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Any decendant's of the Dragon Queen of Anjou

 
FAN OF THE MERMAIDS
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FULQUE = FALCON

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MELUSINE/MELISENDE HAD NO CONTROL OVER WHO SHE WAS MARRIED OFF TO WITHIN THE FRENCH ARISTOCRACY. THE SAME GOES FOR LEGENDS ABOUT FLYING DRAGONS

WHAT SOME WOULD CALL A 'DRAGONQUEEN' IS A MISINTERPRETAION OF 'MERMAID QUEEN'. ONE IS A REPTILE. THE OTHER A MAMMAL.

LIKE THE DAUPHINS. "DOLPHINS". GET IT?

SEE: ST. CLAIRS AND QUEEN OF HEARTS IF YE DOUBT ME...;>)))
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FULQUE = FALCON

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MELUSINE/MELISENDE HAD NO CONTROL OVER WHO SHE WAS MARRIED OFF TO WITHIN THE FRENCH ARISTOCRACY. THE SAME GOES FOR LEGENDS ABOUT FLYING DRAGONS

WHAT SOME WOULD CALL A 'DRAGONQUEEN' IS A MISINTERPRETAION OF 'MERMAID QUEEN'. ONE IS A REPTILE. THE OTHER A MAMMAL.

LIKE THE DAUPHINS. "DOLPHINS". GET IT?

SEE: ST. CLAIRS AND QUEEN OF HEARTS IF YE DOUBT ME...;>)))
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I get it! Thank you for popping in with these little tid bits.
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Proud of being Finnish. hf

Why? Are you ready for this?


Because the Viking kings originated from Finland (Kvenland). Dudes from here went to establish thrones in Norway and Denmark. The vikings then went to Britain, founding the throne there. We're all descendants of the royal bloodline, although very very very distant relation.

All this is not taught in school, because of TPTB have censored all details. Total allegiance to TPTB is facilitated with the same kind of veil of darkness like the whole of mankind is covered up with. We don't remember our divine heritage. Well, the veils are starting to deteriorate, and more and more of our ancestry is being uncovered.


FUCK THE POWERS THAT BE!



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By end of 10th century Orkneyinga- and Hversu Noregr bygdistí sagas are saying that Finland and Kvenland were some kind of base Kingdom for whole Nordic, from where the Royal Houses of Norway and Denmark were established. Those sagas also mention that from Finland were sent many Kings and Queens to rule, especially many Queens in Sweden came from Finland.

The family tree of Finnish Kings is presented with more details in a introduction of Orkneyinga saga (Fundinn Noregur) starting from the King Fornjotr (the giant), but the Scandinavian historians (including some Finnish) are constantly dismissing these as a mythical information, not historical (same time downgrading the sagas as a historical sources).

The Germanic literature contains mentions of Finnish from year 600; the oldest source is Widsith, which lists of Kings in an era of Tribal movement between 4th – 5th century. There is an entry: Caesare weold Graecum, ond Caelic Finnum, (the ceasar ruled Greeks and Caelic finns). Academic Kustaa Vilkkuna concluded that “Caelic” is a word of Kaleva with gothic –ic (-ik) ending. (Carelia, Karjala, Kaleva, Kalev. Kalik, Caelic).

A Danish researcher Gudmund Schütte argues that the Finnish Egther Fynnens mentioned in Saxo Grammaticus is the father of Beowulf (hero); Ecgtheow. And surprisingly this name is found from Finnish folklore, in Väinämöisen tuomio (Väinämöinen’s judgment): Syntyi poika Poimarissa (Paimio) Emo kutsui Ehtaroksi (=Egther Fynnensis?)… Iso kutsui Ismoriksi, Emo Ehtoopoiaksehen. – Ehtoo-Ehtaro, which was made a king of Paimio, could be the finn mentioned in Saxo Grammiticus, Egther Fynnensis and also as in the Beowulf-saga’s Ecgtheow that was Beowulf’s father. Ecgtheow was from waegmudingas family, compare to Finnish Osmo-Osmoinen Scandinavian version Osmund.

