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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379852
6/16/2008 2:33 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
The death, the destruction, the suffering, the chaos; it is who we are, it is who you are. We shall pay, you shall pay.
Our end has begun, your end is near. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 210101
6/16/2008 2:33 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
Are you denying the things my mother said, and worse, what she implied...
Are you denying that there are changes in the earth, and that our earth is in trouble? Quoting: Nuclear Genie
Long answer: My parent's garden is doing fine. Squash, beans, tomatoes, peppers, cabbage etc. are all growing just fine.
I don't deny the earth is changing, but I do assert that you're full of shit. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 413608
6/16/2008 2:34 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
I live in a forest, the forest, animals, and plants
within it are thriving. Quoting: Jos 10859
I live on an island in the tropical country, certain fruit trees over the years have gotten an island wide fungus and have not fruited for years, our beloved orange tree this year just withered up and died, while next to a lemon tree and tangerine tree thrived.....
I always imagined that WTSHTF that I could live off the land like a bird eating from tree to tree.........
I had not anticipated that the fruit trees would slowly die off, but sadly this is happening for no apparent reason . |
| Sunshine
User ID: 452715
6/16/2008 2:58 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
hello Genie,
Despite all your other response here in So.Cali.we have noticed pretty much everything you r mother shared and i would confirm it is the overhad spraying that is causing the famine type problems andmany different things are infecting the plants.
But despite the bad conditions we usually see a few crops but something is definitely up with the plants. Here is what I have noticed just this season:
1. squash plants look small, growing slower even after feeding them.
2. Grape vine did not get grapes
3. lemons look larger but very deformed
4. strawberry's were okay but the day we got the 105' temps they literally burnt from the sun even though they are shaded.
5.all the pepper plants look smaller and same as squash
6. Herbs look somewhat good
7. other plants doing okay but smaller growth noticed this year overall
8. Tomato (Celebrity) has only six tomatoes looks normal so far but did notice leave curl last year and as soon as the sun came out in Summer all died from the extremely hot weather experienced. Other plants just growing slower no fruit yet.
9. But we did get Apples this year but will wait & see
10. Guave bush got flowers no fruit yet
11. tangelos did not produce last year but do see a few trying to grow and all leaves on citus trees been curling since last year and white film on leaves. Feed regular!!
Basically, what I notice is things grow fine till a warm sunny day. The sun seems hotter than normal and for the past two years I have noticed the sun setting in the NE verses NW towards the Ocean. The sun is also coming up more SW than SE and it is quite noticeable. I am also noticing a shadow over the earth even with no clouds in the sky. At first i thought it was my eyes but somethingis really happening and it's not me because other have noticed. The skies are heavy being sprayed before sunrise then to about 7:00am and for the last three weeks HAARP with strange clouds extreemly high up with weird patterns and almost a rainbow in the midst. Happened today as well!!
Everything is dead or dying!! Water goes on the ground but the soil even after a deep soaking is dry an hour later. The only lawns staying nice are those with lots of money to run the water everyday 2x's.
Was up on the back side of Big Bear MT. and all the trees are dying such as never before in all my life and it is really sad to witness and I am sorry it is not just a Bark beetle.
Despite other areas where people can grow good victory gardens are hat is off to you and you had better be canning and planning for some dark days ahead while you have the grace to do so.
Blessings, Sunshine |
| Lotus Feet 
The Paraclete, Interpreter of the law
User ID: 433953
6/16/2008 3:01 AM
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Scientists have been warning people about the soil for over 100 years.
Nobel Prize Winner Dr Alexis Carel 1912, warned that since the soil is the basis for all human life, our only hope for a healthy world rests on re-establishing the harmony in the soil.
And that was before the fertilisers and GM pollution.
People on this thread have talked about their wonderful growth how many mentioned giving mother earrth a rest? When do we allow the soil to rest, recuperate and regenerate?
Humans take so much for granted.
Genetic modification - GM
Genetic engineering is imprecise and unpredictable. But most testing is carried out by the very biotech companies that have the most to gain from results that say GM food is safe.
Growing GM crops also threatens wildlife and the production of GM free foods. What's more some GM crops could allow more pesticides to be used.
The irony is that we don't need GM food. The biotech industry says it will feed the world's poor - but leading third world charities - like Christian Aid - dismiss their claims.
[link to www.foe.co.uk]
The more man plays with nature the more man suffers.
Lotus
"Blessed is the one that comes in the name of the LORD."
"I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."
“Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
THE CHRIST VISION
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433953
6/16/2008 3:55 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
19 I will break down your stubborn pride and make the sky above you like iron and the ground beneath you like bronze. 20 Your strength will be spent in vain, because your soil will not yield its crops, nor will the trees of the land yield their fruit. Leviticus 26:19-21
19 What kind of land do they live in? Is it good or bad? What kind of towns do they live in? Are they unwalled or fortified? 20 How is the soil? Is it fertile or poor? Are there trees on it or not? Do your best to bring back some of the fruit of the land." Numbers 13:19-21
5 The hungry consume his harvest, taking it even from among thorns, and the thirsty pant after his wealth. 6 For hardship does not spring from the soil, nor does trouble sprout from the ground. 7 Yet man is born to trouble as surely as sparks fly upward.Job 5:5-7
7 "At least there is hope for a tree: If it is cut down, it will sprout again, and its new shoots will not fail. 8 Its roots may grow old in the ground and its stump die in the soil, 9 yet at the scent of water it will bud and put forth shoots like a plant.Job 14:7-9
23 Listen and hear my voice; pay attention and hear what I say.24 When a farmer plows for planting, does he plow continually? Does he keep on breaking up and harrowing the soil? 25 When he has leveled the surface, does he not sow caraway and scatter cummin? Does he not plant wheat in its place, barley in its plot, and spelt in its field ?Isaiah 28:23-25
11 For as the soil makes the sprout come up and a garden causes seeds to grow, so the Sovereign LORD will make righteousness and praise spring up before all nations. Isaiah 61:10-11
5 " 'He took some of the seed of your land and put it in fertile soil. He planted it like a willow by abundant water, 6 and it sprouted and became a low, spreading vine. Its branches turned toward him, but its roots remained under it. So it became a vine and produced branches and put out leafy boughs.Ezekiel 17:4-6 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 396098
6/16/2008 4:06 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
ALL......consciousness is being removed from the physical
Mineral,Vegetable,Animal,Human
everywhere species are dying out ....thank God this physical prison is at last coming to an end. |
| Lotus Feet
User ID: 433953
6/16/2008 4:09 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
God commanded that every seventh year should be “a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the Lord.” The people were not allowed to sow their fields nor prune their vineyards during the seventh year; neither could they gather into their storehouses that which grew of its own accord. The owner of the land could take all he wished for immediate use; but his servants and the strangers and even the beasts, had equal rights with the owner in enjoying the fruits of his fields during the sabbatic year. See Leviticus 25:1-7. |
| Lotus Feet
The Paraclete, Interpreter of the law
User ID: 433953
6/16/2008 4:20 AM
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The Vision of The Tree of Life Dying......
22nd October 2004
Pure intent is imperative so be careful what you wish for. The mind can create the most amazing things, but it is the soul that has our best interests at heart. The soul works through the heart of feeling, which is very different to emotion. The sea of emotion can be calm or stormy, but the soul moves like a tree, sensing and feeling its surroundings. Just being a tree. it grows and prospers, with the energy of the universe a true sentient being.
Receiving the energy of the sun and refreshment from the rain, roots growing firm and strong. The tree is clearly the way to be at one with Brahman
When I was inspired to write the above, I saw the tree blossoming and full of fruit. The leaves were so green and healthy, and the tree looked so happy. I was explaining the difference from living in one’s head compared with living in tune with one’s soul.
Early this morning I was shown a vision of the tree and the reality is, that the tree is sad and dying. Its fruits have been plundered and its leaves stripped bare. I asked why I was being shown the vision of this tree, and I was told that this is the state of humanity and mother earth.
In raping Mother Earth of all of her natural resources, we have raped her soul and our own. We have raped each other's souls including the children. So, due to this transgression of the natural laws of the universe, both the soul of Mother Earth and its people are dying.
Earth activists are losing hope; frogs that have lived on mother earth for 200 million years, those that survived every earth change during that time, are dying mysteriously and Human souls are leaving the planet in large numbers due to their lost hope.
There is no separation between us and Mother Earth, we are one in Universal Natural Law. So, now there is only one thing that we can hope for, that we take this vision very seriously indeed and unite together against the forces of destruction, the forces that oppose the very soul of humanity, before it is too late. Love heals the world but it is compassionate action that changes it. GOD's children, hand in hand, side by side in the front line, helping and supporting each other can make these changes.
If this is achieved then Spring can come and there will be a rebirth and regeneration of all things. The choice is yours but there is little time left to make the shift. Unconditional love does not mean that you allow someone to trample all over your soul, otherwise there is nothing left but feeling bereft. The soul is yours and not to be laid at anyone else's feet, so that they can trample upon it. The branches are breaking on the tree of life, due to the loss of the soul of humanity. This loss of soul is due to its own selfishness, living in denial of the truth and the evidence of our own experience.
