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TX PATRIOT (OP) User ID: 440969 United States 07/06/2008 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those interested, more about Operation Ajax, which was the 1953 CIA and British Secret Intelligence Service coup d’etat against Iran’s democratically elected government, can be found in this thread with additional links. Thread: OPERATION AJAX – When history repeats, do we notice? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 460467 United States 07/06/2008 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually remember seeing a lot of this on television. Unfortunately people love self supporting truths rather than documented truths. Nature of the beast if you will. I also remember documents at the time of the attempted rescue, the failure pointing to Reagan and Co. having deliberately sabotaged the rescue effort in an attempt make sure carter didn't get elected again. The more you read about these folks and the interlocking relationships the more concerned you become. Worse yet a person might even begin to despair. You realize the people's apathy and lack of concern and the desire to serve self. Many who might even know would gladly serve their will (as enforcers of unjust laws and acts) so that they wouldn't be found in company with us, the folks on the receiving end. Lol, Iran, Venezuela, and all the other folks not willing to sell their souls out... You will be made an example to all others contemplating the exercise of free thought and will. Misc. stuff below. @@@@@@@@@@@ George H.W. Bush served as Gerald Ford’s Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) from November 1975 to January 1977. As head the CIA, Bush was answerable only to President Ford. He was supposedly the first CIA “outsider” to hold the agency's top position. During his tenure as DCI he maintained a policy of disinformation and secrecy, despite a public show of cooperation with congressional investigations of CIA abuses such as assassination plots using Mafia hit men. In September 1976, Chilean dissident leader Orlando Letelier was assassinated in Washington D.C. by agents of DINA, Chile’s secret police. The CIA knew of such plots, and the two assassins entered the U.S. using fake Paraguayan passports. But the FBI was kept in the dark about this information. |
TX PATRIOT (OP) User ID: 440969 United States 07/06/2008 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually remember seeing a lot of this on television. Unfortunately people love self supporting truths rather than documented truths. Nature of the beast if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 460467Yes, AC, I have recently noticed that Westerners, especially Americans, have a great tendency to start Iranian-American history at the point of the "Hostage Crisis" while screaming victim and demonizing Iran....to the point, in their minds, of justifying WWWIII. As the writer of the Operation Ajax piece expressed, if we had another country invading us and overthrowing our government against the people's will merely to serve the invader's purposes, what would be our response? It's sad that either people do not understand history, or worse, they decide to ignore simply to support an agenda or a tightly held belief - religious, national pride, other. Our educational system is partly to blame. Apathy, arrogance and breaking through a lifetime of additional brainwashing psy ops are other culprits. Lol, Iran, Venezuela, and all the other folks not willing to sell their souls out... You will be made an example to all others contemplating the exercise of free thought and will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 460467Yes, I keep waiting for the takeover of Costa Rico - lol - but surely they are far down the list. Thanks for sharing the Chilean tidbit. TXP |
Aaron User ID: 420547 United States 07/06/2008 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robert Newman's History of Oil [part 1 of 9] [link to www.youtube.com] Laugh and learn! The brilliant Robert Newman comes to grips with the wars and politics of the last hundred years - but rather than adhering to the history we were fed at school, places oil at the center stage of all the cause of all commotion. "God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization "I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep" |
anonomous User ID: 464001 United States 07/06/2008 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks op for research..it seems American And Europe Assets are continoulsy stripped by the Opec Nations about every 20 yrs..which throws our Nations into Major Reccessions....Opec Nations convienently manufactor new crises to achieve a tranfers of the worlds wealth into greedy OPEC CARTELS hands on a now predictable time line..However the Opec Cartels purahases of Key strategic Assets In All Nation tell THE BIGGER PICTURE..I Firmly see a THEFT AND CONTROL of our own Strategic Assets ............AND IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIER SHAKEDOWN ON OIL,' THEN YOU BETTER JUST KNOW WHERE ELSE THESE THIEVES ARE GOING...ALLL NATIONS MUST BEGIN TO PRIVATIZE OPEC HOLDINGS IN ALL NATIONS. TO WEATHER FINANCIAL STORMS THAT ARE BREWING... IF OPEC LOSES THIER STOLEN WEALTH, THEN THE INCENTIVES TO START NEW DRAMAS AGAINST GLOBAL NATIONS, JUST TO HIKE OIL PRICES AGAIN AND AGAIN WILL STOP.....................LEADERS OF THE WORLD MUST WAKE UP.BEFORE OPEC HAS THE WHLE WORLD IN SOUP LINES ................................CAN ANY ONE FIND OTHER INFO CONCERNING OPEC CARTELS WHO PRIVATIZED UNITED STATES AND EUROPE OIL HOLDING IN THE MIDDLEAST BESIDES IRAN BASTARDS. |