Could it be that Väinö-Väinämöinen’s Scandinavian spelling is Waegmund, which is spelled Wäimund, if it so, Ecgtheow from Beowulf was related to Väinämöinen family, and therefore, he was Väinöläinen. That surename has been mentioned in literature up till 1400 in Masku (Finland).

The best sources of Finnish Kings are Icelandic sagas (Orkneyinga-, Historia Neorwegiae-, Hversu Noregr bygditz-, Egil-, Ynglinga-, Kettil Haengrin- and Bardr) from 11th – 13th century. The sagas are telling Scandinavian and Germanic historical happenings including Finnish Kings. All the sources counted together Finnish and Kvenish Kings are mentioned thirty times.


Descendency Chart for of Kvenland Family

0. King Fornjotor of Kvenland - was born about 0160, lived in Finland. He had a child named King Kari Fornjotsson In Kvenland

1. King Kari Fornjotsson In Kvenland - was born about 0185, lived in Finland. He had a child named King Frosti Karasson In Kvenland

2. King Frosti Karasson In Kvenland - was born about 0210, lived in Finland. He had a child named Jokull Frostasson

3. Jokull Frostasson - was born about 0240, lived in Finland. One of his 2 children was King in Kvenland Snaer Jokulsson

4. King in Kvenland Snaer Jokulsson - also known as: Svaer - He had a child named King in Knevland Thorri Snaerrsson

5. King in Knevland Thorri Snaerrsson - was born about 0320, lived in Raumsdal, Norway. He had a child named Gor Thorrarsson

6. Gor Thorrarsson - was born about 0365, lived in Raumsdal, Norway. He had a child named Heytir Gorrsson

7. Heytir Gorrsson - was born about 0425, lived in Raumsdal, Norway. He had a child named Svidri Heytsson

8. Svidri Heytsson - was born about 0600, lived in Norway. He had a child named Sveidi "the Sea King" Svidrasson

9. Sveidi "the Sea King" Svidrasson - also known as: Sveithi - was born about 0650, lived in Raumsdal, Norway. He had a child named Halfdan "the Aged" Sveidasson

10. Halfdan "the Aged" Sveidasson - was born about 0700, lived in Oppland, Norway. He had a child named Ivar Halfdansson

11. Ivar Halfdansson - was born about 0770, lived in Oppland, Norway. He married Daughter of Eistein about 0824 while living in Oppland, Norway. Daughter was born about 0785, lived in Trondheim, Norway. She is the daughter of Eystein Hognasson and Aseda Rognyaldsson. They had a child named Eystein Ivarsson

12. Eystein Ivarsson - also known as: Glumra - was born about 0800, lived in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway. He married Countess Of Oppland Ascrida Rognvaldsdatter about 0846 while living in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway. Countess Of Oppland Ascrida was born about 0804, lived in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway. She was the daughter of Rognavald Olafsson. She died about 0890 in Maer,Norway . One of their 3 children was Earl Ragnvald "The Wise" Eysteinsson

13. Earl Ragnvald "The Wise" Eysteinsson - also known as: Earl of More and Romsdal - was born about 0830 in Maer, More Og Romsdal, Norway and died in 0890 in Maer, Norway . He married Countess of More Ragnhild Hrolfsson about 0853. Countess of More Ragnhild was born about 0848 in Norway. She is the daughter of Hrolf Nefia. They had a child named Count Rollo "The Dane" Rognvaldsson

14. Count Rollo "The Dane" Rognvaldsson - was born about 0846 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway and died about 0932 in Notre Dame, Rouen, Normandy, France . He married Duchess Poppa de Normandie after 0920. Duchess Poppa was born about 0872, lived in Evreux, Nuestria. She was the daughter of Gui Senlis and Mlle de Vermandois. She died in 0931 . One of their 2 children was Duke Guillaume I de Normandie

15. Duke Guillaume I de Normandie - also known as: Longue Epbee - was born about 0900, lived in Normandy, France and died on 17 Dec 0942 in France . He married Sprote de Bretagne about 0932 while living in Normandy, France. Sprote was born about 0911 in Bretagne, France. She is the daughter of Count Hubert of Senlis. They had a child named Duke Richard I de Normandie

