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California to Legalize Weed for Everyone(?)

 
Aaron
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There is an initiative in the works that could end up on the November ballot that allows for marijuana to be sold to anyone, and anywhere that already sells alcohol.

Its being called The Inalienable Rights Enforcement Initiative.

From the full text of the measure:
..This initiative will amend the Constitution of California to defend and safeguard the inalienable rights of the People against infringement by governments and corporations, providing for the lawful growth, sale, and possession of marijuana.

Marijuana will be taxed through a system of stamps and licenses--a $5 stamp will be required for the sale of an eighth ounce of marijuana and a $50 annual license will be required for the growth of one marijuana plant.

To protect participants and encourage participation in the system, such licenses and stamps will be available anonymously in stores where marijuana is sold.

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So instead of getting some quack doctor to give you a prescription for $100 because of your supposed "anxiety" or alleged "insomnia", you will just pay an extra tax each time you buy yourself another 8th.

Aside from allowing all willing adults to be able to buy weed easily, this initiative will start to generate revenue for California, and stimulate our struggling economy.

More weed stores means more jobs for Californians, more taxes to be collected, and more people enjoying better weed.

And finally marijuana will be put into the same file as Alcohol and Cigarettes where it belongs, instead of it being equated with crack-cocaine and heroine.

The initiative goes on to say why they believe this to be a necessary measure:
..We also hold these truths to be self-evident-That, as an intoxicant, marijuana is far less harmful to the health and safety of the People than alcohol--That, as a smoking substance, marijuana is far less addictive or harmful to the health of the People than tobacco--That, even though alcohol is harmful to the health and safety of the People, the prohibition of alcohol from 1920 to 1933 only increased the harms associated with alcohol use: criminals seized control of the alcohol market, crime and violence increased greatly, and poverty, unemployment, and corruption flourished, while otherwise lawful alcohol drinkers were treated as "criminals" subject to detention, arrest, and incarceration, even though they had not harmed the rights of anyone--That, as with alcohol prohibition, the prohibition of marijuana has only increased the harms associated with the use of marijuana: criminals control a multi-billion dollar market, crime and violence have increased greatly, and poverty, unemployment, and corruption flourish, while otherwise law-abiding marijuana smokers are treated as "criminals" subject to detention, arrest, and incarceration, even though they have not harmed the rights of anyone-That the history of marijuana prohibition is a history of repeated injuries and infringements upon the inalienable rights, powers, and best interests of the People.

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Fuck Yes! Preach on, brothers! They go on to point out that alcohol, tobacco, and big-pharma lobbyists have the politicians that are supposed to represent the People in their back-pockets and serving the interests of the alcohol, tobacco, and big-pharma industries.

..Despite the harms of marijuana prohibition, politicians persist in imposing and upholding marijuana prohibition, because these politicians are not working for the People--they are working for the corporate executives who financed their campaigns, such as corporate executives in the alcohol industry who want to protect their monopoly on intoxication, corporate executives in the tobacco industry who want to protect their monopoly on smoking, corporate executives in the pharmaceutical industry who want to protect their monopoly on expensive medicines, and corporate executives in the many industries threatened by competition with hemp.

These corporate executives pull the strings of the government to perpetuate marijuana prohibition despite its harms, because they do not care about the inalienable rights and best interests of the People--they care about taking as much money from the People as possible.

These corporate executives also use their control of the mainstream media to make it seem like marijuana prohibition is a failed attempt to serve the interests of the People, censoring the idea that marijuana prohibition is a successful attempt to serve corporate interests at the expense of the People. For these corporate interests, politicians sacrifice the inalienable rights and best interests of the People. This corruption and corporate influence is worse at the national level, where the People can least afford political influence and the media is most effective at manipulating public debate.

Because of this corruption, it is futile for the People to turn to the federal government for protection--because the federal government is the source of the harm.


The repeated attempts by the People to reduce the harms of marijuana prohibition have been answered only by repeated injury. The harm from marijuana prohibition is ongoing and the need for relief is urgent. Such is the suffering of the People, and such is the necessity that constrains us to alter our former systems of government. A government with a character marked by every act that defines a tyrant is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Therefore, appealing to humankind for the rightness of our intentions..

They need 694,354 signatures by September, 5, 2008. I think it's totally do-able. Its been over a decade since Proposition 215, the Compassionate Use Act of 1996, was passed with over 5 million votes in favor.

So 12 years later... are we more or less tolerant of recreational use of marijuana? For now, we'll have to wait and see.

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(Note from Jack: Just want to comment that my doctors are not quacks. Thanks.)
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This is all nice and all but what really matters is what the FEDS think.
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This is all nice and all but what really matters is what the FEDS think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 410388

yup, hence the question mark i added, which was not in the original article.

that reminds me..
'Just say no to EMPIRE, D.A.R.E. to keep the CIA off drugs' :-)
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This is all nice and all but what really matters is what the FEDS think.
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... I'd just hafta say that it's about fuckin' time!... and then no, I would also have to disagree with ya that what really matters is what the Feds think. And well, lol, cuz to most all of the folks I have ever known it hasn't mattered all that much anyways.
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I wonder if you have to be a ca resident (if/when)?
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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Fuckin' California commie punk ass bastards.


