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An Unusual Transversal: A Unique Case?

 
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In the 1999 Link conference, a transversal in body-form identified himself as an asexual member of a hyperversal commonality (HC) (or community of biominds) that he said belonged to a much larger HC predating the "present cycle" (i.e., the Big Bang). His HC, according to what he communicated, was undergoing what was described to human attendees as a "campaign of self-renewal." At the outset, we found it strange as several years before, we had come in contact with other so-called transversals at another conference; these identified themselves as having "client biokinds," of whom they were supposed "guides" through still another "shepherd." On that occasion, human attendees (us included [and by 'us' I mean whoever from the "Institute" stood in as representative for all of us]) were informed that we would meet the "shepherd" at the next conference. The "shepherds" turned out to be those we learned were called Verdants, and the scheme was a straightforward pitch for us to support an Earth colonization plan unveiled that following year in exchange for aggrandizement, elevation of means, career and power. Suffice it to say that not a single human attendee at the conference gave support to the scheme, or signed on. So, having come in contact with transversals prior to 1999, the new approach was taken with a large grain of salt.

It turns out the transversal in body-form we met at the 1999 conference was one of several "field officers" from a group originally from the M-65 galaxy, but occupying several space/time LOMs in the globular clusters near the center of our Milky Way galaxy. At first we believed this to be a hoax since, at the mention of M-65, the galaxy was a candidate location for an ontocyborenergetic (or cyborg-type) life form (the Animus) we had been tracking then for already nearly a month. However, this transveral entity's initial signature and unusual transparency took the three of us that were attending by complete surprise. A male specimen (quite possibly a biological avatar), his communication was an unusual blend of fluid cognitives (highly clear combinations of discernible vector-intentional information, patterned information weaving multiple content, processes of the embedded patterns, holographic and 2-dimensional visuals, and broadband information on content conveyed in a dense informatic topology) and unusually powerful emotives for an alien. ETs we had met thus far were not known for being emotional beings. The fluid informatics of his unabridged communication was far more than just abstract and detached mental thoughtscapes - the style made him downright likeable. His communication style was a breath of fresh air, when compared to that of other aliens, in particular the previous transversals. It was this aspect of his overall signature that initially made us most distrustful of him. He was too good to be true.

At this initial contact with him, the three from the Institute were told he was to work with us on "certain things" and on "asking the right questions." He proceeded to tell us, chapter and verse, exactly what we were working on at the time, a complete description of the people involved, the attention arising on other quarters regarding the work being done, etc. He also told us how he knew, and showed us how he garnered the information. In other words, he won our consent to accept his help without forcing the issue, or steering us toward the conclusion he wished us to reach. The three considered the matter and replied to him they would accept, provided the entire Institute membership joined in their decision. They also informed him that we reserved the right of closure and termination, if and when we detected it was no longer in our best interest to continue the connection, and insisted that he, or any other of his kind, would not make any attempts at dissuading any member. He agreed and told us he would "visit" with us gnosively (mind-on-mind, or by sharing the same mindscape) and in person over the next month. He did, and this was our opportunity to learn about how hyperversals of his kind (and of other kinds) transduced themselves from their index LOMs to ours on Earth. Through them we also learn that what we called "extension neurosensing" was also the basis for how they transduced from one place to another.

He instructed us on how to compose heuristics (or research questions) to guide ourselves in studying what Nature is and how she works. The hyperversal also shared with us the systemic workings of Earth as a host to life, how its life forms formed a close knit weave of life inside what we came to call the "life belt" of Earth, how all life on Earth was connected to one another by what Cleve Backster had christened as "primary perception," a biocommunication condition of all life, including human life, how art and music played a role in the elevation of awareness and thinking of the human race, their roles and benchmarks by which to gauge biokind evolution, and how to conceptualize the systemics of the informatics of life on Earth. He also provided us with a kind of recipe for enhancing human intelligence without resorting to energetic or biochemical means, and a detailed map of Earth which pinpointed specific geopositions of what we recognized to be "power spots" or "power locations." These we were told are beneficent geopositions to human health and welfare, and that some of them were crisscrossed by subterranean water currents whose waters were also beneficial to humans. The most welcome, and amazing, assistance rendered by this being was his initial guidance to our neurosensors extending timelike (first), and then spacelike (subsequently) as part of research pursuits of aspects of Nature and how Nature works.

