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THE FOUR ANGELS OF THE EUPHRATES ARE TURKEY, IRAQ, IRAN AND SYRIA

 
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THE FOUR ANGELS OF THE EUPHRATES ARE TURKEY, IRAQ, IRAN AND SYRIA
The Ottoman Empire fell after World War 1
Iraq fell after the recent invasion

When Iran and Syria fall, they will be released.
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Good findings. I was wondering what the angels were metaphoricaly.
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One of the great mysteries of the trumpets is timing. Only one person that I know of has got the timing right on the trumpets and it's Ronald Weinland.

He knows that the angels with trumpets 1,2,3 and 4 will be released when the sixth trumpet sounds.
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Good findings. I was wondering what the angels were metaphoricaly.
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Angels have always been interpreted as messages. This time the message comes from the destruction of nation states lying on the shores of the River Euphrates.

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One of the great mysteries of the trumpets is timing. Only one person that I know of has got the timing right on the trumpets and it's Ronald Weinland.

He knows that the angels with trumpets 1,2,3 and 4 will be released when the sixth trumpet sounds.
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Well, that is a lie. 1 2 3 4 - can you count?

The trumps are in order and there is NO WAY the 6th trump can come before the first 5 trumps.

Learn some Bible and stop listening to fools.
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IMO, The four angels have already been released when the War in Iraq started.
Revelation 9:14
Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
usa / britian troops bombed, some missiles landed in the Euphrates river. In the news was mentioned Euphrates river. Also mentioned briefly Megiddo as they passed. I looked up Megiddo. Here is what I found.
Armageddon occurs only in Rev. 16:16 (R.V., "Har-Magedon"), as symbolically designating the place where the "battle of that great day of God Almighty" (ver. 14) shall be fought. The word properly means the"mount of Megiddo." It is the scene of the final conflict between Christ and Antichrist. The idea of such a scene was suggested by the Old Testament great battle-field, the plain of Esdraelon (q.v.).

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to hurt the land, trees and sea. the sealing time is past.

look at the weather, volcanoes, super storms, earthquakes
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Well, that is a lie. 1 2 3 4 - can you count?

The trumps are in order and there is NO WAY the 6th trump can come before the first 5 trumps.

Learn some Bible and stop listening to fools.
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Yep, in Order. 1-2-3-4-5-6
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IMO, The four angels have already been released when the War in Iraq started.
Revelation 9:14
Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
usa / britian troops bombed, some missiles landed in the Euphrates river. In the news was mentioned Euphrates river. Also mentioned briefly Megiddo as they passed. I looked up Megiddo. Here is what I found.
Armageddon occurs only in Rev. 16:16 (R.V., "Har-Magedon"), as symbolically designating the place where the "battle of that great day of God Almighty" (ver. 14) shall be fought. The word properly means the"mount of Megiddo." It is the scene of the final conflict between Christ and Antichrist. The idea of such a scene was suggested by the Old Testament great battle-field, the plain of Esdraelon (q.v.).

[link to www.angelfire.com]

to hurt the land, trees and sea. the sealing time is past.

look at the weather, volcanoes, super storms, earthquakes
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Yes they have. Azazel and others have been freed from their bondage at Dudael.
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TO OP: YES

WHEN ALEXANDER CONQUERED, HE GOT A PERSIAN LEOPARD SKIN

THE BIBLICAL IMAGERY IS BOTH OPEN AS WELL AS CLOAKED
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Yep I can count and read.

The trumpets were released during this grand age...that means that Ararat is probably the angel of the volcano and the meteorite is probably the angel that hit between the river Tigris and Euphrates thousands of years ago, known as Umm al Binni Lake (Google it).

Now instead of giving me a hard time about reading and counting...why don't you find me an event like the one of Lisbon in 1755 when the capital fell in the ocean like a great wall of fire, that occured in either Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran in the last 26,000; preferably Syria.
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Ok, Im not so fmailiar wiht this, whats the four angels about? what do they do? hehe..Im clueless but I guess they aint giving out candy bars. Help?
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One of the great mysteries of the trumpets is timing. Only one person that I know of has got the timing right on the trumpets and it's Ronald Weinland.

