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Concerned (OP) User ID: 456627 United States 06/23/2008 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would you jump to such a morbid conclusion? Assuming it's not just your imagination, it's probably just a change in his diet or something. If you're really concerned, get him screened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456621I know it must have sounded like a morbid conclusion. But, it's not. It has been a few months now and at first I thought it was his diet, or something that he was doing different. But, I'm beginning to think that something isn't right with his health. He's not the type that would let on or complain at all. So, of course, he's not talking! I'm going to talk to him about getting checked out. But, he isn't the type that goes to the doctor. So, this is going to be a chore! |
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C. User ID: 456383 United States 06/23/2008 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would you jump to such a morbid conclusion? Assuming it's not just your imagination, it's probably just a change in his diet or something. If you're really concerned, get him screened. Quoting: Concerned 456627I know it must have sounded like a morbid conclusion. But, it's not. It has been a few months now and at first I thought it was his diet, or something that he was doing different. But, I'm beginning to think that something isn't right with his health. He's not the type that would let on or complain at all. So, of course, he's not talking! I'm going to talk to him about getting checked out. But, he isn't the type that goes to the doctor. So, this is going to be a chore! So WTF are you smelling??? I know what rain smells like. Is it something like that? That's the only analogy I can think of. |
[^.^] vishuz! User ID: 432360 United States 06/23/2008 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you like.. describe this scent that you are sensing.. please? The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 455159 United States 06/23/2008 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A chiropractor told me that he can smell the difference when patients get certain types of cancer. He didn't describe it though. Lots of things could cause body chemistry/odor changes. Auto-immune issues, some infections, exposure to chemicals or changes in diet can all cause a difference. Can't hurt to get him in for a check up. Though it can be hard to get some men to notice subtle changes in bowel, body pains or other signals, try to get him to pay attention for a few days. Any anomalies noted will help your physician know to take a closer look. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 341677 United States 06/23/2008 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason that I ask is because I've noticed lately that my husband has a different type of smell. It's as if his body chemistry has changed or something. I can't really describe the smell, but I'm hoping that one of you know what I'm talking about. Quoting: Concerned 456627There's a definite chance, as some dogs seem to be able to locate cancerous spots on people. Hard to quantify though. - |
Concerned (OP) User ID: 456627 United States 06/23/2008 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try talking to a few doctors and explain to them what you think. Well, good luck, and I hope everything works out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456621Thanks. A friend of mine works at the hospital and she is going to ask some doctors tomorrow what would cause such a drastic change in his body chemistry. We've been married for 17 years. If there's one thing I know after 17 years, it's the way my husband smells. |
C. User ID: 456383 United States 06/23/2008 03:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try talking to a few doctors and explain to them what you think. Well, good luck, and I hope everything works out. Quoting: Concerned 456627Thanks. A friend of mine works at the hospital and she is going to ask some doctors tomorrow what would cause such a drastic change in his body chemistry. We've been married for 17 years. If there's one thing I know after 17 years, it's the way my husband smells. Yeah, that's true. But you're jumping crazy. Jeez, maybe he's just aging or eating too much garlic. The scare tactics at work. Relax. We're not all gonna die today. |
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Concerned (OP) User ID: 456627 United States 06/23/2008 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A chiropractor told me that he can smell the difference when patients get certain types of cancer. He didn't describe it though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 455159Lots of things could cause body chemistry/odor changes. Auto-immune issues, some infections, exposure to chemicals or changes in diet can all cause a difference. Can't hurt to get him in for a check up. Though it can be hard to get some men to notice subtle changes in bowel, body pains or other signals, try to get him to pay attention for a few days. Any anomalies noted will help your physician know to take a closer look. Thanks for the advice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 413801 United States 06/23/2008 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF he is willing to go to the doctor - get him there! There are lots of ailments very easily treated at the get go but can morph into bigger problems if left alone. I found this article if it helps: [link to www.school-for-champions.com] When Doctors Used to Smell by Ron Kurtus (revised 25 May 2003) At one time, family physicians used their sense of smell to help diagnose the illness or disease of a patient. That practice has gone by the wayside in the past years. Perhaps it would be a good idea if doctors would learn and use this technique again. Questions you may have include: How did doctors use smell to detect illnesses? Why did the practice disappear? What advantages can it have over modern techniques? This lesson will answer those questions. There is a mini-quiz near the end of the lesson. Health Disclaimer Smelling disease When you are sick or have some ailment, your body chemistry changes in order to fight the illness or as a response to some disorder. Changes in body chemistry can be detected in the blood, urine and perspiration of the person. A sick person's urine and perspiration have distinct odors that are different than normal. Can smell what you ate The smell of your urine and perspiration are also affected by what