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so I stopped by to check out my local masonic eastern star temple

 
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so I stopped by to check out my local masonic eastern star temple
strange thing, they had a hotdog vendor outside, like it was a happening spot.

the vendor wasn't a regular hotdog vendor, it was a vendor owned by the local Harley and dirtbike shop, advertized with a banner. I didn't say anything, to him, just walked past like I had business there.

the door was open, so I just strolled in. big old building like a museum with antique furniture and fixtures. it was completely empty, just a couple old men at the bar off the main hall. I didn't really want to talk to them or anyone, so I didn't go into the bar, just throughout the building.

although it was absolutely impeccable, like they have a live in housekeeper, the hallway smelt so sick and putred, like old blood and piss had saturated the floor, during a sacrificial ritual, OR SOMETHING, I don't know their practices. the "energy" in that hallway felt very very very chaotic wrong and evil.

does anyone know what takes place at a masonic lodge eastern star temple when the doors are closed to the public?? do they sacrifice animals?? or people??

as I walked down the temple steps, releived to be in the fresh air, the hotdog stand guy spat on the ground as a clear sign of disrespect. he thought I was one of "them".

who are the eastern star temple masons, and what "god" do they worship? what are their practices? if anyone knows please share the info, ok

GOD BLESS
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are the free masons actually pedifile cult?

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i moved back to my home state in the midwest last week, and I see those stupid Masonic G symbols with their compass everywhere! I want to go egg their stupid building, and draw a huge upside down star on their sign at the entrance to my town.
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are the free masons actually pedifile cult?

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isn't it funny that they fund and run so many hospitals, daycare centers, etc specifically for children?

kinda makes ya wonder
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Every morning I walk down an alley past a lodge, which is, in our town, an old, historic building.

I always look in the windows.

Most of the shades are drawn.

When they are up, I see administrative type offices with filing cabinets and such... nothing untoward.

Usually it looks like no one is there.

They sure have some filing cabinets, though.
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although it was absolutely impeccable, like they have a live in housekeeper, the hallway smelt so sick and putred, like old blood and piss had saturated the floor, during a sacrificial ritual, OR SOMETHING, I don't know their practices. the "energy" in that hallway felt very very very chaotic wrong and evil.

does anyone know what takes place at a masonic lodge eastern star temple when the doors are closed to the public?? do they sacrifice animals?? or people??

who are the eastern star temple masons, and what "god" do they worship? what are their practices? if anyone knows please share the info, ok

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No animal or people sacrifices whatsoever.

Their closed meetings are a ritual where everyone has their part to say memorized, for instance, you can look through this Duncan's Ritual online to get an idea of the types of things they say and do in the meetings.
[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

They also discuss charitable projects and activities, fund raising projects, regional and state meetings and who are they going to send to them, etc. Elections of officers, things like that, initiation of new members, etc.

Their God is not the form of a man sitting on a throne in the sky. They are Deists, believers in the highest Creator or Great Spirit who is over and above all religions.
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The masonic secret



You have just been converted to Catholic


The lower degree Freemason is told they are Protestant and opposed to Catholicism. As the victim works his way through the degrees reading the masonic literature they are filled with Catholic dogma, such as, secular humanism-evolution and that all religions are control devices of the state, and the only true religion is sun worshipping, and that the Catholic Church wrote the Bible, it is not really the Word of God and other such Catholic beliefs. After the mason has had what little belief he had in the Word of God destroyed sufficiently he has worked his way to the degree high enough to learn who really runs the world, being the Vatican and its counter-reformation and that Protestant Christians are in fact the problem. Next the new Catholic mason is ready for Knighthood to better serve the Church in Rome towards a New World Order or revived Holy Roman Empire Papal States.
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The file cabinets could be recording everyones bloodlines, kinda like the LDS.
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Secret meetings, secret signs, handshakes and passwords were developed during periods when the established church would persecute and kill those who didn't believe in the current government religion, like during the rule of the Roman Catholic church when the Pope was in control and there was no religious freedom anywhere in Europe.
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You have just been converted to Catholic


The lower degree Freemason is told they are Protestant and opposed to Catholicism. As the victim works his way through the degrees reading the masonic literature they are filled with Catholic dogma, such as, secular humanism-evolution and that all religions are control devices of the state, and the only true religion is sun worshipping, and that the Catholic Church wrote the Bible, it is not really the Word of God and other such Catholic beliefs. After the mason has had what little belief he had in the Word of God destroyed sufficiently he has worked his way to the degree high enough to learn who really runs the world, being the Vatican and its counter-reformation and that Protestant Christians are in fact the problem. Next the new Catholic mason is ready for Knighthood to better serve the Church in Rome towards a New World Order or revived Holy Roman Empire Papal States.
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Well, this explains Tony Blair.
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I've never noticed an "Eastern Star" temple or lodge. I'm pretty sure the "Eastern Star" part of freemasonry is for women only. I don't know if they are allowed into the lodges. Maybe they meet there on a different day than the men do.

