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A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)

 
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
Please please people don't believe everything you read in a "BOOK". This book is sooooo very skewed, misinterpreted, glorified, magnified historical stories of centuries old people. There are many more "books" that religious priests did not put in the bible because it would show MORE than what they wanted you to know. Please please, read about how the stories in the bible were written, where they came from, who really wrote them......
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Hi Canundrum, I agree with you that the bible is a mix of good and bad information and it's up to the reader to discern between one or another.


The dead sea scrolls portray Jesus as a man - JUST A MAN, that had different ideas than the common man, and further that he was a rebel of sorts pissing off the gov. There have been a myriad of humans that can see into the future, but not completely; and then interpreted the best way they can ~ and then reinterpreted ..... There is so much more people - never stop questioning, never believe in any ONE thing!!
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As I said in a previous post I have no special sensibility or channeling capability that may "reveal" me who Jesus was (is) but I have some "feelings" about some people when I stop and really try to understand them, and Jesus is one of these people.
I think about God *a lot* and the message of the gospel and what it says about the life of Jesus strongly resonates with my feelings.
For example, the episode of Jesus' birth with the angels appearing to the shepherds and all that spiritual interaction with the mother and the father of Jesus, is quite "divine" IMO and it "resonates" as very true to me, etc., the same happens in other parts of that book which has become perhaps the greatest source of inspiration in my life, not only because of the words but for the feelings of goodness that they bring.

As for *the future*, I cannot see it but I'm curious about it, and I would like to hear what it means for those that affirm that they can *see* it. I don't know if the idea that "God knows the future" is totally acceptable IMO, because I think that to some extent we have the ability of doing things that go against God's will and of a completely chaotic nature, and therefore they should be unpredictable by their very nature...

I mean the future could be predicted only inasmuch as it is God-like (no pun intended!), i.e. in accordance with God's will, but not when it's a product of chaos (man's "free will").

For example, the prophecies of FC seem to have these characteristics as he is not specifying dates but only giving a general feeling of what his revelation has shown to him. He would be revealing only the God-like part of the near future but not its chaotic, statistically oscillating details, which could not be predicted.
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
As I said in a previous post I have no special sensibility or channeling capability that may "reveal" me who Jesus was (is) but I have some "feelings" about some people when I stop and really try to understand them, and Jesus is one of these people.
I think about God *a lot* and the message of the gospel and what it says about the life of Jesus strongly resonates with my feelings.
For example, the episode of Jesus' birth with the angels appearing to the shepherds and all that spiritual interaction with the mother and the father of Jesus, is quite "divine" IMO and it "resonates" as very true to me, etc., the same happens in other parts of that book which has become perhaps the greatest source of inspiration in my life, not only because of the words but for the feelings of goodness that they bring.

As for *the future*, I cannot see it but I'm curious about it, and I would like to hear what it means for those that affirm that they can *see* it. I don't know if the idea that "God knows the future" is totally acceptable IMO, because I think that to some extent we have the ability of doing things that go against God's will and of a completely chaotic nature, and therefore they should be unpredictable by their very nature...

I mean the future could be predicted only inasmuch as it is God-like (no pun intended!), i.e. in accordance with God's will, but not when it's a product of chaos (man's "free will").

For example, the prophecies of FC seem to have these characteristics as he is not specifying dates but only giving a general feeling of what his revelation has shown to him. He would be revealing only the God-like part of the near future but not its chaotic, statistically oscillating details, which could not be predicted.
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I like the way you are thinking - this is good to analyze. However, We are already "God-Like", in "His" image. It is already within us - we need to be self aware - and continue our journey to ever increasing awareness. The Bible is a "moral of the story" type of book. It is mixed with historical facts and religious inuendo along with prophetic visions. To take it as verbatim has created the chaos we have today, ignorance, greed, war, hatred, judgement, slavery, death.... etc. Jesus was a man, a simple man with different ideas than the current populace, causing change in the current obedience structure. He was not God's son, there is no such thing. We are all God's children, part of God, sharing with God, learning with God. We will not learn, if we keep waiting for "someTHING" to save us, to help us, to teach us. It is WITHIN us already, we must wake up - period.

