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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394778
6/18/2008 7:40 AM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
UFO related? Nope.
Conspiracy related? Nope.
That must mean the OP is part of the Lunatic Fringe... |
| sarasota
User ID: 453949
6/18/2008 8:18 AM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
People hate to be told they are doing something wrong. So many people get hung-up on christians pointing out sinfullness. Yes it is not our place to judge one another but there is a passage in the bible that states: If you do not correct your child then you do not love them. If your child steals something and you dont tell them it's wrong, you are doing them harm. I believe this is true for everyone, not just our own children.
I think an honest accessment of someone's actions is a true measure of love if it is delivered in kindness with an honest desire to help.
If all of us "christians" were hatefull we would be telling others to continue on with their sin/evil so we could be rid of them in the end.
I personally would like to see everyone in heaven, especially those close to me, so if it means mentioning some uglies and being rejected so be it. |
| Lotus Feet 
The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
6/18/2008 8:37 AM
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Many Christians refuse to heal and purify the self eventhough healing consciousness was the way of Jesus, he was teaching people how to heal the self. The bible says
"Now that you have purifed yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart. For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable. Through the living and enduring word of God.
Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice, and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. ( e.g. root causes of core issues).
Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, now that you have tasted that the Lord is good". 1 Peter:22
Where does the milk come from? The mother, the divine feminine and its principles.
The Living Stone and the Chosen People
As you come to him the Living Stone rejected by men but chosen by God and precious to him- you also like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For in scripture it says: "See I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame. Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe. "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone. 1 Peter 4-8
The capstone that all the religious rejected was Spiritual Independence.
You are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises to him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 1 Peter 9
The mother and the son lead you to the father. It is the spiritual that are the treasure in God's chest, it is they that are the Holy Priesthood.
Lotus Quoting: Lotus Feet
PS Growing up in your salvation is about maturing emotionally and spiritually.
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ "God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save." "Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God."
In my integrity you uphold me and set me in your presence forever. Psa 41:12 "The LORD within her is righteous; he does no wrong. Morning by morning he dispenses his justice, and every new day he does not fail, yet the unrighteous know no shame." Zephaniah 3:4-6 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453989
6/18/2008 9:17 AM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
This was written in Dan 1000's of years ago. This time of distress has never happened yet!
Footnotes Quoting: Ice
I think the Jews of 70 AD would disagree with you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415176
6/18/2008 9:27 AM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
Dear Ice,
1. The word rapture does not exist in the bible.
(Rapture is the word used to express 2 Thes 4:17 you did read that right? If you don't believe the Bible that is on you !)))
2. The word faith did not exist in the time of Jesus, the word faith was developed by theologians. The original word meant "trustful loyalty". Jesus never asked for blind faith he asked you to trust him. Trust is very important in healing, if a person does not trust then they block being able to be helped. Also a person that does not trust is blocked in all their energy centres and their dynamic self healing system does not work properly.
(without faith it is not possible to please God)The word faith vs the meaning of Faith in one God is the core belief to the Jewish history.)
3. To truly understand the meaning of his words one has to understand spiritual symbology. When it talks about the clouds it is not talking about the clouds in the sky. It is talking metaphorically. There is a lot of wisdom in the bible but it is spiritual wisdom and very few Christian scholars truly understand it. However, yes many of the spiritual were the last to come to Christ and they are the first to go through the eye of the needle and are the first born of the New Adam because they are healed, purified and whole. They have come to completion within themselves and as such they are the brides with the lamps. Religious people who have not started their spiritual path home to God will indeed be the last because they have not found the heaven within.
(To truly understand you need to listen to your own spirit and not allow people like you to try to express away what I believe! You are own your own!)
God is a spiritual reality not a religious one.
In biblical times Daniel wasn't taken very seriously in fact it only got into the cannon by the skin of its teeth. Rabbi Judah Loew ben Bezalel lamented that the times for the fulfillment of the prophecy of Daniel "were over long ago" (Sanhedrin 98b, 97a). Many Orthodox Jews believe that the prophecy refers to the destruction of the Second Temple by the Romans in 70 AD. Secular scholars however, believe that the prophecy better fits the reign of Antiochus, and that it is an example of vaticinium ex eventu (prophecy after the fact).
(I take Daniel as true prophecy, thank you!)
Lotus
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| 19.47™
User ID: 282917
6/18/2008 9:52 AM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...
"But none of the wicked shall understand [that the End of the Age is upon them]." [Daniel 12:10b] ...