He knows that the angels with trumpets 1,2,3 and 4 will be released when the sixth trumpet sounds.



Well, that is a lie. 1 2 3 4 - can you count?

The trumps are in order and there is NO WAY the 6th trump can come before the first 5 trumps.

Learn some Bible and stop listening to fools.
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The fifth trumpet has already sounded.

Put your hands in your pocket and pull out the keys to your locust which comes from the bottomless pit; crude oil.
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Yes they have. Azazel and others have been freed from their bondage at Dudael.
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expand more about this please.
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Angels are spiritual beings,not countries, they are messengers sent by God to deliver messages. Major difference. They have no earthly associations other than that and reside in Heaven not herein.
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Angels are spiritual beings,not countries, they are messengers sent by God to deliver messages. Major difference. They have no earthly associations other than that and reside in Heaven not herein.
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You have to do better then that and stop thinking in squares.
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Angels are spiritual beings,not countries, they are messengers sent by God to deliver messages. Major difference. They have no earthly associations other than that and reside in Heaven not herein.
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not entirely true.

"Dudael is the place of imprisonment for Azazel (one of the "fallen" angels), cohort of Semjaza. It is described in the book of First Enoch chapter 10 verse 4-7:

And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. "
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Angels are spiritual beings,not countries, they are messengers sent by God to deliver messages. Major difference. They have no earthly associations other than that and reside in Heaven not herein.
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I agree that angels are messengers but I also believe that they are celestial, ie Meteorites...and that means that they had to land somewhere. Just like the angel that landed in Odessa Texas.
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as bad as things are the seals and trumpets will be much worse

1/4 the people on earth die in the seals plus another 1/3 in the trumpets

the 6th seal itself will be a global cataclysm so major people will think it's the end of the world

the bowls after the trumpets will be most devastating - almost everyone dies
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as bad as things are the seals and trumpets will be much worse

1/4 the people on earth die in the seals plus another 1/3 in the trumpets

the 6th seal itself will be a global cataclysm so major people will think it's the end of the world

the bowls after the trumpets will be most devastating - almost everyone dies
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I came up with lithospheric plates. A third destruction on an individual lithospeheric plate. When we look at the world, we see one surface, but geo-physically the world is in fact made up of individual plates, closely running along continetal lines; I suspect they are worlds within the world.
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Each nation has a "representative" angel that watches over it.
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Each nation has a "representative" angel that watches over it.
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If only we could have a chat to them and then we could settle border disputes once and for all.

I would love to know the astrogolical symbols for each nation.

Obviuosly Ursa could be Russia, Aquilla can be America...wouldn't it be funny if Draco was UK...ha ha ha ha.
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this video is the best explanation of the 4 angels of the eupharates. very detailed.

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Re: Lithosperic/Continental plates...

In 1915, Alfred Wegener, proposed his theory of continental drift...The pieces then slowly drifted to their present position. Not until mid-1960s was the theory revised and accepted by scientists.

Bascially this theory is relatively new...when I heard that the earth shrinks and expands over many thousands of years...something in that really struck a chord and c.drift sounded really stupid...no offence Alfred.
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Each nation has a "representative" angel that watches over it.


If only we could have a chat to them and then we could settle border disputes once and for all.

I would love to know the astrogolical symbols for each nation.

Obviuosly Ursa could be Russia, Aquilla can be America...wouldn't it be funny if Draco was UK...ha ha ha ha.
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Draco is Romania.
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this video is the best explanation of the 4 angels of the eupharates. very detailed.


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Wow, some of that looks pretty interesting. I will watch it all later today.

But just from the outset, when people try to explain prophecy by using lots of pictures of dead bodies, torture and explosions...i'm always suspicious. Prophecy speaks for itself...I don't think we need overt pictures of men against men to explain it...which bring me to my next point...prophecy, whether people like it or now...is usually about the earth and heavens...such interpretations came from a very earth/man-centric point of view.
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Each nation has a "representative" angel that watches over it.