Although he does not have a name as we do on Earth, he consented to the name Ka'I, and that's what we will call him here. Yes, he is a male, but an asexual one at that. That is, he was most likely born in the equivalent of a test tube. We yet don't know much about their reproductive technology to accurately characterize and offer a definitive view on how he came to be. All we know about himself, as a personhood and unit of life of his lifekind and overfunction commonality, is that he fulfills a function we translated as field officer.
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Ka'I reported that he and many others of his kind had undertaken the equivalent of a campaign of rejuvenation of their HC (hyperversal commonality) community of mind. We remarked in reply that what his kind was doing was what we humans called "going back to one's roots," a kind of getting in touch with the best and the worst of oneself. He then launched into an overview of this campaign. Ka'I told of a physical existence during the previous cycle (i.e., before the Big Bang) on a planet much like Earth, as humans much like us; humanoids, he said, were the majority biokind in their galaxy, which was located the equivalent of a trillion light-years from the Alpha site (the relative location where their cycle had begun). There was a cycle before theirs, he informed us, but then as now there were multiple opposing forces (social, sexual vs. asexual, political, technological, bureaucratic, imperial and military), which were in a hurry to control resources, real estate (i.e., life-bearing planets), populations and access to technologies across the expanse of their universe. Multiple errors were committed by those with superior technologies, he said, such that many lifekinds (his word) were "erased" by the physical and thought wars during the first third of their cycle's existence. Their cycle lasted the equivalent of 300 billion years, and could have lasted 100 more, according to Ka'I. However, the cumulative depletion of time energy and the growing imbalance between positive and negative energies began a destabilizing cascade, he explained, such that temperature started to rise across their universe. The most advanced lifekinds had already mastered "thought technology," he said, and there were those who offered others "transition transforms" form technology, once a determination had been made by something he called "the circle" to engineer a transition from their cycle to a new one. We asked what transition form transform technology was; Ka'I explained it through a metaphor we were all familiar with: the teletransporter.

He explained the technology thus: a lifekind exists because it is information first and only. Even the physical essence of a lifekind is an information anthology, he said (in reference to DNA). The physical form is nothing without the information cloud surrounding it. It is this information cloud that "you are, have been, will always be," he said. This information cloud also contains all the necessary information about "your physical essence" (which we took to mean only DNA, but he corrected us to mean DNA and its entire history of expression during the lifetime of existence of the biokind), and has a "back-up library" as "photonic memory" (when in 4-spacetime), or otherwise (when "distributed levels of manifestation as energies of time and space break down") as seemingly undifferentiated but coherent nonrandomized information. In other words, lifekind information can and does survive cycle transitions by using the equivalent of a teletransporter, he explained, without a 4-d LOM to return to "on the other side" (i.e., inside the new cycle). This allows for phase transition as an "information cumulus," Ka'I explained, without the cumulus being affected by the lower-level reconfigurations. Ka'I's descriptions dovetailed with those given by Frank Tipler's Omega theory, with minor differences by a few degrees. This also gave us the idea that perhaps Jacob Bekenstein's universe is the way things are: a universe of finite information but without boundaries.
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Ka'I's Lifekind Agenda And Field Program.
Much like the hyperversal lifekinds who are behind the so-called Verdants, Ka'I's lifekind also sponsors "aspiring biokinds" in this current cycle who have reached levels of balanced social, political and technological development. He was careful to also note that these are civilizations which have not fallen into an expediency approach to governance - his way of describing and referring to civilizations that govern their populations by psychotronic means of control, heavy hierarchical control of the populus by an elite, and who are either sexual or asexual in reproductive strategy. We are yet not in the "category" of biokinds they "sponsor," but seem to fit some kind of "profile" by which they choose who to pursue. Apparently, we are one of those species. Our take on the essence of what we sense to be their agenda is the saying that "honey works much better than vinegar." Let me now flesh out what this seems to mean.

