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Soldier shot dead as President Sarkozy boards plane in Israel. Was it suicide, an accident or a thwarted assassination attempt? (video)

 
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Scare as Sarkozy departs Israel
BBC NEWS
Page last updated at 15:55 GMT, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 16:55 UK

Confusion has marred French President Nicolas Sarkozy's farewell to Israel, after a soldier shot himself dead during an airport departure ceremony.

Mr Sarkozy and his wife, Carla Bruni, were rushed into their plane after the shot. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was also hurried to safety.

The incident at Ben-Gurion airport came at the end of Mr Sarkozy's three-day visit to Israel and the West Bank.

A police spokesman said the security officer had committed suicide.

Spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the incident, which happened just as Mr Sarkozy and Ms Bruni were about to board their plane, had posed no threat to the visitors.

He denied reports that it might have been an assassination attempt on the French president. Other reports suggested the soldier may have shot himself accidentally.

Witnesses said the incident was over within minutes and that Mr Olmert had then boarded the Sarkozys' plane to say farewell and explain what had happened.

'A priority'

Israel Radio reported that the soldier had been stationed on the perimeter of the airport, some 100m to 200m (330 - 660 feet) from the Sarkozys' plane, when he shot himself as a band played.

Television footage showed the French president and his wife being hustled up the steps into the aircraft.

Israeli President Shimon Peres, who was also present for the farewell ceremony, was also taken to his armoured car.

Mr Sarkozy's visit was intended to improve relations between France and Israel.

He also held talks in the West Bank on Tuesday with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.

Speaking after the meeting, Mr Sarkozy voiced his support for the creation of a Palestinian state.

"The security of Israel is non-negotiable for France, but the creation of a viable, democratic, modern state for the Palestinians is a priority for France," he said.

He also repeated his call for Israel to halt its building of settlements in the West Bank.

It came a day after he told Israeli politicians in the Knesset that there would be no lasting Middle East peace without a freeze on Jewish settlement construction on Palestinian land.

Mr Abbas said the Palestinians were "relying a great deal on the European role" in the peace process, particularly as France takes on the rotating European Union presidency next month.
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Now, why would a soldier decide to kill himself at such a moment? I find that very unlikely. So, did he shoot himself in a bizarre accident? Possibly. Or was this or the less plausible suicide theory just the cover story released after the soldier was secretly shot dead to thwart an assassination?
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How close was the "suicider". From the video, he wasn't close to the plane, but close enough that the shot fired was heard? The security people seemed to be more concerned about Sarkozys wife than him?
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Crank your speakers up. At 18 seconds you hear 2 shots....then a third at 21 seconds. Anyone familiar with firearms will tell you that was not an atuomatic burst, 3 round, or full auto. Whoever got shot, either got double tapped, with a third to make sure, or got 2 rounds off, then shot. No way that was a suicide unless the guy missed with the first 2 and pigs depart from that airport.
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He's right....three, maybe four shots. I think I might even hear some sort of electronic zapping....maybe a defense laser coming online or something? And right at the end before Wolf Blitzer starts talking....I think....someone breaks wind. I might be wrong.
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Well, 3 shots does seem to invalidate the suicide story. Could be a partial truth type story, i.e., the assassin would have been on a suicidal mission?
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He's right....three, maybe four shots. I think I might even hear some sort of electronic zapping....maybe a defense laser coming online or something? And right at the end before Wolf Blitzer starts talking....I think....someone breaks wind. I might be wrong.
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I got to get a better speaker system. I'm missing out on all the good stuff:)
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All these recent suicides are creating a new suicide epidemic, don't you think?
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suicide? BS
accident? BS
what did happen then?
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Maybe the assassin took two shots at Sarkozy that missed then killed himself as programmed.
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Re: Soldier shot dead as President Sarkozy boards plane in Israel. Was it suicide, an accident or a thwarted assassination attempt? (video)
He's right....three, maybe four shots. I think I might even hear some sort of electronic zapping....maybe a defense laser coming online or something? And right at the end before Wolf Blitzer starts talking....I think....someone breaks wind. I might be wrong.

