NeoCon Agenda Middle East - the Empire is Dying at Last

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Before Peace we have to attain Freedom for All.

i noticed your time line did not go back to 1951 when Iran Privitized the oil facilities that the United States developed, in Iran..Folks Privatize is just a polite word for steal from rightful developer and to turn the investment over to the state after said investment was developed........Hugo Chavez just Privatized (nice) word for steal from the developers, oil facilities that Exon and BP developed off Venezuela shores..to the tune of 33 Billion plus plus plus dollars...so why did you delete important facts concerning assets of the United States that were stolen from the United States by middleast arab raiders who always sacked each otthers villiages, to plunder the wealth kill the citizens and then enslave the villages citizens....throughout all of ancient history to present day.........

Oh, so it's American oil?

I see.



Haliburton supplied parts for the Iranian uranium enrichment program.

I suppose Israel are getting all bent out of shape over an American nuclear program?

First, you are confusing privatize with nationalize. Please look up both words.

Second, nationalization is in principle no different from what American government bodies do every day: seize private property for public use. We call it "eminent domain". How do you think the government gets the land for a new expressway, airport, or military base? It simply takes what it needs.

Our Constitution does require that the private property owner be paid "just compensation" for such seized property, but of course who defines how much that is? The government, of course.

BUT IT IS OK TO STEAL PEOPLES GOLD, AS DONE IN USA

ITS OK TO STEAL PEOPLES HOMES, AS DONE IN THE USA.

PLUS YOU OVERLOOK THAT GENERALLY BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRIVATISED FOR THE NATIONAL GOOD ARE COMPENSATED. SAME AS AMTRAK IN USA

THEN YOU FORGET THAT USA THEN OVERTHREW THE GOVERNMENT AND INSTALLED A HATED PUPPET.

SEEMS YOU LIKE TO APPLY ONE BENEFICIAL LAW FOR THE RICH AND POWERFUL BUT DENY THAT TO SIMPLE PEOPLE.

SAD

GL

Nuclear 'scare' against Iran exposed:

A 15-page paper on the process requirements for casting and machining of uranium metal into hemispherical forms - said to useful only for making the core of a nuclear weapon - has been raised by the United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in recent months as evidence of an alleged Iranian intention to build nuclear weapons.

The agency's May 26, 2008, report said Pakistan had confirmed that "an identical document exists in Pakistan" but provided no additional information on what had been learned about it. The same report asserted that the issue remains "outstanding", and that the IAEA's "overall assessment of the nature of Iran's nuclear program ... requires, inter alia, an understanding of the role of the
uranium metal document".

Two days later, the deputy director and head of the Safeguards Department of the IAEA, Olli Heinonen, was quoted by an anonymous diplomatic source in an Agence France-Presse report as telling a closed-door briefing of IAEA member-states in Vienna that Iran's possession of the document was "alarming".

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee then referred in its draft congressional resolution calling for a blockade of Iran to Tehran's alleged "importation of designs to convert highly enriched uranium gas into metal and shape into the core of a nuclear weapon".

But the IAEA has long had information supporting the Iranian claim that it never asked for the document and has never used it since Pakistan's Abdul Qadeer Khan network added it to a centrifuge purchase without any prior discussion. In fact, an IAEA report last November appeared to clear Iran from suspicion on the issue.

The revival of that issue in 2008 appears to reflect political pressure on the IAEA from the United States and its allies.

Iran admits having received the document from Khan's network when Iranian scientists obtained centrifuge designs from that group. But Iranian officials have contended from the beginning that its scientists never requested any such instructions and that the Khan network suppliers threw the document into the deal when the Iranians purchased plans for P-1 centrifuges.

When scientists from the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) first met with the Khan network in Zurich in July 1987, they were given a handwritten one-page offer. The IAEA has described that offer, which was later turned over to it by Iran, as including a sample disassembled centrifuge, along with technical drawings and specifications for production, plans for a complete enrichment plant with 2,000 centrifuges, and auxiliary equipment for uranium re-conversion and casting.

Iran told the IAEA that the intermediaries had offered the re-conversion unit with casting equipment on their own initiative and that AEOI had neither requested nor received it.

The agency demanded that Iran turn over all documents pertaining to the Khan network offer and what was actually purchased. But Iran said it had no other documentary evidence relating to the 1987 offer, blaming the secretive management style of the AEOI at that time.

What the IAEA has not revealed in its reports, however, is that in January 2005, Iran allowed IAEA investigators to look through boxes of old AEOI files, according to a source close to the IAEA. During that search, the investigators came across the infamous 15-page "uranium metal document".