As an aspiring biokind, humankind finds itself at a unique kind of crossroads. At present, we are overweight in the kind of elitism in our governance and leadership, such that few control the means of production, distribution of resources, exploitation of such resources, sociopolitical and socioeconomic processes, political ecology, and the directions in which our species is heading. At the same time, there are the masses of humans dislocated from the process, who are controlled, manipulated, coerced, lied to, and otherwise placed in sociopolitical and socioeconomic templates suitable to the goals and objectives of such elites. To these hyperversals, the very survival of the human species on Earth depends on the collective choices we make in the next few hundred years, and more specifically, our actions and behaviors in the next few decades. Ka'I said there were a handful of "field officers" such as himself, working with human groups they see as promising in being able to stimulate and foster the kinds of changes that may lead to the kind of social and political ecology consonant with humankind's need to begin "speaking with a considerably more cohesive voice, and making choices that are aligned with the real interest of the entire membership," not just the interests of the controlling elites. He also stated more than once that there are several "sponsored biokinds" also on Earth, assisting members of his lifekind and monitoring activities of human groups already enabled by them to continue what he referred to as a "campaign of awakening developing." This campaign is said to involve both witting (conscious) and unwitting (insufficiently conscious) but receptive development of individuals capable of "self-integration" (a way of being together all aspects of a human being's biological "lifeware" or "living matrix" into a kind of "working community of mental-emotional assets" we chose to call biomind). A byproduct of this self-integration is such a biomind, but he said it encompassed much more, including the resonant harmonizing of all living forms on the planet, animal and vegetable, unicellular and multicellular. However, he added, "the biomind that can make a difference is the sum total of mind membership of all humans on Earth."
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We asked more than once just how would this be possible, given the electronically psychoactive (or psychotronic) means available to elites on Earth, which can be used to dampen, suppress, and even discontinue such potentially nonlinear/nonlocal holomovement-integrating movement already taking place on Earth. His response was quite illuminating. "At this time, even blanket psychotronic entrainment done now is not enough to entrain all minds all the time. Blanket psychotronic entrainment is done at present to prevent masses from realizing what is happening to them, and while sophisticated, they cannot yet change minds outright. Why is this? It is so because each human being on Earth is too complex in biomind makeup to be able to affect and modify consistently all the time over the long run. Present use of psychotronic means is not gauged, or powerful enough, to produce the kinds of responses we have seen on other planets, because the whole of humankind has yet not been completely broken, dislocated from itself and from the planet. Yes, to break a biokind is possible, and it is this that is part of what is being done unto you. But fortunately, there are too many belief systems on Earth competing for the people's hearts and minds, and in turn, these compete powerfully with the messages embedded in psychotronic persuasion. But," and here is an important caveat, "those whose interest is to break you also fully understand what I know you now call the 3-percent rule or principle. If 3-percent of your population on Earth can be entrained consistently to be exposed to a belief system represented to them as what is best for all, over time the rest of the population will be brought into line. With what kinds of results? Mixed at best, because of the continuing competition of preexisting belief systems that go underground. Did pagan beliefs die out when your Christianity gained hegemony during the early years of your current era? No. We have seen belief imposition campaigns done before unto people from other planets, with some relative success. But this success was mixed, and supported by power; that is, the controllers also had to use coercion and in some cases isolated force coupled to continuing psychotronic propaganda to retain, remain in, and sustain the necessary levels of control. We found them time consuming, heavy-handed and often very dislocating. Somewhat of the same thing has also happened in your history as I know it." We asked then if there were alternatives to this approach, and most importantly, what can we do about what is being done unto us now?

