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BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]

 
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BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
THE BUTTERED TOAST WOULD BE PULLING TO LAND ON THE GROUND, AS THE CAT'S FEET WOULD COUNTER, PULLING THE OPPOSITE WAY, RESULTING IN A HORIZONTALLY DEAD LOCK POSITION AND LANDING ON THE SIDES OF BOTH THE TOAST & THE CAT.

WHO'S THE BEST IN THIS BUSINESS, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
It's sad that you actually taxed your brain to refute that.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
I think the concept is faulty.

You need to attach the buttered toast to the cat's stomach.

As long as the cat was kept spinning it would float in mid air.

I just tried it with two different cats, works like a charm.

Except for the fact that the cats did not seem to enjoy the experiment.

Wish I had a digital camera so I could post pics.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
I think the concept is faulty.

You need to attach the buttered toast to the cat's stomach.
 Quoting: G. House

SEE HOW IT WORKS!!!!

FIRST YOU EMPTIED YOUR HEAD FROM THE LIE THAT THE CONCEPT WAS FALSE, AND MADE ROOM FOR WHAT COULD BE TRUE IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, SAME APPLIES TO ALL.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
Beats me scratching 1dunno1
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
I think the concept is faulty.

You need to attach the buttered toast to the cat's stomach.

As long as the cat was kept spinning it would float in mid air.

I just tried it with two different cats, works like a charm.

Except for the fact that the cats did not seem to enjoy the experiment.

Wish I had a digital camera so I could post pics.
 Quoting: G. House


GHouse. how many trials (and sets of leather gloves) did you go through prior to figuring out the stomach idea?
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
On further reflection I don't think the cat-toast thing would really get us anywhere. Basically all that's being done is making the cat and toast weightless.

We would need to create negative weight for this to be worthwhile.

All we would have with this venture is a bunch of cats and toast spinning around in one place.

Unless we could harness the spin somehow?
 Quoting: G. House


Well this is interesting; the Cat-Toast combination must be producing a force that is equal and opposite to the force of gravity since they are clearly not in freefall. I suspect the spin is produced by an imbalance in the direction of force pulling the cats feet downwards and the direction of lift produced by the unbuttered side of the toast, (If you have ever tried it you will know that its very hard to apply buttered toast to a cat in such a way that the unbuttered surface of the toast is at exactly 180 degrees to the cat's paws unless the cat REALLY wants to cooperate). Therefore I feel the spin will not produce useful work as the magnitude of the force will be small.

I do feel that there is a problem with the diagram given – it’s not to scale. The unbuttered side of the toast only need to produce enough lift to rotate the toast through 180 degrees in its journey from plate to floor, I doubt this is enough lift to compensate for the force generated by the four paws of a weighty cat. I therefore think one needs to think about encasing the cat in a larger buttered dough product (may be a baguette?). One could envisage a device where the cat was completely encased in the bread (so that the lift making surface has maximum surface area), with four holes for the paws to stick out. As you have suggested a trawl of Asian cuisine may already find such a device lurking in a restaurant kitchen somewhere. I am suspicious given that the Chinese have announced their own moon programme.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
I think the concept is faulty.

You need to attach the buttered toast to the cat's stomach.

As long as the cat was kept spinning it would float in mid air.

I just tried it with two different cats, works like a charm.

Except for the fact that the cats did not seem to enjoy the experiment.

Wish I had a digital camera so I could post pics.
 Quoting: G. House


You actually did it? Do you have any idea what kind of jeopardy you put the universe in?!? You're worse than the guys at CERN!!!!
damned

On a side note, do you think this will be useful as anything other than conversation pieces/decoration at PETA get-togethers?
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
I think the concept is faulty.

You need to attach the buttered toast to the cat's stomach.

As long as the cat was kept spinning it would float in mid air.

I just tried it with two different cats, works like a charm.

Except for the fact that the cats did not seem to enjoy the experiment.

Wish I had a digital camera so I could post pics.
 Quoting: G. House

GHouse. how many trials (and sets of leather gloves) did you go through prior to figuring out the stomach idea?
 Quoting: Geogal


Gloves?

Damn,

Now you tell me!

I lost count as I was losing a lot of blood and then had to go to the emergency room.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
lmao
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
I think the concept is faulty.

You need to attach the buttered toast to the cat's stomach.