"As they were going through boxes of papers, it literally fell out," says the source.

Iranian officials explained that the document had been provided by the Khan network supplier when Iran purchased centrifuge blueprints at a meeting in Dubai in 1987 but insisted that Iran had not asked for it.

Had the document triggered a secret Iranian nuclear weapons project, it obviously would not have been left in files related to the centrifuge and enrichment plans for the IAEA to find. Far from Iran seeking to hide the document as incriminating, its atomic energy officials had apparently simply filed it away and forgotten it.

Although the Iranian officials refused to give up the actual document to the IAEA, during a January 2006 visit by IAEA officials, Iran allowed agency inspectors to "examine the document again and to place it under IAEA seal". That meant that IAEA inspectors could read it whenever they wanted, as the agency explained in February 2007.

Iran agreed to provide a copy of the document to the IAEA in November 2007.

In its February 22, 2008, report, the IAEA suggested that it needed more information from Pakistan to resolve the issue. "The agency is still waiting for a response from Pakistan on the circumstances of the delivery of this document," said the report, "in order to understand the full scope and content of the offer made by the network in 1987."

Contrary to the IAEA claim of ignorance about the "full scope and content" the 1987 offer, however, the IAEA actually had an extensive interview with the key Khan network figure present at the meeting with the Iranians in Dubai: Khan's chief financial officer, Buhari Sayed Abu Tahir.

Tahir was arrested in Malaysia in May 2004, and Heinonen and other IAEA officials obtained an account of the meeting in Dubai in an interview with Tahir in February 2005 - after the agency had become aware of the uranium metal document, according to the book The Nuclear Jihadist by journalists Douglas Frantz and Catherine Collins.

That account was made available to Frantz and Collins, who detailed the history of the Khan network. Frantz and Collins also obtained the account of the same meeting given by Iranian officials to the IAEA.

Although they quote Khan's salesmen as telling the Iranians how many atom bombs could be made annually from the uranium enrichment plant for which they were selling the plans, Frantz and Collins indicate that the Iranians did not ask for any plans relating to nuclear weapons manufacture.

Instead, the authors write that after agreeing on the price of the equipment and plans, Khan's men "sweetened the deal" by throwing in the uranium metal document.

The Khan network apparently added the uranium metal document as an afterthought in the hope of selling the Iranians on additional technology. The document only outlined procedural requirements for casting uranium into hemispheres, not the technical specifications that would have been necessary to carry out the operation, as the IAEA report of November 18, 2005, noted.

Contrary to IAEA claims that it needs more information to clarify the significance of the uranium metal document, moreover, the agency's November 15, 2007, report said the issue had been resolved to its satisfaction.

That report concluded, "Based on interviews with available Iranian officials and members of the supply network, limited documentation provided by Iran and procurement information collected through the agency's independent investigation, the agency has concluded that Iran's statements are consistent with other information available to the agency concerning Iran's acquisition of declared P-1 centrifuge enrichment technology in 1987."

The timing of the IAEA's decision in early 2008 to highlight the uranium metal document, after having previously indicated that it was resolved, suggests that it was the result of new political pressures on the agency. The new IAEA hard line on the issue came after Iran had provided new information that resolved the entire list of issues about the history of its nuclear program on which the IAEA had been raising doubts since 2003.

It also coincided with the introduction into the IAEA process on Iran of "alleged studies" of weaponization - documents whose authenticity has not been verified by the agency and which it has not been allowed to share with Iran.

[link to www.atimes.com]

Your history in your first sentence is absolutely inaccurate.

Educate yourself and discover who factually has been doing the "killing" and "plundering":

Oil and Iran
Thread: OIL and IRAN - Are you aware of the history?

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LOL...s/he didn't even get the development part right. It was a private developer - an individual - from Britain who was given exploration and development concessions by Iran. That man's company later turned into BP. Timeline is in the link provided in my post above. The history is quite interesting.

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How can you make so many grammatical mistakes in simple English?

Exxon [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Privatised [link to www.tfd.com]

Middle East [link to www.tfd.com]

Arab [link to www.tfd.com]

Others [link to www.tfd.com]

Villages [link to www.tfd.com]

There are many on-line dictionaries and browser add-ons that will turn your ramblings into coherent, if not ambiguous rantings!