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I like the way you are thinking - this is good to analyze. However, We are already "God-Like", in "His" image. It is already within us - we need to be self aware - and continue our journey to ever increasing awareness.
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I partially agree with you that "in essence" we're God-like, but this essence must be realized as you say with "increasing awareness", which probably means some kind of unification with the Creation in the end.
But there is part of us that is quite "chaotic" and therefore cannot be identified with the divine part. I don't know why this duality exists but it seems clear that it does and I don't think that good and evil are part of the Creation. I believe God is Goodness, Love, etc., and the evil part does not belong to the Creation of God, it's our *exclusive* contribution.


The Bible is a "moral of the story" type of book. It is mixed with historical facts and religious inuendo along with prophetic visions. To take it as verbatim has created the chaos we have today, ignorance, greed, war, hatred, judgement, slavery, death.... etc.
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I totally agree and the part that interest me most is the prophetic one, including Jesus' life itself which is an almost continuous sequence of prophetic/channeling events IMO due to his spiritual condition.

Jesus was a man, a simple man with different ideas than the current populace, causing change in the current obedience structure. He was not God's son, there is no such thing. We are all God's children, part of God, sharing with God, learning with God. We will not learn, if we keep waiting for "someTHING" to save us, to help us, to teach us. It is WITHIN us already, we must wake up - period.
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My feelings tell me that Jesus was (is) more than we humans are, in the sense that he has *evolved* to a level beyond that which we encounter ourselves now. I believe that he is not a special creature of God but he has evolved spiritually to a level far beyond our present evolution. Then, to say that he was a "revolutionary man" is a great understatement IMO.
And, of course, Jesus never said that he is the savior of anybody but that we would know the truth a be set free, and that the truth is to love God and each other without limits. Therefore, he told us to MOVE OURSELVES in the direction of God, which I believe can be realized as some kind of "spiritual wake up" as you say.

But again, the gospel indicates that Jesus knew what was going to happen soon after every step beforehand... My question is: to what level is this possible even for a very spiritualized creature as I think Jesus was?
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
If this prophecy is about the separation of the sheep and goats then it is wrong.

Why? Because Jesus in two places in scripture told us when the sheep and the goats would be separated.

Matthew 13:25 and onwards is the first source. The tares are separated at the second coming (the harvest when he sends his angels out as harvesters to gather the elect). and not before.

Matthew 25:31 - 2 speaks specifically of sheep and goats. He will separate them when he comes in his glory, at the scond coming.

And not before.

THis prophecy can be rejected outright without need of dreams and revelations. It is unbiblical, ignoring the Lords stated timing for a specific and unique event
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
Keith's latest:

Hello all,

A few weeks ago, I sent out a paper called Coming Judgment II in which I listed things that I believed the Lord had spoken to me. I have never claimed to be a prophet - just someone who spends a lot of time listening and trying to make sure that what I hear is God and aligns with Scripture). I have never claimed to be perfect. I have
no web site and don't plan on having one and I have no intention of writing a book or starting a church. I have no intention of taking any of you to China or anywhere else (contrary to an erroneous earlier post). I have simply shared a message that I believe the Lord spoke to me - not once but countless times. I have pointed out numerous times that I have never seen a posted date that was accurate, yet
I went ahead and did just that, I posted a date. To be more accurate, Final Call posted the date and I responded with an explanation on what I believe the date represented. I believe the date has 2 sections:
a physical and a spiritual manifestation.

It is the responsibility of everyone reading not only what I say, but what everyone says, to check it against Scripture and in prayer. I have mentioned to some of you who email me, that I wasn't going to post unless I knew, that I knew it was God. I have not received that affirmation yet and to post in entirety what I believed I received, would be an error (without that affirmation). It has also been pointed out to me that I owe each of you an explanation as to what I believed I received and what is happening. So with that counsel in mind I share the following paragraphs.

I appreciate all of you who have patiently waited for me to post. I am sorry if through anything I have done that I have hurt or injured any of you. That was never my intention. I was trying to communicate a message of judgment and repentance and to exhort each of you to make sure that you were walking not only with the Lord, but in
holiness and deep repentance. Again, if I have injured any of you, I ask forgiveness. It is in the spirit of love that I post this.

I have been hearing for several weeks that there was going to be an "explosion" that would originate/occur in the middle east and would literally shake the world. I was later given 3 countries that would be involved: Iraq, Iran and Israel. After more prayer, I believe I heard that the explosion (which was planned and greatly prepared in Iraq
and Iran) would not be manifested there, but would actually see its fulfillment in China, during the Olympics. I believe that I have heard that the terrorists would target very specifically the destruction of the United States and Israeli teams. I am going to stop at this point.

