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I have read books on Hopi and Mayan prophecy. Ask me a question and I will respond.

By the way, the Olmec predicted that this cycle of mankind, the 4th in mankinds current material manifestation but the 5th overall, will end in earthquakes.

That should get the convo rollling.
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but the 5th overall, will end in earthquakes.
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Dimentional hurricanes, dimentional earthquakes, we are moving outside the box eh!
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Yeah, maybe what I said was confusing. Basically for all intents and purposes we're at the close of the fourth cycle of mankind. The Olmec said it would end in Earthquakes.

There was a cycle of "mankind" predating the previous four but during that time, mankind wasn't really mankind. Know anything about the shadowpeople? Eh, anyway, the Hopi say that China will invade America from the West. This based on prophecy they received in 1100 A.D. from a god named Masaw.
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That video is a hodgepodge of quotes half of which I've never heard of or would question their source. But I believe we are probably on the same page anyway.

Here is a video I posted about a year ago.

Thread: The Horizon Project - Bracing For Tomorrow
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Dang it, I hate when I time out. Above post is mine.
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Yeah, maybe what I said was confusing. Basically for all intents and purposes we're at the close of the fourth cycle of mankind. The Olmec said it would end in Earthquakes.

There was a cycle of "mankind" predating the previous four but during that time, mankind wasn't really mankind. Know anything about the shadowpeople? Eh, anyway, the Hopi say that China will invade America from the West. This based on prophecy they received in 1100 A.D. from a god named Masaw.
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From a God named Masaw! lol thats a good one! Venus likes eating ripened fruit! As they say, pride comes before the fall eh!

My magnetic field is stronger than your magnetic field nah nah nah nananana lol
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Leonidas, you've changed! Something about you is different. What could it be? Hmmmmm.

Looks to me like holoverse drew heavily on Hopi prophecy, the references to great distances being spanned in short periods of time, man being controlled by his hip, that's straight from Masaw.

I'll check out your flick.

Holoverse makes good flix.

Check out this one on the relationship of mind to the universe:

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Yeah, maybe what I said was confusing. Basically for all intents and purposes we're at the close of the fourth cycle of mankind. The Olmec said it would end in Earthquakes.

There was a cycle of "mankind" predating the previous four but during that time, mankind wasn't really mankind. Know anything about the shadowpeople? Eh, anyway, the Hopi say that China will invade America from the West. This based on prophecy they received in 1100 A.D. from a god named Masaw.


From a God named Masaw! lol thats a good one! Venus likes eating ripened fruit! As they say, pride comes before the fall eh!

My magnetic field is stronger than your magnetic field nah nah nah nananana lol
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Hopi prophecy has the highest batting average of any so before you laugh, you might want to crack a book. Something like 90 percent of what Masaw predicted has come to pass. Masaw was a righteous god and is not one to be mocked.
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2Cr 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

What has Christianity to do with the lying prophecys of the Hopi, Mayans and Olmecs?
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Don't look now, but it seems to me you have something on your shoulder, a chip perhaps?
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Masaw was a righteous god and is not one to be mocked.
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Is that your opinion? or did you read that somewhere?

I only have one God, and all others fail in comparison. The singularity, that blueprint, that blue star, that light that shines at the end of the show. And me, I'm just a messenger...

I think to understand prophecies of endtimes, all you need to understand is how the earths magnetic field works, when that moves, then you know mankind will move with it.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with the role the Earth's electromagnetic field plays in intelligence, moods and even natural disasters.

As for Masaw, my opinion is if you research it you will probably be impressed. It's an impressive tale. But hey, since you already know everything ...
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Yeah, I'm familiar with the role the Earth's electromagnetic field plays in intelligence, moods and even natural disasters.
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Did you also know that each direction of the compass has a conscious energy controlling it?

In the red corner, the east, the conscience energy influenced by mars. In the green corner, the west, venus. In the blue corner, to the north controlled by mercury. And last but not least we have purple, virgo, to the south. Now, these energies have a role to play. As venus in the west strips the fruit of the east to be reborn to the north to give light to the south. The closer we get to the singularity and get to the 2012 mark, the more you'll see venus stripping the east, bearing of fruit eh!