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415176
6/18/2008 9:59 AM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...
"But none of the wicked shall understand [that the End of the Age is upon them]." [Daniel 12:10b] ...
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock... Quoting: 19.47™ 282917
very good
that is the point of the post!!!
ice |
| Ice
User ID: 453923
6/18/2008 4:42 PM
 | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...
"But none of the wicked shall understand [that the End of the Age is upon them]." [Daniel 12:10b] ...
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...
very good
that is the point of the post!!!
ice Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415176
but I do think GLP will see it coming!!!
ice
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453992
6/18/2008 4:57 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
Just as the evil ones did not believe Noah in his time, so the lovers of evil today will not believe, and will panic when the end comes just as the sinners of Noah's time did. Some people learn only the hard way. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 437804
6/18/2008 5:02 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
"He will eat and drink with those who are drunk. "
Can't wait |
| Tmad1
User ID: 342643
6/18/2008 5:03 PM
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tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...
"But none of the wicked shall understand [that the End of the Age is upon them]." [Daniel 12:10b] ...
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...
very good
that is the point of the post!!!
ice
but I do think GLP will see it coming!!!
ice Quoting: Ice
So tells us all ICE ICE BABY ,When none Of this BS happens by the end of the month of June like you have said . IE Nuclear Bomb going off in San Diego, CA.having what a 13.0 EQ . Will you just go away and shut the FUCK up. Or will you like I expect Pull NANCY and say some BS and still keep on with this shit.
YOU HAVE TURNED INTO THE BIGGEST ATTENTION WHORE IN GLP. How many threads have you started on this same END OF THE WORLD BULLSHIT 1.2.3.4.5.... 20. If the first 10 didnt get your fucking message thru what the fuck makes you think the next 10 will.
Go hide in your little cave waiting for the end and the world and shut the fuck up already. STEVIE ERRRRRRRR ICE ICE BABY OR NANCY I FORGET YOU ALL SOUND THE FUCKING SAME. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 437804
6/18/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
UFO related? Nope.
Conspiracy related? Nope.
That must mean the OP is part of the Lunatic Fringe... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394778
funny but not entirely accurate |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 454152
6/18/2008 5:22 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
the writings of daniel were from the writers present looking back to his then time. true that it would be associated with antichus epiphanes.
the author of daniel was seeking to encourage faith and perservance in the adjusted time. the writer was looking back in his present day at what had happened and what he (and the people) should look forward to. |
| Ice
User ID: 453923
6/18/2008 5:30 PM
| | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
So tells us all ICE ICE BABY ,When none Of this BS happens by the end of the month of June like you have said . IE Nuclear Bomb going off in San Diego, CA.having what a 13.0 EQ . Will you just go away and shut the FUCK up. Or will you like I expect Pull NANCY and say some BS and still keep on with this shit.
(like I said? Pastor Matt is seeing some of what you are saying and he did not put end of June on it! - what a nice spirit you have!)
YOU HAVE TURNED INTO THE BIGGEST ATTENTION WHORE IN GLP. How many threads have you started on this same END OF THE WORLD BULLSHIT 1.2.3.4.5.... 20. If the first 10 didnt get your fucking message thru what the fuck makes you think the next 10 will.
( I will have to go back and see what you are talking about!
what a nice spirit you have!)
Go hide in your little cave waiting for the end and the world and shut the fuck up already. STEVIE ERRRRRRRR ICE ICE BABY OR NANCY I FORGET YOU ALL SOUND THE FUCKING SAME.
(it really is not a cave and it's not that little!)
God Bless
ice
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25
6/18/2008 5:42 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
But Matthew also says:
"He responded, "The people of an evil and unfaithful era look for a miraculous sign. But the only sign they will get is the sign of the prophet Jonah."
Matt 12:39
In other words, those who crave doom will keep craving.
you got to read all of Matt 24
that is not what the Lord is saying at all!!
not at all Quoting: Ice
He is saying that and much more. He said this because while he and his disciples went through the countryside (on the sabbath) religious legalists pointed out that the disciples were doing what was unlawful on the sabbath. Jesus obviously grew tired of explaining to them that you should use common sense when dealing with work on the sabbath (if your animal falls into a hole, you get it out) because their minds were so full of evil.
He also likened the scribes and pharisees (the religious leaders, comparable to Islamic mullahs) as "A generation of snakes" or "vipers," and like those possessed by demons because of their state of mind/unrepentant hearts.
"O generation of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks."