16. Duke Richard I de Normandie - also known as: Sans Peur - was born on 28 Aug 0933, lived in Fecamp, Normandie, France and died on 20 Nov 0996 while living in Fecamp, Normandie, France . As one of his 2 wives, he married Gunnor de Crepon after 0962 in France. Gunnor was born about 0936 in Normandy, France. She was the daughter of King Harald Gormsson "Blaatand (Bluetooth)" of Denmark I and Queen Gyrithe (Cyrid) Olafsdotter. She died in 1031 in France . One of their 3 children was Duke Richard II "The Good" de Normandie

17. Duke Richard II "The Good" de Normandie - also known as: The Good - was born about 0963 in Normandy, France and died on 28 Aug 1027 in Fecamp, Normandie, France . As one of his 2 wives, he married Judith de Bretagne about 1000 in Normandy, France. Judith was born in 0982, lived in Bretagne, France. She was the daughter of Duke Conan I of Bretagne and Ermangarde D'Anjou. She died on 16 Jun 1017 while living in Normandy, France . One of their 4 children was Duke Robert I "The Magnificent" de Normandie

18. Duke Robert I "The Magnificent" de Normandie - was born about 1003 in Normandy, France and died on 22 Jul 1035 in Nicea, Bithynia, Turkey . He married Herleva de Falaise about 1023 in Not Married. Herleva was born about 1003 in Falaise, Clavados, France. She was the daughter of Fulbert de Falaise and Doda of Falaise. She died in 1050 . One of their 2 children was King Guillaume "Le Conquerant" de Normandie

19. King Guillaume "Le Conquerant" de Normandie - also known as: Willam The Conqueror - was born on 14 Oct 1024 in Falaise, Calvados, Normandy, France and died on 9 Sep 1087 in Hemmenbraville, Rouen, Normandie and was buried in Abbey of St. Stephen, Caen, France . He married Queen Matilda van Vlaanderen in 1053. Queen Matilda was born about 1031, lived in Flandres. She was the daughter of Count Badouin V of Flanders and Countess Adele of France. She died on 2 Nov 1083 in Caen, France . One of their 3 children was King Henry I "Beauclerc" of England

20. King Henry I "Beauclerc" of England - was born in 1068 in Shelby, Yorkshire, England and died Dec 1135 in St. Denis, Seine-St.Denis, France and was buried in Reading Abbey, Berkshire, England . As one of his 3 wives, he married Princess Matilda of Scotland on 11 Nov 1100 in England. Princess Matilda was born about 1070/1080 in Dunfermine, Fifeshire, Scotland. She was the daughter of King Malcolm III "Ceanmor (Longneck)" of Scotland and Queen Margaret of Scotland. She died on 1 May 1118 in Westminster, Middlesex, England . One of their 2 children was Queen Matilda

21. Queen Matilda - was born in 1104 in Middlesex, England and died on 10 Sep 1169 in Abbey of Notre Dame des Prés, Rouen and was buried in Fontevraud Abbey, Anjou, France . She married Count Geoffrey V "le Bon" - "The Handsome" Plantagenet on 22 May 1128 in Le Mans Cathedral, Anjou. Count Geoffrey was born on 24 Aug 1113 in Anjou, France. He was the son of Count Fouiques V of Anjou and Ermengarde Du Maine. He died on 7 Sep 1151 in Chateau, France and was buried in Mans, St. Julian's Church . They had a child named King Henry II "Curtmantle" Plantagenet

22. King Henry II "Curtmantle" Plantagenet - was born on 5 Mar 1132 in Sarthe, France and died on 3 Jul 1189 in Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, France and was buried on 19 Dec 1154 in Westminster Abbey, London, England. As one of his 2 wives, he married Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine on 18 May 1152 in Bordeaux, Gironde, France. Queen Eleanor was born in 1123 in Chateau De Belin, Bordeaux, Aquitaine. She was the daughter of Duke Guillaume X of Aquitaine and Eleanor de Chatellerault. She died on 31 Mar 1204 in Poitiers, Poitou, Aquitaine . One of their 9 children was Princess Eleanor of England