I got to get a better speaker system. I'm missing out on all the good stuff:)
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Yeah. It's surround sound. You should here it when I play "Everybody Love Raymond". There's some fucked up shit on that show.
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It was a WARNING to France to get with the program over Iran.
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All these recent suicides are creating a new suicide epidemic, don't you think?
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These pretzels are making me thirsty..
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It was a WARNING to France to get with the program over Iran.
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Nonsense - Sarkozy is the most pro-Israel guy in Europe..
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Re: Soldier shot dead as President Sarkozy boards plane in Israel. Was it suicide, an accident or a thwarted assassination attempt? (video)
Crank your speakers up. At 18 seconds you hear 2 shots....then a third at 21 seconds. Anyone familiar with firearms will tell you that was not an atuomatic burst, 3 round, or full auto. Whoever got shot, either got double tapped, with a third to make sure, or got 2 rounds off, then shot. No way that was a suicide unless the guy missed with the first 2 and pigs depart from that airport.
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No, 4 shots from an automatic gun a clearly heard at second 40 in this video (take your earphones), 20 seconds after Sarkozy was in secure.

Scary...
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I really wish all these conspiracy theorists would stop blaming Dick Cheney every time somone gets shot in the face.

He was nowhere near the airport damn-it!!
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Welp....the video is changed now, and there is very fake sounding single shot inserted at around 7 seconds or so now. I know what I heard....welcome to the game...;)
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It was a WARNING to France to get with the program over Iran.

Nonsense - Sarkozy is the most pro-Israel guy in Europe..
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Yeah, and today he proposed an independent Palestine with a shared capital with Israel.

Co-inky-dink????
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Crank your speakers up. At 18 seconds you hear 2 shots....then a third at 21 seconds. Anyone familiar with firearms will tell you that was not an atuomatic burst, 3 round, or full auto. Whoever got shot, either got double tapped, with a third to make sure, or got 2 rounds off, then shot. No way that was a suicide unless the guy missed with the first 2 and pigs depart from that airport.


No, 4 shots from an automatic gun a clearly heard at second 40 in this video (take your earphones), 20 seconds after Sarkozy was in secure.

Scary...
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Ooops, the shots are heard beween second 38 and 39.
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suicide? BS
accident? BS
what did happen then?
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something ugly hidden there.
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It was a WARNING to France to get with the program over Iran.

Nonsense - Sarkozy is the most pro-Israel guy in Europe..
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Not after this attempted murder.
The Illuminati have finally realized that Israel is just a land like any other: It is no longer HOLY as they pretend us to believe!!!
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It was a WARNING to France to get with the program over Iran.

Nonsense - Sarkozy is the most pro-Israel guy in Europe..


Yeah, and today he proposed an independent Palestine with a shared capital with Israel.

Co-inky-dink????
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Israel has no problem with that. Just for the record though - he proposed a "modern, democratic state"..

HAMAS would be the ones who would have a problem with that - modern and democratic are not exactly their strong suit..
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Bush goes to the Vatican-Brown goes to Jeddah-Sarkozy goes to Israel. Hardly a day goes by now without the big cheeses are in the sky. What's going on?
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Crank your speakers up. At 18 seconds you hear 2 shots....then a third at 21 seconds. Anyone familiar with firearms will tell you that was not an atuomatic burst, 3 round, or full auto. Whoever got shot, either got double tapped, with a third to make sure, or got 2 rounds off, then shot. No way that was a suicide unless the guy missed with the first 2 and pigs depart from that airport.


No, 4 shots from an automatic gun a clearly heard at second 40 in this video (take your earphones), 20 seconds after Sarkozy was in secure.

Scary...


Ooops, the shots are heard beween second 38 and 39.
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Not anymore.......
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This is just the first in a series of assassination 'scares', each one carefully planned and executed, each one a little more serious than the previous, all designed to condition the people of the world, and intimidate the world leaders into submission, with the message, 'you're either with us, or against us, and we will take steps to eliminate you, should you choose to oppose us.'
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Crank your speakers up. At 18 seconds you hear 2 shots....then a third at 21 seconds. Anyone familiar with firearms will tell you that was not an atuomatic burst, 3 round, or full auto. Whoever got shot, either got double tapped, with a third to make sure, or got 2 rounds off, then shot. No way that was a suicide unless the guy missed with the first 2 and pigs depart from that airport.