you eat and drink. For example, after eating asparagus, your urine gets very smelly. Also, you can smell the distinct odor coming from a person who has been drinking alcohol excessively the night before. Mothers know their babies Test have been done to show that were able to identify their babies, simply by the child's smell. Also, a mother can often tell if her baby is sick by smell. Doctors smelled their patients Family doctors used to be able to tell what ails a patient by including how the person smelled, during the examination. (Of course, this was also done in the times when doctors actually made house calls.) Ailments result in the body giving off distinct odors. For example, apparently liver problems result in an almond odor. Modern techniques The present techniques to determine what ailment a person has consists of a cursory exam and then a series of chemical tests, perhaps along with x-rays and other high technology examinations. Not all aids used During the physical exam, the doctor may ask questions and look and touch areas of concern. This is where using smell to aid in the examination seems to have diminished or gone away completely. One reason is that doctors are not taught this technique in school anymore. Dependence on measurements There is a much greater dependence on laboratory measurements to determine results. This standardizes the examinations and also relieves the doctor of liability due to faulty judgment. Unfortunately, dependence on laboratory results may often miss other indicators that can point to an ailment. Diagnosis of disease and other human problems is somewhat of a science, but it is so complex that in reality it is an art. Advantages of using smell It is obvious that including using the smell of a person as an aid to diagnosis can only help the accuracy. But there is another advantage. The medical profession has become so impersonal that perhaps using something like smelling the patient can help to bring together a closer doctor-patient relationship. Summary People smell different when sick, and doctors used to include how the patient smelled as part of their examinations. Presently, diagnosis is dependent in on lab results. Including how a person smells in the diagnosis of an ailment not only would improve accuracy, but it would also improve the doctor-patient relationship. Answers to Readers' Questions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maintain your health by being aware of yourself |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 456641 United States 06/23/2008 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys obviously have never had a very close signifigant other. Probably no signifigant others to speak of. Anyway, men and women who are in close contact for some time can very often pick up a pleasant smell from the other partner which I believe has to do with "sexual chemistry". I've had 2 women tell me they pick this up from me, while I didn't pick it up from them. 1 woman, whom I am now married to, can pick this up from me while I pick it up from her as well. It is a very good smell, almost sweet but not. It is indescribable actually. I'd say what your smelling on your husband may be something to be concerned about actually. |
Wasayo nli User ID: 456644 Netherlands 06/23/2008 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, cancer does have a certain smell from what I've heard, and dogs can detect it. We have one dog who has cancer, and all of the others are constantly sniffing him. Years ago, I had a girlfriend who had breast cancer. We all went out to lunch, and as she turned to speak with me, I smelled the most horrible scent coming from deep within her throat. It smelled like dead, rotting meat and once you smell something like that, you never forget it. I knew right then that she was dying. We helped her go to a wheat grass clinic, and she lasted 3 more years. OP, I hope your husband turns out to be okay. I sure do understand your worrying about this. Wasayo |
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Concerned (OP) User ID: 456627 United States 06/23/2008 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My brother had a bad kind of cancer and went untreated for 10 years. He agreed to go to the emergencey room for a bad cough (we thought he might have had pnuemonia) which led to lots of testing and evaluations. Basically it was everywhere and he lived only 3 months after that. He did have a very strong oder he would also wear a strong cologne but nothing could mask it. I have on occassion smelled that scent on other people and I know they are sick. My mother also had cancer that went untreated for many years - I didn't notice any scent with her. The hygene practices were vastly different between them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 413801IF he is willing to go to the doctor - get him there! There are lots of ailments very easily treated at the get go but can morph into bigger problems if left alone. I found this article if it helps: [link to www.school-for-champions.com] When Doctors Used to Smell by Ron Kurtus (revised 25 May 2003) At one time, family physicians used their sense of smell to help diagnose the illness or disease of a patient. That practice has gone by the wayside in the past years. Perhaps it would be a good idea if doctors would learn and use this technique again. Questions you may have include: How did doctors use smell to detect illnesses? Why did the practice disappear? What advantages can it have over modern techniques? This lesson will answer those questions. There is a mini-quiz near the end of the lesson. Health Disclaimer Smelling disease When you are sick or have some ailment, your body chemistry changes in order to fight the illness or as a response to some disorder. Changes in body chemistry can be detected in the blood, urine and perspiration of the person. A sick person's urine and perspiration have distinct odors that are different than normal. Can smell what you ate The smell of your urine and perspiration are also affected by what you eat and drink. For example, after eating asparagus, your urine gets very smelly. Also, you can smell the distinct odor coming from a person who has been drinking alcohol excessively the night before. Mothers know their babies Test have been done to show that were able to identify their babies, simply by the child's smell. Also, a mother can often tell if her baby is sick by smell. Doctors smelled their patients Family doctors used to be able to tell what ails a patient by including how the person smelled, during the examination. (Of