It is time to live in integrity, stand up and be counted. Take action now beloved ones there is no time to lose.
Zealous compassionate action is essential for our survival. It is time to take responsibility for what mankind has co-created. Step not into fear, but allow GOD’s will-to-good, to be compelled by love into compassionate action. Let it flow through your hearts to the soul of humanity and Mother Earth. She needs you and so do you, can you rise to the challenge and save the tree?
Lotus
"Blessed is the one that comes in the name of the LORD."
"I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."
“Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
THE CHRIST VISION
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452770
6/16/2008 6:32 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
I think it's colder in Canada this year?
It's El nino Quoting: Anonymous Coward 346985
Actually, it's 'LA NINA' (cooling) which has greatly diminished but responsible for this past wicked cool winter, as well as intense tornaoes, and drought in other places. This La Nina combined with the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) Shift to it's Cool Phase (every 25-30 years), plus a very quiet Sun brings us "Global Cooling".
Here's an interesting read on oceanic cycles and climate by Joe D'Aleo from ICECAP
[link to icecap.us] |
| Patchwork Princess
User ID: 294395
6/16/2008 7:52 AM
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Our garden is going strong, have a sour cherry and apple tree - can't wait - Strawberries are as sweet as ever - Waiting for blueberries - Veggies are doing well, after a late cold start - all from "OUR" seed - We have miniture roses - In Full bloom, same with our cut flower garden - Our neighbors garden, not so good, purchased plants from ?????? - look sickly - I shoud set up a stand and sell my plants next year - (like I have nothing better to do)
Some of you people have WEIRD conversations with your imaginary friends. |
| hail
User ID: 450160
6/16/2008 7:54 AM
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Are you denying the things my mother said, and worse, what she implied...
Are you denying that there are changes in the earth, and that our earth is in trouble? Quoting: Nuclear Genie
there will be fools who live in denial when the facts confront their own eyes. prob. most people are even this way if you notice. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 405334
6/16/2008 8:09 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
I was talking to her on the phone, after reading a thread here about changes in the sun, climate or the earth or what ever...were affecting gardens, vegetable gardens and flower gardens, and she told me "oh yes, there are tremendous changes in the earth now, I don't know what has happened. But for the last two years the plants, flowers and vegetable plants have changed, we cannot seem to grow anything. We cannot grow tomatoes, the leaves are turning up and plants that she plants every year for the last 50 years, suddenly within the last two years, she would plant it, love and care for it, and baby it, and in the morning she wakes up and it's dead.
Nothing there, no bugs, nothing to show what killed the plants.
Then she said this, that is very disturbing. She said "they are doing this on purpose, making it impossible to grow your own gardens, so that we are helpless."
I couldn't believe she was telling me this. I called her, because, who else would know better about these matters, than my mother? She loves her gardens. She creates a virtual garden of eden, and is a wonder when it comes to growing things. And she is a horticultural scientist, so who would know better than her, the truth that something is happening?
So, I called her. I did not like what she had to say.
This made me think of all the conspiracy theories that are widespread now...about the powers that be, orchestrating things so that we cannot survive, those who wish to depopulate the planet. I don't want to think this.
But when my mom tells me, "just live every day to the fullest, thankful that you were able to live another day, to breathe the air, and to be alive."
And when she said that, my stomach dropped.
If my mother says there is something terrible going on, on this planet, believe it. Because she has been studying the earth, nature, plants, and flowers and she says they are dying, that they aren't even able to grow them anymore, within the last two years....believe her.
I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad news. Quoting: Nuclear Genie
The problem your mom is experiencing is that she has been trying to plan genetically modified seed. Sometimes they grow plants but not often. To plant a crop of it they have to use an excessive amount of seeds to get the crop they are trying to harvest.
The worse part is this, if she did manage to grow a plant the seeds it produces are sterile. And the flowers of these GM plants kill honey bee hives off pretty quickly.
Keep this in mind when you think about the powers that were or TPTW. They are the enemy of Yah or God to you Germanic believers. Gett is the Germanic word for God.
It is not a good place to find ones self. It really means that all you do is futile and vain and that one day it'll be time for paybacks.
Your mother needs some natural seeds to plant like she used to and guess what? Getting almost imposilbe to find now. They've just about been bread out of existance. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 133105
6/16/2008 8:11 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
Are you denying the things my mother said, and worse, what she implied...
