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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81356781 Kenya 03/29/2024 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about the geneologies listed in the bible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81051711 which one do you go with? What about them? Data point: Jeconiah is mentioned in Matthew 1 as an ancestor of Jesus but in Jeremiah we read of Jeconiah being cursed. It was prophesied that his seed would never sit on the throne, so Messiah cannot be Jesus if he was a descendant of Jeconiah. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78224013 United States 03/29/2024 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When we read Jeremiah 22 in its entirety and in context, we clearly see that God had sent His prophet to deliver a message to the entire royal house of Judah, who descended from King Josiah, and to all the people living in the Kingdom of Judah. The prophesy concerns all of them and Jeremiah was not speaking directly to or about King Jeconiah only. He was telling all of them what was going to happen as a result of their disobedience to God. Jeremiah 22:1-2 - "Thus says the Lord: 'Go down to the house of the king of Judah, and there speak this word, and say, Hear the word of the Lord, O king of Judah, you who sit on the throne of David, you and your servants and your people who enter these gates!'" The chapter continues by describing the destruction that will come upon the land and all the inhabitants, not just upon the royal family or one specific king. Then, starting from verse 11, Jeremiah delivers a message to the sons of Josiah and his grandson Jeconiah, who were Kings of Judah at different times, and speaks about each of them specifically, listing their sins along with God's judgment over them and the whole nation. The final consequence of all their sins is: Jeremiah 22:30 - "Thus says the Lord: 'Write this man down as childless, a man who shall not prosper in his days; for none of his descendants shall prosper, sitting on the throne of David, and ruling anymore in Judah'." ... meaning that the Kingdom of Judah was going to never have a king again, and was thus ceasing from being an independent, sovereign state. King Jeconiah was going to be the last generation of rulers from the royal house of King Josiah. We know that this is exactly what happened! Less than 50% from: [link to www.conformingtojesus.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82910449 United States 03/29/2024 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | P.S. "As childless " and "childless" are obviously not the same, as the next phrase makes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82910449 makes clear* makes what clear? The prophecy states that no descendant will sit on the throne. The throne of the Kingdom of Judah, which shortly after this prophecy was taken into captivity by the Babylonians and has never seen the light of day since...i.e. NO ONE has ever sat on THAT throne again. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77132406 United States 03/29/2024 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both the thrones of David and those of the Kingdoms of Judah and Israel (Samaria) are Earthly, historical thrones. Jesus will rule over a future earthly one for a thousand years upon His triumphal return to Earth, but His real throne is eternal and beyond this world. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77132406 United States 03/29/2024 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This would be a great weekend to go to church and to get right with the Lord, who gave up His heavenly throne, came to Earth to be malighned, slandered, lied about, spit on, whipped, beaten, crucified with nails through wrist and ankle, and stabbed......because HE LOVE YOU. He could have called ten thousand angels to rescue Him, but He went all the way to the cross and a horrible, ignominious death, FOR YOU! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86997837 Portugal 03/29/2024 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | P.S. "As childless " and "childless" are obviously not the same, as the next phrase makes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82910449 makes clear* makes what clear? The prophecy states that no descendant will sit on the throne. The throne of the Kingdom of Judah, which shortly after this prophecy was taken into captivity by the Babylonians and has never seen the light of day since...i.e. NO ONE has ever sat on THAT throne again. So then what is the purposed of the geneologies as proof of anything? 1 Timothy 1:4 nor to pay attention to legends (fables, myths) and endless genealogies, which give rise to useless speculation and meaningless arguments rather than advancing God’s program of instruction which is grounded in faith |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86001353 United States 03/29/2024 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about the geneologies listed in the bible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81051711 which one do you go with? What about them? Data point: Jeconiah is mentioned in Matthew 1 as an ancestor of Jesus but in Jeremiah we read of Jeconiah being cursed. It was prophesied that his seed would never sit on the throne, so Messiah cannot be Jesus if he was a descendant of Jeconiah. It's not the same Jeconiah. Different people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86993314 Portugal 03/29/2024 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Data point: Jeconiah is mentioned in Matthew 1 as an ancestor of Jesus but in Jeremiah we read of Jeconiah being cursed. It was prophesied that his seed would never sit on the throne, so Messiah cannot be Jesus if he was a descendant of Jeconiah. It's not the same Jeconiah. Different people. hahahaha, good one! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86001353 United States 03/29/2024 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Data point: Jeconiah is mentioned in Matthew 1 as an ancestor of Jesus but in Jeremiah we read of Jeconiah being cursed. It was prophesied that his seed would never sit on the throne, so Messiah cannot be Jesus if he was a descendant of Jeconiah. It's not the same Jeconiah. Different people. hahahaha, good one! Joseph, whose lineage included Jeconiah, was not Jesus’ biological father. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86936796 Portugal 03/29/2024 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81356781 Data point: Jeconiah is mentioned in Matthew 1 as an ancestor of Jesus but in Jeremiah we read of Jeconiah being cursed. It was prophesied that his seed would never sit on the throne, so Messiah cannot be Jesus if he was a descendant of Jeconiah. It's not the same Jeconiah. Different people. hahahaha, good one! Joseph, whose lineage included Jeconiah, was not Jesus’ biological father. Then why the need to include his geneology in the gospels? For appearances sake only? Isn't that a bit deceptive? I know that the story is Jesus was Joseph's "adopted" son, therefore entitle to hereditary inheritance..... but still. It's deceptive. To claim a bloodline that you don't really have...... one that has been cursed, no less. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86001353 United States 03/29/2024 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joseph, whose lineage included Jeconiah, was not Jesus’ biological father. Then why the need to include his geneology in the gospels? For appearances sake only? Isn't that a bit deceptive? I know that the story is Jesus was Joseph's "adopted" son, therefore entitle to hereditary inheritance..... but still. It's deceptive. To claim a bloodline that you don't really have...... one that has been cursed, no less. When you kneel before Him at the Judgement, you can ask Him. And even accuse Him of deception. FAFO See how that works out for you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43228826 Australia 03/29/2024 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whats NOT to hate? HE WHO DIDDLES TO THE END SHALL BE SAVED... Thread: Virginia baptist pastor, Ben Wharton, has been arrested on 30 felony charges of raping children, under the age of 13 Thread: Kentucky pastor Thomas Wall, indicted on 13 counts for the sexual abuse of 7 children under the age of 12, has taken a plea deal of 1 year prison Thread: Child Porn Charges Added to Life Sentence for Youth Pastor Who Killed and Dismembered Teen Thread: "“ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.” Youth Pastor, Foster Parent Arrested For Child Sex Trafficking In Florida" Thread: CHILD SEX IS A 154 B $ YR INDUSTRY! DO YOU or YOUR SUBMISSIVE PASTOR GIVE A SHIT?! Thread: Pastors and Child Molestation Thread: West Virginia christian church pastor, Elbert Goins, has been arrested for offering someone money online to rape their child Thread: Clinton-Backed Haiti Pastor Indicted on Child Sex Charges Thread: North Carolina church ‘shocked’ after pastor arrested for child porn Thread: Methodist Pastor Arrested for Meth and Child Porn Thread: NH pastor charged with child pornography possession after 5-year investigation Thread: Complaint: Pastor charged with child porn described himself as “active pedophile” Thread: Bet you didn't know that the pastor of the FL "Koran/Quran book burning" church was arrested Aug 4th for child pornography Thread: Christian pastor who headed a major gay conversion therapy program is charged with child sex abuse Thread: Hillsong Pastor Brian Moran charged with child abuse by the police Thread: American Pastor Who Adopted Haitian Orphans Charged With Child Sex Abuse. Thread: American Pastor Who Adopted Haitian Orphans, Linked to Clintons and CGI, Charged With Child Sex Abuse Thread: Anti-gay pastor Kenneth Adkins who cheered Orlando nightclub massacre convicted on eight child molestation charges Thread: (Federal) Three Ohio "pastors" Indicted On Child Sex Trafficking Conspiracy Thread: Affidavit: Colorado Springs pastor impregnated 14-year-old girl, she had his child Thread: Youtuber Pastor D jailed for child sex images Thread: Pastor of Abundant Life Ministries gets life in prison on child sex trafficking charges Thread: Florida pastor arrested on 500 counts of child pornography Thread: Louisiana Pastor and Wife charged in Child Sex Ring; he admits teaching kids to have sex with animals Thread: Boy dies at faith healing service - Pastorīs brother held on suspicion of child abuse Thread: Child sex case rocks churches tucked away deep in the Ozarks; pastors charged - Thread: Former Texas pastor sentenced in child porn case Thread: Pastor's 'child bride' gives evidence Thread: ANOTHER PEDOPHILE PASTOR Charged with CHILD PORN Thread: Would You Let Your Church Pastor/Leader To babysit your Child? Thread: Corona Pastor, Church Members Involved in Child Abuse Scandal Thread: Alabama Pastor charged with 36 counts of child molestation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86993314 Portugal 03/29/2024 