Matt 12:34
"When an unclean spirit goes out of a person it roams through arid regions searching for rest but finds none.
Then it says, 'I will return to my home from which I came.' But upon returning, it finds it empty, swept clean, and put in order. Then it goes and brings back with itself seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they move in and dwell there; and the last condition of that person is worse than the first. Thus it will be with this evil generation."
Matt 12:43-45 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453301
6/18/2008 5:50 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
So tells us all ICE ICE BABY ,When none Of this BS happens by the end of the month of June like you have said . IE Nuclear Bomb going off in San Diego, CA.having what a 13.0 EQ . Will you just go away and shut the FUCK up. Or will you like I expect Pull NANCY and say some BS and still keep on with this shit.
(like I said? Pastor Matt is seeing some of what you are saying and he did not put end of June on it! - what a nice spirit you have!)
YOU HAVE TURNED INTO THE BIGGEST ATTENTION WHORE IN GLP. How many threads have you started on this same END OF THE WORLD BULLSHIT 1.2.3.4.5.... 20. If the first 10 didnt get your fucking message thru what the fuck makes you think the next 10 will.
( I will have to go back and see what you are talking about!
what a nice spirit you have!)
Go hide in your little cave waiting for the end and the world and shut the fuck up already. STEVIE ERRRRRRRR ICE ICE BABY OR NANCY I FORGET YOU ALL SOUND THE FUCKING SAME.
(it really is not a cave and it's not that little!)
God Bless
ice Quoting: Ice
he said 3 BIG earthquakes in america in the month of June.I heard him say it on that radio program with ott.Then he came back on a few days later and said he may have missed it.whatever that means.guess he was prophesying for attention out of his own mind. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176444
6/18/2008 5:57 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
Sign of Noah
Note that at EXACTLY the minute after Midnight, Universal Time is when California, which with DST is 7 hours behind Universal Time, fulfilled better than I could have ever anticipated the SIGN OF NOAH of a sexual deviant society blaspheming the very first institution established by God, by "marrying and giving in marriage", the same sex.
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, Matthew 24:38
Note that this verse says DAYS before the flood, they were marrying and giving in marriage. But Saturday is by far the most common day for a WEDDING, (as in June 21st). Why not day, or week? But the scripture says DAYS, not day, and not weeks. When in history can you remember so many weddings DURING THE WEEK, every single day leading up to Saturday? These now are the days immediately following the most populous state in the United States legalizing "same sex marriage". The sign of Noah. [link to www.fivedoves.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453301
6/18/2008 6:05 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
People ask me all the time, what is the great sign of the 2 coming>>>????
Sun turns dark and moon turns blood red!!! Quoting: Ice
looks like at least 7 more years then...
[link to www.prophecyinthenews.com] |
| Ice
User ID: 453923
6/18/2008 6:13 PM
| | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
People ask me all the time, what is the great sign of the 2 coming>>>????
Sun turns dark and moon turns blood red!!!
looks like at least 7 more years then...
[ link to www.prophecyinthenews.com]
You don't think this is the only way the King of Kings could make this happen!
ice
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25
6/18/2008 6:21 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
Sign of Noah
Note that at EXACTLY the minute after Midnight, Universal Time is when California, which with DST is 7 hours behind Universal Time, fulfilled better than I could have ever anticipated the SIGN OF NOAH of a sexual deviant society blaspheming the very first institution established by God, by "marrying and giving in marriage", the same sex.
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, Matthew 24:38
Note that this verse says DAYS before the flood, they were marrying and giving in marriage. But Saturday is by far the most common day for a WEDDING, (as in June 21st). Why not day, or week? But the scripture says DAYS, not day, and not weeks. When in history can you remember so many weddings DURING THE WEEK, every single day leading up to Saturday? These now are the days immediately following the most populous state in the United States legalizing "same sex marriage". The sign of Noah. [ link to www.fivedoves.com]
Dreamed someone was trying to get to California, they were really excited about getting there. I tried to explain that California no longer existed, because the map we were looking at showed California underwater, but the person seemed oblivious to this... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 207248
6/18/2008 6:25 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
Fortunately, when the Christians ascend, their bodies will transform into immortal bodies, and they will take them with them.
So, no worries there.
You are already immortal.
Ascent of the tree of life takes healing and self purification. It doesn't happen like magic. And he comes when you least expect him.
Lotus Quoting: Lotus Feet
Lotus, you really are a New Ager, blending other things, all this talk about 'magic and self purification is just pure BOLLOCKS.