TX PATRIOT (OP) User ID: 440969 United States 07/06/2008 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Opec Nations convienently manufactor new crises to achieve a tranfers of the worlds wealth into greedy OPEC CARTELS hands Quoting: anonomous 464001AC, I have suggested this to you on several occasions: please open your mind to more info and a bit more education. What is hitting us is much, much greater than OPEC. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 464263 United Kingdom 07/07/2008 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The biggest catastrophe ever to befall Iran was 'the Islamic revolution' Ayatollah Khomeini: Ten Quotes by the Father of the Islamic Republic of Iran “An Islamic regime must be serious in every field,” “There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam.” “Yes, we are reactionaries, and you are enlightened intellectuals: You intellectuals do not want us to go back 1400 years. You, who want freedom, freedom for everything, the freedom of parties, you who want all the freedoms, you intellectuals: freedom that will corrupt our youth, freedom that will pave the way for the oppressor, freedom that will drag our nation to the bottom.” “A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.” “America is the great Satan, the wounded snake.” “If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.” “This regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.” “If one permits an infidel to continue in his role as a corrupter of the earth, his moral suffering will be all the worse. If one kills the infidel, and this stops him from perpetrating his misdeeds, his death will be a blessing to him.” “A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.” “We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.” “The author of the Satanic Verses book, which is against Islam, the Prophet and the Koran, and all those involved in its publication who were aware of its content, are sentenced to death. I ask all Moslems to execute them wherever they find them.” –Ayatollah Ruhollah Musawi Khomeini Ten quotes by the mentor of present Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad–the man that some Americans want to trust with the safety of America and Israel. |
FAR User ID: 412806 United Kingdom 07/07/2008 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The biggest catastrophe ever to befall Iran was 'the Islamic revolution' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464263Ayatollah Khomeini: Ten Quotes by the Father of the Islamic Republic of Iran “An Islamic regime must be serious in every field,” “There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam.” “Yes, we are reactionaries, and you are enlightened intellectuals: You intellectuals do not want us to go back 1400 years. You, who want freedom, freedom for everything, the freedom of parties, you who want all the freedoms, you intellectuals: freedom that will corrupt our youth, freedom that will pave the way for the oppressor, freedom that will drag our nation to the bottom.” “A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.” “America is the great Satan, the wounded snake.” “If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.” “This regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.” “If one permits an infidel to continue in his role as a corrupter of the earth, his moral suffering will be all the worse. If one kills the infidel, and this stops him from perpetrating his misdeeds, his death will be a blessing to him.” “A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.” “We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.” “The author of the Satanic Verses book, which is against Islam, the Prophet and the Koran, and all those involved in its publication who were aware of its content, are sentenced to death. I ask all Moslems to execute them wherever they find them.” –Ayatollah Ruhollah Musawi Khomeini Ten quotes by the mentor of present Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad–the man that some Americans want to trust with the safety of America and Israel. Shiaism is forbidden according to the quran: 30:32 (transliteration) Mina allatheena farraqoo deenahum wakanoo shiyaAAan kullu hizbin bima ladayhim farihoona. Translation [or] among those who have broken the unity of their faith and have become sects, each group delighting in but what they themselves hold [by way of tenets]. ShiyaAAan = "sects". Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know! Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return. Quran 96:3-8 [link to www.islamicity.com] __________ "Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy". __________ How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com] Cure: [link to www.youtube.com] __________ Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com] __________ Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com] __________ [link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 464263 United Kingdom 07/07/2008 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of course they are after the oil. the exploiting of countries is a sad and old story. the exploiters are like locusts, they ravage a country and then leave it to be a 3rd world. Quoting: dalakSo ... how did invading Iraq give us any 'oil benefits'? - it is still sold on the world markets at world prices - perhaps you just can't think properly except in silly sound bite slogans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 464264 Canada 07/07/2008 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The biggest catastrophe ever to befall Iran was 'the Islamic revolution' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464263Ayatollah Khomeini: Ten Quotes by the Father of the Islamic Republic of Iran “An Islamic regime must be serious in every field,” “There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam.” “Yes, we are reactionaries, and you are enlightened intellectuals: You intellectuals do not want us to go back 1400 years. You, who want freedom, freedom for everything, the freedom of parties, you who want all the freedoms, you intellectuals: freedom that will corrupt our youth, freedom that will pave the way for the oppressor, freedom that will drag our nation to the bottom.” “A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.” “America is the great Satan, the wounded snake.” “If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.” “This regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.” “If one permits an infidel to continue in his role as a corrupter of the earth, his moral suffering will be all the worse. If one kills the infidel, and this stops him from perpetrating his misdeeds, his death will be a blessing to him.” “A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.” “We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.” “The author of the Satanic Verses book, which is against Islam, the Prophet and the Koran, and all those involved in its publication who were aware of its content, are sentenced to death. I ask all Moslems to execute them wherever they find them.” –Ayatollah Ruhollah Musawi Khomeini Ten quotes by the mentor of present Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad–the man that some Americans want to trust with the safety of America and Israel. If the Junited States never overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953, there never would have been any ayatollah. |
TX PATRIOT (OP) User ID: 440969 United States 07/17/2008 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of course they are after the oil. the exploiting of countries is a sad and old story. the exploiters are like locusts, they ravage a country and then leave it to be a 3rd world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464263So ... how did invading Iraq give us any 'oil benefits'? - it is still sold on the world markets at world prices - perhaps you just can't think properly except in silly sound bite slogans. AC, it is you how might benefit from a greater education. This is quite a good place to start: [link to www.sandersresearch.com] . |
TX PATRIOT (OP) User ID: 440969 United States 07/17/2008 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: DrPostman You are correct, Dr. P. I noticed after I posted and haven't taken the time to add an additional para/bullet. Thanks. . |
TX PATRIOT (OP) User ID: 440969 United States 07/17/2008 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of course they are after the oil. the exploiting of countries is a sad and old story. the exploiters are like locusts, they ravage a country and then leave it to be a 3rd world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464263So ... how did invading Iraq give us any 'oil benefits'? - it is still sold on the world markets at world prices - perhaps you just can't think properly except in silly sound bite slogans. By the by, AC, did you even read the original post? After you do, please come back to us with your question. . |
ano User ID: 469359 United States 07/17/2008 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | should nations begin to sieze nationalize opec cartel assets in nations SO AS to wheather economic downturns caused by opec cartels planed terror strategy to transfer worlds wealth into islam hands from oil crises price rises from planned terror tensions..OH I CERTAINLY THANK SO.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 464984 United States 07/17/2008 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of course they are after the oil. the exploiting of countries is a sad and old story. the exploiters are like locusts, they ravage a country and then leave it to be a 3rd world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464263So ... how did invading Iraq give us any 'oil benefits'? - it is still sold on the world markets at world prices - perhaps you just can't think properly except in silly sound bite slogans. It didn't give it to you, it gave it to western controlled corporations who are currently gouging the fuck out of you at the pump. So you see my mentally challenged friend, you pay for the war twice, once with your taxes, and again at the gas pump, all the while thanking your rapist for keeping you "safe" from an enemy that they manufactured in your mind in the first place. |