Its a natural process, earth has a pole flip, mankind has a poleflip, conscience of man moves from mars to mercury, the neutral zone which is a direct reflection of that singularity, that god mind, our higher selves

As above, so below a they say..
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2Cr 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

What has Christianity to do with the lying prophecys of the Hopi, Mayans and Olmecs?
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Go look it up in one of your Chick Tracts. I'm sure you'll find the answer there.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with the role the Earth's electromagnetic field plays in intelligence, moods and even natural disasters.


Did you also know that each direction of the compass has a conscious energy controlling it?

In the red corner, the east, the conscience energy influenced by mars. In the green corner, the west, venus. In the blue corner, to the north controlled by mercury. And last but not least we have purple, virgo, to the south. Now, these energies have a role to play. As venus in the west strips the fruit of the east to be reborn to the north to give light to the south. The closer we get to the singularity and get to the 2012 mark, the more you'll see venus stripping the east, bearing of fruit eh!

Its a natural process, earth has a pole flip, mankind has a poleflip, conscience of man moves from mars to mercury, the neutral zone which is a direct reflection of that singularity, that god mind, our higher selves

As above, so below a they say..
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More, please.
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More, please.
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I think enough said really. I think the best advice I can give anybody in the turmoil of these fields going haywire is to stay neutral, neutral meaning a single emotion. To be corny - Love, love is that neutral between positive and negative, between mars and venus. There that blueprint of mercury is back to sprit

Hows that famous quote go? spilt a rock and there you shall find me. The neutral ground is that neutral point between positive and negative, as like as a feather as they say eh!
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I can dig it. I knew this old time mystic and he said that there were three types of "passion." First you have passion, which is the inspiration of all that terrible music that's piped into supermarkets, malls and restaurants. Passion is intense, tossing the individual around like the waves of an ocean rock a boat; they love, then they hate, then they love again. Next you have compassion where one is broad-minded enough to relate and to feel empathy but yet is not entirely given over to any one side. Finally, he said, you have dispassion, wherein one is detached, even distant yet fully capable of total empathy. I'm sure I'm botching his words, but the point is there ...
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rubbish
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Leonidas, you've changed! Something about you is different. What could it be? Hmmmmm.

Looks to me like holoverse drew heavily on Hopi prophecy, the references to great distances being spanned in short periods of time, man being controlled by his hip, that's straight from Masaw.

I'll check out your flick.
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Yea, newer av...the bookcover is slightly different, but the contents are the same.

I haven't heard of Masaw (or Masau). The interesting story of the Four Migrations reminds me of what might happen in the event of (or in preparation of?) a polar shift in which the continents are displaced and the remainder of civilizations are forced to seek new hospitable living conditions.
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The interesting story of the Four Migrations reminds me of what might happen in the event of (or in preparation of?) a polar shift in which the continents are displaced and the remainder of civilizations are forced to seek new hospitable living conditions.
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You've got it. That is exactly the case.

Thanx for the flick. Some interesting stuff there from Tsarion as always. He's special.

Here's some more of his stuff on 2012:

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By the way, the Olmec predicted that this cycle of mankind, the 4th in mankinds current material manifestation but the 5th overall, will end in earthquakes.

That should get the convo rollling.
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You mean Olmec from The Legends of the Hidden Temple? I believe it man, that shit was sweet! 2012
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Here's some more of his stuff on 2012:
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Are you kidding? I've watched that one so many times I know it by heart. I love that little exchange at the end between him and what sounds like a long-time critic of his.

Special indeed. He's one of a kind.
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I love that little exchange at the end between him and what sounds like a long-time critic of his.
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Where the guy presses him on quoting from M.P. Hall and Crowley? People get locked in these paradigms with rigid definitions of good and evil and essentially blind themselves to greater realities.

Tsarion is a badass. One thing, though, that bugs me is he never even mentions Sitchin. The two cover the same ground, the same issues, the ancient astronauts and their legacy, but neither mentions the other.

Take The Deluge for example.

Sitchin says it was Nibiru's passage pulling loose an ice cap, causing tidal waves and massive storms to roar from pole to pole and back again.

Tsarion says it was an intergallactic war that exploded a water planet and then Earth passed through the debris: water.