As long as the cat was kept spinning it would float in mid air.

I just tried it with two different cats, works like a charm.

Except for the fact that the cats did not seem to enjoy the experiment.

Wish I had a digital camera so I could post pics.
 Quoting: G. House



Having thought some more, and tried a number of practical experiments I believe you theory is incorrect. The cat’s weight is cancelled not through the pull of the buttered side of toast, but the repelling force generated by the unbuttered side. In a perfectly balanced cat-toast system set up as you describe the cat will rotate by 180 degrees whilst hovering in midair then simply float paws up gently bobbing in the local air currents.

To understand this phenomena we must try to isolate where the force counteracting the inexorable pull of the cats paws toward the earth comes from. Clearly it’s not from the butter - butter falls to the ground if released. Clearly it’s not from the toast as unbuttered toast also falls straight to the ground. Therefore it must be from the Butter-Toast interface producing a repelling force to gravity in the direction 90 degrees away from the surface of the bread.

I postulate that the bread is unnecessary and this is in fact a property that is inherent in butter when it is spread in a thin layer on any object – the surface underneath the butter develops a repelling force to gravity at 90 degrees to its plane in the direction of the butter layer,. The toast is in fact adding unnecessary weight to the set up and the butter should be applied directly to the cat.

I will be able to verify if this theory is correct once I can persuade Mr Tibbles to come down from the tree in the garden.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
Does anyone know if it is safe to give Gravol to a cat?
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
Does anyone know if it is safe to give Gravol to a cat?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465945

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'Dimenhydrinate has successfully been used as an antiemetic and sedative in housepets. It is commonly used to reduce the effects of idiopathic vestibular syndrome. The suggested dosage is 50 mg for dogs (2-4 mg per pound) and 10 mg for cats; duration of effect is 8 hours.'

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

8 hours is plenty of time to butter a cat
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
Will margarine work? Its got omega 3 and everything.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
Hmmmm...Does Margarine or Jelly work too? This could get kinky...

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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
Just trying to answer some basic questions before committing resources. I am supposing some sort of gauze or tape can be used to gently adhere the toast to the cat and does it have to be toasted? Toasting makes the bread rigid making it harder to bind.
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Just trying to answer some basic questions before committing resources. I am supposing some sort of gauze or tape can be used to gently adhere the toast to the cat and does it have to be toasted? Toasting makes the bread rigid making it harder to bind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465945



I would suggest either directly buttering the cat or using G.House's suggestion of an 'undercarriage' mounting allowing you to use the naturally adhesive properties of the buttered side of the toast to stick it to the cat's belly.

Sadly I cannot confirm whether the direct butter method works yet as Mr Tibbles is still up a tree.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
We need for pieces of butter toast, one for each paw.

Possiably five if we put one on its tail for stability.

And the butter side must touch the pads.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
THE BUTTERED TOAST WOULD BE PULLING TO LAND ON THE GROUND, AS THE CAT'S FEET WOULD COUNTER, PULLING THE OPPOSITE WAY, RESULTING IN A HORIZONTALLY DEAD LOCK POSITION AND LANDING ON THE SIDES OF BOTH THE TOAST & THE CAT.

WHO'S THE BEST IN THIS BUSINESS, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


:catoast:
 Quoting: Punisher

Not you!
Cat ALWAYS lands on feet.

Toast ALWAYS lands butterside down.

Hence, they CANNOT land on side.


And hit the caps lock key, dummy.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
THE BUTTERED TOAST WOULD BE PULLING TO LAND ON THE GROUND, AS THE CAT'S FEET WOULD COUNTER, PULLING THE OPPOSITE WAY, RESULTING IN A HORIZONTALLY DEAD LOCK POSITION AND LANDING ON THE SIDES OF BOTH THE TOAST & THE CAT.

WHO'S THE BEST IN THIS BUSINESS, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Punisher


:catoast:
Not you!
Cat ALWAYS lands on feet.

Toast ALWAYS lands butterside down.

Hence, they CANNOT land on side.


And hit the caps lock key, dummy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 453145


If he can't understand why the earths tilt causes the seasons, how do you expect him to fathom the caps lock?

OR

Being a religious fanatic he thinks his every word so friggen important that it totally negates the rules of internet etiquette.
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If he can't understand why the earths tilt causes the seasons, how do you expect him to fathom the caps lock?