I'm not a Mason myself, but I have discussed the precession of the equinoxes and the "crucifixion" of the "SUN of God" on the solar cross with a mason. I even pointed out to him that the IMAGE of a "DEAD crucified man"(with the SUN behind his head) hanging on the cross of the "SUN of God" is a FALSE IMAGE of the PISCEAN SUN, and I pointed out to him that the constellation of AQUARIUS was the SIGN of the BAPTIZER. I also pointed out to him that the AGE of the "SUN of God" that "came out of (the horizon of) EGYPT" and "fed the multitude with TWO FISH" should have prepared the way for the AGE of the "SUN of God" that "came out of (the horizon of) EGYPT" in the IMAGE of the "man bearing a pitcher of water"(the BAPTIZER) with the "power and authority" to "baptize" and "pour out" God's blessing on all. I also pointed out to him that the SIGN of the BAPTIZER is a "man with bent knees", instead of "broken knees". He mubbled something about "Jesus" being the "first man", and I said that "the BAPTIZER" was the "first man". He was totally oblivious to any of my agruements are observations. He was a fairly low level mason though, I think. He said he was aware of precession and the solar cross, so I don't see how he didn't understand that "Jesus" is only a solar myth. He seemed pretty convincing that he actually believed "Jesus" was the "SON of God" and not the "SUN of God" PERSONIFIED.
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I've never noticed an "Eastern Star" temple or lodge. I'm pretty sure the "Eastern Star" part of freemasonry is for women only. I don't know if they are allowed into the lodges. Maybe they meet there on a different day than the men do.
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They are the wives or daughters of the Masons. They use the same lodge room on different nights than the Masons and their rituals are different from the men's rituals.
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I've never noticed an "Eastern Star" temple or lodge. I'm pretty sure the "Eastern Star" part of freemasonry is for women only. I don't know if they are allowed into the lodges. Maybe they meet there on a different day than the men do.

They are the wives or daughters of the Masons. They use the same lodge room on different nights than the Masons and their rituals are different from the men's rituals.
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This is so true, I'm going to have to do something I RARELY do. Here you go, OP:

bsflag

I don't know any personally, but the information about the Eastern Star is out there and available.
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bump
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You have just been converted to Catholic


The lower degree Freemason is told they are Protestant and opposed to Catholicism. As the victim works his way through the degrees reading the masonic literature they are filled with Catholic dogma, such as, secular humanism-evolution and that all religions are control devices of the state, and the only true religion is sun worshipping, and that the Catholic Church wrote the Bible, it is not really the Word of God and other such Catholic beliefs. After the mason has had what little belief he had in the Word of God destroyed sufficiently he has worked his way to the degree high enough to learn who really runs the world, being the Vatican and its counter-reformation and that Protestant Christians are in fact the problem. Next the new Catholic mason is ready for Knighthood to better serve the Church in Rome towards a New World Order or revived Holy Roman Empire Papal States.

Well, this explains Tony Blair.
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GOOD catch there, 957.
You're on your toes!
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I don't know how to embed an image, but here is a photograph of an 'Eastern Star' license plate; an old next door neighbor:

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are the free masons actually pedifile cult?

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isn't it funny that they fund and run so many hospitals, daycare centers, etc specifically for children?

kinda makes ya wonder
 Quoting: Aresh


yeah, for burned and disfigured children.

think about that for a minute


Nice front.

Had one call me about donating to
send children to the circus. Asked me if I knew
what the Shriners were about.
I said,"Yes sir, I sure as hell do!" and hung up.

I was afraid to say more than that.
He was a creepy asshole and I suppose they could really
fuck with you if they knew you were on to them.