His reply was again broadbrush but to the point. "Today, your biokind is dislocated in mind. These are the cultures of the people, which provide the necessary worldview for the people to be able to live with one mind about the world. There is no 'human culture' as such, but we find that there is an emerging one, still faint as a sense of humanity, a sense of oneness, which is what is needed. You have an expression which covers what I am trying to say very well. 'We are all in the same boat.' We don't yet see that people of Earth understand the 'boat they are in.' The electronic means we know now exist is a start." [Here he was making a reference to the internet.] "But again this very means is controlled by those in whose interests is to control it. Why? The technology that is now the basis and extent of how your biokind is now connective electronically is also the very idea used on other planets to connect each being to a diffused locus of control, but instead of an external device, internal ones are used and very effectively. This is generally used when the biokind has already been broken and must now be brought and kept under control. Some of the means already implanted in some humans can also be used in this way. But it is not, not yet. At least, not in all those who already have them in their bodies. An acceleration of implementation is not far off. You frame things as being a battle for the hearts and minds; I have heard you do so in the past. But it is not really a battle. It then becomes a very insidious campaign to entrap and modulate minds to be only sensitive to thoughts and ideas the controllers want the masses to be. It is not a battle, because the war has already been won. How many of your people already get their 'reality' packaged by television? The same can be done with this other electronic means of interconnection. But first, the controllers will have to create means of control, if not by legality, then by advanced technological means. This, too, is already beginning to happen." What about alternatives?
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His reply was most thought-provoking. "We are here for us, for ourselves. It is in our best interest that alternatives be found and made to work. I speak of alternatives to gross control and expediency of manipulation. You have had despots in your history, and they were heavy-handed and brutal. In this cycle, brutality still exists as a means of acquiring and sometimes retaining control of planets. But despotism is now much more insidious again, because it is presented to the masses of a planet as the governance platform which can offer them most safety and seeming progress. It is also much more diffused, and the locus of control is hidden behind bureaucracies far larger and much more extended than anything you have or ever had on Earth." What alternatives exist to either heavy handed or "soft" despotism (the latter being our word for what he described as "diffused centralized governance")? "The answer to that depends on how we, who have moved through what you call evolution to level-expressions that are completely idiomaterial, choose to conceive of ourselves, and then project this conception unto you, who are yet biological beings." And how is that? "As you are now aware of our thinking style and the layering of considerations we take in examining situations, we follow an embedded logic that demands we arrive at flowing views which our analysis gives us essential features and meanings associated with situations embedded in what we examine. The layers we also use, or perspectives as you call them, are also multiple because meaning is always embedded in the first level at which we approach an event of interest to us. In my lifekind, even before the new phase cycle, at the infrastructure of what you call elders council, the closest thing we have to what you call governance, realizations began to seep in that there were large bands [Ka'I used this term as we use the idea of 'bandwidth'] of meanings that were being left unexamined because we conceived of them as lower-order and therefore counter-evolving. However, at the onset of the new phase cycle, we came to the realization that all lifekinds, such as what we had chosen to become, were also approaching the seeking of meaning in like fashion. As life became multiple life forms, and many of these became mind-bearing in the ranges mind work, corpoconscious life forms, much as we had when we used bodies to express, also experienced or expressed bands of information which made them connective in ways we were not in the Unum. We saw other lifekinds ignore these bands, and not fully understand the facets of evolvement that offered opportunities for alternatives to what you are asking."