I will not be posting anything further tonight (or in the future) unless I can be sure that it is God and not error. I humbly submit what I believe the Lord has been saying in part. The Olympics will be over in a little over a week. We will all know if nothing happened, than I was wrong.

I send this in love, please accept it in the same spirit.

Keith
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Doom canceled!
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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Doom canceled!
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you need to wait till the end of the olypmics before you can say that i think.
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
[link to all-things-new.net]

(9 minutes ago)

Final Call:

"Truth?

Truth is all important..and so is being courageous enough to say the truth. Faith...faith is what it takes to say something you know will cause a LOT of damage if what you say does NOT come to pass.

Keith and I are facing these dilemma's.

I have been prepared now for over a year for this one and most important post of all. Up until yeasterday I was shaking in my boots about what I had to do. I KNOW I am accountable to GOD..and if I post something NOT from Him..I am a dead man...and so are many others who believe a "false word". Its not without MUCH searching and repenting and seeking and praying and being open and honest with you all that I have come to the point that I am prepared to post the final call..tonight...without ANY doubt whatsover now..that it IS the Lord.

I stand before you all now...ready to take any flak if the days after the 15th dont begin to show a marked difference in the world (Particularly within the church)...and soon after..a catastrophe of world changing proportions.

Keith has had to re evaluate a couple of things but he DOES know a few things of great importance. Once the Lord has completed His work in Keith...He too will post.

Until tonight...

Bless you all in Jesus name."
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
August 15th is being mentioned so often here and in other web sites. Nothing to do but wait and see.
If at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure is more your style.
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
basically the "news" evryone was waiting for is now this:

if a explosion is to occur in China/olympics 2008 in the next 24hours or before the games are over, that targets the US or/and Israel Team then it's the "proof" of the given prophecies - including destruction of half the world and what else horrors have been posted over there at the all things new board.
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""Prayer is the answer! Prayer can mitigate much of anything to come. Love and unity must be at the forefront, not survival of the fittest.""
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
I saw Keith's post, and his admission that he may be wrong.

That is all very well, but as i wrote in an email to a friend also following this event.

If he claims to have messages from God and delivers them he is standing in the ministry of a prophet whether he admits it or not. SO if he is wrong, having spoken in the name of the Lord, He is a false prophet. AS i said to my friend . . .

FWD

but its worse than that. he will not merely be wrong he will be a false prophet, one who has dared to speak in the name of the Lord when the Lord has not spoken.

under the law of Moses he would be liable to death, even under the gospel such error shows he has forsaken the Lord and walks in the flesh of his own imagination

DOES HE KNOW WHO GOD IS?????

if we value his written word why do we take the prophetic word so lightly as to brush off false utterance as mere error? false prophecy is tantamount to heresy, it is the attitude of antichrist for it presumes to stand in his place where he has not commanded. It is certainly offering Strange fire to the lord. And they dare continue??

as for prayer, when nothing happens, he clearly was not speaking to the lord but to his own imagination, and his own imagination answered thse prayers.

that shows how deeply in the dark he is.

false prophecy is NOT merely a matter of error, it shows our relationship to God is almost nonexistent, that our error is sin and presumption.

DOES HE NOT KNOW THIS?????

Another question: if he thinks himself a prophet has he been through YEARS of conviction of sin whereby his own presumptuous motioves have been admitted and repented of? Of he hasn't he is a dabbler a child and a dangerous heretic
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
God can change his mind at anytime. Prayer as OUR LADY BLESSED VIRGIN MARY has stated over and over again can mitigate anything to come.

And as to plans on cleansing the Earth, IMO for the Lord to allow nukes to be used would be detrimental as it would contaminate the world. I have reminded Him of this in my prayers.

Best way I hate to say it is natural disaster. :(

But we will see what happens after the Illumination of souls. That is the last chance that He is giving us all.

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"Be humble and accept that you are a sinner
and that you have flaws,
and weaknesses that you must address.
Then, you will be safe.

But on the other hand,
if you choose to block God's Mercy
with your pride or fear, or you give into self pity
and permit feelings of unworthiness
to overtake you,
after you have seen
a glimpse of your soul,
and do not accept God's Mercy,

You will encounter great difficulties.

Be confident in God's Mercy because the depth
of His love for you is unconditional
and beyond all human understanding."
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
[link to all-things-new.net]

(Today, 5:45 AM)

Final Call:

"The Lords word to the world.