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joseph, whose lineage included Jeconiah, was not Jesus’ biological father. Then why the need to include his geneology in the gospels? For appearances sake only? Isn't that a bit deceptive? I know that the story is Jesus was Joseph's "adopted" son, therefore entitle to hereditary inheritance..... but still. It's deceptive. To claim a bloodline that you don't really have...... one that has been cursed, no less. When you kneel before Him at the Judgement, you can ask Him. And even accuse Him of deception. FAFO See how that works out for you. Can't answer the question I see. Typical. And typical response from those who can't answer the question. Don't worry about me, as you so kindly do, kneeling before Him at Judgment. I'm not worried. But, you should work out your own salvation with trembling and fear. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77132406 United States 03/29/2024 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was both God and man. Yes, his humanity derives from Mary and not Joseph, but that changes nothing regarding his Godhood. The Son of God can choose to list both of His genealogies if He likes, just like He chose to give you life even though He knew you would use it to mock Him. Does someone deciding to list both your patriarchal and matriarchal genealogies make you NOT you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86993663 United States 03/29/2024 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about the geneologies listed in the bible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81051711 which one do you go with? What about them? What is your intended attack? attack? It's a simple question. From scripture, there are two different geneologies. Which one do you go with? Why do you feel attacked by scripture? what about the geneologies listed in the bible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81051711 which one do you go with? What about them? Data point: Jeconiah is mentioned in Matthew 1 as an ancestor of Jesus but in Jeremiah we read of Jeconiah being cursed. It was prophesied that his seed would never sit on the throne, so Messiah cannot be Jesus if he was a descendant of Jeconiah. See?! You evasive deceptive evil little worm. Your purpose was to deny Jesus Christ. Watch the videos and find the explanation and dismissal of your denial BECAUSE HOLY ALMIGHTY GOD knows better that YOU. . The Two Genealogies The Bible provides us with two lengthy genealogies of Christ. Matthew, as a Levite, focuses on the Messiahship of Jesus in that he traces the legal line from Abraham (thought to be the first Jew) through David, then Solomon and the royal line, to Joseph, the legal father of Jesus (Matthew 1:1-17) and the husband of Mary. Luke, as a physician, focuses on the humanity of Jesus. He traces the blood line from Adam (the Son of God versus us, the sons of Adam) and once Luke gets to Abraham, the genealogy is identical to Matthew’s up to the House of David. Then Luke goes from David, through Nathan (a different son of David) to Mary, the mother of Jesus (Luke 3:23-38). [link to www.khouse.org (secure)] Excellent. Thanks! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86993663 United States 03/29/2024 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about the geneologies listed in the bible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81051711 which one do you go with? What about them? What is your intended attack? attack? It's a simple question. From scripture, there are two different geneologies. Which one do you go with? Why do you feel attacked by scripture? Data point: Jeconiah is mentioned in Matthew 1 as an ancestor of Jesus but in Jeremiah we read of Jeconiah being cursed. It was prophesied that his seed would never sit on the throne, so Messiah cannot be Jesus if he was a descendant of Jeconiah. See?! You evasive deceptive evil little worm. Your purpose was to deny Jesus Christ. Watch the videos and find the explanation and dismissal of your denial BECAUSE HOLY ALMIGHTY GOD knows better that YOU. . The Two Genealogies The Bible provides us with two lengthy genealogies of Christ. Matthew, as a Levite, focuses on the Messiahship of Jesus in that he traces the legal line from Abraham (thought to be the first Jew) through David, then Solomon and the royal line, to Joseph, the legal father of Jesus (Matthew 1:1-17) and the husband of Mary. Luke, as a physician, focuses on the humanity of Jesus. He traces the blood line from Adam (the Son of God versus us, the sons of Adam) and once Luke gets to Abraham, the genealogy is identical to Matthew’s up to the House of David. Then Luke goes from David, through Nathan (a different son of David) to Mary, the mother of Jesus (Luke 3:23-38). [link to www.khouse.org (secure)] Excellent. Thanks! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86993663 United States 03/29/2024 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about the geneologies listed in the bible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81051711 which one do you go with? What about them? What is your intended attack? attack? It's a simple question. From scripture, there are two different geneologies. Which one do you go with? Why do you feel attacked by scripture? Both are true, mom and dad legally. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43228826 Australia 03/29/2024 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems christians hate eachother far more than everyone hates them. Every one of their threads always turns into a 100 page epic bible fight of curses against eachother and threats of hell etc. Disgusting fucking pigs. The world watches them.. And it dosent hate them... Its just..disgusted by them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86993663 United States 03/29/2024 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems christians hate eachother far more than everyone hates them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43228826 Every one of their threads always turns into a 100 page epic bible fight of curses against eachother and threats of hell etc. Disgusting fucking pigs. The world watches them.. And it dosent hate them... Its just..disgusted by them. Contend earnestly for the faith delivered once for all. This includes you. The Truth matters. Jesus Christ is the Truth. Attacks against Him are easily dismissible by His Word because He is True. Jesus Christ is God Incarnate and YOU are accountable to Him for your every word. Have a nice day. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86998411 Portugal 03/29/2024 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about the geneologies listed in the bible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81051711 which one do you go with? What about them? What is your intended attack? attack? It's a simple question. From scripture, there are two different geneologies. Which one do you go with? Why do you feel attacked by scripture? Data point: Jeconiah is mentioned in Matthew 1 as an ancestor of Jesus but in Jeremiah we read of Jeconiah being cursed. It was prophesied that his seed would never sit on the throne, so Messiah cannot be Jesus if he was a descendant of Jeconiah. See?! You evasive deceptive evil little worm. Your purpose was to deny Jesus Christ. Watch the videos and find the explanation and dismissal of your denial BECAUSE HOLY ALMIGHTY GOD knows better that YOU. . The Two Genealogies The Bible provides us with two lengthy genealogies of Christ. Matthew, as a Levite, focuses on the Messiahship of Jesus in that he traces the legal line from Abraham (thought to be the first Jew) through David, then Solomon and the royal line, to Joseph, the legal father of Jesus (Matthew 1:1-17) and the husband of Mary. Luke, as a physician, focuses on the humanity of Jesus. He traces the blood line from Adam (the Son of God versus us, the sons of Adam) and once Luke gets to Abraham, the genealogy is identical to Matthew’s up to the House of David. Then Luke goes from David, through Nathan (a different son of David) to Mary, the mother of Jesus (Luke 3:23-38). [link to www.khouse.org (secure)] Excellent. Thanks! such loving, kind christian words. Demonstrative of a loving, kind, Christian ........ I don't deny Immanuel. I deny the false teachings of what christianity became and what they did to the TRUE Messiah's teachings. That you are the epitome of. At least OP shows some demonstration of kindness......... Which is what MOST of us here are doing...... and are condemned as deceived, satanic, new age and more. If the Son of Man were here today, YOU would be at the front of the crowd saying CRUCIFY HIM!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86993663 United States 03/29/2024 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | such loving, kind christian words. Demonstrative of a loving, kind, Christian ........ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86998411 I don't deny Immanuel. I deny the false teachings of what christianity became and what they did to the TRUE Messiah's teachings. That you are the epitome of. At least OP shows some demonstration of kindness......... Which is what MOST of us here are doing...... and are condemned as deceived, satanic, new age and more. If the Son of Man were here today, YOU would be at the front of the crowd saying CRUCIFY HIM!!!! I believe in Jesus Christ my Lord, Savior and God. Do you? What is your point? Make it clearly here and now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86998490 Portugal 03/29/2024 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | such loving, kind christian words. Demonstrative of a loving, kind, Christian ........ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86998411 I don't deny Immanuel. I deny the false teachings of what christianity became and what they did to the TRUE Messiah's teachings. That you are the epitome of. At least OP shows some demonstration of kindness......... Which is what MOST of us here are doing...... and are condemned as deceived, satanic, new age and more. If the Son of Man were here today, YOU would be at the front of the crowd saying CRUCIFY HIM!!!! I believe in Jesus Christ my Lord, Savior and God. Do you? What is your point? Make it clearly here and now. I despise christianese. I despise what you pretend to represent. I know my "Lord and Savior" .. and he is not the one that Paul created and the Vatican polished off, with the torch being carried by the daughters of Rome. I know HIM, because His Kingdom resides within me. I know HIS voice because HE lives within me and therfore I know the Father's voice, because it speaks through HIM. And all your threats of hell and cries for REPENT just make me despise your kind even more....... because you represent NOTHING of the Messiah, but only doctrine and dogma. You can keep pounding your mallet onto a square peg insisting it gets mashed into a round hole, but all you will accomplish is making a mess of things. Go within. Seek the Kingdom within.........Leave doctrine and dogma behind. |