HOW TO TELL IF YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM IS BOGUS. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 457616 United States 06/27/2008 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Forever_Midnight User ID: 383037 United States 06/27/2008 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Great inquiry. Great to keep alive in our minds. HOW TO TELL IF YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM IS BOGUS. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166or, consider: /cliff's notes:/ if you have one, it's bogus. hooray hugs N. Crumbling world falls through my hands — In my mouth taste bitter sands — Grass is burning, pulse is slow — Drip by drip my backwards growth — crawl… [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Forever_Midnight User ID: 383037 United States 06/27/2008 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very astute of you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166I was going to close with that theorem but it sounded a bit glib and I felt I might put people off. no worries, i can shoulder that one for you ~ i'm the queen of glib ...and fairly practiced at putting people off! :-o :-D when it comes to good cop/bad cop... I am definitely bad cop! -- but -- at the end of the day -- does the case get solved? there's where my main concern resides ;-) . Crumbling world falls through my hands — In my mouth taste bitter sands — Grass is burning, pulse is slow — Drip by drip my backwards growth — crawl… [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 06/27/2008 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | whatever Quoting: Anonymous Coward 458987whatever your beliefs are they shouldnt be mandatory for the children in schools,like paganism is today. Very true. The saddest dynamic of belief systems is the systemic indoctrination of children. In older and more enlightened societies such as France, it is illegal to submit children and old people to mental/religious indoctrination. |
The Professor User ID: 385883 United States 06/27/2008 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have read entire books that did not say as much as this single sentence: “At the highest states of being/consciousness/awareness, beliefs cease to exist - for all is encapsulated in beingness.” Pure Genius. Powerful words, beautifully stated. Great read, my friend. Ten thousand thanks! |
etherealgirl User ID: 336619 Latvia 06/27/2008 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have read entire books that did not say as much as this single sentence: “At the highest states of being/consciousness/awareness, beliefs cease to exist - for all is encapsulated in beingness.” Quoting: The Professor 385883Pure Genius. Powerful words, beautifully stated. Great read, my friend. Ten thousand thanks! "I'm eschewing all men, cigarettes and carbohydrates".~Bridget Jones I don't care if you lick windows,take the special bus or occasionally pee on yourself...you hang in there sunshine, you're special. |
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Jomama User ID: 446229 Germany 06/27/2008 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My belief system is sound. I believe I'll have another beer. to herd or not to herd [link to djomama.blogspot.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 296954 United States 06/27/2008 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 296954Q - "How to tell if your belief system is bogus?" A - Have one Ever notice how "belief system" is BS same as bullshit? Research the root of the word "system". You will find that it relates to the sewer. I tend to think I want not part of any thing that is a "system". Jordan Maxwell is your friend. And his does one hell of a job with research. Check him out if you have not already. Plus he has a lot of really interesting stuff on his site in the "Research" category. [link to www.jordanmaxwell.com] to all! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 06/27/2008 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose of life is continuous unfoldment/expression through the continuous process of genesis, integration, expansion, consolidation, death and disintegration. The notion that human life is aimed at an end point beyond life itself (heaven or hell) is a misconstruction and serious misunderstanding of life and hence, of source creator or what religious people misidentify and label as "god". If there is one subject that should be taught in high school it should be Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness. An understanding of the constituent makeup of all creation (extant reality) along with its dynamic properties would necessarily allay all doubt and attendant fear which religion seeks to create for it to take root and flourish. Western religion, especially, is antithetical to the quantum reality of life. Quoting from: [link to www.integralscience.org] Implications: Life In The Quantum Realm Finally, we have found our way to the quantum realm, a world of possibility and spontaneity, a world of unbroken unity. This quantum reality we have found at the end of our journey is composed of a Subject and an Object. The Subject is the One source of conscious awareness which shines forth through the Many individuals. The Object is the One potential for the appearance of the Many phenomenal appearances in all the individual worlds. This reality is prior to space, time, and causality, and is thus characterized by nonseparability and spontaneity. Being such a profound change in our world view, what implications does this quantum reality hold for us? The most profound changes are not the changes to the world, but the changes in how we see the world. The discovery of quantum mechanics has opened up a vast new Quantum World that can free us from an outdated world view and its illusions of separation and materialism. Going far beyond superficial technological changes, the Quantum World has the potential to transform the basis of our individual and social actions. By recognizing the essential identity of oneself with other creatures, one acts from unity and compassion rather than separation and conflict. Kindness to others is kindness to oneself and cruelty to others is cruelty to oneself. In addition, by acknowledging the unity of all creatures, a common ground is established beneath the political, ideological, and cultural divisions at the root of so many world problems. In the Quantum World, separateness is only half the story. Beneath all diversity is a unity. So, let us follow the vision of these heroic adventurers to the quantum realm. The new world has been discovered. Now it awaits those who are called to leave the old lands and seek beyond. It awaits us. |