No, 4 shots from an automatic gun a clearly heard at second 40 in this video (take your earphones), 20 seconds after Sarkozy was in secure.

Scary...


Ooops, the shots are heard beween second 38 and 39.

Not anymore.......
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Hey they changed the video!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Maybe the assassin took two shots at Sarkozy that missed then killed himself as programmed.
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Or he was "retired" after missing his target...
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Crank your speakers up. At 18 seconds you hear 2 shots....then a third at 21 seconds. Anyone familiar with firearms will tell you that was not an atuomatic burst, 3 round, or full auto. Whoever got shot, either got double tapped, with a third to make sure, or got 2 rounds off, then shot. No way that was a suicide unless the guy missed with the first 2 and pigs depart from that airport.


No, 4 shots from an automatic gun a clearly heard at second 40 in this video (take your earphones), 20 seconds after Sarkozy was in secure.

Scary...


Ooops, the shots are heard beween second 38 and 39.

Not anymore.......


Hey they changed the video!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep....read back.
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Robert Fisk: Today's despot is tomorrow's statesman

Millions believe Bashar al-Assad plotted murder. Now France is honouring him

Saturday, 21 June 2008


How are the mighty fallen, we used to say. Now we turn it round. How did the fallen become mighty again? Remember the "mad dog of the Middle East" – Reagan's stupid cliché – the "terrorist" sponsor who even sent a shipload of guns to the IRA? A certain Moammar Ghazzafi – there are 17 different ways of spelling his name in Latin script – was the crazed leader of Libya who wrote a mind-numbingly boring volume of pseudo philosophy called The Green Book and who wanted to mock the White House by calling his own palace the Green House until someone tipped him off that this would mean he would look even more of a cabbage than he already was.

Then suddenly, he gave up some imaginary weapons of mass destruction and Anthony Blair, now the commercial director of World Faith, went out to fawn over him in Tripoli and he was called "statesmanlike" by the absurd Jack Straw and then he was invited to Paris by the even more absurd Nicolas Sarkozy where he right royally made the French president look like a twat by behaving in an extremely unstatesmanlike way.

And now – bingo – Sarkozy has done it again. This time it's Bashar al-Assad, another presumed "sponsor of world terror" – this twaddle comes from Washington, of course – who will (if he accepts the invitation française) be in Paris on Bastille Day to take his place in the reviewing stand at the end of the Champs Elysées. The man whom millions of Lebanese believe plotted the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri in Beirut on 14 February 2005 will thus be receiving one of France's highest honours: to stand beside the French president as he reviews his military forces.

Le Canard Enchaîné, my favourite French newspaper, carried a wonderful cartoon this week in which an extremely good likeness of Bashar asks Sarkozy and the gorgeous Carla: "What is it exactly, your 14 July?" And Carla replies: "It's the end of a tyrant." And Sarkozy, almost lost for words, then adds: "Er – a king." Well quite. And both apply to Bashar, whose succession after his father's death in 2000 did rather suggest that Syria was now a caliphate (as Egypt will become if Uncle Hosni is succeeded by his son Gamal Mubarak). But seriously, how did Bashar, a hate-figure of the United States and an adjunct to Bush's crazed notion of the "axis of evil", get on the guest list? Sure he's been asked to attend France's spanking new "Union of the Mediterranean" (along with Ehud Olmert), but there's more to it than that.

For one thing, both he and Sarkozy smell American failure. The American disaster in Iraq – and in Afghanistan (a movie coming to your local cinema soon) – and its total failure to produce a peace between Israel and the Palestinians and the loss of Lebanon as its protégé (now that the pro-Syrian Hizbollah can veto America's friends in the parliamentary majority once there's a cabinet) means that France can move in among the wreckage for a second crack at le mandat français.