"In the beginning it was I the Lord who created the heavens and the earth. I created ALL that you see. With love I formed the trees, the animals, the birds and the seas inhabitants. With love I breathed my life into all that has breath. It was with infinite love that I formed you...Mankind..in MY image. It was with Love that I gave you dominion over the world I had created for you. The stars..the endless galaxies you now behold...the endless galaxies in their untold mirriads beyond number...I created for you to appreciate..to behold My power and My Love.

It was with Love that I laid the foundations of the heavens. It was with Love for you..before I formed you from the dust...that I purposed that you would become my brethren..my relatives in spirit...my kindred. My purposes still hold and now..at the end of the ages I stand here now to tell you..Mankind..that I will show you very shortly just who I am. For you Mankind have forgotten Me..Your Lord and Creator. The enemy has served my purposes well in making this happen for I did NOT want a race of robots..But for YOU..Mankind..to have free choice. Love is never forced..it is chosen and Love by its very definition is an action..not a feeling.

Mankind has chosen to rebel. This is why I sent my Son Jesus..Immanuel..to show you the way and to pay the debt you could not. It tore my heart to see My Son die by your hands. But with Love He laid His life down so you could choose..if you willed it..to HAVE true Life..forever. Sin has no power over you except that which you give it by NOT choosing to accept the sacrifice of My Son. In your world of today sin has become a word of days gone by. What used to be sin is now the order of the day. What used to be frowned upon only a century ago is now called "good". Mankind..you have chosen to reject My Son and embrace the lies of My enemy. BUT..this was my purpose.

In rejecting me by insisting on your own will I have the means to show you what real love and forgiveness is. Without desolation there can BE no restoration. Without pain, pleasantness cannot be appreciated. Without rebellion forgiveness means nothing. Thus I have watched you..My beloved creation..fall..in order to let you see that sin and pleasures that you call "good" will only kill you and seperate you from me forever..by an act of YOUR will..not mine. For it is NOT my will that any should perish. I take NO pleasure in the deaths of even the most wicked and evil.

Through the years I have watched and anticipated this time. How I have longed for this moment when I can show you..Mankind..that I DO exist..and not only do I exist..I LOVE YOU. I love you with a passion. I love you so much that I let you kill my only Son in order for YOUR salvation to be purchased.
If it was NOT for my Love..Mankind would have perished form the face of the earth altogether. It is MY grace and my love which has stopped many events that would have prematurley ended your reign upon the earth. It was MY love for you that kept many diseases in check so they would not spread across the planet and kill you all. It was MY love for you that has held nature back from serving the recompense to you that Mankind has asked for.

My world..which I created for you..is in much pain and longs to be free of the degradation which mankind has and is inflicting upon it. It groans under the weight of the devastations mankind inflicts.
Soon my creation will be healed and soon evil will be utterly banished from the earth for the next day.
My Beloved Mankind...how I long for the end..when I stand with you..the redeemed ones who choose to accept my offer of salvation..upon the new earth I will make for you when the last day is done.

But now..to the present time. I have given much time and had much patience with the wicked. I have let the rain fall on both good and evil. Both eat and both drink. But the time comes now when the rains will NOT fall..and there will BE no food...and your only recourse will be in me..your LORD. I will reveal myself to the world so you will KNOW who it is you must run to in the days ahead when the good times come to a sudden end. The worlds system will offer you much to keep you from running to me..they will mark you and enslave you and doom you in the process. DO NOT take their mark..for it is a choice of eternal consequences.

I am not an angry God..but I AM a JUST God. I must meet justice and give her what she demands. But justice is tempered with mercy and that is why the time will be shortened or none of you will live to see MY Government..when I show the world what a HOLY Government run by MY Son can accomplish.
Can you imagine never fearing?..NO hunger..all peace and Love..all perfection and no worries about bills and stress and time and work and such things as you chase after NOW?
Imagine a world where your children can grow strong and healthy and NOT die. Where they are safe from ALL harm and have nothing but Love for all.

This is YOUR future IF YOU CHOOSE IT!

Its real and its NOT a myth as most of you are taught now in your schools and on your TV's. I am real and I DO love you and I plan for as many who may come to share in my love for you and in the new world for eternity I will create for you. No more tears and no more pain and joy..JOY..always and forever at the un ending vista's of incredible beauty that is my entire creation both seen and unseen.
A NEW heavens..and a NEW earth..my purposes and the mystery fulfilled.