Was he referring to emotions experienced by biological entities? Did he also imply that emotional intelligence can, and should, play a role in what he called "evolvement" (and we translated as "evolution") of biokinds along a spectrum toward becoming lifekinds? His reply would indicate that this was likely the case. "Yes, I am referring to the emotions we often see biokinds in the present cycle manifest and express. But we do not refer to their unbridled manifestation, devoid of appropriate channeling and intelligence-bearing expression. So we see both their de-evolving manifestations and evolving ones as well, and have come to appreciate that it is necessary for us to evolve this band as well, and continue today in our campaign to do so. We reached conclusions that indicated to us the need to add this evolvement to our commonality as one because the qualities this band add to the complete I common are necessary in making decisions that affect and effect other lifekinds and biokinds. With biokinds such as yourselves, you have these qualities you often misuse by the solipsism of your senses. In our common I, the perspectives are myriad and the possible range of choices equally many. But for my common I to make determination that you must die so that others may evolve and live, or benefit from the resources of your planet, solely on bases that are propelled by logic devoid of the very qualities we are re-evolving across our commonality is engineering with a terminal solution that we then effect thus so as to bring into existence a condition in which one life stream is absent and another disappears. We have done so before, one more than one occasion.
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Difficult decisions must often be made thus. However, for us to again make such kinds of decision, we must be able to evaluate the worth of a biokind's life stream on much more than the logical frameworks within we have previously decided. We have now opted to also include the very qualities we are now evolving in our common I and applying them to the evaluation of your life stream. We have claimed stake in the decision making within the commonalities involved in resolving such issues in the present universe cycle, and we are here to be involved directly in the ascertaining of the qualities you bring to the whole that functions as one of many. We have and we will continue to assist the many initiatives we now grasp to be worthy within your commonality, to assist you in grasping the issues that now affect you by being part of the whole that functions as one of many in this universe cycle, to remand you to a different, more consonant stance in guidance when and where needed, to guard the process that is yours to go through in order to witness the choices you make on your own behalf, and to prevent other from derailing what must occur by your own hands and own interests, and not in the interests of those who covet your planet."

At this juncture, we changed course, onto other issues. The foregoing, however, paints a fairly accurate picture of the thinking displayed by this hyperversal. Needless to say, while much of what he said enlightens us to their thinking and decision making, it also raises more questions that we continue to ask of Ka'I. At some point in the near future, all of us who have had and continue to have contact with him will make an attempt at collecting all content into a manuscript that represents and allows him to speak for himself to a much wider audience.
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That was a very interesting and amazing if even a part of this is true. I hope that Ka'I and his people can continue to help us evolve into free thinking beings and help us to make contact with similar civilizations as ourselves, so that we can better understand our galaxy and our universe. If it is true,(this is an amazing concept) that an advanced civilization was able to survive the last contraction of our universe by going into spiritual form, in other words by going into what we would call, "Ascended Beings", then all our concepts of the universe would have to change. Perhaps it was beings such as this who helped bring about the last Big Bang and the start of our present universe. Perhaps it is such beings helping us along in our evolution that the term, "God", came from, and it was such beings that survived the last universal collapse, that had a hand in creating the religions of earth. I found it very interesting that Ka'I and his people have observed many other advanced civilization get taken over by a group of dictatorial elitists by using technology that controlled peoples minds. I sincerely hope that never happens on our planet, but like Ka'I said we have so many competing religions and philosophies, competing for human attention right now, that this is an impossibility at this time. But we as a species must be ever vigilant to watch and protect ourselves from such technology in the future.
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Beware 'the common I' !
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Wasn't upset... just curious. No need (or use, anymore) to link to OP. Posting this stuff everywhere you may be posting it already draws attention as there's only a select few who originally had access to it. But that's ok... no harm done. All of this is going to be in a book available to the public at some point anyway... and so far only a small taste has been made available on these and other fora.

But I'll let you be scapegoat now... already have people trying to reset my password on here.

N.M.
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Wasn't upset... just curious. No need (or use, anymore) to link to OP. Posting this stuff everywhere you may be posting it already draws attention as there's only a select few who originally had access to it. But that's ok... no harm done. All of this is going to be in a book available to the public at some point anyway... and so far only a small taste has been made available on these and other fora.

But I'll let you be scapegoat now... already have people trying to reset my password on here.

N.M.
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This I am use to.

...and how would that be possible unless someone here could get into people's email accounts?


Sorry if I came on like an asshole in the other thread.
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Yeah, don't know what whoever did it was thinking... obviously not a jag.

