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**USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed**
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Anonymous Coward
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7/6/2008 12:38 AM
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I just checked USGS EQ site and a Lrg box appeared with Red X (undetermined
mag) on main page linked below. No more tan a min later I brought it up
again to see if they got mag yet...and it was Removed from this page.
I went to CA pg to check it out again (it was below Redding in the Corning area)
copied the info this time...all of this time they had Depth but NO mag?
They're gunna 'tweek' it again! Downplay in process! So what's new!?
***Just checked Again and they STILL don't have it!!**&
[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
MAG UTC DATE-TIMEy/m/d h:m:s LATdeg LONdeg DEPTHkm LOCATION
MAP ? 2008/07/06 03:57:41 39.746 -122.088 27.7 6 km ( 4 mi) W of Hamilton City, CA
MAP 1.5 2008/07/06 01:05:39 39.585 -122.015 1.1 17 km ( 11 mi) ENE of Willows, CA
MAP 1.7 2008/07/04 03:21:29 39.307 -122.858 7.5 14 km ( 9 mi) SE of Lake Pillsbury, CA
MAP 1.6 2008/07/03 13:57:58 40.641 -121.806 4.6 17 km ( 10 mi) NNE of Shingletown, CA
MAP 2.2 2008/07/03 09:41:55 40.441 -122.061 12.8 17 km ( 10 mi) SE of Millville |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 12:41 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
I'm really glad to see others are seeing the same thing. The more people start watching the site, the more they will realize either there are "SPACETIME" changes or someone is playing with the website.
I'm starting to believe that nothing is as sane as you think. |
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Kanigo2
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7/6/2008 12:47 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
Alt+ Print Screen next time. and everytime you check.
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DrPostman  
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7/6/2008 12:52 AM
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Those are really small quakes. So small that no one even
feels them. And sometimes they are false reports so they
get removed.
You guys do know, don't you, that if you count the quakes
in that range there is an average of over 1 MILLION per
year on this planet, right?
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Queen
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7/6/2008 1:04 AM
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I've been watching earthquakes for more than 7 years, daily. I've seen them around 250 a day go up to 1600 a day just 4+ weeks ago (obviously 4+ weeks appear to be more like 9+ weeks ). I watched them during the tsunami in 2004 and saw the earth rattle before the tsunami was announced.
It really is an interesting site for not other reason than you see hidden things coming to light.
I want others to see the changes, not for any reason than something is happening and you can only see the symptoms.
Earthquakes down to 718
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Queen
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 1:14 AM
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From this post
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Sequestered
User ID: 296954
5/7/2008 11:23 PM
Nothing had happened to create these numbers, notice the china quakes hit 5/12/2008. This didn't happen with the tsunami quake, the numbers didn't increase until after the quake.
I like science and love to hear "all the know it all's" tell you their assumptions. All I can say is that "I don't know" is a valid answer. At this time it's also the most intelligent since some just don't have the answer.
Although those in the know, we'd love to hear what you know, not what you think is happening.
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Queen
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 1:49 AM
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Down to 710, just wanting to see it go below 700.
Still shadows of seismic activity, but it is quite.
[link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 272605
7/6/2008 2:08 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
Those are really small quakes. So small that no one even
feels them. And sometimes they are false reports so they
get removed.
You guys do know, don't you, that if you count the quakes
in that range there is an average of over 1 MILLION per
year on this planet, right? Quoting: DrPostman
^Oh give it up you jerk!^
To all others...YES!! You Know what its all about
and THANKS for the feedback.
I have watched while 100 eq's at a time were dropped
and have had some serious discussions with USGS re
this since 2003. BTW that eq I was alluding to in CA
has been entirely dropped. 17mi depth. It must have
been a lulu as an itsy-bitsy teeny one would not have
been worth the facade-Right! They would have just
marked it and left it in-Right! Or shrunk it to
death so not to catch the eye and get the ol brain
working. "Nothing to see here folks" kind of thing...
that epitomizes the old 'postman' eh?
Go away postman. You post alright. Same bs everytime.