50 bucks per plant. They can bite me.

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A step in the right direction at least and about DAMN time!
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I will be moving there if this passes!
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Hilarious. Give it a watch.


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Fuckin' California commie punk ass bastards.


50 bucks per plant. They can bite me.

Licenses and Privileges are for SLAVES.
 Quoting: Omega

Agreed, still playing thier corporate game.
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Fuckin' California commie punk ass bastards.


50 bucks per plant. They can bite me.

Licenses and Privileges are for SLAVES.
 Quoting: Omega


i agree... but it is atleast a step in the right direction.

and, this is going to (if it passes) be a great step for legalization in other areas.



i wish i were there to vote on it. and to smoke on it.


besides, do you really think people are gonna give a damn about the stamps, etc??? fuck no, they'll just carry on like they did before (except the really cautious ones), only they won't have to worry as much.


fuck. i'd be willing to give an extra 5 bucks an eighth for the peace of mind that i couldn't be arrested for it. and then, the growing part, 50 is a little much, but still very worth it. although, license to grow is fucking ridiculous, it's a plant... i can understand a tax to sell tho.
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neato. talk about a b00st in toursim $$$ ...
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would help the housing market there.
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When the Depression hit, they ended prohibiton.

Maybe history will repeat.
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Fuckin' California commie punk ass bastards.


50 bucks per plant. They can bite me.

Licenses and Privileges are for SLAVES.
 Quoting: Omega

surely its 50 bucks per plant that you have at a time not every plant?

id gladly pay 200 bucks to always have 4 plants going at a time... 2 green and 2 flower or something like that...

i mean, im moving to california... chuckle
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even if it is 50 bucks you can surely get 2 ounces of primo green per plant....

how much is the going rate for an ounce of kb?
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Fuckin' California commie punk ass bastards.


50 bucks per plant. They can bite me.

Licenses and Privileges are for SLAVES.
 Quoting: Omega

Indeed, it seems some really cannot understand the full meaning of such terms as: "shall not be abridged", "shall not be infringed" and last but not least "unalienable".
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Fuckin' California commie punk ass bastards.


50 bucks per plant. They can bite me.

Licenses and Privileges are for SLAVES.
 Quoting: Omega


Shut up and take your Thorazine, whack job.
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Fuckin' California commie punk ass bastards.

50 bucks per plant. They can bite me.

Licenses and Privileges are for SLAVES.
 Quoting: Omega


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Fuckin' California commie punk ass bastards.


50 bucks per plant. They can bite me.

Licenses and Privileges are for SLAVES.
 Quoting: Omega



LoL

Damn I love your posts Omega.

But seriously, technically licenses and permits aren't for slaves, because slaves couldn't really have a license or a permit since they are property. Licenses and permits are for SUBJECTS.

If you are not a SUBJECT to the King/Queen/Authority, you need no permit or license from said Law Giver. A Sovereign needs no permit or license since they are the rulers of their own life.

Anyway, it's a minor linguistic point but not merely semantics either; and I figured you are sharp enough to understand without getting pissed off or offended and since words mean things I figured I'd throw it out there.
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Will cause mass rest. and mass munchies
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!then when the quake comes the poor gay druggies won t know what hittem...sounds like a setup! Sodom and gomorah all rolled up in californica
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I'm $15,000 in debt because I had "too many" plants in my tiny closet.

I'm trying to get my probation amended to allow medical marijuana. (I have a LOT of stress!!!)

Is this California or NAZI GERMANY?


The Just-US system is just giving me more stress!!!

I want to see the bastards burn in hell and I want to spit on them.

Seriously!


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even if it is 50 bucks you can surely get 2 ounces of primo green per plant....

how much is the going rate for an ounce of kb?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432406


yeah you can get more than $50 bucks worth of bud out of a plant for sure, but I doubt that many will pay the fee anyway.
Here in Missouri an ounce of KB goes for around 400-500 usually, depending on the strand.
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feds are dweebs and nerds
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Hilarious. Give it a watch.


 Quoting: ProvenPatriot

YES, I HAVE!! What were talking about??

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hmmmm... I'll believe it when I see it.

The Governator recently rejected a proposal to allow farmers to grow hemp - even if it was to be used for nonsmoking purposes (textiles, etc...).

I think this initiative is wishful thinking.
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put that in your pipe
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Right on Omega!

The herb is already legal in my jurisdiction, my own little world, free of regulations, restrictions, licenses.

I smoke the green herb freely, without prejudice and where ever and when ever I like.

It's pretty good stuff too. LOL.

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