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gooderboy User ID: 76997 United States 06/27/2008 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Once there lived a village of creatures along the bottom of a great crystal river. The current of the river swept silently over them all--young and old, rich and poor, good and evil, the current going its own way, knowing only it's own crystal self. Each creature in its own manner clung tightly to the twigs and rocks of the river bottom, for clinging was their way of life, and resisting the current what each had learned from birth. But one creature said at last, 'I am tired of clinging. Though I cannot see it with my eyes, I trust that the current knows where it is going. I shall let go, and let it take me where it will. Clinging, I shall die of boredom.' The other creatures laughed and said, 'Fool! Let go, and that current you worship will throw you tumbled and smashed across the rocks, and you will die quicker than boredom!' But the one heeded them not, and taking a breath did let go, and at once was tumbled and smashed by the current across the rocks. Yet in time, as the creature refused to cling again, the current lifted him free from the bottom, and he was bruised and hurt no more. And the creatures downstream, to whom he was a stranger, cried 'See a miracle! A creature like ourselves, yet he flies! See the Messiah, come to save us all!' And the one carried in the current said, 'I am no more Messiah then you. The river delights to lift us free, if only we dare let go. Our true work is this voyage, this adventure.' But they cried the more, 'Savior!' all the while clinging to the rocks and when they looked again he was gone, and they were left alone making legends of a Savior." (Richard Bach, 'Illusions') w/luv, just me ... lol, rock on! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 06/27/2008 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Wingedlion User ID: 459165 United States 06/27/2008 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your way is a lie, and only darkness would deny absolute truth. |
Forever_Midnight User ID: 383037 United States 06/27/2008 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ever notice how "belief system" is BS same as bullshit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 296954Research the root of the word "system". You will find that it relates to the sewer. I tend to think I want not part of any thing that is a "system". Jordan Maxwell is your friend. ... [link to www.jordanmaxwell.com] to all! love it… that’s like being punched in the gut with truth – Thank you :-) Crumbling world falls through my hands — In my mouth taste bitter sands — Grass is burning, pulse is slow — Drip by drip my backwards growth — crawl… [link to www.youtube.com] |
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HardTruth User ID: 423076 United States 06/27/2008 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "There is a way that seemeth right unto man but the ways thereof are the ways of Death." I do believe in absolute truth, because Jesus Christ declares "I am the way, the truth, and the light, no man comes to the Father, but by me." Quoting: Wingedlion 459165Your way is a lie, and only darkness would deny absolute truth. It IS the darkness that claims itself as 'The Absolute Truth' ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity. Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people.. [link to www.paganlibrary.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 430584 Canada 06/27/2008 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Except that yours also fits the topic title. Simply put.. if you can put words on it.. then its flawed. Our brains dont have the capacity (processing power) to form anywhere near adequate models of reality. |
HardTruth User ID: 423076 United States 06/27/2008 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting belief system you have their yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430584Except that yours also fits the topic title. Simply put.. if you can put words on it.. then its flawed. Our brains dont have the capacity (processing power) to form anywhere near adequate models of reality. Well said and correct.. Christianity has had thousands of years and their bibles with over millions of words, to try and convince the world of YHVH's divinity.. I can with ten words bring the whole deceit of it down!! Even with my words, still they are inadequate to the reality that is, as the above poster has so brilliantly stated!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall! The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity. Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people.. [link to www.paganlibrary.com] |
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~Ajax~ User ID: 456801 United States 06/27/2008 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting belief system you have their yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430584Except that yours also fits the topic title. Simply put.. if you can put words on it.. then its flawed. Our brains dont have the capacity (processing power) to form anywhere near adequate models of reality. yes, words sure are very very limiting when I/we try to share our insights on our insights. :-) I feel like a babbling idiot sometimes trying to express the nature of it all. It changes so often, I wonder what the point is at times! ha. I read you & op quite clearly though. I do find that when we 'define' our reality...in words or within ourselves, as an absolute, this can bind us in many ways. In as much as how we defend & try to uphold the belief system. To defend anything is to be out of freedom & peace. Know what I mean? Ah, you said it pretty clear op! Thanks! |
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