But I must warn you My beloved Mankind..that you cannot inherit My kingdom unless you believe in My Son Jesus who died so you could HAVE this choice. Without My Son..and the shedding of HIS Blood..there is no remission of Sin. No one can come to me except through My son. And whom my Son accepts as a brother..I accept as a Son. Choose well and choose soon for Mankinds time is now over.
There is no more delay. I come to take back my beloved planet in total. I have the deed to the planet..and I return to claim it. But before the new Kingdom can be established I MUST root out all evil and pour my justice out on those who destroy the earth.

What mankind has sown is about to be reaped. Mankind has sown the wind and will now reap the whirlwind. Mankind has sown destruction and will now reap desolation. In this time of reaping My wrath will be with held back in order for as many of you as will choose to do so will take your place at my side and refuse the system of the world. I will make it easy for millions to choose me because there will be no comforts left in the world except Me and no doubt that I AM who I say I AM. I will show you just how much I love..and the entire world will hear the Gospel of My Beloved Son Jesus before the great Day of my wrath.

Many upheavals are coming shortly to your world...Birthpains...many disasters and many signs in the sun and the mooon and in the stars. I will not allow these things to begin without warning signs. I promised to do this and I have been. Have you not noticed the many comets I have sent into the sun in recent years? Have you failed to notice the vast amount of stellar events in recent years? I have even hushed the sun..and calmed it..before it goes wild to give you time to notice. But shortly, for those who have no internet and no access to this information..I will send a visible sign for all the world to behold and wonder at..and you will KNOW there is a GOD in heaven.

There will be signs upon the earth as well. I will not leave you without notice or chance. I LOVE you all..and I dont WANT to see any suffer but like wayward children many WILL suffer for justice will be served by your own hand..reaping what you have sown. MY wrath will only be poured out once the righteous and those who chose me even in the midst of great troubles are removed. Then my wrath will be poured out...the moon will become blood red..the sun will cease its light..and a great and mighty hail will pummel your world..and reduce everything evil to rubble. For the ones left will not only KNOW I AM..but they will curse me to my face and refuse to repent. Thus I will pour my wrath upon the wicked and end forever the reign of evil.

I know many will ignore this warning. That is why I will give a sign in the heavens to show you I mean what I say. IN addition I will persoanlly reveal myself to ALL who repent from this time forward. This is the day..from this time..salvation will be more than repentance...it will be accomplished with a meeting with me that will leave those converted so utterly converted that NO persecution will sway them...What is mine will STAY mine. Mankind..when you believe upon MY SON..you will see ME..and I will show you who I AM.

So now brace yourselves Beloved Mankind..brace yourselves because your world will rock to and fro as drunk. The nations will rise up and terrible wars will be fought and many will perish. Food will vanish from your shelves and all luxuries will cease..and a days pay will only purchase a small loaf of bread. UNLESS you are Mine I cannot provide NOR protect because you choose to ignore my offer. I hold out my arms with Love but I will NOT go against your free will. COME to me Mankind..accept my Love..accept my provision..for I wish only that ALL of you would come. I formed each and every one of you. Not ONE HUMAN who has ever lived was a mistake..you have meaning and purpose IF you choose my ways of LOVE...and the ways My Son Jesus showed you two days ago.(two thousand years ago)

So the choice is yours beloved creation. I will allow conditions of the world from this day to decline. Many will become desperate in the days ahead..and as a result many will choose Me because safety will be found NO where else....except under my wings. You will know I am there..I will not leave you ignorant and I will remove the scales from over your eyes in an act of sovereign will to give you a fair chance to choose. Deception will be lifted from you long enough to give you a good long look at the two paths available to you.


When you stand before My throne...NO one will be able to say " I did not know"..for I am about to remove that excuse from mankind forever..for ALL will know I AM..and thus have a fair and FREE choice..to serve and follow Me..or to serve and follow Satan. There is no other choice..but you have FREE choice..GOOD..or EVIL.

In LOVE I say now...come. Whosoever is thirsty..I will give freely from the river of the water of LIFE.
I say again COME..and I will grant you the right once more to the tree of life.
And once more..and finally I say..COME..and you will live for eternity in JOY and GLORY unbounded.

IF ONLY..you will choose and follow me."
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FC and Keith

Both of you talked big weeks ago

as time marched on you backed off

this tells me you are not sure about the word being of the Lord or being of the Flesh

If you struggle with this then you are not ready to do what you are talking about.