23. Princess Eleanor of England - was born on 13 Oct 1162 in Las Huelgas, Burgos, Burgos, Spain and died on 25 Oct 1214 in Las Huelgas, Burgos, Burgos, Spain and was buried in Las Huelgas, Castile, Spain . She married King Alfonso VIII Sanchez "The Noble" of Castile on 22 Sep 1177 in Burgos, Burgos, Castile. King Alfonso was born on 11 Nov 1155 in Soria, Castile. He was the son of King Sancho III Alfonsez "The Desired" of Castile and Princess Blanca of Navarre. He died on 6 Oct 1214 in Gutierre Munoz, Avila, Castile . One of their 2 children was Queen Berengeula of Castile

24. Queen Berengeula of Castile - was born Jan/Jun 1180 in Burgos, Burgos, Castile and died on 8 Nov 1246 in Burgos, Burgos, Castile . She married King Alfonso IX Fernandez of Leon and Castile Dec 1197 (annulled) in Valladolid, Valladolid, Spain. King Alfonso was born on 15 Aug 1171 in Zamora, Leon, Spain. He was the son of King Fernando II Alfonez of Leon and Queen Urraca Affonsez Leon. He died on 24 Sep 1230 in Villaneuva De Sarria, Lugo, spain . One of their 2 children was King Fernando III "The Saint" of Castile and Leon

25. King Fernando III "The Saint" of Castile and Leon - was born on 5/10 Aug 1201 in Leon, Leon, Spain and died on 30 May 1252 in Sevilla, Sevilla, Spain . He married Jeanne de Dammartin in 1237 in Burgos, Burgos, spain. Jeanne was born about 1216 in Dammartin, France. She was the daughter of Count Simon II de Dammartin and Countess Marie of Ponthieu & Montreuil. She died on 15 Mar 1279 in Abbeville, France . They had a child named Princess Leonor of Castile and Leon

26. Princess Leonor of Castile and Leon - was born in 1244, lived in Burgos, Burgos, Spain and died on 29 Nov 1290 in Herdeby, Lincolnshire, England . She married King Edward I "Longshanks" Plantagenet on 18 Oct 1254 in Burgos, Burgos, Spain. King Edward was born on 17 Jun 1239 in Westminster, London, England. He was the son of King Henry III Plantagenet and Eleanor Berenger de Provence. He died on 8 Jul 1307 in Burgh-On-The-Sands, Cumberland, England . One of their 3 children was Princess Elizabeth of England

27. Princess Elizabeth of England - was born on 7 Aug 1282 in Rhuddlan Castle, Flintshire, Wales and died on 5 May 1316 in Quendon, Essex, England . She married Humphrey de Bohun VIII on 14 Nov 1302 in Westminster Abbey, London, England. Humphrey was born about 1276 in Pleshy Castle, Essex, England.. He was the son of Humphrey de Bohun VII and Maud de Fiennes. He died on 16 Mar 1321 in Battle of Boroughbridge, Yorkshire . One of their 4 children was Aeneas de Bohun

28. Aeneas de Bohun - was born about 1314 in Caldecot, Northampton, England and died about 1343 . She married Robert de Ferrers. Robert was born on 25 Mar 1309 in Chartley, Straffordshire, England. He was the son of Sir John de Ferrers and Hawise de Muscegros. He died on 28 Aug 1350 . One of their 2 children was Baron Robert de Ferrers

29. Baron Robert de Ferrers - died on 31 Dec 1380 . He married Elizabeth le Boteler. Elizabeth was born about 1345. She was the daughter of Baron William le Boteler IV and Joan de Sudeley. She died on 19 Jun 1410 . One of their 2 children was Lord Robert Ferrers

30. Lord Robert Ferrers - was born about 1370, lived in Chartley,Stafford,England and died before 29 Nov 1396 . He married Countess Joan de Beaufort about 1392. Countess Joan was born on 29 Jan 1374/1375 in Beaufort Castle, Anjon, France. She was the daughter of Duke John of Gaunt and Catherine de Roet. She died on 13 Nov 1440 in Howden, Yorkshire, England . One of their 2 children was Elizabeth Ferrers
31. Elizabeth Ferrers - was born about 1393, lived in Chartley, Staffordshire, England and died about 1434 in York, Yorkshire, England . She married John Greystoke on 28 Oct 1407. John was born in 1389 in Owesley, Yorkshire, England. He died on 8 Aug 1436 in Northamptonshire, England and was buried in Greystoke, Northumberland, England . They had a child named Ralph Greystoke

