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| refugee13 
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
User ID: 432561
7/26/2008 4:14 PM
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YA! It's SOOOOO harmful to children. Unless you, I don't know, OPEN THE WINDOWS? I really hate people with nothing better to do than infringe on others rights. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 338395
It's funny how I grew up in a household of 2 smokers(heavy)with hot water heat(no outside air going through the system)and I NEVER got aa earache(which they claim secondhand smoke does)or had asthma because of it) and have never been chroically ill from it...
"Livin' The Dream..."
"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"
"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."
"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 421894
7/26/2008 4:18 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
I'm a smoker. I agree smoking is not good (although nicotine has been demonstrated to improve concentration and memory. It's the "smoke" part that's bad.) However, ALCOHOL has caused more deaths and illness (include drunk driving deaths, here). lost work days, family discord, etc etc than smoking, yet you can go into a bar and restaurant and drink and go out and operate a vehicle when we know just one drink effects ability to attend and drive safely. So, go figure..... Smirnoff beats Philip Morris......... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390936
7/26/2008 4:20 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Ban smoking everywhere apart from open spaces and detached private residences. $10,000 dollars or a week in jail punishment for non compliance.
that is all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473872
Yeah but there is that pesky little trick you have to pull off.. CATCHING ME smoking.
I lived in California for years, I smoked wherever I wanted to. In bathrooms, in bars, in clubs.. where ever I wanted to when ever I wanted to.
Made me even a better sneak.. and I never once got caught.
I still smoke in non smoking hotel rooms, even the marriot that makes you sign an agreement saying you wont smoke. Never been busted and never WILL be busted.
The only upside of this is it makes people angry, and angry people get very very sneaky and creative. :)
So in a nutshell.. YOU LOSE. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336381
7/26/2008 4:20 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
I smoked about 5 cigarettes a day at most and was fine for 8 years and enjoyed smoking, then this year in March i started getting breathing problems at night, I would go to sleep and wake up gasping for air. Then i started getting nervous feelings in my chest and small sharp stabbing pains around my heart. After this i quit smoking for 2 weeks. The breathing problems continued for a few days after quitting and then went away.
After 2 weeks i smoked again and the sharp stabbing chest pains returned that same day only ten times worse, the pain felt like a squeezing ache on the left side of my neck that radiated to my chest, the chest pain felt like a massive rock had just landed on my heart and crushed it.
I have not touched a cigarette since then, that was back in April and i still get those chest pains whenever i walk places or run a small distance.
I fear i might drop dead of a heart attack every day, and for what? 8 years of inhaling toxic fumes, not worth it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 453744
Smoking 5 (or even 55) cigs a day over the course of a lifetime doesn't cause the symptoms you've experienced. What DOES cause each and every symptom you've described, however, is an anxiety disorder. A long time ago I went through a bout of generalized anxiety disorder and I had the exact same things happen to me. Before I figured out what was happening I'd progressed into having panic attacks as well. On several occasions I was certain I was having a heart attack and even went to the emergency room a couple times - convinced that I was on death's doorstep. My EKGs and EEGs were all perfectly normal and the docs always diagnosed me with anxiety disorder. I had the hardest time believing that something as simple as anxiety could cause so much physical discomfort, but in the end I had no choice but to accept that this was the case. I smoked through this problem, and continued to smoke through the past decade or so since the problem was solved.
So, your health isn't ruined. An anxiety disorder is an emotional problem that stems from one's inability to property manage feelings of either fear or guilt (or both). Since you think your way into this disorder, you can also think your way out of it. The best way to rid yourself of this problem is to educate yourself about it and then face it down. And, if anything, smoking would be a great help in keeping you calm (natural MAOI inhibitor in the smoke itself) as you work through your issues. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471668
7/26/2008 4:37 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Maybe this is just a case of parents being idiots and exposing their children to second hand smoke. When you think about it, that is truly moronic. If people were not such idiotic fuck-ups, we wouldn't need laws like this.
Hint of the day: If you smoke, don't expose the smoke to your children. Hello! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 455093
7/26/2008 4:40 PM | | SnakeAirlines
User ID: 129627
7/26/2008 4:59 PM
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Don't smoke cigarettes in car with children on board!!!!!!!!