How in the world can you stand yourself. |
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Queen
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 2:29 AM
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My girls were learning about techtonic plates in public school (before I pulled them out to homeschool) and the teacher was so boring. I pulled up USGS.gov and tried to get them excited about their study using existing data. We plotted earthquakes for a few weeks until the school lesson was over, they dropped it but I've stayed with it since. They graduated and I'm still attached to earthquakes, it really is funny as all their friends have come to know me as the Earthquake mom. (I can guarantee, don't make me mad)
Anyway, the usgs site is the best I've got, but match that with the seismic site and you can at least see if anything of major interest is happening.
[link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]
This seismic site is out of the norm and I just find it odd.
[link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]
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* <-----Kingdom of Heaven
User ID: 418811
7/6/2008 2:33 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
My girls were learning about techtonic plates in public school (before I pulled them out to homeschool) and the teacher was so boring. I pulled up USGS.gov and tried to get them excited about their study using existing data. We plotted earthquakes for a few weeks until the school lesson was over, they dropped it but I've stayed with it since. They graduated and I'm still attached to earthquakes, it really is funny as all their friends have come to know me as the Earthquake mom. (I can guarantee, don't make me mad)
Anyway, the usgs site is the best I've got, but match that with the seismic site and you can at least see if anything of major interest is happening.
[ link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]
This seismic site is out of the norm and I just find it odd.
[ link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]
Have you ever seen this site Queen ? It is a really good site : )
[link to www.emsc-csem.org] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 2:55 AM | |
Queen
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 2:56 AM
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Dang I keep getting logged out...
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* <-----Kingdom of Heaven
User ID: 418811
7/6/2008 3:00 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
I want to know what those rules were the white house gave to the usgs and other scientific bodies. It would be really interesting to see what those rules were. I believe someone posted them here at GLP one time ? At least the ones we were told about. |
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* <-----Kingdom of Heaven
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7/6/2008 3:27 AM | |
Queen
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 3:52 AM
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Thanks, I've never seen that. I really like the search function, I just wish you look up topic and an ID at the same time.
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Queen
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 4:13 AM
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Down to 710, just wanting to see it go below 700.
Still shadows of seismic activity, but it is quite.
[ link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]
down to 706 and the seismic activity is calming down. Goodnight
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
7/6/2008 6:09 AM
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^Oh give it up you jerk!^
To all others...YES!! You Know what its all about
and THANKS for the feedback.
I have watched while 100 eq's at a time were dropped
and have had some serious discussions with USGS re
this since 2003. BTW that eq I was alluding to in CA
has been entirely dropped. 17mi depth. It must have
been a lulu as an itsy-bitsy teeny one would not have
been worth the facade-Right! They would have just
marked it and left it in-Right! Or shrunk it to
death so not to catch the eye and get the ol brain
working. "Nothing to see here folks" kind of thing...
that epitomizes the old 'postman' eh?
Go away postman. You post alright. Same bs everytime.
How in the world can you stand yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272605
Please point out how I am wrong in what I posted.
I'm not going anywhere, and I won't be bullied away
by creeps like you.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 463766
7/6/2008 6:21 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
we don't want you to be bullied away doc.
instead, use that intellect you've got there to suss out wtf they are up to, instead of standing up for their deceptions all the time.
there are far too many occurrences like this. the other day there were two 4+ mags not far from Toba that neither the Iris or USGS sites were showing, but lesser sites were.
the gov are not the benevolent, truth telling organization you and several others make them out to be. I know you know that because I've seen you criticize GWB on here before.
Is it such a stretch to believe they lie about this as well? |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
7/6/2008 6:31 AM
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we don't want you to be bullied away doc.
instead, use that intellect you've got there to suss out wtf they are up to, instead of standing up for their deceptions all the time.
there are far too many occurrences like this. the other day there were two 4+ mags not far from Toba that neither the Iris or USGS sites were showing, but lesser sites were.
the gov are not the benevolent, truth telling organization you and several others make them out to be. I know you know that because I've seen you criticize GWB on here before.
Is it such a stretch to believe they lie about this as well? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 463766
Yes it is, because I know geologists, and I know a few who
work for the USGS. They make a LOT less money doing what
they do than they could in the oil and gas industry because
they are doing what they love. How can you think that people
like that are complicit in a vast conspiracy? I bet you don't
even know any of them. You are making assumptions based on
paltry information. You give cursory glaces at charts and
think you are an expert. Compared to these people who have
spent at least 4 years in study and who knows how much doing
their job you come along and cast dispersions on them for
no damned reason than it placates your paranoia.