32. Ralph Greystoke - was born in 1408, lived in Geystoke manor, Northumberland, England and died on 1 Jun 1487 in Kirkham, Northumberland, England . He married Elizabeth FitzHugh. Elizabeth was born about 1409 in Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England. She was the daughter of Baron Henry FitzHugh and Elizabeth Grey. She died on 20 Mar 1468 in Greystoke, Northumberland, England . They had a child named Joan Greystoke

33. Joan Greystoke - was born in 1428 in Greystoke, Northumberland, England. She married William Bowes about 1415 in Durham, England. William was born about 1379 in Durham, England. He was the son of Sir Robert Bowes and Joan Conyers. He died in 1465 in Streatlam, Durham, England . They had a child named Williiam Bowes

34. Williiam Bowes - was born in 1446 in Streatlam Castle, Durham, England and died in 1466 in Streatlam, Durham, England . He married Maud FitzhHugh. Maud was born about 1446 in Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England. She is the daughter of William FitzHugh and Margaret Willoughby. They had a child named Ralph Bowes

35. Ralph Bowes - was born on 1 Sep 1468 in Streatlam, Durham, England and died before 3 Jul 1482 in Streatlam, Durham, England . He married Margaret Conyers. Margaret was born about 1470 in Cowton South, Yorkshire, England. She was the daughter of Sir Richard Conyers and Alice Wycliffe. She died on 12 Aug 1532 . One of their 2 children was Richard Bowes

36. Richard Bowes - was born about 1497, lived in Streatlam, Durham, England and died on 10 Apr 1558 . He married Elizabeth Aske in 1521. Elizabeth was born in 1505. She was the daughter of Roger Aske and Margaret Wycliffe. She died in 1568 . One of their 4 children was Ralph Bowes

37. Ralph Bowes - was born about 1529, lived in Streatlam, Durham, England. He married Elizabeth Clifford about 1509. Elizabeth was born about 1490, lived in Yorkshire, England. They had a child named Margery Bowes

38. Margery Bowes - was born about 1514 in Yorkshire, England. She married Ralph Eure about 1527. Ralph was born on 24 Sep 1508 in Mitton, Yorks, England. He died on 6 Mar 1544/1545 . They had a child named William Eure

39. William Eure - was born about 1533 in Mitton, Yorks, England and died on 12 Feb 1593/1594 and was buried in Ingleby, Yorkshire, England . He married Margaret Dymoke before 1558. Margaret was born about 1529 in Scrivelsby, Lincoln, England. She was buried on 15 Sep 1591 in Ingleby, Yorkshire, EnglandThey had a child named Muriel Eure

40. Muriel Eure - was born in 1557 in Ribston, Yorkshire, England. She married Richard Goodricke Jr on 4 Nov 1578 in Ingleby, Yorkshire, England. Richard was born about 1550 in Ribston, Yorkshire, England. He was the son of Richard Goodricke Sr and Clare Norton. He died on 21 Sep 1601 in Ribston, Yorkshire, England . One of their 9 children was Richard Goodrich

41. Richard Goodrich - was born about 1590 in Guilford, New Haven, CT. He married Dinah. Dinah was born about 1620 in Guilford, New Haven, CT. One of their 5 children was Lydia Goodrich

42. Lydia Goodrich - was born about 1644 in Guilford, New Haven, CT. She married James Evarts on 14 Jan 1660 in Guilford, New Haven, CT. James was born on 19 Jul 1638 in Concord, MA. He was the son of John Evarts and Elizabeth Heyden. He died Apr 1682 in Guilford, New Haven, CT . One of their 10 children was John Evarts

43. John Evarts - was born in 1664 in Guilford, New Haven, CT and died in Guilford, New Haven, CT . He married Sarah Crampton on 23 Oct 1688 in Guilford, New Haver, CT. Sarah was born on 17 Dec 1669 in Guilford, New Haven, CT. She is the daughter of Dennis Crampton and Sarah Hall. One of their 7 children was Patience Evarts

