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150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims
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ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 7/16/2008 2:03 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
Give us a way to help. If I can find a farmer and an address with a small debt that I can pay, I will. I'd like to help one on one these days, that way I KNOW something positive was done. Then, if everyone helped someone else, one on one... fuck waiting for governments, charities and big organizations. Do it ourselves... one BY one!
P.S., save any and all seeds you might come across and plant, plant, plant...anything. I get trees from the arbor society and plant them all over, any open space that I can find. I transplant sprouts from fruit trees as well. I don't know...call me a rebel!  Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469209
make sure you are not planting GMO/GE terminator seeds or you will add to monsaton success
If you do not know assume they are contaminated
do not worsen the problem with good intentions
focus and if you are to do it-do it well,do it right, do it the best you have in you-it is a matter of survival
and currently food is necessary even if in small portions
3rd world countries like many in S America are organic or are aware of the dangers of GMO/GE as many have already learned the hard way-these companies lie regularly-easily
so many have been trained in many areas to recognize the GMO/GE plants and uproot them and contain them in a hazards type bag to prevent the spreading of the Monsaton contaminated FRANKENFOODS
I would like to point out that many on this forum would think them simple and uneducated and yet-many will discover in researching even in their so-called simple ways they are wiser than many with massive degrees or licensures in this country-
ALL THESE RESOURCES AND OUR YOUTH ARE EXPECTED TO ACCEPT IGNORANCE AS BRILLIANCE
while they are fed toxins such as fluoride that have proven(even in concentration camps) to LOWER IQ and make the masses DOCILE/PASSIVE
apathetic,accepting the controllers and vying to lick the boots.
sorry I feel compelled to thwart them as it does not bode well for survival,from what I hear...or see,because I do know. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 461218 7/16/2008 5:29 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
the seeds were modified to stop internation duplication of a patented product..international thieves have meet thier match in patented products....imternation thieves stole revenue from monsanto ..until monsanto changed the product...just like opec hyjacking oil money from the world...after they designed terror operatives to go kill civilians for political purposes which then drove up tensions which spiked oil prices globably....same thing.. Quoting: ano 469099
You really ARE that stupid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 469209 7/16/2008 5:31 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
Give us a way to help. If I can find a farmer and an address with a small debt that I can pay, I will. I'd like to help one on one these days, that way I KNOW something positive was done. Then, if everyone helped someone else, one on one... fuck waiting for governments, charities and big organizations. Do it ourselves... one BY one!
P.S., save any and all seeds you might come across and plant, plant, plant...anything. I get trees from the arbor society and plant them all over, any open space that I can find. I transplant sprouts from fruit trees as well. I don't know...call me a rebel!
make sure you are not planting GMO/GE terminator seeds or you will add to monsaton success
If you do not know assume they are contaminated
do not worsen the problem with good intentions
focus and if you are to do it-do it well,do it right, do it the best you have in you-it is a matter of survival
and currently food is necessary even if in small portions
3rd world countries like many in S America are organic or are aware of the dangers of GMO/GE as many have already learned the hard way-these companies lie regularly-easily
so many have been trained in many areas to recognize the GMO/GE plants and uproot them and contain them in a hazards type bag to prevent the spreading of the Monsaton contaminated FRANKENFOODS
I would like to point out that many on this forum would think them simple and uneducated and yet-many will discover in researching even in their so-called simple ways they are wiser than many with massive degrees or licensures in this country-
ALL THESE RESOURCES AND OUR YOUTH ARE EXPECTED TO ACCEPT IGNORANCE AS BRILLIANCE
while they are fed toxins such as fluoride that have proven(even in concentration camps) to LOWER IQ and make the masses DOCILE/PASSIVE
apathetic,accepting the controllers and vying to lick the boots.
sorry I feel compelled to thwart them as it does not bode well for survival,from what I hear...or see,because I do know. Quoting: ShadowDancer
These are heirloom cherry trees from my husband's family's land that go back over 100 years. Also roses and trees from Arbor Association...ie blue spruce and the like. But thanks for the advice. |
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ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 7/16/2008 6:03 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | No problem-just stressing to those who do not know what seeds they lay...