No worries about coming off as an asshole. I understand that my comment may have been perceived assholishly (though not intended to be) and you were merely defending your actions with the same bandwidth.

Curious - do you have another nickname with the word "wave" in it?
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You know its interesting I linked this thread in the july 5th Zetatalk and it got hit over 200x in 7 days! But not one reply during that time...
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Yeah, don't know what whoever did it was thinking... obviously not a jag.

No worries about coming off as an asshole. I understand that my comment may have been perceived assholishly (though not intended to be) and you were merely defending your actions with the same bandwidth.

Curious - do you have another nickname with the word "wave" in it?
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Sometimes I use "~~" little wave signs before my name when I sign emails...
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Did you hear Phil Krapf on C2C not too long ago? He talked about his "guardian angel" Paul - note the behavioral similarities between Paul (as described by Phil) and Ka'I. That's a clue as to what "Paul" really is... no bs.
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Yeah, don't know what whoever did it was thinking... obviously not a jag.

No worries about coming off as an asshole. I understand that my comment may have been perceived assholishly (though not intended to be) and you were merely defending your actions with the same bandwidth.

Curious - do you have another nickname with the word "wave" in it?

Sometimes I use "~~" little wave signs before my name when I sign emails...
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Ah, ok. Nevermind then. Thought you were another fellow who's been posting related materials on other fora.
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Hmmm... I haven't listened to C2C for awhile but if its recent the podcast should still be available on my itunes. I'll have to check it out.
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It was the July 2nd show. Check it out...
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Yeah, don't know what whoever did it was thinking... obviously not a jag.

No worries about coming off as an asshole. I understand that my comment may have been perceived assholishly (though not intended to be) and you were merely defending your actions with the same bandwidth.

Curious - do you have another nickname with the word "wave" in it?

Sometimes I use "~~" little wave signs before my name when I sign emails...


Ah, ok. Nevermind then. Thought you were another fellow who's been posting related materials on other fora.
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For the most part I just stay on GLP. However I did post this thread on one other forum.
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Five stars from me, guys, can't wait for the book!

Thanks for posting

hf
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Did you hear Phil Krapf on C2C not too long ago? He talked about his "guardian angel" Paul - note the behavioral similarities between Paul (as described by Phil) and Ka'I. That's a clue as to what "Paul" really is... no bs.
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Link for those interested...


Guardian Angel or ET?
[link to www.coasttocoastam.com]

"Phillip Krapf formerly with the L.A. Times news staff, discussed his encounters with Paul, a being who claimed to be his guardian angel. Paul had the ability to materialize at will, and spent many hours conversing and counseling him, he detailed.

Starting in 1997, Krapf said he had contact experiences with an ET race called the Verdants (see the recap from his 2003 appearance for details), and on one occasion saw Paul aboard their ship. This led him to suspect that rather than being a spiritual being, Paul was actually one of the Verdants, physical entities who have the ability to shapeshift and use technology to alter their appearance."
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Can we hear a lot more about this, please? Transversals? Verdants?
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"We are all part of one galactic spectrum of consciousness. Love is the source of all our light. As you open to a greater awareness of the universe in which you live, you will find that the galaxy itself is alive, and you are part of a vast community of souls, exploring life in a multitude of different forms. We are waiting to meet you, and welcome you into the family of which you have always been a part. We are all one Galactic Family.

"This is the message of the Verdants. Because humanity is beginning to cross the threshold into awareness of the Galactic Presence, I expect that as this message spreads, and as more people cross the threshold, similar telepathic transmissions will be received throughout the world. It
would not surprise me if 1000s of people have already received this same transmission telepathically and are working on getting this message out in their own way. Some of us have seen this potential for some time and are pleased that we have reached a moment in history when this potential can actually manifest."

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Yeah, don't know what whoever did it was thinking... obviously not a jag.

No worries about coming off as an asshole. I understand that my comment may have been perceived assholishly (though not intended to be) and you were merely defending your actions with the same bandwidth.