That is not a bad thing! Do what you are called to do and don't get carried away about the big thing!!

Your brother in the Lord

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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
That was pretty specific! And jibes with what I'm reading from varied sources. Sorry nay-sayers (I mean, neigh-sayers) it's all coming to pass no matter how much you try to downplay the messengers. The protestant, Catholic, evengelical, random sources are all converging.

BTW, August 15th through Sept. 23 is a period of prayer and fasting for anyone who wants to join. It will be evident shortly why we need it!

God bless all. Remember, ACCEPT God's mercy! Jesus is the way, the truth and the life!
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I saw Keith's post, and his admission that he may be wrong.
That is all very well, but as i wrote in an email to a friend also following this event.
If he claims to have messages from God and delivers them he is standing in the ministry of a prophet whether he admits it or not. SO if he is wrong, having spoken in the name of the Lord, He is a false prophet. AS i said to my friend . . FWD
but its worse than that. he will not merely be wrong he will be a false prophet, one who has dared to speak in the name of the Lord when the Lord has not spoken.
under the law of Moses he would be liable to death, even under the gospel such error shows he has forsaken the Lord and walks in the flesh of his own imagination
DOES HE KNOW WHO GOD IS?????
if we value his written word why do we take the prophetic word so lightly as to brush off false utterance as mere error? false prophecy is tantamount to heresy, it is the attitude of antichrist for it presumes to stand in his place where he has not commanded. It is certainly offering Strange fire to the lord. And they dare continue??
as for prayer, when nothing happens, he clearly was not speaking to the lord but to his own imagination, and his own imagination answered thse prayers.
that shows how deeply in the dark he is.
false prophecy is NOT merely a matter of error, it shows our relationship to God is almost nonexistent, that our error is sin and presumption.
DOES HE NOT KNOW THIS?????
Another question: if he thinks himself a prophet has he been through YEARS of conviction of sin whereby his own presumptuous motioves have been admitted and repented of? Of he hasn't he is a dabbler a child and a dangerous heretic
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you deserve the flag,
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Keith is expressing his feelings that's all. If the feelings are about God and what God wants him to say then so be it. We can heed or not, it's our prerogative.

But condemnation and comparing him to some anti-Christ, whatever that means, is absolutely ridiculous!!

We live in a free country, forgot?

You deserved the flag!!
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
FC and Keith
Both of you talked big weeks ago
as time marched on you backed off
this tells me you are not sure about the word being of the Lord or being of the Flesh
If you struggle with this then you are not ready to do what you are talking about.
That is not a bad thing! Do what you are called to do and don't get carried away about the big thing!!
Your brother in the Lord
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Hey Ice, the name of the game *is* struggle! In prophecy it is usually you (and God) against the world.

I think he's keeping the date and the essence of his initial message.

The form may have been altered a little but the essence is the same.

I believe he's talking about some sort of critical point being reached now (today?) that will disturb the usual equilibrium of the various aspects of human life on Earth... and this criticality would be determined by God, according to his words.
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
Yes Ice. I agree with the above post.

The message is the same. Looking back on FC's posts I see He has been learning and admitting when He was wrong.

He mentioned about having to prophesy "In love".

This last nessage is exactly what he said right at the start but this time none of him showed through. He succeeded in posting "In love" as he longed to do.

How dare you continue to judge him.
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If weird things would start to happen that are unexplainable to people then maybe more would turn to God.
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
So let me get this straight.

The big event was supposed to be a few weeks ago but then God changed his mind and postponed to the 15th of August at which time there probably won't be a big event but it is the definite cutoff time for an individual to choose to be a sheep or a goat. But even after the 15th a person can still choose to be a sheep or a goat so long as they somehow dodge the invincible army of sheep saint harvesters armed with swords that will launch an offensive sometime between now and December?

I just want to make sure I've got this down right, being that my soul hangs on it.

And just one more question. What if your allergic to wool?

Thank You
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
(Today, 7:53 AM)

Final Call:

"I will also add this Plea From my very first post here. The final plea to the sheep. Its over a year old now..but NEVER has this particular word been more urgent.

One year ago there was time..now there is but seconds left.

THIS word is from Jesus...not the Father.