Since you have cherry trees(I have apple and peach) what was the big blow out several yrs back about cherries and the farmers were getting really upset-but I cannot recall the specifics-if you do I would appreciate it.
Seems the almond farmers were upset last about the high temp 'sterilizing' or processsing they wanted to do with even organic-depleting some of their nutrients/vitamins
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GraftedPromise U$ofA User ID: 469123 7/16/2008 6:33 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | Those in agriculture and "farming" are always being ADVISED by the academics and experts to get more productive!
And usually that productivity has a HUGE $$$$$$ to it.
There are brave souls who are going against this agenda ... and suceeding. But they are few in number. |
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jRhys User ID: 465934 7/16/2008 7:02 PM
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Its ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS that this field of research was given an all free and clear by ignorant officials. Its been said that back whenever these very important decisions were being reviewed, that considerable social pressures were present, and that you were considered "anti-progress" and were viewed as an antiquated thinker if you didn't yeild and jump onboard. There was, without a doubt, coercion. Officials were receiving large sums of money under the table.
Monsanto is well known for its aggressive lobbying practices, but thats just the surface activitity.
These are the same people that brought you:
Agent Orange
PCB's
Roundup
GMO's
If you haven't seen this point for point document on Monsanto, please make time to view.
Parts 1 thru 10:
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Its UNbelievable that biotechnology has not been reeled in and regulated by a much stricter policy. The arrogance of these so called scientists is sickening! There has been an untold amount of death and destruction with direct ties to these people and this company, and NOBODY has been directly held accountable. Yes, lawsuits have been paid out, but this frankenscience has still been allowed free reign while it uses the public as its guinea pigs to this very day.
Just as important, and along these same lines, I urge you to watch this well done youtube presentation by Sharilyn Wood Stalling covering facts surrounding Neonicotinoids, a specialized class of insecticide made and distributed by Bayer.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 434826 7/16/2008 8:07 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
........An Indian film director had told me of one village where the moneylender would rape the women right in front of their husbands, further pushing them to suicide… Quoting: sleepy head 454544
Yet we are MADE TO accept that all cultures are equally valid. According to the PC gestapo, speaking out about the horrors detailed above makes you the bad guy!! - go figure. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 405334 7/16/2008 9:09 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
what people miss here, is that the genetically modified crops kill off 'natural' ones, and the pesticides are killing the soil.
It'll be impossible to grow anything BUT monsanto's bullshit soon enough.
Then we all die. Quoting: LouisWinthorpeIII
WRONG!
Then you get tho choose whether you want to take the mark or eat. Have fun with that one. |
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Freddy Goji Berry Seed User ID: 429261 7/16/2008 9:46 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | I'm thinking about changing my name to "Freddy Goji Berry Seed" and walk across america planting Goji Berry bushes where ever I go. Next I will travel to India and they can destroy their Monsanto terminator seeds and plant Goji bushes.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 469468 7/16/2008 10:20 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | Humans, since the agricultural revolution, have done nothing but trash the planet.
Humans (fake monkeys) are supposed to be hunter/gatherers with a population of several million globally in proportion to other flora and fuana.
I don't feel sorry for these silly farmers nor for the billions who will starve in the next decade.
Thank the gawds who engineered you. Do they care? No. Do the research and then just don't worry about it.
See you all in famine...and you'll like it.
p.s. I'm an asshole? Look in the mirror and see yourself. |
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* <-----Kingdom of Heaven User ID: 418811 7/16/2008 11:06 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | Lovers of the machine world ...so called "real men" love genetically modified shit because it is part of the machine world. It is what the machine world gave birth to. It is part of so called "progress". The lovers of genetically modified bullshit know who they are. They dont speak out for their side too much because they know all the hate there is for their side and their product. But as the bullshit spreads into more minds they will feel freer to speak out for their genetic modified crap.
GM foods are just a by-product of the machine world. Welcome to the machine. We wanted it. We got it....all its parts.