Comprende!!!!!!
Think about the children you selfish human.
Wake up robots!!!!! Quoting: jackanarchist 453686
WHat a tard you are...
I have come here to chew bubblegum, and kick ass... |
| BriGuy
User ID: 467255
7/26/2008 5:04 PM
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And why would you want to smoke in your car while you have children on board?
I'm a smoker, but I sure dont smoke around kids. Bad example, and possibly bad second hand effects. Sure some people question second hand smoking.. but these are kids we're talking about.. better safe than sorry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430584
it's just not a lawmakers place to decide. smoking should be banned in general instead of picking out certain smokers.
fuck off |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 465422
7/26/2008 5:06 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
I smoked about 5 cigarettes a day at most and was fine for 8 years and enjoyed smoking, then this year in March i started getting breathing problems at night, I would go to sleep and wake up gasping for air. Then i started getting nervous feelings in my chest and small sharp stabbing pains around my heart. After this i quit smoking for 2 weeks. The breathing problems continued for a few days after quitting and then went away.
After 2 weeks i smoked again and the sharp stabbing chest pains returned that same day only ten times worse, the pain felt like a squeezing ache on the left side of my neck that radiated to my chest, the chest pain felt like a massive rock had just landed on my heart and crushed it.
I have not touched a cigarette since then, that was back in April and i still get those chest pains whenever i walk places or run a small distance.
I fear i might drop dead of a heart attack every day, and for what? 8 years of inhaling toxic fumes, not worth it.
Smoking 5 (or even 55) cigs a day over the course of a lifetime doesn't cause the symptoms you've experienced. What DOES cause each and every symptom you've described, however, is an anxiety disorder. A long time ago I went through a bout of generalized anxiety disorder and I had the exact same things happen to me. Before I figured out what was happening I'd progressed into having panic attacks as well. On several occasions I was certain I was having a heart attack and even went to the emergency room a couple times - convinced that I was on death's doorstep. My EKGs and EEGs were all perfectly normal and the docs always diagnosed me with anxiety disorder. I had the hardest time believing that something as simple as anxiety could cause so much physical discomfort, but in the end I had no choice but to accept that this was the case. I smoked through this problem, and continued to smoke through the past decade or so since the problem was solved.
So, your health isn't ruined. An anxiety disorder is an emotional problem that stems from one's inability to property manage feelings of either fear or guilt (or both). Since you think your way into this disorder, you can also think your way out of it. The best way to rid yourself of this problem is to educate yourself about it and then face it down. And, if anything, smoking would be a great help in keeping you calm (natural MAOI inhibitor in the smoke itself) as you work through your issues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336381
No, I am the poster you quoted and i wish it was only anxiety related and could still smoke but the problem is in my neck.
I have a hard/clogged artery from smoking, this means that when i do something to increase my heart rate, like excercise or running, there is not enough blood circulation getting to my heart and this causes heart attacks. I need to take medication from now on or it wil get worse and block completely, if this happens i will die. Thanks to smoking. |
| refugee13
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
User ID: 432561
7/26/2008 5:10 PM
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As far as I know, cigarettes are still LEGAL in the US...SMOKE 'EM IF YA GOT 'EM!!!!
 
"Livin' The Dream..."
"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"
"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."
"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336381
7/26/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Maybe this is just a case of parents being idiots and exposing their children to second hand smoke. When you think about it, that is truly moronic. If people were not such idiotic fuck-ups, we wouldn't need laws like this.
Hint of the day: If you smoke, don't expose the smoke to your children. Hello! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471668
The real idiot fuck-ups are those who believe every piece of propaganda pumped out by the pharmaceutical industry (and their associated "charities") concerning secondhand smoke. The so-called danger of secondhand smoke is the biggest and most often repeated lie of all time.