.............................................................​.............................................................​.so it is established that Iran did Nationlize the U.S. investment of the United States.without just compensation to be paid to U.S. ....just likeHugo Chavaz of Venezuela has done to International Company of Exon Mobile and British Petroleum......so in essance Iran and Venezuela are corporate thieves...of Multi Billions of Dollars..somehow it is easy to see how Arabs have raided each others wealth throughout history.........................as has currently happened in Lebanon when Iran,s militant wing Hizballah overthrew Lebanon several months ago .,and will overthrow Iraq if possible ..while trying to over Israel. as we speak.....................plus Iran is promoting attemp to overthrow of Pakestan and Aphganistan as we speak.....ah did i miss any other countries that sweet Iran is trying to manage...The citizens of the countries that Iran is activily wooing with incentives packages called terror attacks, are pretty fed up...........

Talk about turning the facts into fiction!

More ramblings from a non English speaking person....

NO WONDER THE EMPIRE IS DYING.

JUST READ THE POST ABOVE

MUST BE A GOOD THING

GL

i Kan to Spal

The US is a dying Empire , Not much different then Rome in her day.

We make and pass and mandate useless laws that take PC way to far and at the same time revoke the rights and force our agendas down other nations throats .

The same cut throat puppets are working very hard to even stay in control at this point .

Say what you will and flame me if you wish , But one day and one day soon the people who can rise will and when we do , Our main mission is to give this nation back to the people and make it work for the people .

As it was a land that was supposed to be ran by the people and for the people .

This is no longer the case , There are no average Joe's in any postion of power , We must force them to give our country back , and if a civil war is the means to do so , The so be it.


TPTB , Your time is limited and running out , I will fight and die to ensure this nation is returned to the people

i think its about The Revenge of Royal Family to take back their kingdom from alien :D

so does anyone have info concering the stolen wealth of investors who went to the middleast in the last 100 yrs only to eventually lose thier investment from middleast Nations Nationalizing oil developed interest..who developed te oil facilities of the middleast OPEC Cartels..

From 1949 on, sentiment for nationalization of Iran's oil industry grew. In 1949 the Majlis approved the First Development Plan (1948-55), which called for comprehensive agricultural and industrial development of the country. The Plan Organization was established to administer the program, which was to be financed in large part from oil revenues. Politically conscious Iranians were aware, however, that the British government derived more revenue from taxing the concessionaire, the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC--formerly the AnI suckersian Oil Company), than the Iranian government derived from royalties. The oil issue figured prominently in elections for the Majlis in 1949, and nationalists in the new Majlis were determined to renegotiate the AIOC agreement. In November 1950, the Majlis committee concerned with oil matters, headed by Mossadeq, rejected a draft agreement in which the AIOC had offered the government slightly improved terms. These terms did not include the fifty-fifty profit-sharing provision that was part of other new Persian Gulf oil concessions.

Subsequent negotiations with the AIOC were unsuccessful, partly because General Ali Razmara, who became prime minister in June 1950, failed to persuade the oil company of the strength of nationalist feeling in the country and in the Majlis. When the AIOC finally offered fifty-fifty profit-sharing in February 1951, sentiment for nationalization of the oil industry had become widespread. Razmara advised against nationalization on technical grounds and was assassinated in March 1951 by Khalil Tahmasebi, a member of the militant Fadayan-e Islam. On March 15, the Majlis voted to nationalize the oil industry. In April the shah yielded to Majlis pressure and demonstrations in the streets by naming Mossadeq prime minister.

Oil production came to a virtual standstill as British technicians left the country, and Britain imposed a worldwide embargo on the purchase of Iranian oil. In September 1951, Britain froze Iran's sterling assets and banned export of goods to Iran. It challenged the legality of the oil nationalization and took its case against Iran to the International Court of Justice at The Hague. The court found in Iran's favor, but the dispute between Iran and the AIOC remained unsettled. Under United States pressure, the AIOC improved its offer to Iran. The excitement generated by the nationalization issue, anti-British feeling, agitation by radical elements, and the conviction among Mossadeq's advisers that Iran's maximum demands would, in the end, be met, however, led the government to reject all offers. The economy began to suffer from the loss of foreign exchange and oil revenues.

Meanwhile, Mossadeq's growing popularity and power led to political chaos and eventual United States intervention. Mossadeq had come to office on the strength of support from the National Front and other parties in the Majlis and as a result of his great popularity. His popularity, growing power, and intransigence on the oil issue were creating friction between the prime minister and the shah. In the summer of 1952, the shah refused the prime minister's demand for the power to appoint the minister of war (and, by implication, to control the armed forces). Mossadeq resigned, three days of pro-Mossadeq rioting followed, and the shah was forced to reappoint Mossadeq to head the government.

