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THE BIBLE CONTRADICTS ITSELF - EXAMPLE #2: THE CALLING OF PETER

 
The Professor
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THE BIBLE CONTRADICTS ITSELF - EXAMPLE #2: THE CALLING OF PETER
Peter was Christ’s very first disciple, and one of the most influential figures in all of Christian history. Certainly, you would expect the Bible to give a complete and reliable account of how Peter was called into the ministry. However, you will be disappointed because the Bible gives no such account but offers instead multiple accounts which are in such obvious conflict that the true nature of Peter’s calling can never be known. You will see the conflict as you examine the various conflicting accounts. Here they are:

HOW PETER WAS CALLED ACCORDING TO MATTHEW

“And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. And they straightway left their nets, and followed him. And going on from thence, he saw other two brethren, James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, in a ship with Zebedee their father, mending their nets; and he called them. And they immediately left the ship and their father, and followed him.”
Matthew 4:18-22

HOW PETER WAS CALLED ACCORDING TO MARK

“Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men. And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him. And when he had gone a little further thence, he saw James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, who also were in the ship mending their nets. And straightway he called them: and they left their father Zebedee in the ship with the hired servants, and went after him.”
Mark 1:16-20

The story told by Mark is almost identical to that told by Matthew, the only difference being the words Christ used to call Peter and Andrew. In Matthew, Christ says, “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men;” whereas in Mark, He says, “Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.” This difference, however slight, proves that biblical quotations cannot be trusted.

HOW PETER WAS CALLED ACCORDING TO LUKE

"And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret, And saw two ships standing by the lake: but the fishermen were gone out of them, and were washing their nets. And he entered into one of the ships, which was Simon's, and prayed him that he would thrust out a little from the land. And he sat down, and taught the people out of the ship.

Now when he had left speaking, he said unto Simon, Launch out into the deep, and let down your nets for a draught. And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down the net.
And when they had this done, they inclosed a great multitude of fishes: and their net brake.
And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.

When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. For he was astonished, and all that were with him, at the draught of the fishes which they had taken: And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners with Simon. And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men. And when they had brought their ships to land, they forsook all, and followed him."

Luke 5:1-11

As you can see, the story told by Luke is completely different from the accounts given by Matthew and Mark, so different that both stories cannot possibly be true. But before you decide which one is true, I have to tell you that there is yet another version of Peter’s calling, and this one does not have Christ walking along the sea of Galilee, or being on a boat when He first encounters Peter. No, in the last version, Andrew (Peter’s Brother) followed Christ home, and then, after spending the night with Christ, went back to town and brought Peter to Christ. I am not making this stuff up. Read on.

HOW PETER WAS CALLED ACCORDING TO JOHN


“John [speaking while baptizing at the Jordon] answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose. These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God! And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus. Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, which is to say, being interpreted, Master, where dwellest thou? He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour.

One of the two which heard John speak, and followed him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother. He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ. And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone . The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me.”

John 1:26-43

The story told by John is completely at odds with the stories told by Matthew and Luke. It is completely impossible to reconcile the multiple conflicting versions. The discrepancies are so great that they cannot be excused as being merely “different perspectives.” These accounts are clearly fraudulent, and forever discredit anything said by the authors of either Matthew, Mark, Luke or John.

Note: There is another problem, not directly related to Peter. In the story told by John, there is no mention of James and John, the sons of Zebedee, which is another fatal mistake since John directly contradicts Matthew, Mark and Luke who have the four disciples, Peter, Andrew, James and John called at the same time (Luke) or within moments of each other (Matthew and Mark).

Well, there you have it my dear readers: four contradictory accounts of Peter’s calling. But there is another major problem which must be addressed. The four Gospels disagree on HOW Peter was called, and there is another conflict regarding WHEN Peter was called.

WHEN PETER WAS CALLED ACCORDING TO MATTHEW, MARK, AND LUKE

According to the Synoptic (Matthew, Mark and Luke, IMMEDIATELY after Christ’s baptism in the Jordon, He was lead into the wilderness where He fasted for 40 days being tempted of the devil. Christ did not call Peter until after the 40 day temptation plus an undetermined period of preaching. However, according to John, Peter was called exactly two days after Christ’s baptism. The following verses prove that Christ went to the wilderness for 40 days IMMEDIATELY after His baptism:

“And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness. And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.”
Mark 1:9-13

WHEN PETER WAS CALLED ACCORDING TO JOHN

However, the versus from John, already shown above, prove that the day after Christ’s appearance before John the Baptist, Andrew followed Him home and spent the night with Him. The very next day, exactly two days after Christ’s baptism, Andrew went back to town and brought Peter to Christ. So there are multiple irreconcilable contradictions in the Bible regarding how and when Peter was called by Christ.

I said it before, and I will say it again: THOSE WHO SAY THERE ARE NO ERRORS OR CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE HAVE NEVER READ IT!!

I am patiently waiting to see the mental gymnastics of the fundamentalist who will rush to defend the compilation of errors, contradiction and confusion known as the Bible.

I will give my critics the last shot.
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Re: THE BIBLE CONTRADICTS ITSELF - EXAMPLE #2: THE CALLING OF PETER
Those aren't contradictions. those are various differences of opinion as to the events, and how they took place. That is why we have a synopsis of the gospels to decided for ourselves the course of events. This is by far a weak and ignorant argument that does not prove anything but a biased opinion of faithlessness willing to nit pick over any little detail to justify your own sense of self vindication. If you are a professor, you are by far the most ignorant one I have ever encountered, void of any common sense.
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Re: THE BIBLE CONTRADICTS ITSELF - EXAMPLE #2: THE CALLING OF PETER
... but but and but... and really, lol, what would ya expect from a bunch of guys who J.C. himself said didn't even have the faith of a mustard seed.
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Re: THE BIBLE CONTRADICTS ITSELF - EXAMPLE #2: THE CALLING OF PETER
To OP:

You need a more complete knowledge and understanding of the legal definition of admissable documentary evidence, of which the New Testament writings purport to be.

There is not one court of law in the land which would accept eyewitness accounts of the same event as seen through the eyes of separate witnesses if those accounts were word-for-word identical to one another.

Note that I am not speaking here of word-for-word copies of an original, which is an entirely different matter.

It is precisely a uniqueness of personality, character, literary style, and usage of grammar that distinguishes one eyewitness and his/her account from another and helps to filter out forgeries.

Differing eyewitness accounts also help establish a believability factor and form a synoptic interrelationship between testimonials that makes for a stronger case.

Use a marketing example that is quite common on the Internet these days: customer testimonials.

What if a product sales page printed, say, 11 customer testimonials about that product and each one of those 11 testimonials were word-for-word identical to the rest? Would you believe their testimonies? If you would, then have I got a deal for you!

One would expect that four separate accounts of the same event as seen through the eyes of four separate individuals would have four ways of seeing and recording the same event using four different recollections of memory, four different ways of truncating words, four different views of what words needed to be included and in what order, four different views of what words were rendundant to the direction taken by the writer, and four different literary styles used in presentation.

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