The best we can do with the machine world is use the machine world against itself. Speak out through the machine worlds nervous system. The computer. |
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* <-----Kingdom of Heaven User ID: 418811 7/16/2008 11:07 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | Notice who never post in these types of threads ? Notice their names ? I do. They have nothing to say. Their is no defense. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 424777 7/16/2008 11:55 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
Then we all die. Quoting: LouisWinthorpeIII
Louie, learn to read, its not that hard, even the wetbacks can do it.
the op posted a link. The link destroys the premise of the poster |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 424777 7/17/2008 12:07 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
the seeds were modified to stop internation duplication of a patented product.. Quoting: ano 469099
or
the only way to get licensed to sell genetically altered seed was to "certify" it sterile for reproduction...
remember that? No you do not, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 447146 7/17/2008 12:14 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
the seeds were modified to stop internation duplication of a patented product..international thieves have meet thier match in patented products....imternation thieves stole revenue from monsanto ..until monsanto changed the product...just like opec hyjacking oil money from the world...after they designed terror operatives to go kill civilians for political purposes which then drove up tensions which spiked oil prices globably....same thing.. Quoting: ano 469099
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 385176 7/17/2008 12:45 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | what is the equivalency law? |
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33eons User ID: 469506 7/17/2008 12:56 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
GMO/GE/ sterilizers of plants and animals, and man
Terminator seeds killing all native plants
Genesis(genes of Isis)
"...all plants and herbs, I give to man, THOSE BEARING SEED..."
Not STERILE SEEDS
Why were those DNA/genome researchers(students in advanced graduate work) killed SO VIOLENTLY???(6 days after their laptop was stolen and they were encouraged to not release their incredible findings)
It is a message, just as the seed gestapo run around intimidating rural stores, seed companies,farming families,generational farms...dragging many through the mud and deceptions so vast one is hardpressed to defend against Monsanto and Mercks or the world
They have repeatedly threatened farmers and homeowners,and many businesses
The corporate conglomerate whores will be shut down. Unfortunately, untold damage is being allowed by their damning "equivalency law". Clarence Thomas use to be an attorney for Monsanto
How was this equivalency law allowed after all the research showing GMO dangers, and GE disastors,and TOXICITY OF LIVER & KIDNEY IN LAB SUBJECTS...eating their FRANKENFOODS?
How Indeed!
Their herbicides and pesticides spliced into the plants-
KILLING BEES
KILLING BUTTERFLIES
KILLING BATS
Using deadly Nicotine based pesticides-deadly to our pollinators
The CONTAMINATION of fertile fields by these whores is common-even becoming common in countries that have banned GMO/GE
The S.American countries fighting them, the European countries refusing it-illegal/BANNED, In many parts of Asia also
Amazingly, the banned,illegal seeds are found in these zones-to such an extent countries like Argentina after maintaining a ban-and having so MUCH contaminated they must accept the FRANKENFOODS
The Terminator plants do the job of wiping out all Native plants-ones that thrive WITHOUT FERTILIZERS & PESTICIDES
Hemp is the cure for our enviroment
It scrubs the CO2 out of the air-cleaning it
It burns cleaner,as a fuel or made into other products-less pollution than PVC,plastics,paper,fibers,
It REPLENISHES THE SOIL
check for yourselves
It can be used for food, it is high PROTEIN
After the fiber is removed, the trash and lime can be formed into building materials
6 times lighter than concrete,much STRONGER!
Medicines-pain, neuraligias,immune conditions, wasting syndromes....much,much more
Pharma=Sorcery,Greek word origin
Know the truth the loss of profits is what is maintaining these lies
Kaneh Bos(m) is part of ANNOINTING OIL
Do not buy into the lies they have programmed so well
This is the plant the Most High has given us-the plant of renown
Johnny Appleseed the truth in the land
Support harmony with all life
Live fully, but do not deny another the same
Turn away from error
We are toxed out on the planet due to these corporate conglomerate whores,sucking the lifeblood out of us with their fluorides,their mercury,their DDT,DIOXIN,Agent Orange,their vaccinations, their SOLUTIONS are worst than the cancers they spread
The ground bacteria critical for plant life is being wiped out
The bovine growth formulas are known carcinogenic-cancer inducing-the cloned meat
What about the sterile people-more and more many are sterile
I have had mine already long ago-no need convince others to get pregnant-but to be able to is critical for humanity to survive-and many will be lost in the next few years
DU is not going away either-Endgame is on and the majority reading this will likely not be alive in 4 yrs imho
sadly too many allow what together could be EASILY stopped-waiting for someone else to save them, another promise, another pipedream,someone much more capable
Many who are standing for truth are feeling the same-but the difference is they are trying.