They are evil and they are everywhere and their
victems end up on milk cartons and the bulleton board at
Walmart.
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die evil
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OP! Why do you seem so stupid?
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strange thing, they had a hotdog vendor outside, like it was a happening spot.

the vendor wasn't a regular hotdog vendor, it was a vendor owned by the local Harley and dirtbike shop, advertized with a banner. I didn't say anything, to him, just walked past like I had business there.

the door was open, so I just strolled in. big old building like a museum with antique furniture and fixtures. it was completely empty, just a couple old men at the bar off the main hall. I didn't really want to talk to them or anyone, so I didn't go into the bar, just throughout the building.

although it was absolutely impeccable, like they have a live in housekeeper, the hallway smelt so sick and putred, like old blood and piss had saturated the floor, during a sacrificial ritual, OR SOMETHING, I don't know their practices. the "energy" in that hallway felt very very very chaotic wrong and evil.


as I walked down the temple steps, releived to be in the fresh air, the hotdog stand guy spat on the ground as a clear sign of disrespect. he thought I was one of "them".


GOD BLESS
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I think you must have been mistaken and actually walked into a gay bar during the daytime, that's why there were just a couple of old men at the bar. Maybe the hotdog vendor spitting as a "sign of disrespect". Maybe he did think you were one of "them".
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I once was given a tour of a masonic temple, and God knows why, but they took us into a room that had a large (over ft diameter) upside pentagram hanging from the ceiling. When I saw that my jaw dropped and I left as soon as possible! This is the truth!
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strange thing, they had a hotdog vendor outside, like it was a happening spot.

the vendor wasn't a regular hotdog vendor, it was a vendor owned by the local Harley and dirtbike shop, advertized with a banner.
 Quoting: just curious about the cult 456978

OMG - the hot-dog is symbolic of the cut up body of Osiris and the biker-dude is SET himself getting rid of the body. ahhh
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I've never noticed an "Eastern Star" temple or lodge. I'm pretty sure the "Eastern Star" part of freemasonry is for women only. I don't know if they are allowed into the lodges. Maybe they meet there on a different day than the men do.

I'm not a Mason myself, but I have discussed the precession of the equinoxes and the "crucifixion" of the "SUN of God" on the solar cross with a mason. I even pointed out to him that the IMAGE of a "DEAD crucified man"(with the SUN behind his head) hanging on the cross of the "SUN of God" is a FALSE IMAGE of the PISCEAN SUN, and I pointed out to him that the constellation of AQUARIUS was the SIGN of the BAPTIZER. I also pointed out to him that the AGE of the "SUN of God" that "came out of (the horizon of) EGYPT" and "fed the multitude with TWO FISH" should have prepared the way for the AGE of the "SUN of God" that "came out of (the horizon of) EGYPT" in the IMAGE of the "man bearing a pitcher of water"(the BAPTIZER) with the "power and authority" to "baptize" and "pour out" God's blessing on all. I also pointed out to him that the SIGN of the BAPTIZER is a "man with bent knees", instead of "broken knees". He mubbled something about "Jesus" being the "first man", and I said that "the BAPTIZER" was the "first man". He was totally oblivious to any of my agruements are observations. He was a fairly low level mason though, I think. He said he was aware of precession and the solar cross, so I don't see how he didn't understand that "Jesus" is only a solar myth. He seemed pretty convincing that he actually believed "Jesus" was the "SON of God" and not the "SUN of God" PERSONIFIED.
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Do any of you idiots realize English isn't the only language. And wasn't in history. And wasn't in Biblical times?