Statistically, the risk of secondhand smoke is far smaller than the risk of getting lung cancer from drinking pasteurized milk. Epidemiologists use “relative risk” (RR or Risk Ratio) as a means for gauging the severity of risk. The U.S. Surgeon General has stated the RR for secondhand smoke is between 1.20 to 1.30. The risk for lung cancer from drinking pasteurized milk is 2.14. And the relative risk for getting cancer from drinking the municipal tap water that tens of millions of Americans drink every day in thousands of cities across the U.S. is 2.0 to 4.0. But where are all the dead bodies from the millions of people exposed to this far higher risk? Do you know of any? So how can secondhand smoke, which has a far lower relative risk, be killing thousands of people as claimed? In 2001 the International Agency for Research on Cancer, in Lyon, France, reported: “ETS exposure during childhood is not associated with an increased risk of lung cancer. No clear dose-response relationship could be demonstrated for cumulative spousal ETS exposure.... Even exposure to ETS from other sources was not associated with lung cancer risk.”
[link to www.amlibpub.com]
Hint of the day: People who can't or won't research and then think through a topic should STFU about it. I'll smoke around my kids whenever and wherever I want - and they'll be just fine. |
| mahershalalhashbaz
User ID: 471842
7/26/2008 5:20 PM
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Plus all the pollution that's put in the air, which is probably the real cause of our health concerns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429245 |
| picesnator
User ID: 318318
7/26/2008 5:24 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
like this is gonna get enforced.....this will just piss-off to many people...it'll drop off the radar screen... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336381
7/26/2008 5:39 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
No, I am the poster you quoted and i wish it was only anxiety related and could still smoke but the problem is in my neck.
I have a hard/clogged artery from smoking, this means that when i do something to increase my heart rate, like excercise or running, there is not enough blood circulation getting to my heart and this causes heart attacks. I need to take medication from now on or it wil get worse and block completely, if this happens i will die. Thanks to smoking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465422
Why on earth are you so certain this is from smoking? It takes at least 20 years of pack-a-day smoking to develop anything approaching the problem you have, and even then, only in the most vulnerable of people, (and even then, only if you believe the pretty shaky "evidence" on this topic from the scientific community). And you get the same toxins (but in much higher quantities than 5 cigs a day) just from driving/walking down the street. If chemicals and toxins are to blame for your clogged artery, then you should be a candidate for death at any moment whether you smoke or not.
How's your weight? You have sleep apnea, and that is almost exclusive to those with extra pounds - not smokers. What's your family history for heart disease? There are so many risk factors for your problem that outweigh smoking that it may turn out that your own myopic thinking is what kills you in the end. Honestly, if your problem is physical it sure isn't "thanks to smoking." It can't be. There's a doctor (big time, famous, anti-smoking advocate) who blogs about this heart attack propaganda all the time based on his assessment of the science - not the headlines. Just go to his site and you'll find hundreds of articles on every study (and press release) about smoking and heart problems.
[link to tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473904
7/26/2008 5:40 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
When I was a kid (a long time ago when we were free), both of my parents smoked in the car. It did us no harm. All three of us grey-haired panthers are still alive and kicking!
You dumb bells who like to see laws passed that curtail someone else's rights shall have what's comin' to ya. And I hope you get it full in the face.
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 for truth
It is coming around and will wake many up.
... to wake some more up!
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 465422
7/26/2008 5:48 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Why on earth are you so certain this is from smoking? It takes at least 20 years of pack-a-day smoking to develop anything approaching the problem you have, and even then, only in the most vulnerable of people, (and even then, only if you believe the pretty shaky "evidence" on this topic from the scientific community). And you get the same toxins (but in much higher quantities than 5 cigs a day) just from driving/walking down the street. If chemicals and toxins are to blame for your clogged artery, then you should be a candidate for death at any moment whether you smoke or not.
How's your weight? You have sleep apnea, and that is almost exclusive to those with extra pounds - not smokers. What's your family history for heart disease? There are so many risk factors for your problem that outweigh smoking that it may turn out that your own myopic thinking is what kills you in the end. Honestly, if your problem is physical it sure isn't "thanks to smoking." It can't be. There's a doctor (big time, famous, anti-smoking advocate) who blogs about this heart attack propaganda all the time based on his assessment of the science - not the headlines. Just go to his site and you'll find hundreds of articles on every study (and press release) about smoking and heart problems.
[ link to tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com]
Everyone is different and it certainly does not take 20 years of smoking a pack a day, some people can smoke their whole life without any problems and others get lung cancer after a year of smoking.
The doctor told me that smoking was the cause and i'm only 23 years old so it must be what caused it, i was healthy before i started. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 345215
7/26/2008 5:58 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Have you ever driven in the city and the air is so think in smog that you can't even see.