course, this was also done in the times when doctors actually made house calls.) Ailments result in the body giving off distinct odors. For example, apparently liver problems result in an almond odor. Modern techniques The present techniques to determine what ailment a person has consists of a cursory exam and then a series of chemical tests, perhaps along with x-rays and other high technology examinations. Not all aids used During the physical exam, the doctor may ask questions and look and touch areas of concern. This is where using smell to aid in the examination seems to have diminished or gone away completely. One reason is that doctors are not taught this technique in school anymore. Dependence on measurements There is a much greater dependence on laboratory measurements to determine results. This standardizes the examinations and also relieves the doctor of liability due to faulty judgment. Unfortunately, dependence on laboratory results may often miss other indicators that can point to an ailment. Diagnosis of disease and other human problems is somewhat of a science, but it is so complex that in reality it is an art. Advantages of using smell It is obvious that including using the smell of a person as an aid to diagnosis can only help the accuracy. But there is another advantage. The medical profession has become so impersonal that perhaps using something like smelling the patient can help to bring together a closer doctor-patient relationship. Summary People smell different when sick, and doctors used to include how the patient smelled as part of their examinations. Presently, diagnosis is dependent in on lab results. Including how a person smells in the diagnosis of an ailment not only would improve accuracy, but it would also improve the doctor-patient relationship. Answers to Readers' Questions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maintain your health by being aware of yourself Sorry to hear about your brother & Mom. That was a very interesting article you found. Thank you! I've always been able to tell if my children have strep throat (before I even look for the white on the tonsils) by the smell. Strep throat has a very unique smell. I can't imagine cancer "not" having a smell. Whatever my husband has going on in his body, I'm sure he needs to get checked out. Something has definitely changed!Maybe it isn't anything to worry about, but, I'd rather him get checked out to be on the safe side. |
Concerned (OP) User ID: 456627 United States 06/23/2008 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys obviously have never had a very close signifigant other. Probably no signifigant others to speak of. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456641Anyway, men and women who are in close contact for some time can very often pick up a pleasant smell from the other partner which I believe has to do with "sexual chemistry". I've had 2 women tell me they pick this up from me, while I didn't pick it up from them. 1 woman, whom I am now married to, can pick this up from me while I pick it up from her as well. It is a very good smell, almost sweet but not. It is indescribable actually. I'd say what your smelling on your husband may be something to be concerned about actually. Very well said. Thank you! What some people don't seem to understand is this...When you spend that much time with a loved one, you know their "smell" so to speak. When all of a sudden it changes drastically, it is something to be concerned about. |
Concerned (OP) User ID: 456627 United States 06/23/2008 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, cancer does have a certain smell from what I've heard, and dogs can detect it. We have one dog who has cancer, and all of the others are constantly sniffing him. Quoting: Wasayo nli 456644Years ago, I had a girlfriend who had breast cancer. We all went out to lunch, and as she turned to speak with me, I smelled the most horrible scent coming from deep within her throat. It smelled like dead, rotting meat and once you smell something like that, you never forget it. I knew right then that she was dying. We helped her go to a wheat grass clinic, and she lasted 3 more years. OP, I hope your husband turns out to be okay. I sure do understand your worrying about this. Wasayo Thanks for responding Wasayo. I'm sorry to hear about your girlfriend. (and your dog that has cancer) Thanks for your concern. I'm glad some of you understand what I'm talking about! |
Concerned (OP) User ID: 456627 United States 06/23/2008 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before you start freaking out about these last few posts, remember what kind of message board this is. Take everything with a grain of salt. But since this is such a serious matter, I would certainly try to get him screened or at least just see a doctor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456621Don't worry, I'm not freaking out, just concerned. I'm going to mention the change in his body chemistry to him and see if he is having some other symptoms. Like I said earlier, he isn't one to complain, AT ALL! So, if I don't notice these types of things, he won't tell me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 413801 United States 06/23/2008 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope all goes well. You sound very in tune with your husband and if he is ill it is probably very early and very treatable. I don't want to scare anyone with my post. I would like to clarifiy that my family members knew they had cancer and chose not to treat. It took approximately 10 years in both cases. My father at 80 just finished chemo for yet another type of cancer - and he is fine! Thank God for a sane fasther who listens to doctors and follows advice! His ordeal took 3 months - his hair grew back and he is gardening and tincker with as much vigor as ever! Cancer doesn't have to be the end - it is very often treatable. I am so proud of my Dad! |
Mostly Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 452724 United States 06/23/2008 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are so many things that could cause a change in smell. Change of diet, environment, activity, etc. Those changes in smell are much more predominant and easier to notice. The sour milk smell sounds a little like he has been perspirating and hasn't showered since then. Maybe he has picked up exercising or his job has caused him to be more physical. Whatever it turns out to be, I hope it works out. Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
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