The tribunal to judge Hariri's murderers still does not exist and even Walid Jumblatt, my favourite Druze nihilist, has been in Saudi Arabia to ask the king to keep pushing for the court. He did the same in Washington, chatting to Bush and Gates and the rest along the same lines. But the United States has failed in the Middle East.

Bashar is thus to be allowed back into the civilised West, which Jacques Chirac once encouraged him to visit before feeling betrayed after Syria's apparent involvement in Hariri's murder. My own suspicion is that Baath party security was involved in the mass assasination, but not Bashar. Either way, it's only 17 months since Chirac's foreign minister, Philippe Douste-Blazy turned up in Beirut for the funeral of young Pierre Gemayel (assassinated, the usual fingers pointing towards Syria yet again) to announce that Chirac was "the best defender on earth of Lebanon's sovereignty". Now, it seems, Sarkozy is the best defender on earth of Syria's sovereignty. And of Bashar.

Of course, all this is presented in what I call the politics of candlelight. Olmert may meet Bashar al-Assad, the French tell us, and thus further their indirect peace talks. It's time to bring Syria in from the cold – which is why two of Sarkozy's top henchmen have been in Damascus, buttering up the Syrian president in the hope he won't turn down the trip. France will be able to encourage Bashar to behave in Lebanon, open an embassy in Beirut, delineate the Lebanese-Syrian border, blah, blah, blah. It's a reward, too, for Bashar's support for the Doha conference which ended – up to a point – Lebanon's latest bout of sectarian sickness, albeit to the advantage of Sister Syria herself.

Now the Lebanese parliamentary majority is groaning about Bashar's visit. So is France's largest Jewish organisation, although not very successfully; last time the Syrian president visited Paris, it symbolically blamed him for the Nazi Holocaust of Europe's Jews, which ended well over a decade before Bashar was born. Now even that elegant old butterfly from Libya is objecting to the "Union of the Mediterranean". Yes, the "statesmanlike" panjandrum Ghaddafi denounced the whole shebang with the immortal words: "We are not dogs to whom they throw bones." Sarkozy should have guessed. This was, after all, the same Ghaddafi who turned up at a non-aligned summit in old Yugoslavia – this from a former Serbian diplomat friend of mine – with a camel and a white horse, the first to provide milk, the second to ride through the streets of Belgrade en route to the conference. He got to keep the camel. The horse was banned.

But that's how things go when you see yourself as a "guide" – Ghaddafi's description of himself; oddly the very same term used by A Hitler – and there really is no knowing what happens to wayward folk when they climb on our wheel of fortune. We gave Kurt Waldheim an honourary knighthood, then withdrew it when we found out he had a dodgy Second World War past. We took away Ceausescu's knighthood when he was executed on Christmas Day. We loved Saddam when he tortured and killed all his communists – when mayor of Paris, Chirac fawned over him too – and when he invaded Iran, then hated him when he invaded Kuwait and were happy to see him hanged 17 years later.

Fear not, such a fate will not await Bashar. He will honour the downfall of the tyrant-king and he will no doubt receive economic help from France. And thus his people will not have to eat cake.
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Having been uable to see the vid on BBC, I found it on YouTube. Had been uploaded a few hours prior. Before I had a chance to watch it, it was removed. Yeah, somethings definitely up with all this!!
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Having been uable to see the vid on BBC, I found it on YouTube. Had been uploaded a few hours prior. Before I had a chance to watch it, it was removed. Yeah, somethings definitely up with all this!!
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Hmmmm...look back in your cache and see if you have the link still and post it. There is one vid on YT...and it's not the original. I tried to find the original else where....nothing so far....one Itilian news site with a dead vid player...java toast there. I'll see if I can find anything......
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Having been uable to see the vid on BBC, I found it on YouTube. Had been uploaded a few hours prior. Before I had a chance to watch it, it was removed. Yeah, somethings definitely up with all this!!

Hmmmm...look back in your cache and see if you have the link still and post it. There is one vid on YT...and it's not the original. I tried to find the original else where....nothing so far....one Itilian news site with a dead vid player...java toast there. I'll see if I can find anything......
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Ok, here is the video again:

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The 4 shoot are heard at 1:06.

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