44. Patience Evarts - was born on 2 May 1695 in Guilford, New Haven, CT and died on 24 Apr 1770 in Coventry, Conn. . As one of her 3 husbands, she married Benjamin Jones Sr.. Benjamin was born in 1696 in Pascommuck, Conn.. He was the son of Benoni Jones and Hester Ingersoll. He died on 1 Feb 1783 in Coventry, Conn and was buried in Samsfield . One of their 9 children was Ebenezer Jones

45. Ebenezer Jones - was born on 4 Apr 1718 in Coventry, Conn. and died in 1800 in Sanisfield, Ma and was buried in Beech Plain Cemetary . As one of his 2 wives, he married Zerviah Loomis on 4 Dec 1745 in Coventry, Conn.. Zerviah was born on 24 Sep 1724 in Lebanon, Ct. She was the daughter of Zackariah Loomis and Joanna Abel. She died in 1808 in Sanisfield, Ma . One of their 11 children was Miles Jones Sr.

46. Miles Jones Sr. - was born on 28 Jul 1764 in Coventry, Conn. and died on 17 Apr 1812 in Otis, Ma and was buried in West Center Cemetery . He married Mehitable Adams on 28 Nov 1792 in Otis, Mass.. Mehitable was born on 7 Jun 1771 in Sandisfield, Ma. She was the daughter of Samuel Adams and Sarah Clark. She died on 8 May 1812 in Otis, Ma. and was buried in West Center Cemetery . One of their 10 children was Miles Jones Jr.

47. Miles Jones Jr. - was born on 6 Nov 1794 in Otis, Mass. and died on 8 Feb 1885 in Elmwood Illinois . He married Pamela Ketchum Turner on 6 Nov 1822 in Ellery, Chautauqua, Ny. Pamela was born on 2 Sep 1805 in Sidney, Hastings, Ontario, Canada. She was the daughter of Asa Turner and Isabel Ketchum. She died on 1 May 1883 in Elmwood Illinois . One of their 7 children was Sarah Maria Jones

48. Sarah Maria Jones - was born on 18 Apr 1831 in Near Jamestown, N.Y. and died on 10 Dec 1910 in Galesburg, Ill and was buried in Hope Cemetery, Elmwood Ill. . She married William Douglas on 5 Oct 1852 in Victoria District, Ontario. William was born on 15 Sep 1830 in Canada. He was the son of Thomas Douglass and Mary Ann Seeley. He died on 15 Jul 1896 in Elmwood, Ill and was buried in Hope Cemetery . One of their 6 children was William Henry Douglas

49. William Henry Douglas - was born on 26 Aug 1853 in Canada and died on 22 Nov 1923 in Peoria, Ill. and was buried in Hope Cemetery, Elmwood, Ill. . He married Blanche Amy Hoffman on 8 Jun 1892 in Elmwood, Ill. Blanche was born on 1 Jul 1867 in Marianna, Ark.. She was the daughter of Rutledge Thorton Hoffman and Emeline Dixon. She died on 3 Aug 1946 in Peoria, Ill. and was buried in Elmwood, Ill. . One of their 3 children was Norma Elizabeth Douglass
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I recently discovered my lineage and traced in through the Devere family to Vere De Anjou and Dragon Queen Anjou.
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Very Cool
With your posting - i have discovered I belong to this line as well.

VERY COOL
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Wow, very cool. An interesting read and yes, I too found my family links to Kings of Kvenland! Great work!
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our family name changes like the wind.dumesny,dumesne,Du-Mesne,dumissil,dumain.All i know is that we came out of france to germany then to australia,over all this was a good site to come across and read.Thanx from the land of oz
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It was my understanding that Godfrey/Godfrei of Bouillon was childless, hence why his NIECE 'MELISENDE' was elevated to the throne of re-established Jerusalem during the Crusades, as the males were both dead at that point

Her mother was an ARMENIAN Princess. Who was married to Godfrey's younger brother. She had three daughter, one of which was 'MELISENDE'. Presumably as booty in the crusade conquest to establish a peaceful alliance with CHRISTIAN ARMENIANS, WHO CONTROL A QUARTER OF THE HOLY CITY TO THIS DAY...AHEM

MELISENDE WAS RAISED AS A CHRISTIAN.

