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Emeraldlight (OP) User ID: 80816366 United States 03/09/2024 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He already did 2 years ago and Biden/Borris Johnson said Hell no! we will fight until the last standing Ukrainian grandmother holding an AK47 is felled on the front line. SLAVA Ukraine! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86184989 UK is the center of it all if there is a center-Switzerland and UK as best I can tell |
Emeraldlight (OP) User ID: 80816366 United States 03/09/2024 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China and Switzerland in push for Russia to join Ukraine peace summit Quoting: Emeraldlight [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Looks like a big push |
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Emeraldlight (OP) User ID: 80816366 United States 03/09/2024 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peace summit is nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222295 Read the article before posting this nonsense. Zelensky refuses to negotiate with Russia (in article). Russia must retreat + territorial intrgrity. I do understand Zelensky's position but he has no money and when China and Turkey and others start pushing we could have a different outcome. Failure to analyze and just assume what has happened will happen? It is called critical thinking to keep an open mind |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77222295 Netherlands 03/09/2024 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peace summit is nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222295 Read the article before posting this nonsense. Zelensky refuses to negotiate with Russia (in article). Russia must retreat + territorial intrgrity. I do understand Zelensky's position but he has no money and when China and Turkey and others start pushing we could have a different outcome. Failure to analyze and just assume what has happened will happen? It is called critical thinking to keep an open mind Nobody takes this peace summit serious, certainly not Russia. It is a collective west propaganda move before they intervene in Ukraine with troops. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77222295 Netherlands 03/09/2024 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zelensky already has security guarantees from the West. 10+ countries will intervene in Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222295 Not without money Kiev had direct talks with Russia in 2022. That failed thanks to London and Washington. Now they refuse direct talks with Russia. Russia is not taking this serious as they already signalled. |
Emeraldlight (OP) User ID: 80816366 United States 03/09/2024 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zelensky already has security guarantees from the West. 10+ countries will intervene in Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222295 Not without money Kiev had direct talks with Russia in 2022. That failed thanks to London and Washington. Now they refuse direct talks with Russia. Russia is not taking this serious as they already signalled. Again=where are the NATO drills that were to start in Jan? No big troop movement or tanks or anything-There is no money moving and contractors don't work without money-follow the money |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77222295 Netherlands 03/09/2024 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zelensky already has security guarantees from the West. 10+ countries will intervene in Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222295 Not without money Kiev had direct talks with Russia in 2022. That failed thanks to London and Washington. Now they refuse direct talks with Russia. Russia is not taking this serious as they already signalled. Again=where are the NATO drills that were to start in Jan? No big troop movement or tanks or anything-There is no money moving and contractors don't work without money-follow the money Moscow has repeatedly indicated that it is ready for talks, but Kiev has introduced a legislative ban on them. The West ignores Ukraine's constant refusals to engage in dialogue. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rejected Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's idea to hold a peace summit with Russia's participation. "We don't see Russian representatives at such a summit," Zelensky said at a joint conference with the Turkish leader in Istanbul, reiterating his old thesis that a peace plan should be prepared by other countries without Moscow's participation - an idea already repeatedly rejected by Russia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77222295 Netherlands 03/09/2024 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zelensky already has security guarantees from the West. 10+ countries will intervene in Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222295 Not without money Kiev had direct talks with Russia in 2022. That failed thanks to London and Washington. Now they refuse direct talks with Russia. Russia is not taking this serious as they already signalled. Again=where are the NATO drills that were to start in Jan? No big troop movement or tanks or anything-There is no money moving and contractors don't work without money-follow the money Have a look what is happening in Poland today. Nato is exercising crossing a river (Dnipr). |
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on target User ID: 4784889 United States 03/09/2024 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peace summit is nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222295 Read the article before posting this nonsense. Zelensky refuses to negotiate with Russia (in article). Russia must retreat + territorial intrgrity. I do understand Zelensky's position but he has no money and when China and Turkey and others start pushing we could have a different outcome. Failure to analyze and just assume what has happened will happen? It is called critical thinking to keep an open mind Nobody takes this peace summit serious, certainly not Russia. It is a collective west propaganda move before they intervene in Ukraine with troops. Correct, in all likelihood. In addition, even whispers of a valid peace initiative would wreck the tenuous Ukraine morale. No one wants to be the last soldier killed before a truce or armistice. The inertia of ten years of war, militant Uke factions, and Zelenski's inability to engage in talks means this war continues until the objectives of the Special Military Operation are achieved---one way or another. on target |
Emeraldlight (OP) User ID: 80816366 United States 03/09/2024 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kiev had direct talks with Russia in 2022. That failed thanks to London and Washington. Now they refuse direct talks with Russia. Russia is not taking this serious as they already signalled. Again=where are the NATO drills that were to start in Jan? No big troop movement or tanks or anything-There is no money moving and contractors don't work without money-follow the money Moscow has repeatedly indicated that it is ready for talks, but Kiev has introduced a legislative ban on them. The West ignores Ukraine's constant refusals to engage in dialogue. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rejected Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's idea to hold a peace summit with Russia's participation. "We don't see Russian representatives at such a summit," Zelensky said at a joint conference with the Turkish leader in Istanbul, reiterating his old thesis that a peace plan should be prepared by other countries without Moscow's participation - an idea already repeatedly rejected by Russia. Now China is pushing peace talks though-that just happened so looking to see if it changed the narrative at all over the next few days-New Moon is tomorrow-did money move-NO |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33773775 Canada 03/09/2024 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kiev had direct talks with Russia in 2022. That failed thanks to London and Washington. Now they refuse direct talks with Russia. Russia is not taking this serious as they already signalled. Again=where are the NATO drills that were to start in Jan? No big troop movement or tanks or anything-There is no money moving and contractors don't work without money-follow the money Have a look what is happening in Poland today. Nato is exercising crossing a river (Dnipr). NATO should be doing nuclear preparedness drills for us plebs, but that would create a mass panic which would probably make us plebs realize what exactly is at stake here. Then we mass protest or throw our governments out. The alternative is possible nuclear annihilation. There is no logical way that Ukraine is worth WW3. Our dear leaders will send our troops to die in a Ukrainian trench while Russian nuclear bombs obliterate everything and everyone those troops would be supposedly fighting for. All the while, the Satanic fucktards that started and ensured this mess will be in luxury bunkers. Yeah, no. Not worth fighting. The only ones who win that war are the rich. |
Emeraldlight (OP) User ID: 80816366 United States 03/09/2024 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222295 Kiev had direct talks with Russia in 2022. That failed thanks to London and Washington. Now they refuse direct talks with Russia. Russia is not taking this serious as they already signalled. Again=where are the NATO drills that were to start in Jan? No big troop movement or tanks or anything-There is no money moving and contractors don't work without money-follow the money Moscow has repeatedly indicated that it is ready for talks, but Kiev has introduced a legislative ban on them. The West ignores Ukraine's constant refusals to engage in dialogue. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rejected Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's idea to hold a peace summit with Russia's participation. "We don't see Russian representatives at such a summit," Zelensky said at a joint conference with the Turkish leader in Istanbul, reiterating his old thesis that a peace plan should be prepared by other countries without Moscow's participation - an idea already repeatedly rejected by Russia. Now China is pushing peace talks though-that just happened so looking to see if it changed the narrative at all over the next few days-New Moon is tomorrow-did money move-NO THIS |
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