Curious - do you have another nickname with the word "wave" in it?
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None of these guys reporting on Ka.i have a clue of what this entity is. I am here to assure all of you neither N.M. nor the Coward have any direct knowledge or have access to primary sources about this event. They do not have access to the three individuals who have met and continue to meet with the personhood we know as Ka.i. I know because I am one of the three on the RV where the substance of the conversation these guys report on took place, to be specific, in northern Michigan. There is no institute that feeds these guys any information, except through a catchment system set up by a certain salad entity with a feed from a company in the greater Boston area that sets up such systems to capture the email of certain individuals and organizations. The substance of what is reported is neither owned nor generated by these people. And no, this individual is not Paul, the presumed guardian angel claimed by Krapf. The text offered above is an edited version of what the three of us, under the editorship of another person, wrote as summaries of the conversation that took place with Ka.i. A book is being written as a group, again under single editorship, but it won't be available until late this year or early next year. Same thing with the information on life forms and life sites. Sad to see it used like this, but not surprising. Consumer beware!
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xiang zepplin , are you still checking this thread?
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The "Link" book spoken of in this article and the book this info was taken from can now be found here...

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Can we hear a lot more about this, please? Transversals? Verdants?
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None of these guys reporting on Ka.i have a clue of what this entity is. I am here to assure all of you neither N.M. nor the Coward have any direct knowledge or have access to primary sources about this event. They do not have access to the three individuals who have met and continue to meet with the personhood we know as Ka.i. I know because I am one of the three on the RV where the substance of the conversation these guys report on took place, to be specific, in northern Michigan. There is no institute that feeds these guys any information, except through a catchment system set up by a certain salad entity with a feed from a company in the greater Boston area that sets up such systems to capture the email of certain individuals and organizations. The substance of what is reported is neither owned nor generated by these people. And no, this individual is not Paul, the presumed guardian angel claimed by Krapf. The text offered above is an edited version of what the three of us, under the editorship of another person, wrote as summaries of the conversation that took place with Ka.i. A book is being written as a group, again under single editorship, but it won't be available until late this year or early next year. Same thing with the information on life forms and life sites. Sad to see it used like this, but not surprising. Consumer beware!
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What can you share and who are you with?
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I just found this thread. The hyper advanced aliens above sound much like the "hyperversals" I discuss in a book I wrote called Alien Mind. Now, in a second book, I'm simply referring to them as hyper-advanced aliens. I was absolutely wowed upon first, telepathic (and remote sensing) contact with them. They clearly demonstrated capabilities and awareness beyond all other aliens I'd remotely interacted with prior to May 4, 2006, when I first encountered hyper-advanced aliens. I should note that it took years for me to get up to speed to be able to adequately interact---it's now very easy to expand the space of my awareness and be attentive to such. In my next book I note that, to interact remotely over great distances is considered a norm among aliens. They have psychotronic systems that essentially amplify and network more than one alien in order to maintain group communications and interact via/or control their technology by mind.

However, any good, thoughtful human can do such communications without technology. First, fade down your mind's energy, then remember: all of what you do next essentially resonates via scalar energy fluctuations that can resonate across any distance nearly instantly (as numerous researchers report). They can do so because such resonance is merely a fraction of a greater universal whole (i.e. the number one) quantity. So, it's a slightly faded or darkened kind of fractional resonance. When you do this correctly, it feels as though your mind’s awareness does a half-spin and a half-flip so that it converges mind energy and opposing energy waves mirror each other and cancel out. Then you contour your mind’s focus so that it resonates with the distant surface or space that you’re sensing. Although it sounds like a jumble of complex parts, it happens all at once (the contouring aspect is like
any of your fast thoughts). This kind of scalar near-immediacy implies that all atomic quanta merely pose a slightly deeper kind of energy horizon, which can be slightly varied to resonate with other locations. It's as though the depths of atomic quanta (quarks/gluons and such) are actually inter-resonant, universally, as are all black holes, gravity, and condensed energy phenomena.