The bad blood with the House of Anjou dates to squabbles in the time of RICHARD THE LIONHEART which have been immortalized in various formats of song, prose, plays etc
She bore the brunt of that, also from bitterness that arose between France and England, many centuries after her death.

MELISENDE WAS THE AUNT TO ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE, ELEANOR WAS RUMORED TO HAVE LIKELY BEEN ASSAULTED BY HER UNCLE "BLACK" RAYMOND, DUKE OF ANJOU DURING HER TEENAGE PILGRIMAGE TO THE HOLY LAND TO VISIT HER UNCLE FROM FRANCE AND HIS WIFE

The serpent legends arose in France. The mermaid motif is set into the crests and parapets of households/castles with her bloodline, also those who protected her bloodline during various internal exiles/political reversals. 'refuge'

HER SONS WERE ALL FOUNDERS OF VARIOUS ROYAL HOUSES IN EUROPE

ONE WAS THE VICEROY OF MALTA. ANOTHER OF THE ISLE OF CYPRUS.

HENCE THE ARMENIAN BLOOD OF HER ~MOTHER~ FLOWS IN HER DESCENDANTS

AHEM

SHE WAS A PATRON OF THE RELIGIOUS ARTS AND HER GOSPEL SHE COMMISSIONED, WAS PROTECTED AND SAVED UP IN THE ALPS FOR YEARS UNTIL IT WAS PURCHASED BY THE BRITISH ANTIQUITIES AND IS NOW ON DISPLAY AT THE BRITISH LIBRARY

INFO ON HER SACRED PSALTER, LINKED AT THE BRITISH LIBRARY RARE MANUSCRIPTS AND CONSIDERED A VERY PRECIOUS TREASURE

[link to www.bl.uk]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

WHERE THIS HATCHETWHACKJOB OUTFIT IS COMING UP WITH MELEASANU IS BEYOND ME, UNLESS THEY ARE USING A LATIN TRANSLATION. SHE WAS NOT HUNGARIAN DERIVED IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

MELUSINE IS THE FRENCH PRONUNCIATION

MELISENDE IS HOW THE BRITISH REFER TO HER

Btw, her co reign with her son for a quarter century of Jerusalem ( before it was sacked and lost to the Turks in the time of her granddaughter) is characterized as a relative bit of sanity and sound rulership in a sea of crusade disorder.

"Black" RAYMOND FULK, DUKE OF ANJOU HOWEVER IS ANOTHER STORY ALTOGETHER...

de LUSIGNAN = LOHENGRIN = LORRAINE.

~THAT~ IS CORRECT.
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When I was researching Armenian history awhile back I read that Baldwin had married an Armenian Princess and that this Melusine was their daughter, but after reading all the Scottish stories I figured I had read it wrong, but apparently not.... Is the woman he married the one from Marash? I think it is because that is where part of my family is from and that is why I remembered the story. The Lusignans are also known as Lusinian in Armenian. There are still some around...

There is a lot of contact throughout history between Armenians and Scythians and I am beginning to notice similarities between Celtic dance and Armenian dance among other things. The more I learn the less I know.

Check this out all you Celts and tell me what you think....

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It was my understanding that Godfrey/Godfrei of Bouillon was childless, hence why his NIECE 'MELISENDE' was elevated to the throne of re-established Jerusalem during the Crusades, as the males were both dead at that point

Her mother was an ARMENIAN Princess. Who was married to Godfrey's younger brother. She had three daughter, one of which was 'MELISENDE'. Presumably as booty in the crusade conquest to establish a peaceful alliance with CHRISTIAN ARMENIANS, WHO CONTROL A QUARTER OF THE HOLY CITY TO THIS DAY...AHEM

MELISENDE WAS RAISED AS A CHRISTIAN.

The bad blood with the House of Anjou dates to squabbles in the time of RICHARD THE LIONHEART which have been immortalized in various formats of song, prose, plays etc
She bore the brunt of that, also from bitterness that arose between France and England, many centuries after her death.