Jesus Christ is who you point all things to, Period! |
| Ice
User ID: 453923
6/18/2008 6:26 PM
| | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
he said 3 BIG earthquakes in america in the month of June.I heard him say it on that radio program with ott.Then he came back on a few days later and said he may have missed it.whatever that means.guess he was prophesying for attention out of his own mind.
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Yep I think he is more concerned about big events happening before Oct.
I am not going to turn into the defend Pastor Matt guy. I know I am the one posting it but I am not the one saying it!
I am the one that thinks a nuke is going off in L.A. before Oct so I will stand on that one!
ice
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453301
6/18/2008 6:38 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
People ask me all the time, what is the great sign of the 2 coming>>>????
Sun turns dark and moon turns blood red!!!
looks like at least 7 more years then...
[ link to www.prophecyinthenews.com]
You don't think this is the only way the King of Kings could make this happen!
ice
oh sure there could be other ways of making a blood red moon.maybe God will paint it red or something lol jus kiddin |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 454246
6/18/2008 6:53 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
Why wonder? Read the words of Jesus now. He's posting in the call for 100000 christed ones thread. Don't take my word for it. See for yourself, make up your own mind Dare to think for yourself Answer the call |
| Tmad1
User ID: 342643
6/18/2008 6:54 PM
| | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
he said 3 BIG earthquakes in america in the month of June.I heard him say it on that radio program with ott.Then he came back on a few days later and said he may have missed it.whatever that means.guess he was prophesying for attention out of his own mind.
_______________
Yep I think he is more concerned about big events happening before Oct.
I am not going to turn into the defend Pastor Matt guy. I know I am the one posting it but I am not the one saying it!
I am the one that thinks a nuke is going off in L.A. before Oct so I will stand on that one!
ice Quoting: Ice
HAHAHA So its already begun. First it was June now its OCT. Whats next DEC. Come on NANCY YOU CAN DO BETTER THEN THIS. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453301
6/18/2008 6:58 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
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Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2014/15 (Blood Red Moons/We are entering into a new 7 year sabbatical leading up to 2015.It will be interesting to see if TPTB divide Jerusalem with a 7 year treaty by the end of Sept.08)
by J. R. Church
As you may know, this year is a Sabbatical Year in the Jewish Calendar. Starting next September 29, 2008, a new Sabbatical cycle will commence. It will run for seven years and conclude with another Sabbatical Year in 2014/15.
Also, you may know that Daniel’s seventieth week will be a seven-year Sabbatical cycle. Students of biblical prophecy have long compared Daniel’s seventieth week with the Tribulation Period as laid out in the book of Revelation.
Intrigued with the Scriptures that repeat over and over again that our Savior’s Second Coming will be heralded with signs in the heavens, in which the sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, Pastor Mark Biltz went on the Internet, to a U.S. Government web site, to see if he could find any solar or lunar eclipses over the next few years that might be significant.
To his surprise, he found four lunar eclipses and two solar eclipses in the Sabbatical Year of 2014 and 2015. Also, he noticed that they all appear on Jewish Holy Days!
Lunar Eclipses
The four lunar eclipses will occur on:
Passover, April 15, 2014
The Feast of Tabernacles, October 8, 2014
Passover, April 4, 2015 and
The Feast of Tabernacles, September 28, 2015
This is most unusual. It is a rare occurrence for four lunar cycles to happen on successive Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) observances. It will not happen again for hundreds of years. However, Mark found that a series of four lunar eclipses on these particular holy days did occur in the twentieth century -- not once, but twice! The first set occurred in 1949-1950, the year after Israel became a state! The second set happened in 1967-1968, the year Israel liberated Jerusalem! Such a phenomenon is nigh unto impossible, unless it was set up by Divine design. Mark looked back in history and noticed that the last time this set of four lunar eclipses occurred on Passover and Sukkot was in 1493, the year after Columbus sailed the ocean blue and Spain expelled all Jews.
Mark is convinced that God was telling the beleaguered Jews that He was fully aware of their circumstances! In that case, we wonder what is God telling the Jews in the 1949 and 1967 lunar eclipses? And, as we look at the next seven years, we wonder, “What is God telling Israel through the upcoming lunar eclipses?” Is it possible that these are fulfilling biblical prophecies?