I think that sucks for you to judge these people like that.
Tell ya what, if you can tell me the difference between
Ms and Mb on a quake report I will begin to have at least
a little bit more respect for your opinion. Otherwise you
don't have a clue.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 463766
7/6/2008 6:32 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
nah, not having that sorry. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 458129
7/6/2008 6:43 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
USGS has FAR more info available to them than what YOU see on their site, AND they have MUCH more experience than you OR anyone else here has.
If they change something, it' because the initial estimate, made by a computer, is wrong.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422489
7/6/2008 11:16 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
Earthquakes down to 690, haven't seen that in a while.
How low will it go.
No major movements,
[link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]
of course it looks like indiana has unusual movement in the last few hours
[link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 463872
7/6/2008 11:43 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
Hey DrPostman,
I don't have a clue and I'm not too proud to admit it. I've been watching the EMSC site for sometime now and always wondered what those abbreviations stood for. (ML, MD, mb, Mw, etc.)
Also, they give the depth in kilometers, but occasionally I'll see a depth listed as something like '10f'. What is that?
Could you please explain to a novice EQ watcher?
Thanks! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 463766
7/6/2008 11:45 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
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anonymous coward
User ID: 463880
7/6/2008 12:04 PM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
First time post for me - lurking for years! Check out the depth of the China EQs and also the "odd ball" quakes that are not along major plates - all are 6.2 miles deep. I have been charting them for months. I have been watching when the radar is down near the haarp grids and believe they are using Tesla's resonance to produce the quakes. Recent ones close to the grid (won't say where this grid is) are 3.1 miles deep - 1/2 what the quakes far away from it are. This is my only post - call it Fear! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 463894
7/6/2008 12:22 PM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
i dont even have half a clue........ but i like the pretty pictures...... lol anyway have ya'll seen this site.......
[link to satellite.ehabich.info]
i've been watching this site for a few years and i would love to know what that bright blue area is off the coast of florida??.... it keeps growing...... anyone got any clues on that.....
she who watches' computer to much............. |
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Kanigo2
User ID: 442313
7/6/2008 12:29 PM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
Ms vs. Mb
exhibiting low surface wave magnitudes relative to body wave magnitudes
Examples of ms would be surface explosions.
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Geogal
User ID: 373387
7/6/2008 1:09 PM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
Ms vs. Mb
exhibiting low surface wave magnitudes relative to body wave magnitudes
Examples of ms would be surface explosions. Quoting: Kanigo2
Also, the calcs for EACH type of event (ML, Ms, Mb, Mw, ect...) are different. You get a slightly different answer for each. Part of the reason for a single event there's multiple different reported magnitudes.
ML= magnitude local, is the original calc that Richter came up with. It has limits, and is often used improperly. Max mag is like 6, if memory serves correct. I'm not feeling like looking it's exact parameters up right now. It also has depth limits.
Mw= magnitude moment, is what USGS uses most for a number of years now. It also has it's limits, like something more likely to be felt in the mid 3 range is the lowest it can be trusted. I don't believe it has depth limits.
link for more info if you want to look it up.
[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
as to the depth questions/concerns. 6.2 miles=10km approx... 10km is a default depth for multiple situations when the depth was not well determined. This happens really often in mid-ocean earthquakes, and sometime in mid-continent, especially in areas that US wasn't welcome in the 80's and 90's (China, Russia aka USSR pre 80's, etc....) Shallow earthquake is determined as less than 33km or about 20.3 miles. The most dangerous are the ones in the upper 10km, which included the China Mw7.9.
hope that helps. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422489
7/7/2008 1:22 AM | | Re: **USGS 'tweeking' EQ mags again (STILL)...Removed** | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422489
Earthquakes down to 656 still lowering.
How low will it go. |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
7/7/2008 5:57 AM
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Hey DrPostman,
I don't have a clue and I'm not too proud to admit it. I've been watching the EMSC site for sometime now and always wondered what those abbreviations stood for. (ML, MD, mb, Mw, etc.)
Also, they give the depth in kilometers, but occasionally I'll see a depth listed as something like '10f'. What is that?
Could you please explain to a novice EQ watcher?
Thanks! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 463872
I learned a LOT from this post on TT-Watch several years
ago:
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7/7/2008 9:22 AM | |
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