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TX PATRIOT (OP) User ID: 440969 United States 08/15/2008 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for taking the time to compile this list TX PATRIOT. This is all very enlightening! Quoting: argilla11No prob, Argilla11, it is quite important history to understand considering TPTB are determined to repeat history. This also serves as a for a few here tonight who are apparently lacking this info. with regards to how the US "supports democracy". . |
TX PATRIOT User ID: 506675 United States 10/27/2008 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anyone interested in the OP's info. Quoting: AaronRobert Newman's History of Oil [part 1 of 9] [link to www.youtube.com] Laugh and learn! The brilliant Robert Newman comes to grips with the wars and politics of the last hundred years - but rather than adhering to the history we were fed at school, places oil at the center stage of all the cause of all commotion. Aaron, I just returned to this older thread to grab a link, and I ended up re-reading all the posts. I don't know how I originally overlooked your post above, but I just watched the vid tonight. That is a great piece! Many thanks for contributing it. I don't agree with the Peak Oil theory; however, I do agree with needing alternatives. Outside that, Newman lays it on the line with the history. I highly recommend Aaron's vid to everyone. Take the time to watch; you won't be disappointed, and ya just might learn a few things. A, Newman goes on my share list. . |
TX PATRIOT User ID: 506675 United States 10/27/2008 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh...forgot to add the Goggle vid link where the film is in one part: History of Oil [link to video.google.com] |
floydian slip User ID: 1338 United States 10/27/2008 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey TX PATRIOT I have been looking for the source of this quote by GHWBush "If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts." Thread: "If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts." Do you know where it cmae from? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 507586 United States 10/27/2008 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well not to justify the US Britain actions in regards to Iran. Their actions were inexcusable. The main source of the problem was with BP or Anglo American at that time. Although hey did do the exploration and built the facilities they screwed Iran and Iranian workers out of pure greed. They were giving like 16% of the net profits. Iran tried to renegotiate and BP would not budge. The blame always seem to squarely land on the US but the brits were more at fault here even though America does not get a pass IMO. Mossadeq was kind of stuck and started buddying up to Russia and thats what brought the US to the table. The cold war was raging and the US did not want Russia to gain a stronghold in what was a pro western gov.He not only nationalized oil he also turned all the domestic farmlands into cooperative farms owned by the goverment. He also was leaning towards the Tudeh party and support of communism. He publicly declared Britain an enemy and cut off all diplomatic ties. Again Im not trying to defend the US position in this but look at the actions and reactions. The Brits have quite a bit more culpability in this than US. After WW2 though the brits and US have been inseperable. Here take a look at this article in regards to Iran during WWII. "At the outbreak of World War II, Iran declared its neutrality, but the country was soon invaded by both Britain and the Soviet Union. Britain had been annoyed when Iran refused Allied demands that it expel all German nationals from the country. When Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941, the Allies urgently needed to transport war matériel across Iran to the Soviet Union, an operation that would have violated Iranian neutrality. As a result, Britain and the Soviet Union simultaneously invaded Iran on August 26, 1941, the Soviets from the northwest and the British across the Iraqi frontier from the west and at the head of the Persian Gulf in the south. Resistance quickly collapsed. Reza Shah knew the Allies would not permit him to remain in power, so he abdicated on September 16 in favor of his son, who ascended the throne as Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. Reza Shah and several members of his family were taken by the British first to Mauritius and then to Johannesburg, South Africa, where Reza Shah died in July 1944. |
Maximus Interruptus User ID: 536684 Brazil 10/27/2008 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why can't we be like China.. Business is business. Shit related to the Old Testicle is ignored by China. And they prosper. They don't have Threat level "orange" or whatever. Their airports announce flight information, not "threat levels" <again> Separation of church and state in the USA. BULLSHIT. Lets do business like China does business. silence is golden.... |