MELISENDE WAS THE AUNT TO ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE, ELEANOR WAS RUMORED TO HAVE LIKELY BEEN ASSAULTED BY HER UNCLE "BLACK" RAYMOND, DUKE OF ANJOU DURING HER TEENAGE PILGRIMAGE TO THE HOLY LAND TO VISIT HER UNCLE FROM FRANCE AND HIS WIFE

The serpent legends arose in France. The mermaid motif is set into the crests and parapets of households/castles with her bloodline, also those who protected her bloodline during various internal exiles/political reversals. 'refuge'

HER SONS WERE ALL FOUNDERS OF VARIOUS ROYAL HOUSES IN EUROPE

ONE WAS THE VICEROY OF MALTA. ANOTHER OF THE ISLE OF CYPRUS.

HENCE THE ARMENIAN BLOOD OF HER ~MOTHER~ FLOWS IN HER DESCENDANTS

AHEM

SHE WAS A PATRON OF THE RELIGIOUS ARTS AND HER GOSPEL SHE COMMISSIONED, WAS PROTECTED AND SAVED UP IN THE ALPS FOR YEARS UNTIL IT WAS PURCHASED BY THE BRITISH ANTIQUITIES AND IS NOW ON DISPLAY AT THE BRITISH LIBRARY

INFO ON HER SACRED PSALTER, LINKED AT THE BRITISH LIBRARY RARE MANUSCRIPTS AND CONSIDERED A VERY PRECIOUS TREASURE

[link to www.bl.uk]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

WHERE THIS HATCHETWHACKJOB OUTFIT IS COMING UP WITH MELEASANU IS BEYOND ME, UNLESS THEY ARE USING A LATIN TRANSLATION. SHE WAS NOT HUNGARIAN DERIVED IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

MELUSINE IS THE FRENCH PRONUNCIATION

MELISENDE IS HOW THE BRITISH REFER TO HER

Btw, her co reign with her son for a quarter century of Jerusalem ( before it was sacked and lost to the Turks in the time of her granddaughter) is characterized as a relative bit of sanity and sound rulership in a sea of crusade disorder.

"Black" RAYMOND FULK, DUKE OF ANJOU HOWEVER IS ANOTHER STORY ALTOGETHER...

de LUSIGNAN = LOHENGRIN = LORRAINE.

~THAT~ IS CORRECT.


When I was researching Armenian history awhile back I read that Baldwin had married an Armenian Princess and that this Melusine was their daughter, but after reading all the Scottish stories I figured I had read it wrong, but apparently not.... Is the woman he married the one from Marash? I think it is because that is where part of my family is from and that is why I remembered the story. The Lusignans are also known as Lusinian in Armenian. There are still some around...
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I was incorrect. I was thinking of Princess Arda from Marash, the one supposedly connected to the Templar Skull and Crossbones story. Why is it all these stories are connected to Armenians ??
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Re: Any decendant's of the Dragon Queen of Anjou
Melusine De Lusina was married to Raymond De Vere who was the son of Vere De Anjou and The Dragon Queen of Anjou,this was towards the end of the 6th century a.d.into the 7th century.
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I have raymond as King Vere And Deagon Queen's Son i also have her as D'Anjo
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Re: Any decendant's of the Dragon Queen of Anjou
Would that be Countess Elizabeth Bathory?

If so, yes I believe so.

Want to meet one?
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Re: Any decendant's of the Dragon Queen of Anjou
Melusine de Lusina married to Raymond de Vere in 733- Daughter of Elinas, King of the Picts and Bruithina McBrude.



Melisende, Queen of Jerusalem born 1105 married to Fulk V, Count of Anjou- Daughter of Baldwin II and Morphia of Melitene.


So two separate people living about 400 years apart and both being associated with this myth by different people. What gives?
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Aye. Hello distant cousin.
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Re: Any decendant's of the Dragon Queen of Anjou
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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I am a direct descendant of the De Veres and Melusine herself. My family dropped the space and capitalization long ago making it Devere.
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Ah how I have missed this thread,I am glad to see many cousins have shown up,Hail to the ancient dragon bloodline!..................................sheep
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Re: Any decendant's of the Dragon Queen of Anjou
I have found this series of posts most interesting as we are in the Information Age with the power of computers with us. I am amazed I can find all these wonderful sites (including the giant Ancestry.com) to find, research and confirm various folk from so long ago that flow through my veins. :-) Thanks on the various spellings of Melucine/Melisende and their possible heritage(s) ... lots and lots to find and read.

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