksters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450776

You and the rest of these correspondance school historians have been watching too many 'Fractured Fairy Tales!'
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Have you ever thought about the utter insanity of the U.S. government drafting young men and sending them to fight in the jungles of ASIA in World War II?

BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED USA.

R U REALLY SO STUPID?

DID YOU EXPECTED AFTER JAPS ATTACKED

PEARL HARBOR USA WILL SAY

"THANK YOU FOR BOMBING US - CAN YOU DO IT AGAIN?"

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Jesus said to turn the other cheek. look how many were lost due to the American Ego.
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have you ever thought of the stupidity of not responding when another country directly bombs and attacks you? guess we should've just laid down and died. who cares about those innocent brave AMERICAN men bombed in Pearl Harbor? who cares about the Chinese being raped and slaughtered? just let it go...idiotic rabble rousing here I think.

"Don't start nuthin, won't be nuthin."

Which part of "orchestrated" escapes your understanding? American military intelligence had full knowledge of the attack before hand. Much like they had full foreknowledge of 9/11.

These things are allowed to happen in order to start the wars in the first place. And it is never for the reason stated.
WWII was nothing more than a money making scheme orchestrated by the bankster families of Europe to further indebt the world to them, America financed Hitler's military buildup through the Union banking corporation and the Federal reserve, and American industrial corporations made huge profits supplying materials and resources to BOTH sides of the conflict.
So while you are blindly accepting the mainstream version of history you might want to open your eyes to reality.

The war in the M.E. is doing the same thing. Installing western style banks under the control of the banksters is a top priority, which was what Bush really meant when he said "mission accomplished".
And right now I would be willing to bet Ahmedinejad is being forced into bed with those same banksters as he scrambles to build up his own military in response to US saber rattling in the region.
Nothing is ever as it is portrayed when dealing with the banksters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 450776


You've hit the nail on the head, exactly. Open your eyes, war-mongering non-combatant idiots.
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You and the rest of these correspondance school historians have been watching too many 'Fractured Fairy Tales!'
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Not that I expect you to read that book, reality is just too plain damn scary for some people.
Just keep on thinking the US are the good guys and everyone else is evil dumbass.
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Have you ever thought about the utter insanity of the U.S. government drafting young men and sending them to fight in the jungles of ASIA in World War II?

BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED USA.

R U REALLY SO STUPID?

DID YOU EXPECTED AFTER JAPS ATTACKED

PEARL HARBOR USA WILL SAY

"THANK YOU FOR BOMBING US - CAN YOU DO IT AGAIN?"




Jesus said to turn the other cheek. look how many were lost due to the American Ego.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 392006

The Jesus qoute is one of the dumbest things I've ever read in my life.
If the Nazis or the Japs had won WWII you be a slave, dead or never born.
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most of these kids dont now jack about history, except what they read from alex jones.

If it wasnt for our brave men during WWII you all would be eating fish heads and rice..and speaking german on the east coast.
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I learned through a Jackie Collins book, that the US put the Japanese living here in 'concentration-like' camps....I was in my early 30's and I was shocked. They didn't teach that in my schools over the yrs.
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The total brutality of the Japanese in China should make you sick.
[link to www.centurychina.com]
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True the japanese killed about 6 million but Chiang Kai Shek murdered 10 million of his own and Mao killed between 50 - 100 million. Why only outrage against the japanese? Are you a Chicom agent?
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most of these kids dont now jack about history, except what they read from alex jones.

If it wasnt for our brave men during WWII you all would be eating fish heads and rice..and speaking german on the east coast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 367687

Like a good little product of public education you miss the larger picture. The people that financed both sides of the war did not give a flying fuck who won. They made a killing no matter who won and had full control of the politics of both sides.
They probably would have preferred a German victory, but the US is being molded into that fascist image anyway, it's just taking a little longer.
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Have you ever thought about the utter insanity of the U.S. government drafting young men and sending them to fight in the jungles of ASIA in World War II?

BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED USA.

R U REALLY SO STUPID?

DID YOU EXPECTED AFTER JAPS ATTACKED

PEARL HARBOR USA WILL SAY

"THANK YOU FOR BOMBING US - CAN YOU DO IT AGAIN?"




Jesus said to turn the other cheek. look how many were lost due to the American Ego.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 392006

"Jesus said to turn the other cheek." ahhh

I EXPECT THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL DO.

AM I CORRECT?