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Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win'
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Anonymous Coward
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7/15/2008 12:46 PM
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[link to ap.google.com]
By GLEN JOHNSON – 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Contending that the U.S. is not pursuing a sound strategy for keeping Americans safe, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Tuesday that fighting al-Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan would be his top priority after ending the war in Iraq.
"This is a war that we have to win," Obama said in remarks prepared for delivery at the International Trade Center in Washington.
In a major speech on Iran and national security, Obama said he would also secure nuclear weapons and materials from terrorists and rogue nations, achieve "true energy security," and rebuild the nation's international alliances.
The speech sets the stage for Obama's upcoming visit to Iraq and offers a high-profile explanation of his opposition to the war and his pledge to complete a U.S. troop pullout within 16 months of becoming president. It also gives him a forum for criticizing President Bush and his rival for the presidency, Republican John McCain.
"By any measure, our single-minded and open-ended focus on Iraq is not a sound strategy for keeping America safe," Obama said. "In fact — as should have been apparent to President Bush and Sen. McCain — the central front in the war on terror is not Iraq, and it never was."
In a White House news conference shortly before Obama was to speak, a reporter asked President Bush what advice he might give Obama as he prepared to visit Iraq. The president said he would ask Obama to listen carefully to Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander, and U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker.
"It's a temptation to let the politics at home get in the way, you know, with the considered judgment of the commanders," Bush said. He defended his policy and maintained that the effort in Iraq was succeeding and acknowledged that the war in Afghanistan remained "a tough fight."
Obama said the Bush strategy that McCain supports has placed the burden for U.S. foreign policy on American military. National security policy should go well beyond Baghdad, he said, and involve allies around the world. He focused on Afghanistan and Pakistan, saying that if the U.S. were attacked again, it likely would be from the same region where the Sept. 11 attacks were planned.
"Sen. McCain said — just months ago — that Afghanistan is not in trouble because of our diversion to Iraq. I could not disagree more. Our troops and our NATO allies are performing heroically in Afghanistan, but I have argued for years that we lack the resources to finish the job because of our commitment to Iraq," Obama said.
Later in the day, Obama was expected to conduct a series of television interviews to bolster his remarks.
McCain planned to respond during a town-hall meeting in Albuquerque, N.M., but his staff released his remarks before the event.
"Sen. Obama is departing soon on a trip abroad that will include a fact-finding mission to Iraq and Afghanistan," according to McCain. "And I note that he is speaking today about his plans for Iraq and Afghanistan before he has even left, before he has talked to General Petraeus, before he has seen the progress in Iraq, and before he has set foot in Afghanistan for the first time. In my experience, fact-finding missions usually work best the other way around: First you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy."
Meanwhile, the New York Daily News reported that the Obama campaign altered its Web site to remove a statement that Bush's surge of troops in Iraq "is not working." Over the weekend, the site was changed to describe an "improved security situation" at the cost of U.S. lives.
Campaign aide Wendy Morigi told the newspaper that Obama is "not softening his criticism of the surge. We regularly update the Web site to reflect changes in current events."
The flurry of activity comes a day after an Obama op-ed piece in the New York Times that called for the additional Afghanistan brigades and argued the U.S. faces a growing threat from a resurgent al-Qaida in Afghanistan.
McCain planned an address Thursday focused on Afghanistan. Nine U.S. soldiers were killed and 14 injured in a militant attack Sunday, the military's highest death toll there in three years.
While he has accused Obama of favoring surrender in Iraq by outlining a troop withdrawal timetable, McCain told reporters on Monday, "I think we need to do whatever is necessary (in Afghanistan) and that could entail more troops."
Obama, a freshman senator from Illinois, has visited Iraq only once and has never been to Afghanistan. He plans to visit both during a trip that will also take him to Jordan and Israel in the Middle East, as well as European capitals in Germany, France and Great Britain.
He will be accompanied on the trip by Sens. Chuck Hagel and Jack Reed. Hagel, a Nebraska Republican, is a Vietnam War veteran, while Reed is a West Point graduate and former Army Ranger. Both have been mentioned as possible Obama vice presidential running mates.