Two quite different accounts.
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You mean Olmec from The Legends of the Hidden Temple? I believe it man, that shit was sweet! 2012
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Man, the Olmec were bizarre. Have you seen those giant stone heads, clearly depicting Africans wearing what look like modern-day flight helmets. The Olmec are so anomalous that most modern historians tend to pretend they never were.

[link to www.ccha-assoc.org]

That's right, Africans in Mexico long before Europeans.
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Horizon Project website is down and link to video above says "unavailable"
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The Mayan prophecies will not come to pass on 12/12.

Here is what the God of the Bible has to say about it:


"This is what the LORD says—
your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb:
I am the LORD,
who has made all things,
who alone stretched out the heavens,
who spread out the earth by myself,
25 who foils the signs of false prophets
and makes fools of diviners,
who overthrows the learning of the wise
and turns it into nonsense..."


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Here is His opinion of the idols of the Mayans:


"... All who make idols are nothing,
and the things they treasure are worthless.
Those who would speak up for them are blind;
they are ignorant, to their own shame.

10 Who shapes a god and casts an idol,
which can profit him nothing?

11 He and his kind will be put to shame;
craftsmen are nothing but men.
Let them all come together and take their stand;
they will be brought down to terror and infamy.

12 The blacksmith takes a tool
and works with it in the coals;
he shapes an idol with hammers,
he forges it with the might of his arm.
He gets hungry and loses his strength;
he drinks no water and grows faint.

13 The carpenter measures with a line
and makes an outline with a marker;
he roughs it out with chisels
and marks it with compasses.
He shapes it in the form of man,
of man in all his glory,
that it may dwell in a shrine.

14 He cut down cedars,
or perhaps took a cypress or oak.
He let it grow among the trees of the forest,
or planted a pine, and the rain made it grow.

15 It is man's fuel for burning;
some of it he takes and warms himself,
he kindles a fire and bakes bread.
But he also fashions a god and worships it;
he makes an idol and bows down to it.

16 Half of the wood he burns in the fire;
over it he prepares his meal,
he roasts his meat and eats his fill.
He also warms himself and says,
"Ah! I am warm; I see the fire."

17 From the rest he makes a god, his idol;
he bows down to it and worships.
He prays to it and says,
"Save me; you are my god."

18 They know nothing, they understand nothing;
their eyes are plastered over so they cannot see,
and their minds closed so they cannot understand.

19 No one stops to think,
no one has the knowledge or understanding to say,
"Half of it I used for fuel;
I even baked bread over its coals,
I roasted meat and I ate.
Shall I make a detestable thing from what is left?
Shall I bow down to a block of wood?"

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Do you actually think that after reading this - that the God of the Jews, of the Christians, would coincide prophecy with Mayan idols? I don't think so... that would be ridiculous.
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I have read books on Hopi and Mayan prophecy. Ask me a question and I will respond.

By the way, the Olmec predicted that this cycle of mankind, the 4th in mankinds current material manifestation but the 5th overall, will end in earthquakes.

That should get the convo rollling.
 Quoting: Polynonymous Howard

Actually, this is the third main cycle. How is that? I was shown this. It may be that the three I was shown are more encompassing.

The first was wicked; evil.

The second was helpers coming to us; what the Easter Island stautes are all about.

The third is now.
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By the way, the Olmec predicted that this cycle of mankind, the 4th in mankinds current material manifestation but the 5th overall, will end in earthquakes.

That should get the convo rollling.


You mean Olmec from The Legends of the Hidden Temple? I believe it man, that shit was sweet! 2012
 Quoting: Jory 369198

Actually thats not going to happen :) Things may have changed from what was expected....

We are going up :)
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Actually, this is the third main cycle. How is that? I was shown this. It may be that the three I was shown are more encompassing.

The first was wicked; evil.

The second was helpers coming to us; what the Easter Island stautes are all about.

The third is now.
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Okay, but the Vedas speak of five and the Hopi of four. The difference is the Vedas account for one human cycle where the humans weren't what we'd now consider to be human. Anyway, I'm always open to new ideas, new interpretations.
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Horizon Project website is down and link to video above says "unavailable"
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It works for me. Try again.

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