If only we could have a chat to them and then we could settle border disputes once and for all.

I would love to know the astrogolical symbols for each nation.

Obviuosly Ursa could be Russia, Aquilla can be America...wouldn't it be funny if Draco was UK...ha ha ha ha.


Draco is Romania.
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Cool, thank you.
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:)
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When Russia destroys America there will be no more US Military presence in the Middle East


That is when these angels will be released


and than China will go to war against Russia and Europe and that war will kill 1/3 of the earth's population


and after that war, a peace treaty will be signed and than Russia, Iran and many nations with them will attack Israel


That is when the Second Coming of Jesus will happen
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When Russia destroys America there will be no more US Military presence in the Middle East


That is when these angels will be released


and than China will go to war against Russia and Europe and that war will kill 1/3 of the earth's population


and after that war, a peace treaty will be signed and than Russia, Iran and many nations with them will attack Israel


That is when the Second Coming of Jesus will happen
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Wow...that is really good. I've got it a little bit different...but that's really good. Is it your work?
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Ok your analysis is based around speculation of interpretive systems, a little too ambiguous for my taste.

Firstly, stop thinking in the sense of earthly "states" because this is your first error in interpretation.

Rather begin looking at the problem as a "god" and not as an indigenous lifeform. The problem of the four angels is symbolic, releasing the "...Four Angels in the Euphrates" is probably not referring to a weapon at all.

Where in the bible does god actually "kill" anything, his commandments to people was to do what? "THOU SHALL NOT KILL"

So, we must make a conclusion that to kill anything is against "God's" way; which is accurate and follows the train of thought with the virtues.

The Anti-Christ, is apparently the destroyer, also represented as Apollyos or Abbadon, later in the bible in this context and light you betray him as.

So useing this as a reference it could be decerned, that "God" is the Anti-God or anti Murder, anti Killer or anti destroyer.

The names are symbolic of Methology "apollyon is greek" so therefore the word is derived from a greek interpretation.

Using this as references it is reasonable to start concluding that the 4 Angels are NOT missles, and are NOT some weapon of destruction, but rather that they are something which either "symbolically KILLS" as it was stated in the Garden of Eden looking to the greeks may assist in understanding this considering the word choices.

God forbid man from what? "thou shall not take of the knowledge of Good and Evil, because in that day you shall surely die", and the serpent said what in response? You shall not die, but become as GOD with the knowledge of Good and Evil" and so man was cast out because of this.

GOD NEVER KILLED ANYTHING, he casted them away from him, which follows scripture. Therefore the Killing 1/3rd the trees and or 1/3 of men must also follow the same pattern, if Revelations is true.

Maybe "killing" means - "knowledge of Good and Evil" homing in on the word choices is required in order to receive a correct interpretation; so therefore you must research the roots, and not the translations.

Maybe the release of the 4 angels or AKA messangers or whatever might be a release of "space crafts" or people with really BIG egos running around with their hands over their groinds :D

Remember, God is love, and a Spirt. in accordance to the testimony; so what is the justification for murder and death, even in the garden god in mercy sends the rebellious ones out into the wilderness away from the holy city.

Never is there destruction accept in Joshua which is a king, where gods wrath comes down on Sodom and Gamorah. Therefore it is more likely that the revealing of the ANGELS is the knowledge of Good and Evil or something relative to that line of logic; not the actuallity of killing or destruction.

I believe based on these represented truths, that your interpretations are too broad and wild, they lack true understanding and you need to seek the truth in learning and understanding the root languages which the bible was constructed from.
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Re: Lithosperic/Continental plates...

In 1915, Alfred Wegener, proposed his theory of continental drift...The pieces then slowly drifted to their present position. Not until mid-1960s was the theory revised and accepted by scientists.

Bascially this theory is relatively new...when I heard that the earth shrinks and expands over many thousands of years...something in that really struck a chord and c.drift sounded really stupid...no offence Alfred.
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The expanding earth theory makes a lot of sense.

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