McCain, an Arizona senator and former Vietnam prisoner of war, has lambasted Obama for his lack of travel in the region and for not meeting in Iraq with the top U.S. commander, Army Gen. David Petraeus.
Obama has been trumpeting the fact that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said last week his country wants some type of timetable for a withdrawal of American forces included in a deal needed to keep U.S. troops in Iraq after a U.N. mandate expires at year's end.
Bush opposes a withdrawal timetable, arguing it will embolden insurgents and prompt them to lay in wait for a U.S. departure.
SO MUCH FOR YOUR "ANTI-WAR" CANDIDATE!
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LouisWinthorpeIII 
Self apointed knowitall
User ID: 384893
7/15/2008 12:47 PM
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SO MUCH FOR YOUR "ANTI-WAR" CANDIDATE!
Indeed, both he & McCain represent 1.8% of the popular vote.
Funny, isn't it?
Manipulated is what I call it.
Findout when the NWO says you should die!
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Reality is BS
User ID: 466336
7/15/2008 12:48 PM
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Oh I'm so surprised, another politician who can't tell the truth. Obama is controlled by the Illuminati he is only a puppet. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468604 (OP)
7/15/2008 12:57 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Afghanistan, then on to Pakistan, which should get China riled up nicely. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 281483
7/15/2008 12:59 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Obama has never been an anti-war candidate.
He's been anti-STUPID war, in which he warned that the invasion of Iraq was not being well thought out. HE WAS CORRECT.
He has ALWAYS been for going after Al-Qaeda...
So instead of wasting our fucking time in Iraq, he'll actually go after Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.
Whatchoo talking about, OP? |
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ryline
User ID: 468634
7/15/2008 1:02 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Yes don't forget that afghanistan is just "Drugs" |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468636
7/15/2008 1:06 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
I heard a lot of New world this and new world that.....and something about peace and security... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 419558
7/15/2008 1:09 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Obama has a clue about how to avoid a terrorist attack from Al Queda by cleaning up their strongholds. Guess what? They are not in Iraq! duh....
You can find the link for this:
Bush Gave Taliban $43 Million Four Months before 9/11
Mon Jul 14th 2008, 09:32 PM
As Barack Obama begins the effort of turning America�s attention toward the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan--and as American soldiers die at the hands of Taliban militants in numbers never before seen
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Obama targets Pakistan with new anti-terror policy
6 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) — White House hopeful Barack Obama Tuesday promised to shift the "single-minded" US focus on Iraq to a threatening "terrorist sanctuary" in tribal Pakistan, in a broad new blueprint for US foreign policy.
Setting the stage for a major foreign tour designed to bolster his commander-in-chief credentials, Obama called for tough, principled US diplomacy, rooted in his vow to get most US troops home from Iraq in 16 months.
He promised to make Iraqis provide for their own security, to strike at Al-Qaeda in Pakistan if Islamabad would not, to secure loose nuclear weapons, combat climate change and end the "tyranny" of US reliance on foreign oil.
"Iraq is not going to be a perfect place, and we don't have unlimited resources to try to make it one," Obama said in the speech in Washington.
"I will give our military a new mission on my first day in office: ending this war," Obama said, ahead of an expected visit to Iraq and Afghanistan soon, and talks with the leaders of European powers, Israel and Jordan.
Obama's Republican opponent, Senator John McCain argues that Obama would squander gains from last year's troop surge strategy by withdrawing troops, and accuses the Democrat of having a closed mind on Iraq strategy.
But Obama, who also promised to use diplomacy to end Iran's nuclear program and renew US alliances, promised to switch the focus of US military action overseas from Iraq, to Afghanistan and Pakistan. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468604 (OP)
7/15/2008 1:12 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Bush Gave Taliban $43 Million Four Months before 9/11 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 419558
When did Bush enter the race for a 3rd term? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5174
7/15/2008 1:15 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
COME THE FUCK ON, STOP IT ALREADY.
THERE IS NO ALQAEDA ANYMORE THAN THERE IS A CHAOS, IT'S FICTION. HOW WILLFULLY IGNORANT CAN SOMEONE BE TO CLING TO THAT THREADBARE FUCKING BULLSHIT STORY.