OR

Being a religious fanatic he thinks his every word so friggen important that it totally negates the rules of internet etiquette.
 Quoting: G. House


Best I can tell, he's an anti-religious fanatic. He's giving real believers a bad name.
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Re: BUTTERED TOAST & CAT - ANTIGRAVITY. [DEBUNKED]
Having thought some more, and tried a number of practical experiments I believe you theory is incorrect. The cat’s weight is cancelled not through the pull of the buttered side of toast, but the repelling force generated by the unbuttered side. In a perfectly balanced cat-toast system set up as you describe the cat will rotate by 180 degrees whilst hovering in midair then simply float paws up gently bobbing in the local air currents.

To understand this phenomena we must try to isolate where the force counteracting the inexorable pull of the cats paws toward the earth comes from. Clearly it’s not from the butter - butter falls to the ground if released. Clearly it’s not from the toast as unbuttered toast also falls straight to the ground. Therefore it must be from the Butter-Toast interface producing a repelling force to gravity in the direction 90 degrees away from the surface of the bread.

I postulate that the bread is unnecessary and this is in fact a property that is inherent in butter when it is spread in a thin layer on any object – the surface underneath the butter develops a repelling force to gravity at 90 degrees to its plane in the direction of the butter layer,. The toast is in fact adding unnecessary weight to the set up and the butter should be applied directly to the cat.

I will be able to verify if this theory is correct once I can persuade Mr Tibbles to come down from the tree in the garden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980


I think you're onto something here, but the secret is peanut butter! The likelihood that an object with peanut butter on it will land peanut butter side down is twice that of butter (yes, twice infinity!) Peanut butter is also more practical for spreading on a cat's back, as well as having greater adhesive properties than butter. Even if the experiment fails, is would at least be amusing to watch the cat clean off the peanut butter.
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Being a religious fanatic he thinks his every word so friggen important that it totally negates the rules of internet etiquette.
 Quoting: G. House

THESE WORDS ARE IMPORTANT, THESE WORDS WILL REVEAL THE NAME OF THE TRUE MESSIAH, THE SON OF MAN WHO IS IMPORTANT, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN STOP ALL WARS, ALL FAMINES, ALL DISEASES, ALL OPPRESSIONS, ALL!!!!!

TO MANY DIE FOR NOTHING, TIME TO CALL THE TRUE SON OF MAN AND STOP THIS SLAUGHTER, ONLY "HE" HAS THE POWER OF GOD TO DO IT, ONLY "HE" IS THE TRUE SAVIOR, BUT ONLY "HE" HAS NEVER BEEN PRAYED TOO, NEVER BEEN PRAISED OR PETITIONED TO DO SO, SOON, WE WILL KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

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THESE WORDS ARE IMPORTANT, THESE WORDS WILL REVEAL THE NAME OF THE TRUE MESSIAH, THE SON OF MAN WHO IS IMPORTANT, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN STOP ALL WARS, ALL FAMINES, ALL DISEASES, ALL OPPRESSIONS, ALL!!!!!

TO MANY DIE FOR NOTHING, TIME TO CALL THE TRUE SON OF MAN AND STOP THIS SLAUGHTER, ONLY "HE" HAS THE POWER OF GOD TO DO IT, ONLY "HE" IS THE TRUE SAVIOR, BUT ONLY "HE" HAS NEVER BEEN PRAYED TOO, NEVER BEEN PRAISED OR PETITIONED TO DO SO, SOON, WE WILL KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

NAME OF THE SON OF MAN WILL BE REVEALED SOON, OUR MESSIAH, THE SAVIOR!!!!!!
NAME OF THE SON OF MAN WILL BE REVEALED SOON, OUR MESSIAH, THE SAVIOR!!!!!!
NAME OF THE SON OF MAN WILL BE REVEALED SOON, OUR MESSIAH, THE SAVIOR!!!!!!
NAME OF THE SON OF MAN WILL BE REVEALED SOON, OUR MESSIAH, THE SAVIOR!!!!!!
NAME OF THE SON OF MAN WILL BE REVEALED SOON, OUR MESSIAH, THE SAVIOR!!!!!!
NAME OF THE SON OF MAN WILL BE REVEALED SOON, OUR MESSIAH, THE SAVIOR!!!!!!
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 Quoting: Punisher


If this is a plug for Obama, I will be very annoyed.
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