As domestic conditions deteriorated, however, Mossadeq's populist style grew more autocratic. In August 1952, the Majlis acceded to his demand for full powers in all affairs of government for a six-month period. These special powers were subsequently extended for a further six-month term. He also obtained approval for a law to reduce, from six years to two years, the term of the Senate (established in 1950 as the upper house of the Majlis), and thus brought about the dissolution of that body. Mossadeq's support in the lower house of the Majlis (also called the Majlis) was dwindling, however, so on August 3, 1953, the prime minister organized a plebiscite for the dissolution of the Majlis, claimed a massive vote in favor of the proposal, and dissolved the legislative body.

The administration of President Harry S Truman initially had been sympathetic to Iran's nationalist aspirations. Under the administration of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, however, the United States came to accept the view of the British government that no reasonable compromise with Mossadeq was possible and that, by working with the Tudeh, Mossadeq was making probable a communist-inspired takeover. Mossadeq's intransigence and inclination to accept Tudeh support, the Cold War atmosphere, and the fear of Soviet influence in Iran also shaped United States thinking. In June 1953, the Eisenhower administration approved a British proposal for a joint Anglo-American operation, code-named Operation Ajax, to overthrow Mossadeq. Kermit Roosevelt of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) traveled secretly to Iran to coordinate plans with the shah and the Iranian military, which was led by General Fazlollah Zahedi.

In accord with the plan, on August 13 the shah appointed Zahedi prime minister to replace Mossadeq. Mossadeq refused to step down and arrested the shah's emissary. This triggered the second stage of Operation Ajax, which called for a military coup. The plan initially seemed to have failed, the shah fled the country, and Zahedi went into hiding. After four days of rioting, however, the tide turned. On August 19, pro-shah army units and street crowds defeated Mossadeq's forces. The shah returned to the country. Mossadeq was sentenced to three years' imprisonment for trying to overthrow the monarchy, but he was subsequently allowed to remain under house arrest in his village outside Tehran until his death in 1967. His minister of foreign affairs, Hosain Fatemi, was sentenced to death and executed. Hundreds of National Front leaders, Tudeh Party officers, and political activists were arrested; several Tudeh army officers were also sentenced to death.

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Before peace???????? To have freedom you must first gather its leaders of its problems 22 in all.UNITY first,PEACE secound,FREEDOM third,...... For thousands years through your forfathers never ending cycles of perpatrader to victim,for thousands years through your forfathers victim to perpatrader.Millions and millions of pages writen from the beginning of time.Millions and millions of laws you have inbondeged your own in.For thousands and thousands of years you have caged your own.If a man could not speak,only then the dog would have equall freedom,but now the dog has more freedom.All nations stood chance dec 21 2006.For he are she today have a ear.TO GATHER THE 22 LEADERS OF FAITH COST LESS TO TRAIN JUST ONE SINGLE SOLDIER IN THESE THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF SINCELESS WARS.THESE LEADERS ARE THE LEADERS OF YOUR FAITH.If he are she had a ear in these days to come since dec 21 2006,your nation and all nations are in a fall with no return.Your only chance of survival is to gather the 22 leaders of faith.Even with all this be like a walk on a thread across a ocean.For i have seen with witness dec 21 2006,for it is carved in stone.Divinity i beg you please e-mail me to all leaders of faith,all leaders of government,i remain T.A.H ...my computer was hacked.Do the math since dec 21 2006.

Looks like you don't know the difference between "Nationalize" and "Privatize" huh?

HUH

WHAT STOLEN WEALTH

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so does anyone have info concering the stolen wealth of investors who went to the middleast in the last 100 yrs only to eventually lose thier investment from middleast Nations Nationalizing oil developed interest..who developed te oil facilities of the middleast OPEC Cartels..

UNQUOTE

THE MINERAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEALTH OF ANY COUNTRY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE OF THAT COUNTRY.

IF THEY HIRE SOMEBODY TO COLLECT IT FOR THEM, THEY PAY THEM A FEE.

IF THE CONTRACTOR THEN STEALS SAID GOODS AND EXPLOITS HIS POSITION, HE GETS RIGHTFULLY KICKED OUT.

SPOILS HE ESCAPES WITH ARE NOT WEALTH BUT STOLEN GOODS.

NOW I CAN AGREE THAT YOU CAN ARGUE OVER WHAT IS A FAIR RETURN BUT THE MARKET (SIC) ON THE WHOLE DECIDES THAT. UNLIKE WALMART WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PAY USD 15,000 FOR A TV OR USD 500.

COMMERCIAL COLONIALISM IS STILL COLONIALISM

GL

WHICH BRINGS US TO AN INTERESTING POINT.