Solar Eclipses
In addition to the four lunar eclipses in 2014-15, Mark also found two solar eclipses. They will occur on:
Adar 29/Nisan 1, March 20, 2015
The Feast of Trumpets, September 13, 2015
These two dates are quite significant because they are special days in the Jewish calendar. For example, it was on Nisan 1, the first anniversary of the Exodus, that Moses raised up the tabernacle for the first time and the glory of God descended. Two weeks later, the Chosen People observed their first Pentecost since the Exodus.
Nisan 1 marks the beginning of the religious festival cycle. Six months later, on Tishri 1, the Jews observe Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets. This day is highly prophetic, because it is said to be the anniversary of the Creation of Adam. It is Adam’s birthday. And, even though it is a Jewish observance, it is prophetically significant as a day for Gentile nations.
It is the day when God will sit down upon His throne of Judgment and take the books in his hand. That is when He will begin the judgment of the world. So, a solar eclipse on Rosh Hashanah could precede the Second Coming of Christ in power and great glory, and fulfill the biblical description.
The Solar Eclipse This Year
Coming up this summer, there will be the first of three solar eclipses on the day that introduces the first of Av (August 1, 2008). That’s right, all three solar eclipses will be on the biblical date of Av 1, for the next three years -- 2008, 2009, and 2010. Our Gregorian calendar dates are:
Av 1 - August 1, 2008 - partial eclipse
Av 1 - July 22, 2009 - partial eclipse
Av 1 - July 11, 2010 - partial eclipse
In the Jewish calendar, they are all on the first of Av, the day when Jews lament the destruction of their temples. As the story goes, Moses caught the people worshiping the Golden Calf on Tammuz 17. Therefore, the three weeks from Tammuz 17 to Av 9 are called “the dark time” and “between the straits.” It is the most sorrowful time of the year for Jews. From Av 1-9, no bathing is allowed; no comforts; no clean clothes; the Jew takes his shoes off; sits on an overturned chair and reads the book of Lamentations.
However, there will come a time when God will reverse the fast days and turn them into feast days. Zechariah said:
“Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The fast of the fourth month [Tammuz 17], and the fast of the fifth [Av 9], and the fast of the seventh, and the fast of the tenth, shall be to the house of Judah joy and gladness, and cheerful feasts; therefore love the truth and peace” (Zech. 8:19).
Mark Biltz seems to think that the solar eclipses on Av 1, could change the course of history, because solar eclipses are designed for Gentile nations, whereas lunar eclipses are designed for Israel. Therefore, he thinks that God could begin judging the nations this summer. Will there be a war in Israel this summer? It is entirely possible. If so, then the solar eclipse could be announcing judgment upon the world -- a sobering thought!
Bible Predictions
About the Sun and Moon
Now, let’s look at the places in the Bible that speak of the sun being darkened and the moon not giving her light. First of all, Isaiah wrote:
“Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger … the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
“And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible” (Isa. 13:9-11).
We are told that this will occur in the “day of the LORD.” It is the time when God will punish the Gentile nations for their wickedness. We are not talking about ordinary everyday living, but gross wickedness against God and His Chosen People. God calls them arrogant, proud and haughty. He says that they are terrible, evil and wicked. It seems to me that he is referring to the nations that are trying to destroy Israel. Again, Isaiah said:
“Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously” (Isa. 24:23).
Since neither the sun or moon has a conscience, the references to being confounded or ashamed seem to be metaphoric of the condition of man on earth. The darkening of the sun and moon, therefore, are signs of man’s condition. These conditions will prevail at the time of the Lord’s return to judge the wicked and establish His kingdom. Isaiah was the first prophet to write about solar and lunar eclipses, but Joel’s passages are the most widely quoted. Joel wrote:
“The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
“And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?” (Joel 2:10,11).
Again, Joel said:
“And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
“The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come” (Joel 2:30,31).
Finally, Joel said:
“Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
“The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining” (Joel 3:14,15).
Isaiah and Joel are the only Old Testament prophets that mentioned solar and lunar apparitions in the day of the LORD. In each case, however, it is apparent that they are referring to events that precede the messianic kingdom. Joel adds earthquakes, blood, fire and pillars of smoke. I think he is describing the battles that attend the Tribulation Period, especially the final Battle of Armageddon.
Passages From the New Testament
In the New Testament Gospel of Matthew, Jesus said:
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
“And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” (Matt. 24:29,30).