Take care  enjoy the days given, these are numbered, I assure you-
It can Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287857 Thank you
His temple the many membered body of christ is being built |
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ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 7/17/2008 12:59 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
I'm thinking about changing my name to "Freddy Goji Berry Seed" and walk across america planting Goji Berry bushes where ever I go. Next I will travel to India and they can destroy their Monsanto terminator seeds and plant Goji bushes.
 Quoting: Freddy Goji Berry Seed 429261
gee,go for it-the more the merrier as long as they are not FRANKENFOODS,TERMINATOR seeds,or the sterile equivalency of fertile seed(doublespeak at it's finest)
Next they will try and institute their human DNA rice in KS
great,anybody for humarice???
and the more they splice human DNA into plants the more a terrible disease will jump ship onto humans
We have an extensive fungus amongst us already with the bees,bats,butterflies,moose,and WHEAT-how much has been contrived if known would stop all debate and most would be storming them with torches and pitchforks.

remember the Hemp for Victory video
watch it on you tube and know the truth
how long have we been under pesticides and herbicides????And now we are finding greater losses with pollinators...and the soil is being depleted of a critical bacteria too...73% reduction in food like algae even for fish...
anyone notice the superflies lately???How many goliath swats to kill them-how many times???
If one observes closely it is evident that we are at a major precipice
too bad so many are lemmings...
and the few who are not are moving forward and upward
let the ignorant de-evolve-maybe as plants they will get it.
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ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 7/17/2008 1:18 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
what is the equivalency law? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176
It is not a dem or repub thing
However, during much of bush43/42 term what he says is in opposition to what he does
Appointing members on the Supreme Court like Clarence Thomas who had worked as a monsanto attorney.
There are many others who work together via the revolving door in DC-works for the profiteers
They had alot of research and studies indicating severe liver and kidney toxicity with GMO/GE/FRANKENFOODS on their test animals
The information was voluminous
They ignored it-they did not read it and the push was on to state the GMO/GE/STERILE seed was EQUIVALENT to fertile,native,heirloom seeds.
Once this law went through it avoided untold lawsuits from the dangers of GMO/GE Once it was deemed equal it sidestepped any lawsuits alledging differently.One would need to overturn that law to take it on I think.
There are many others involved in these deceptions-This has been planned by even Kissinger many decades back-colluding with others-rothschild,rockefellars,illuminati control freaks...
There are a few great sites for info connecting many of the dots-
98% of all seed companies are owned by 6 companies
they have been setting this up for about 4 decades that I have seen actively-but few noticed or felt the need to understand the implications,longterm-we have arrived
Just as Lilly in a homeland security bill slipped in an immunity bill against mercury/thimerosol lawsuits from damages...typical
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MonsanMordor User ID: 437387 7/17/2008 1:22 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | 'One ring to rule them all and in the Darkness bind them.'
You can't stop Monsanto. They've already made hobbits.
It's the way of the future - You want to leave the evolutionary responsibility for sentience up to the catatrophic moodiness of Nature? |
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ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 7/17/2008 2:51 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
'One ring to rule them all and in the Darkness bind them.'
You can't stop Monsanto. They've already made hobbits.
It's the way of the future - You want to leave the evolutionary responsibility for sentience up to the catatrophic moodiness of Nature? Quoting: MonsanMordor 437387
like the queens new design for her ring coin
interesting,hobbits,lemmings,ostriches,beasts of the field,"goyim" style...according to some other trolls I am sure
Monsanto is already dead-they just want to take many of us with them
the walking dead will willingly follow
let the dead bury the dead
fallen fallow onto the hallowed ground
Mother earth knows her children and knows,
the shallow ones who know her not
time for school kids
in your face real life adventure
have at it,and it isn't a test much longer
Just as the DNA/genome wonderstudents were killed
keeping the truth of it buried a while longer
the DNA changes-affected by many things-even emotion/attitude,words,beliefs, and FRANKENFOODS-
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 469596 7/17/2008 4:55 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | Then we all die
No we will be recycled.... Soilent green anyone? |
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ANO User ID: 469359 7/17/2008 5:36 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | 7 YR DROUGHT WOULD HAVE BANKRUPTED ANYONE..PATENT THEFT IS RAMPANT..MANUFACTORS MUST PROTECT THIER STOCK HOLDERS .FOR A CHANGE..AND OF COUSE EVERTHING THAT HAPPENS IS AMERICAS FAULT.GET REAL. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 405334 7/17/2008 7:09 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
7 YR DROUGHT WOULD HAVE BANKRUPTED ANYONE..PATENT THEFT IS RAMPANT..MANUFACTORS MUST PROTECT THIER STOCK HOLDERS .FOR A CHANGE..AND OF COUSE EVERTHING THAT HAPPENS IS AMERICAS FAULT.GET REAL. Quoting: ANO 469359
Man, you and the rest of the people on GLP tho defend America should think about what you defend.