Just curious, because I keep seeing similar bullshit pointing out Sun/Son. Which means nothing - unless in English.
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A few years ago I never knew what this stuff was all about.
But then I read up on it. My old competition ... the town's oldest jeweler is a shriner and his son is involved in freemasonary as well. I began to notice what I thought was weird...in his newspaper advertising, he would put things
at 29% off or 33% off, where I hadn't noticed that before.
He would advertise scarabs. I felt these masons tried to
discredit me and my business as well. I was convinced this
owner sent people in...other masons began coming in. One guy who had a business next door to mine who was about my age liked me and did business with me. He is also a shriner and his son is in that demolay thing. But he bought an expensive piece and said if this other business owner/shriner ever found out that he bought from me, "He would kill me."
And he kept repeating it. I tried to blow it off and act like I didn't know what he meant but I did. I figure that these upstanding people of the community who "do so much" will find their works cannot get them into heaven. Most people just associate them with the red fez hat and riding around in their motorcycles during parades...the hospitals.
Pillars of the community.
I used to go to the same church as this old guy's son and he
would give me dirty looks...and he is as arrogant as they come. And he didn't even know me. People knew me as a joke cracking, smiling, keep your nose clean, family-oriented, ethical business woman. Some day this stuff will all be brought to light. I got out of the business and have a real burden lifted from me.
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Just wanted to add that one day my husband and I drove by the Temple where it is in the neighboring town. It looks like an old white house but the windows are all small rectangles and way up high so there is no chance anyone can
look inside, like it was designed just for that purpose.
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FYI - Masons don't piss on the floors and they don't do blood sacrifice. Really!
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A few years ago I never knew what this stuff was all about.
But then I read up on it. My old competition ... the town's oldest jeweler is a shriner and his son is involved in freemasonary as well. I began to notice what I thought was weird...in his newspaper advertising, he would put things
at 29% off or 33% off, where I hadn't noticed that before.
He would advertise scarabs. I felt these masons tried to
discredit me and my business as well. I was convinced this
owner sent people in...other masons began coming in. One guy who had a business next door to mine who was about my age liked me and did business with me. He is also a shriner and his son is in that demolay thing. But he bought an expensive piece and said if this other business owner/shriner ever found out that he bought from me, "He would kill me."
And he kept repeating it. I tried to blow it off and act like I didn't know what he meant but I did. I figure that these upstanding people of the community who "do so much" will find their works cannot get them into heaven. Most people just associate them with the red fez hat and riding around in their motorcycles during parades...the hospitals.
Pillars of the community.
I used to go to the same church as this old guy's son and he
would give me dirty looks...and he is as arrogant as they come. And he didn't even know me. People knew me as a joke cracking, smiling, keep your nose clean, family-oriented, ethical business woman. Some day this stuff will all be brought to light. I got out of the business and have a real burden lifted from me.
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Truth in these words.

Have had a similar experience, and many more.
They get pissed and deny when you ask them what are they doing in the daycares with their programs
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I've seen a few buildings. Most of the ones here look abandoned or unkept. I only see old men there when there are people there. I don't see young people at these buildings.

They have windows that are bricked over. Pretty much the same as many older brick buildings. I just don't think they have enough funds to keep it up.

I really doubt they urinate on the floors or sacrifice animals. I do think they are in the wrong having secrets, but that is up to them (at least, as long as they do NOT affect society).
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no
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although it was absolutely impeccable, like they have a live in housekeeper, the hallway smelt so sick and putred, like old blood and piss had saturated the floor, during a sacrificial ritual, OR SOMETHING, I don't know their practices. the "energy" in that hallway felt very very very chaotic wrong and evil.

does anyone know what takes place at a masonic lodge eastern star temple when the doors are closed to the public?? do they sacrifice animals?? or people??

who are the eastern star temple masons, and what "god" do they worship? what are their practices? if anyone knows please share the info, ok



No animal or people sacrifices whatsoever.

Their closed meetings are a ritual where everyone has their part to say memorized, for instance, you can look through this Duncan's Ritual online to get an idea of the types of things they say and do in the meetings.
[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

They also discuss charitable projects and activities, fund raising projects, regional and state meetings and who are they going to send to them, etc. Elections of officers, things like that, initiation of new members, etc.

Their God is not the form of a man sitting on a throne in the sky. They are Deists, believers in the highest Creator or Great Spirit who is over and above all religions.
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While there are a few Deists, most that I have met, at least in the US are protestant christian.
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You have just been converted to Catholic


The lower degree Freemason is told they are Protestant and opposed to Catholicism. As the victim works his way through the degrees reading the masonic literature they are filled with Catholic dogma, such as, secular humanism-evolution and that all religions are control devices of the state, and the only true religion is sun worshipping, and that the Catholic Church wrote the Bible, it is not really the Word of God and other such Catholic beliefs. After the mason has had what little belief he had in the Word of God destroyed sufficiently he has worked his way to the degree high enough to learn who really runs the world, being the Vatican and its counter-reformation and that Protestant Christians are in fact the problem. Next the new Catholic mason is ready for Knighthood to better serve the Church in Rome towards a New World Order or revived Holy Roman Empire Papal States.
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Wrong..........again!

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