In His Olivet discourse, Jesus described His glorious appearing at the close of the Tribulation Period. My guess (and its only a guess) is that the darkening of the sun and moon could be eclipses. Stars falling from heaven could be missiles used in the war. Powers of the heavens being shaken could refer to many nuclear explosions around the world, disrupting the atmosphere. The “sign” of the Son of Man, could be His actual appearance in “the clouds of heaven.” The clouds may be an ancient description of celestial vehicles, rather than simple clouds. The only clouds that prompt fear today is the kind with a twister coming out of them. Therefore, I think the term “clouds” is used to describe something that flies in the sky.
The Gospel of Mark repeats the Savior’s statement:
“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light” (Mark 13:24).
Luke also records the occasion:
“And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
“Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
“And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory” (Luke 21:25-27).
On the day of Pentecost, Peter quoted Joel’s prophecy:
“The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Acts 2:20,21).
In the book of Revelation, John enlarged upon the prophecy:
“And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
“And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind” (Rev. 6:12,13).
“And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise” (Rev. 8:12,).
The idea that a third of the sun is smitten may be a reference to a partial eclipse, similar to the one that will occur on Rosh Hashanah in the Jewish year 5775 -- September 13, 2015.
These are the biblical passages that deal with the subject. We cannot tell you that the solar and lunar eclipses that will occur in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2014, and 2015 are the fulfillments of Biblical prophecy, but they are fascinating enough to issue, not a warning, but a watch. As we have said for years at the close of each of our telecasts, “Keep looking up! |
| Caduceus
User ID: 257757
6/18/2008 7:31 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
The so called "prophecies" of the bible are nothing more than drug induced hallucinations. The book of revelations is a drug soaked tale of the return of the gnostics god man to revenge them against the Romans which became the Church at the End of the Age of Pisces, and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius... the first and last signs of the ZODIAC... that evil astrology that the church condemns that is the basis of time itself.
You bible thumpers are worshipping an ancient collection of paganistic tales of astronomy, astrology, and shamanism (natural drugs.)
I suggest educating yourselves to the origins of religions... Christianity is the biggest hoax ever foisted upon mankind... you don't have to enforce the truth through centuries of persecution, torture, and murder like the Church did. Religion is for the ignorant and ill informed... make sure you pray to your big sky daddy for my eternal soul. |
| Ice
User ID: 453923
6/18/2008 7:42 PM
| | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
he said 3 BIG earthquakes in america in the month of June.I heard him say it on that radio program with ott.Then he came back on a few days later and said he may have missed it.whatever that means.guess he was prophesying for attention out of his own mind.
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Yep I think he is more concerned about big events happening before Oct.
I am not going to turn into the defend Pastor Matt guy. I know I am the one posting it but I am not the one saying it!
I am the one that thinks a nuke is going off in L.A. before Oct so I will stand on that one!
ice
HAHAHA So its already begun. First it was June now its OCT. Whats next DEC. Come on NANCY YOU CAN DO BETTER THEN THIS.
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Tmad1
whats up with this>>????
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453301
6/18/2008 7:47 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
The so called "prophecies" of the bible are nothing more than drug induced hallucinations. The book of revelations is a drug soaked tale of the return of the gnostics god man to revenge them against the Romans which became the Church at the End of the Age of Pisces, and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius... the first and last signs of the ZODIAC... that evil astrology that the church condemns that is the basis of time itself.
You bible thumpers are worshipping an ancient collection of paganistic tales of astronomy, astrology, and shamanism (natural drugs.)
I suggest educating yourselves to the origins of religions... Christianity is the biggest hoax ever foisted upon mankind... you don't have to enforce the truth through centuries of persecution, torture, and murder like the Church did. Religion is for the ignorant and ill informed... make sure you pray to your big sky daddy for my eternal soul. Quoting: Caduceus 257757
ehhhh wrong answer  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453301
6/18/2008 7:48 PM | | Re: "When the Son of Man comes, it will be the same as when Noah lived. In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking and talking | Quote |
The so called "prophecies" of the bible are nothing more than drug induced hallucinations. The book of revelations is a drug soaked tale of the return of the gnostics god man to revenge them against the Romans which became the Church at the End of the Age of Pisces, and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius... the first and last signs of the ZODIAC... that evil astrology that the church condemns that is the basis of time itself.
You bible thumpers are worshipping an ancient collection of paganistic tales of astronomy, astrology, and shamanism (natural drugs.)
I suggest educating yourselves to the origins of religions... Christianity is the biggest hoax ever foisted upon mankind... you don't have to enforce the truth through centuries of persecution, torture, and murder like the Church did. Religion is for the ignorant and ill informed... make sure you pray to your big sky daddy for my eternal soul. Quoting: Caduceus 257757
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