First it is a business in the business of enslaving all of mankind.
Second it is not the people of the states. They are do distant from the feds they can't possibly be labeled America.
Lastly there is no America. Look it up on any map and you can not find such a place.
As for GM food the goal is to give you the option of taking the implant/mark of the beast (government) or die. They really want you to take death and if you have so much as half a living brain cell you will take starvation over their offer.
Here's the problem with refusing the mark. No, it's not that you won't be able to buy or sell. The problem is they will allow that choice at first but due to the fact that the act of taking that mark gets you full God's rejection it will only take a matter of days, weeks, or months and the completely godless of the world will despise those who are not to the point of hunting them down for extermination.
So you're choice will soon be mark or death.
enjoy your deaths. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 384496 7/17/2008 9:01 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
Give us a way to help. If I can find a farmer and an address with a small debt that I can pay, I will. I'd like to help one on one these days, that way I KNOW something positive was done. Then, if everyone helped someone else, one on one... fuck waiting for governments, charities and big organizations. Do it ourselves... one BY one! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469209
Good idea, and I appreciate your desire to "help one on one" though trying to do it your way might be difficult.
But if you trust this organization you can easily make a donation by going to:
[link to www.savinglivesindia.org]
Stopping Suicide in India
paying off crushing debts of farm families
and clicking on the DONATE link on the right of the page.
That's how I did it. |
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sleepy head User ID: 454544 (OP) 7/17/2008 11:40 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | the drought did not cause the indebtedness.
the govt let the moneylenders crush those families.
oh, and Monsanto needed to protect their seeds. |
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ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 7/17/2008 5:43 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote |
the drought did not cause the indebtedness.
the govt let the moneylenders crush those families.
oh, and Monsanto needed to protect their seeds. Quoting: sleepy head 454544
Playing the markets against itself works everytime
monsanto wants complete control as they collude with the financial bankers of the world and the pharma industry and the petrol industry-they work together to make all of humanity MORE COMPLIANT
requesting the mark to be part of the system-as they are trusting the beast and the idols to protect them
and where there is no boogeyman to attack they create one so the lemmings can follow
they are afraid to lead, so they willingly follow in fear
IMF sets up the carrot and they have a big stick
catastrophe occurs
they offer help
just like mafia
and to gain their help the countries not as savvy bite-then they are hooked and little by little they are taken and enslaved via debt as well
It seems to be serving their agenda to get everyone on the dole
lining up at the food trough as their crops fail and pests overrun them,as their native plants are extinguished by Terminator seeds/FRANKENFOODS/GMO/GE
It's alive-have you checked your veggies lately,how is the pig flesh in them tasting? or the human DNA rice,does that make one a cannibal?
It changes DNA is what it does
and will continue to making it tragically obvious
pigman cometh |
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CraftZanie User ID: 469669 7/17/2008 6:48 PM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | Growing anything in this apartment is proving difficult to impossible, but I am able to vermacompost. That's composting your trash with the help of earthworms. Makes great soil. I will give/sell it to grow things. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81894 10/19/2008 9:13 AM | | Re: 150,000 farmer suicides in India, one man's crusade to help Monsanto's victims | Quote | I am glad for the widow that someone is helping her with her debt, of course its the evil americans that step up to the plate and help out. Maybe in say 20 or 30 years someone from over there will help a american widow out over here with their debt. |
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