Are you denying that there are changes in the earth, and that our earth is in trouble? Quoting: Nuclear Genie
Yes... |
| Yoda
User ID: 429261
6/16/2008 8:12 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
But when my mom tells me, "just live every day to the fullest, thankful that you were able to live another day, to breathe the air, and to be alive." Quoting: Nuclear Genie
Your mother is wise. Be a good boy and do as she says. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 405334
6/16/2008 8:12 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
Our garden is going strong, have a sour cherry and apple tree - can't wait - Strawberries are as sweet as ever - Waiting for blueberries - Veggies are doing well, after a late cold start - all from "OUR" seed - We have miniture roses - In Full bloom, same with our cut flower garden - Our neighbors garden, not so good, purchased plants from ?????? - look sickly - I shoud set up a stand and sell my plants next year - (like I have nothing better to do) Quoting: Patchwork Princess
If your plants are grown from natural unmodified seed what you should be doing is harvesting seeds for the future as the GM plants will not feed us for much longer and when it all dies off this planet will get very hungry. |
| Ignatius J. Reilly
User ID: 452812
6/16/2008 8:38 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
My tomato plants are doing fine, and that's even with my inexperience, believing that I could use hyponex topsoil in containers to grow them, that shit is like mud, not sure what I was thinking or if I thought somehow it would cease to be muddy, but it's some of the most disgusting soil I've ever come across, yet the plants are still kicking ass.
Dunno. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452818
6/16/2008 8:44 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
In a word...Chemtrails... |
| Ignatius J. Reilly
User ID: 452812
6/16/2008 8:56 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
In a word...Chemtrails... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 452818
Use cloches or greenhouse. you can even grow inside your house!
"dangdid gubmint dangdid ta blame fer me suck at gerdenin, ya herd?" |
| Cunning_linguist
User ID: 450176
6/16/2008 9:06 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
So your mother is a shitty gardener and this equates to Earth changes?
De Bunker Hiding in a Bunker. |
| Arcaneshift
User ID: 452821
6/16/2008 9:06 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
Garden is doing great bumper crops of Bell and banana peppers tomatoes ect. vegetables are fine here and my citrus crop is OK at this time but harvest isn't until late November, and apples great just made 12 apple pies for the freezer and have been eating fresh nectarines for a week . |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 431832
6/16/2008 9:14 AM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
I just started a garden a few months ago. My tomatoes, grapes, bell peppers, strawberries, mulberry tree, and blueberry tree are all doing just fine. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452933
6/16/2008 12:47 PM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
Usually stuff grows really well here in interior Alaska (aside from the random midsummer frost)
We have good soils, hardly any plant pathogens or bug problems, moose eating everything is really the biggest problem
But several of our farmers market farmers, me included, have noticed that if we get a rain right after intense military air exercises (huge military presence here),
then outdoor plants get really weird leaf problems -- they look like they've been 'spackled', some kinds of plants are more affected than others
Greenhouse plants do not have problems |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452335
6/16/2008 1:00 PM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
The earth is just fine
Its the people that are fucked
Pack your shit folks we are going on a journey |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357422
6/16/2008 1:02 PM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
My father is a farmer and he says your mother is full of shit.
“The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.”
– Chinese Proverb
However, we are facing grave danger if the bees continue to disappear. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461100
7/6/2008 3:07 PM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
How's things going with RAMS shewolf?........ Quoting: SHR
shewolfe's history with rams is extensive and pretty psychotic
read about it here
www.kookfiles.com |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461100
7/6/2008 3:09 PM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said... Quoting: Nuclear Genie
"OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said" = my mother has a garden
queen of delusions |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447871
7/6/2008 3:14 PM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
Are you denying the things my mother said, and worse, what she implied...
Are you denying that there are changes in the earth, and that our earth is in trouble? Quoting: Nuclear Genie
My brother also has grown a large garden for several years. He said he is having difficulty this year but it seems to be a problem with insects that he hasn't had before. My speculations tell me we didn't have a cold enough winter here in Florida to kill off the insects. |
| OrangeRay3
User ID: 280985
7/6/2008 3:16 PM | | Re: OMG, my mother is a horticultural scientist and this is what she just said: | Quote |
The genies mom must have been so busy studying that she had to palm her off to the overly religious grandparents. Quoting: 113333
You are rude! |
| Canuck
User ID: 463971
7/6/2008 3:19 PM
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By the way, this might be relevant.
We live in Canada. So our climate change might be different here than the US.
I'm tellin' ya....she is a fully credentialed scientist, and if she says something is going wrong with our crops, she would know probably before most people, because she's been studying how things grow for many years.
I am relieved for you, if you haven't noticed anything yet. Quoting: Nuclear Genie
Hi Genie,
Whereabouts is your mother living??????
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919
"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw
Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.
"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984) |
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