"PLEASE children..please..come in from the darkness now. Its time to shut the door and I must do what I have decreed in ages past. I bled for you..I died for you..and I would have done it if you were the ONLY one to ever exist..EVEN if I knew in my omnipotence that you would STILL reject me..my great love for you would still have sent me to the cross..to die for you. I would have handed you the hammer and the nails myself if I had to..all for you..just to give you the merest CHANCE to accept my love. Oh dont you yet see how great my love is? Cannot you yet fathom why my heart breaks now? I have called..and called..and called some more..in the hope that just one more might come in to the wedding feast with me."

"So many called..so few chosen. But you knew..you heard..and I gave plenty of time for my love to filter through if you had but given it a chance. I have watched over you all..my dear sheep..as a shepherd should..even knowing there were wolves in the flock..because even a wolf can be turned into a sheep if it chooses to turn. DONT you understand yet even as I close the door..that there is NO sin so GREAT..that my love is not GREATER!! Please..the latch is about to click shut..and I must be true to my own word. I must now begin what I told John about on that lonley wind swept isle so many centuries ago. It is time now for the sheep to enter into the fold for the winter comes with its final storm."
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
I wonder if Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah or any of the Almighty's prophets ever had to back pedal or print a retraction?

I doubt it. When they said it would happen, it did.

I am looking forward to a pleasant Friday, although hot enough to be in hell. 110° yesterday, 112° today. That is enough doom for me.
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Sounds legit to me.
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These false prophets and their false prophecies are a fulfillment of a true prophecy by a true prophet as is recorded in the Bible.

Peter 2:1 "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies..."

Anytime you're ready, God is ready to take you back. Repentance is what matters to God not dates on a calendar.
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
Their reference to a single precipitate storm of events SUDDENLY manifesting resonates with a nightmare I had about that in the Spring. And I already posted about the TSUNAMI DREAMS my wife and i had on the same night just weeks ago.



I am very critical of anything smacking of false prophecy and I make no bones about confronting it wherever I go. it is part of my outreach ministry to cult religions and victims thereof and an adjunct to deliverance ministry confronting evil on another front. I normally would be the first to go full metal jacket against these two voices.



It's clear their ability to interpret does not reflect a perfect anointing upon them at this time.


On the other hand, as two Christians who are obviously moved with unusual urgency i do not sense in my Spirit they are "false". In fact I think they are truly sensing the relative nearness of world-changing events that will likely kick off what Jesus described as the Beginning of Sorrows and I think they are in sync with the Spirit on that crucial point. That's what I think.
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
FC and Keith
Both of you talked big weeks ago
as time marched on you backed off
this tells me you are not sure about the word being of the Lord or being of the Flesh
If you struggle with this then you are not ready to do what you are talking about.
That is not a bad thing! Do what you are called to do and don't get carried away about the big thing!!
Your brother in the Lord
Ice

Hey Ice, the name of the game *is* struggle! In prophecy it is usually you (and God) against the world.

I think he's keeping the date and the essence of his initial message.

The form may have been altered a little but the essence is the same.

I believe he's talking about some sort of critical point being reached now (today?) that will disturb the usual equilibrium of the various aspects of human life on Earth... and this criticality would be determined by God, according to his words.
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It's all cool!! I guess what I am saying about Keith is spilling on FC because I know little about both for sure!!

They do seem to be connected on ATN! I know FC is talking more DEC 29th other than Aug 15th.

Seem to be a build up to nothing is all I am saying!!!

If we are moving into that day we have been seeing it will show!

I am not liking what I am seeing out of Russia! That is something that is not a maybe!!


God Bless all

ice
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
Details on the Kasatochi eruption
[link to eruptions.wordpress.com]
August 14, 2008 by Erik Klemetti


This article sums up a lot of the events that led up to the Kasatochi (Alaska) eruption last week from the point of view of the biologists on the island itself right before it erupted. There are some great descriptions of the whole island shaking for *** 10 *** minutes, and they also offer some exciting new details such as this:





Saturday, May 03, 2008

Chaitén volcano in southern Chile erupted yesterday for the first time in over 9000 years.


Nothing unusual.
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I am ready for anything at this point! I think it's gonna be Rev. Ch. 6.
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Re: A Voice Calling...THE HAMMER DESCENDS!!! ... 15 August 2008 (posts by Final Call of Australia)
"Sheep"

Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air
You better watch out
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.

What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by
With bright knives he releaseth my soul
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places
He converteth me to lamb cutlets
For lo,m he hath great power and great hunger
When cometh the day we lowly ones
Through quiet reflection and great dedication
Master the art of karate
Lo, we shall rise up
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.

Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.

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