All that great toxic waste just blanketing the whole city for you and your children.
But will they stop that? hell no.
Some people would argue it's safer to smoke in the car with your windows up than it is to roll the windows down and breath in the chemical waste of those never ending (smog) smoke stacks all over the place.
If you think cigarettes are bad, you should do a little research on the shit that your breathing in everyday from the industries around you. If you google pictures of smog in a city near you, It might shock you. Even more shocking is the chemicals released that are being breathed in as if it were nothing at all. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336381
7/26/2008 6:17 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Everyone is different and it certainly does not take 20 years of smoking a pack a day, some people can smoke their whole life without any problems and others get lung cancer after a year of smoking.
The doctor told me that smoking was the cause and i'm only 23 years old so it must be what caused it, i was healthy before i started. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465422
If you believe that any human being on the planet has gotten lung cancer after a year of smoking, then you may as well believe me when I say that I'm the
Tooth Fairy. I've been researching this since before you were born, and I can promise you that such is not the case. Only 5%-15% of LIFELONG smokers (depending upon which studies you look at) get lung cancer, which isn't a heck of a lot different from lung cancer rates in never smokers.
If you found this problem at age 23 then your risk factors are almost certainly hereditary in nature - and not smoking related. Some doctors can be criminally biased when it comes to smoking - seriously, they'll just write you off the second they hear of your smoking status. If you want the real truth about your condition - get a second opinion from another doctor and, this time, DON'T tell them that you smoked. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473904
7/26/2008 6:32 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Everyone is different and it certainly does not take 20 years of smoking a pack a day, some people can smoke their whole life without any problems and others get lung cancer after a year of smoking.
The doctor told me that smoking was the cause and i'm only 23 years old so it must be what caused it, i was healthy before i started.
If you believe that any human being on the planet has gotten lung cancer after a year of smoking, then you may as well believe me when I say that I'm the
Tooth Fairy. I've been researching this since before you were born, and I can promise you that such is not the case. Only 5%-15% of LIFELONG smokers (depending upon which studies you look at) get lung cancer, which isn't a heck of a lot different from lung cancer rates in never smokers.
If you found this problem at age 23 then your risk factors are almost certainly hereditary in nature - and not smoking related. Some doctors can be criminally biased when it comes to smoking - seriously, they'll just write you off the second they hear of your smoking status. If you want the real truth about your condition - get a second opinion from another doctor and, this time, DON'T tell them that you smoked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336381
You are SO right!
My doctor got on my case because I said I smoked. EVERYTHING was due to smoking.
So I agreed to quit.
Only I didn't.
I just SAID I did.
Weeks later ....
Fucking retard quack told me my blood results, breathing, blood pressure were ALL *much much better* ..... !!!
I got home and smoked 20!
and I AIN'T going back.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 465422
7/26/2008 6:45 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Everyone is different and it certainly does not take 20 years of smoking a pack a day, some people can smoke their whole life without any problems and others get lung cancer after a year of smoking.
The doctor told me that smoking was the cause and i'm only 23 years old so it must be what caused it, i was healthy before i started.
If you believe that any human being on the planet has gotten lung cancer after a year of smoking, then you may as well believe me when I say that I'm the
Tooth Fairy. I've been researching this since before you were born, and I can promise you that such is not the case. Only 5%-15% of LIFELONG smokers (depending upon which studies you look at) get lung cancer, which isn't a heck of a lot different from lung cancer rates in never smokers.
If you found this problem at age 23 then your risk factors are almost certainly hereditary in nature - and not smoking related. Some doctors can be criminally biased when it comes to smoking - seriously, they'll just write you off the second they hear of your smoking status. If you want the real truth about your condition - get a second opinion from another doctor and, this time, DON'T tell them that you smoked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336381
The lung cancer after 1 year of smoking was just an example, the point i was making is everyones bodies react differently and it's like a gamble wether you will get sick or not.
You could be right about it not being smoking that caused it, maybe this would have happened to me anyway, but one thing is certain, the smoking caused it to happen early.