IF YOU CATCH A SERVANT, AN EMPLOYEE OR CONTRACTOR STEALING FROM YOU

YOU KICK THEM OUT

IF THEY ROBBED YOU BLIND YOU PROSECUTE THEM

IN BOTH CASES YOU DONT COMPENSATE THEM.

HOWEVER IF YOU ARE THE CEO OF A NEOCON CORPORATION OR A BIG PHARMA BIG WIG AND YOU GET CAUGHT WITH YOUR HAND IN THE COOKIE JAR, YOU GET MILLIONS IN COMPENSATION.

SAYS A LOT THAT.

GL

Chinese president meets Bush on bilateral ties, six-party talks, Taiwan 10th July 2008:

Chinese President Hu Jintao and his U.S. counterpart George W. Bush met in Toyako, Japan on Wednesday on bilateral ties and other issues of mutual concern.

The two leaders met in the northern Japanese resort of Toyako on the sidelines of the Outreach Session of the Group of Eight (G8) summit.

At the talks, Hu said China-U.S. relations have maintained a good momentum in recent years, with the fourth China-U.S. strategic economic dialogue producing positive results.

The two countries have engaged in effective cooperation in many fields including trade and commerce, anti-terrorism measures, energy and environmental protection, said Hu.

On major international and regional matters such as the nuclear issues concerning the Korean Peninsula and Iran, China and the U.S. have kept up effective communication and coordination, he noted.

The Chinese leader emphasized the significance of the China-U.S. relationship, as it suits the fundamental interests of both the Chinese and the American people, and serves world peace and development.

He suggested that both nations continue constructive and cooperative relations, strengthen dialogue, so as to guarantee a healthy and steady development of bilateral relations.

On the Doha Round of trade talks, Hu said China has actively participated in the talks and has maintained an open market, thus fulfilling the obligations following its entry into the World Trade Organization.

On the Taiwan issue, Hu spoke of the recent developments in the cross-Straits situation, especially the resumption of talks between the mainland's Association for Relations Across the Taiwan Straits and the Taiwan-based Straits Exchange Foundation following a nine-year hiatus.

China will adhere to the theme of peaceful development of cross-Straits relations, and promote exchanges and cooperation in economy, culture and other fields, he said.

Bush expressed his pleasure at the improvement of relations across the Taiwan Straits.

While drawing attention to the significant progress made at thesix-party talks, Hu also cautioned that all parties still have many more things to do in order to truly realize the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Bush agreed that tangible outcome has been achieved at the six-party talks. He hailed the active participation of China in the negotiations, and hoped the second-phase action would be accomplished in a verifiable manner.

The two leaders also discussed the upcoming Beijing Olympic Games. Bush said he is looking forward to attending the opening ceremony of the Games with his family and enjoying the events.

Hu extended a warm welcome to Bush for the Olympics, saying that his wish to be present at the Games proves the U.S. leader values the friendship between the Chinese and American peoples.

Hu also expressed his gratitude to President Bush, the U.S. government and people for their condolences and generous assistance to the victims of the devastating earthquake that struck China's southwestern Sichuan province in May.

[link to english.people.com.cn]

GREY LENSMAN,

I see a great deal of understanding coming from your posts. There is much more going on here than meets the eyes -- yet, I do see that it has met yours.

Thanks.

"You stay out of my backyard and I'll stay out of yours," is all that I hear Iran saying. As far as their missile display the other day, it's just a display to show that they can defend themselves --- not that they intend to strike the first blow.

After all, do not other "countries" show their wares? Why get so upset and worked up when Iran shows their capabilities. Like I said, it's like them saying --- "I can do that too!"

Sunpar

Good post, Divinity.

Look, If I'm a plumer, and I fix your pipes, that does not mean that I get a free shower at your house for the rest of my life!

nonmaterial structure 376724,

"... the power of MONEY" is earth's electric universe!

Money is energy in 3D -- plain and simple.

*move it or stifle it*

*it's backfiring now.... can you hear it?* (exactly what happens when you let your foot off the gas, turn off the ignition and then turn it back on)
[WARNING: don't try this with modern cars because it locks the steering wheel]


Sunpar

Anonymous Coward 465149,

Oh WOW!

That's a GOOD ONE!

*ain't a good analogy just GRAND?*

Sunpar

No, but it means you keep your deal and pay.

Their end of the deal was a percentage of revenue from the sales of oil that they could NOT get without our help - being too busy fucking camels at the time.

Free money is the deal they got.

And broke it.

Nothing make this right, moral or just.

LUV U MAN