In early interactions with hyper-advanced aliens (call them transversals, if you choose---I merely used the term hyperversal to suggest that they are still part of the same overall universe--in hyperspace--that we're part of) ... in early interactions, one cautioned me to be wary when any of them asserted that they are disincarnate, without a body, so to speak. However, they clearly begin from a larger, more expanded kind of community mind resonance, and, if they define themselves and their physics in more expanded terms (fractions of the universe), their notion of self would clearly be a social kind of identity, less individual. Yet they must maintain a kind of individual critique or would lapse into the collective error of a given regime, a kind of group-think that can begin to view many others as less real, less valid, in a sense. Crimes committed by such aliens immediately plunge them into a lesser kind of configuration space, a too-singular kind of arrogation. To exceed them (and their error) merely expand the space of your awareness so that it cycles beyond them (you can do the same with any aliens).

In some of the above discussion, a given transversal appears to be trying to wordily, awkwardly say how his cohorts frame (or framed) their perspective on less evolved aliens. He also appears to be trying to rationalize harm done during direct interventions, or interventions they likely steer via at least some younger, yet large mega-populations. My reading of the remarks is that the transversal is trying to explain how some planets were ruined during such interventions and how that was rationalized. He also appears to be trying to say that at least some of his kind are trying to regain certain sensitivities dulled by such history, suggesting that some of their past judgements of other aliens may have been overly weighted by expediency or regime-think. To destroy a planet is to violate a vast, deeply intricate kind of natural evolution, a complex domain of the universe that doesn't reduce to the stupidity of but one elite regime on a planet.

But when such aliens get overly wordy and can't explain their reasoning concisely and clearly, I'd say be on the watch for what could be the extinction of emotional sensitivities among them, an either planned genetic selection (damping of certain associated genes), or a kind of enforcement by their larger council of elders, or government. They can easily rationalize ruin of some planets based on a perceived threat to the energy or (prohibited) weapons ecology. They certainly would also have a way of categorizing certain populations (by planet size, degree of sexual influence over rational thought, body type, social definitions, technological evolution, etc).

But I would add that, given the gray and related alien intervention here (a breeding program, insertion of hybrids into the human lineup, use of such hybrids and corrupt elite figures to sabotage humankind--or compel change) their basis for judgement is muddied and fouled by the material goals and basing/trading/hegemonistic ambitions of the gray-related alignment (reportedly not even from this galaxy). Such issues often arise in my own interactions with hyper-advanced aliens, which have continued since writing Alien Mind. For example, one noted hyper-advanced alien said that his population was once over one quadrillion individuals, in number. In other words, twice the reported size of the aliens journalist Phillip Krapf calls Verdants, who reportedly task grays and lead their intervention here. And if that's true, then the given hyper-advanced alien's population has a mega-population outlook (past colonizations, abductions, interventions, etc.) Some of his population is clearly sexual in nature, albeit a subdued form. They clearly understand human sexuality, and it appears to not be too different from what they once presumably were. Please remember, given the fact that JPL now estimates that there are 2 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way (maybe 50 billion Earth-sized, also), a number of populations in this galaxy likely evolved far before the so-called Verdants (reportedly from a galaxy about 14 million light years away--there are about 150 other galaxies of various sizes that are closer to us). Meaning that we can expect to encounter actual, native alien neighbors who abhor the crudeness and material ambitions of the Verdant-gray aggregate. Which would help to explain their detailed, non-aligned critiques of the Verdant-gray combination that a variety of humans now report.

I'd like to talk with kai or "anonymous coward" about how to compare notes about transversals. There aren't many of us reporting on such aliens. We need to share data. For example, the hyper-advanced aliens I'm in contact with said they either communicate or interact (in detail) on a scale of some 257 million light years (they may be at least minimally aware of interactions beyond that range). Contact me at globuo01@hotmail.com --George LoBuono