Now i was healthy before i started so it was only natural for me to blame the smoking, whatever the case i am now too sick to do anything with my life and i still blame smoking for that. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336381
7/26/2008 7:31 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Way to go the the AC who took smoking out of the equation with their doctor! Except very rarely, you'll never get a quality assessment of your health, or quality care from a doctor, dentist, or anyone else in the health community if you mention your smoking status. For them, it's a moral issue - almost a religious crusade - and not about health at all.
You could be right about it not being smoking that caused it, maybe this would have happened to me anyway, but one thing is certain, the smoking caused it to happen early.
Now i was healthy before i started so it was only natural for me to blame the smoking, whatever the case i am now too sick to do anything with my life and i still blame smoking for that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465422
You're not too sick to get to the bottom of what's really causing your health problems and doing something about it. Being so invested into believing it's got to be in some way, shape or form about smoking is stopping you from considering (and productively attacking) much more likely causes. Stop being so brainwashed.
According to you, you have one partially blocked artery. How is that making you too sick to do anything with your very young life? There are plenty of natural remedies for this type of problem, and there's also stents and by-pass operations that would clear the whole thing up immediately. You need a new doctor and a new, much more educated and empowered attitude to get past your health problems. Forget the smoking. The guilt you feel about that is imposed on you by people who have an agenda - and it ain't an agenda that has your best interests at heart.
You are 23 years old, with a blocked artery. Get your cholesterol checked, review your family history for heart problems, exercise - lightly at least, overhaul your diet, and most importantly...stop worrying. You will heal. At 23, and with your light smoking history, there is no way in the world that your problems could be smoking related. Really, you are wasting your time with that false belief. |
| a passing cloud
User ID: 222706
7/26/2008 7:37 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
i see it was time to churn up the hypocritical horseshit again...
which child is in more real danger, the 10 year old kid inhaling second hand smoke in the car or the 10 year old kid who is mommy's little daredevil and allowed to ride a fucking motorcycle at 80-90 miles per hour on dangerous trails regularly without a helmet? HHHHMMMMMM???????!!!!!
if MY kid is sitting on the sofa with me breathing in my cigar smoke, while YOUR kid is 30 feet up a tree, without a harness, standing on a small branch breathing in all that wonderful fresh air....which child is in immediate danger of REAL injuries? HHHHMMMMM???!?!?!?
what is the percentage of americans who still possess the critical thinking skills to correctly answer those two questions? 30 percent?
anti-smoking mania is 99 percent superstition and one percent situational....that is, there ARE kids with medical problems who should be kept away from smoke, and i will do my part by NOT smoking next to them. you do yours by not being hypocrite buffoons.
as if that could really happen. |
| refugee13
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
User ID: 432561
7/26/2008 8:32 PM
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I smoked about 5 cigarettes a day at most and was fine for 8 years and enjoyed smoking, then this year in March i started getting breathing problems at night, I would go to sleep and wake up gasping for air. Then i started getting nervous feelings in my chest and small sharp stabbing pains around my heart. After this i quit smoking for 2 weeks. The breathing problems continued for a few days after quitting and then went away.
After 2 weeks i smoked again and the sharp stabbing chest pains returned that same day only ten times worse, the pain felt like a squeezing ache on the left side of my neck that radiated to my chest, the chest pain felt like a massive rock had just landed on my heart and crushed it.
I have not touched a cigarette since then, that was back in April and i still get those chest pains whenever i walk places or run a small distance.
I fear i might drop dead of a heart attack every day, and for what? 8 years of inhaling toxic fumes, not worth it.
Smoking 5 (or even 55) cigs a day over the course of a lifetime doesn't cause the symptoms you've experienced. What DOES cause each and every symptom you've described, however, is an anxiety disorder. A long time ago I went through a bout of generalized anxiety disorder and I had the exact same things happen to me. Before I figured out what was happening I'd progressed into having panic attacks as well. On several occasions I was certain I was having a heart attack and even went to the emergency room a couple times - convinced that I was on death's doorstep. My EKGs and EEGs were all perfectly normal and the docs always diagnosed me with anxiety disorder. I had the hardest time believing that something as simple as anxiety could cause so much physical discomfort, but in the end I had no choice but to accept that this was the case. I smoked through this problem, and continued to smoke through the past decade or so since the problem was solved.