THIS IS PATHETIC, THAT THE TWO FINALISTS IN DANCING WITH THE CANDIDATES TROT OUT GOLDMAN EVERY TIME THEIR SCAMPER ON STAGE FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR AIPAC CONTROLLERS AND TO ELICIT APPLAUSE FROM GUYS IN HOT DOG VENDOR HATS WITH AMERICAN FLAGS STUCK TO THEM.. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448859
7/15/2008 1:29 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
He starts sounding like Bush...d'ough! :-) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468604 (OP)
7/15/2008 1:32 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
He starts sounding like Bush...d'ough! :-) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 448859
They all answer to the same handlers. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468604 (OP)
7/15/2008 1:56 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Quote from Obama's latet campaign ad.
"The single most important national security threat that we face is nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists."
[link to thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com] |
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Sinanju
User ID: 466508
7/15/2008 2:00 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Quote from Obama's latet campaign ad.
"The single most important national security threat that we face is nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists."
[ link to thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com]
>>>MUHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! So WONDERFUL! I love it! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468604 (OP)
7/15/2008 5:58 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
b |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422489
7/15/2008 6:12 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
I guess he wants to keep the drugs running. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468604 (OP)
7/15/2008 6:13 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
I guess he wants to keep the drugs running. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422489
Oh yeah, lots and lots of Black Ops still need to be funded. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
7/15/2008 6:23 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
I guess he wants to keep the drugs running.
Oh yeah, lots and lots of Black Ops still need to be funded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 468604
Exactly. Herion traffic is way up and needs proper managing. Then there's the oil pipeline.
Obama answers to the puppet master, Brezinski, the same person who engineered the creation of Al Qaeda when he got the US to fund the Mujahadeen (Taliban and Bin Laden). He said he wanted to draw the USSR into a war in Afghanistan by creating Islamic terror and give the USSR "Their Vietnam". |
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Matrix
User ID: 461701
7/15/2008 6:27 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
The Afghan war in the 80's did much to bring on economic hardship and chaos to the former commie super power, and now its America's turn to take it up the arse and also become a former super power. No matter who you vote for your economy is doomed, doomed! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468791
7/15/2008 6:47 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Quote from Obama's latet campaign ad.
"The single most important national security threat that we face is nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists."
[ link to thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com]
But Obama! The Jews already HAVE nukuleer weapons! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468848
7/15/2008 8:28 PM | | Re: Obama says Afghanistan 'a war that we have to win' | Quote |
Obama is consistent in contradicting himself
Urban Dictionary: pathalogical liar
A Pathalogical Liar will even continue to repeatedly tell lies, EVEN after the fact that they DONT DO IT WELL, is pointed out to them time and time again. ...
1. pathalogical liar
A person who lies so often, they start to believe that if they say it then it must be true. And they expect everyone else to believe them as well.
Obama is just a typical politician saying anything to get elected.
Meaning not one single word of what he says in most instances.
Just telling us rubes whatever he thinks we want to hear.
His NWO handlers tell him what lies to tell us and he does so like a Harvard graduate trained to manipulate the truth like a lawyer and lie like a brutha from the hood.
>A pathological liar is someone who often embellishes his or her stories in a way that he or she believes will impress people. Some think a pathological liar is different from a normal liar in that a pathological liar believes the lie he or she is telling to be true �at least in public� and is "playing" the role. It is not clear, however, that this is the case, and others hold that pathological liars know precisely what they are doing. Making up stories and at the same time believing them is known as confabulation. The term "pathological liar" is not an official clinical diagnosis however most psychiatrists agree that pathological lying is often the result of a mental disorder or low self-esteem. <
Like Obama's lie that his parents conceived him after the Selma march (he was born years before that march)
or his lie about an uncle liberating auschwitz
or his lie about an article in ebony
or his lie about...
or his lie about...
google search for Obama lies turns up all these and hundreds more
Obama lies
Obama lies and believes his lies become truth by passing through his holy lips |
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