TX PATRIOT User ID: 506675 United States 10/28/2008 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey TX PATRIOT Quoting: floydian slipI have been looking for the source of this quote by GHWBush "If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts." Thread: "If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts." Do you know where it cmae from? Floydian, I believe this is the correct quote that has become morphed; however, I haven't conducted due diligence to confirm it. HTH "...if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - George HW Bush in an interview with Sarah McClendon, December 1992 . |
TX PATRIOT User ID: 506675 United States 10/28/2008 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again Im not trying to defend the US position in this but look at the actions and reactions. The Brits have quite a bit more culpability in this than US. After WW2 though the brits and US have been inseperable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507586Absolutely. IMO, the US is and has been the military arm of England. Here take a look at this article in regards to Iran during WWII. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507586"At the outbreak of World War II, Iran declared its neutrality, but the country was soon invaded by both Britain and the Soviet Union. Britain had been annoyed when Iran refused Allied demands that it expel all German nationals from the country. When Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941, the Allies urgently needed to transport war matériel across Iran to the Soviet Union, an operation that would have violated Iranian neutrality. As a result, Britain and the Soviet Union simultaneously invaded Iran on August 26, 1941, the Soviets from the northwest and the British across the Iraqi frontier from the west and at the head of the Persian Gulf in the south. Resistance quickly collapsed. Reza Shah knew the Allies would not permit him to remain in power, so he abdicated on September 16 in favor of his son, who ascended the throne as Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. Reza Shah and several members of his family were taken by the British first to Mauritius and then to Johannesburg, South Africa, where Reza Shah died in July 1944. If you have the time and a haven't seen it already, watch the vid (provided by Aaron), The History of Oil. I believe you will appreciate his teachings of Iraq, Iran, the US and England. Here is another informative essay (credit goes to Redheaded Stepchild) that might be of interest to someone who wants to connect the dots. Pay close attention to the players and the pipelines: Oil and Israel [link to www.sandersresearch.com] . |
aaron_o.o User ID: 513816 United States 10/28/2008 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anyone interested in the OP's info. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 506675Robert Newman's History of Oil [part 1 of 9] [link to www.youtube.com] Laugh and learn! The brilliant Robert Newman comes to grips with the wars and politics of the last hundred years - but rather than adhering to the history we were fed at school, places oil at the center stage of all the cause of all commotion. Aaron, I just returned to this older thread to grab a link, and I ended up re-reading all the posts. I don't know how I originally overlooked your post above, but I just watched the vid tonight. That is a great piece! Many thanks for contributing it. I don't agree with the Peak Oil theory; however, I do agree with needing alternatives. Outside that, Newman lays it on the line with the history. I highly recommend Aaron's vid to everyone. Take the time to watch; you won't be disappointed, and ya just might learn a few things. A, Newman goes on my share list. . YUP. the only form of peak oil that will exist is psychological propaganda, fear..a and piece of crap economy. and i think that is what is being sold. ever since the price of oil went up, more people have been buying into this peak oil nonsense, and Lindsey Williams spells it out for everyone.. it is BS(peak oil) "God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization "I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep" |
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Jeff User ID: 552534 United States 12/04/2008 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always thought war was for power and control. I'm just putting myself in the shoes of the illumaniti. What I would do, is make another country subservient to my desires, wishes and needs. In order to accomplish this the country needs be be "taken over", provided the motive is already in place, whether it be oil or gold or human beings. The target country will thus be "taken over" by either conquest or consent. From my point of view, consent is accomplished with the promise of the illusion we call freedom, and by warping people's own logical brains around themselves, in a destructive "time loop", and conquest is accomplished with the use of hot steel and lead. The "time loop" seems to me to be the most effective means. Using our own fear against us, in a never ending cycle of non-sense, termed "the preservance of freedom". The War on Terrorism... Operation Iraqi Freedom... Let's make everybody think we're "freeing" them. That's soooo far from the truth, I just want to puke. That's just my two cents. If you don't control your mind, someone else will. ~John Allston |
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