So, your health isn't ruined. An anxiety disorder is an emotional problem that stems from one's inability to property manage feelings of either fear or guilt (or both). Since you think your way into this disorder, you can also think your way out of it. The best way to rid yourself of this problem is to educate yourself about it and then face it down. And, if anything, smoking would be a great help in keeping you calm (natural MAOI inhibitor in the smoke itself) as you work through your issues.
No, I am the poster you quoted and i wish it was only anxiety related and could still smoke but the problem is in my neck.
I have a hard/clogged artery from smoking, this means that when i do something to increase my heart rate, like excercise or running, there is not enough blood circulation getting to my heart and this causes heart attacks. I need to take medication from now on or it wil get worse and block completely, if this happens i will die. Thanks to smoking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465422
what kind of diet did you have??? I find it very hard to believe that smoking ONLY contributed to the clogged artery...
"Livin' The Dream..."
"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"
"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."
"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."
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| refugee13
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
User ID: 432561
7/26/2008 8:33 PM
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Why on earth are you so certain this is from smoking? It takes at least 20 years of pack-a-day smoking to develop anything approaching the problem you have, and even then, only in the most vulnerable of people, (and even then, only if you believe the pretty shaky "evidence" on this topic from the scientific community). And you get the same toxins (but in much higher quantities than 5 cigs a day) just from driving/walking down the street. If chemicals and toxins are to blame for your clogged artery, then you should be a candidate for death at any moment whether you smoke or not.
How's your weight? You have sleep apnea, and that is almost exclusive to those with extra pounds - not smokers. What's your family history for heart disease? There are so many risk factors for your problem that outweigh smoking that it may turn out that your own myopic thinking is what kills you in the end. Honestly, if your problem is physical it sure isn't "thanks to smoking." It can't be. There's a doctor (big time, famous, anti-smoking advocate) who blogs about this heart attack propaganda all the time based on his assessment of the science - not the headlines. Just go to his site and you'll find hundreds of articles on every study (and press release) about smoking and heart problems.
[ link to tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com]
Everyone is different and it certainly does not take 20 years of smoking a pack a day, some people can smoke their whole life without any problems and others get lung cancer after a year of smoking.
The doctor told me that smoking was the cause and i'm only 23 years old so it must be what caused it, i was healthy before i started.
I think I'd get another doctor...
"Livin' The Dream..."
"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"
"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."
"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."
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| BriZzNiTcH
User ID: 420732
7/26/2008 9:19 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
How does this Work??? They do Not want you to smoke around the children?? But they JACK UP the FOOD prices so Your children starve but somehow that's acceptable???? Hmm!
not only that, but look at the shit they put in food that IS FOR our children. the food they sell us is PURE SHIT! not to mention all the chemicals in everything else we use to live from every day. take a look at the ingredients in anything you use for your kid, even lotion and baby bath. you cant even pronouce them!!
they need to also ban people driving with cell phones. everytime i get pissed about someones driving, and i finally get to pass them, they are too busy gabbing on their phone to realize they just about killed 10 people.
i understand cig smoke may not be good for kids, but come on. for years people have smoked around kids, and people are living longer than ever!!!! most of our grandparents smoked themselves since they were 7 or 8 years old! how come most of the people i know with or who have had cancer have never smoked?!?!?!?
p.s. they just passed this no smoking in your car in maine a few months ago too.
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| refugee13
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
User ID: 432561
7/26/2008 9:38 PM
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"Livin' The Dream..."
"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"
"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."
"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390936
9/16/2008 9:27 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Ill smoke where I want as long as I own the property. Screw that noise. |
| Gohan
User ID: 363321
9/16/2008 9:32 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
That's sick.
People should be able to smoke wherever they want.
Hell, not so long ago smoking was allowed in hospitals.
Let's go back to those days. Quoting: Mister Obvious
You lost a few points with that one. |
| yowza
User ID: 503221
9/16/2008 9:34 PM | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
Frankly 250 is not enough should be more like 1000.
Hell, smoking in front of kids in a sealed car should get you a night in the Slammer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 392006
how about water boarding as well |
| ANOMALIA
User ID: 466162
9/16/2008 9:35 PM
 | | Re: Smoking banned in your own CAR!! | Quote |
why would one want to smoke with a child in a car? |
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