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HONOLULU - The Army says it's critical to saving the lives of wounded soldiers. Animal-rights activists call the training cruel and outdated.

Despite opposition by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, the Army is moving forward with its plan to shoot live pigs and treat their gunshot wounds in a medical trauma exercise Friday at Schofield Barracks for soldiers headed to Iraq.

Maj. Derrick Cheng, spokesman for the 25th Infantry Division, said the training is being conducted under a U.S. Department of Agriculture license and the careful supervision of veterinarians and a military Animal Care and Use Committee.

"It's to teach Army personnel how to manage critically injured patients within the first few hours of their injury," Cheng said.

The soldiers are learning emergency lifesaving skills needed on the battlefield when there are no medics, doctors or facility nearby, he said.

PETA, however, said there are more advanced and humane options available, including high-tech human simulators. In a letter, PETA urged the Army to end all use of animals, "as the overwhelming majority of North American medical schools have already done."

"Shooting and maiming pigs is outdated as Civil War rifles," said Kathy Guillermo, director of PETA's Laboratory Investigations Department.

The Norfolk, Va.-based group demanded the exercise be halted after it was notified by a "distraught" soldier from the unit, who disclosed a plan to shoot the animals with M4 carbines and M16 rifles.

"There's absolutely no reason why they have to shoot live pigs," PETA spokeswoman Holly Beal said.

The bloody exercise, she said, is difficult for soldiers because they sometimes associate the animals with their own pet dogs.

Cheng said the exercise is conducted in a controlled environment with the pigs anesthetized the entire time. He had "no doubt whatsoever" in the effectiveness of the instruction, which he called the best option available at the base.

"Those alternative methods just can't replicate what the troops are going to face when we use live-tissue training," he said. "What we're doing is unique to what the soldiers are going to actually experience."

Cheng didn't have details about the number of pigs, how they were acquired or the weapons involved in the training.

The soldiers being trained are with the 3rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, which is deploying to Iraq this year.

"We understand (PETA's) concerns and point of view. At the same, the Army is committed to providing the soldiers with the best training possible," Cheng said.

Disappointed at the Army's decision, PETA on Thursday instructed its 2 million members to inundate the Army with calls and e-mails.

"We're hoping at the 11th hour here that we can have this stopped. We have to hang on to hope," Beal said.

PETA believes the U.S. military has conducted similar training at other bases using pigs and goats.

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Anonymous Coward
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7/18/2008 3:06 PM

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how can people shoot/hurt an innocent defenseless creature...for whatever purpose.....suck it up if you want to create war ive been son sad over this piece of news the whole day...pigs are so innocent and happy...they are like a child....and they think, and feel, they have a soul inside just like everything that is alive (almost everything)

DANE
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7/18/2008 3:13 PM

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We sometimes deserve some doom. DANE

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7/18/2008 3:43 PM

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I've seen Military videos where they tie the pigs feet together while it's lying down then burn the entire pig with a blow torch. The pig screamed in horror. I don't know how many animals they did this too but it was quite a few.

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7/18/2008 3:44 PM

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Thats disgusting. So many horrific things happen to living creatures around the world. We have become a curse to this planet. We ought to change our ways and respect all life.

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7/18/2008 3:45 PM

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I've seen Military videos where they tie the pigs feet together while it's lying down then burn the entire pig with a blow torch. The pig screamed in horror. I don't know how many animals they did this too but it was quite a few.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7315

OH GOD! I saw that, too. They also force-fed the pigs to keep it alive for as long as they could. I actually threw up.

There's viable research and then there's flat-out, unnecessary cruelty. Shit like that makes me ill.

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7/18/2008 4:01 PM

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The article doesn't mention the gratuitous masturbation being done by the doctors while watching the pigs suffer.

Anonymous Coward
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7/18/2008 4:15 PM

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I HATE MY COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS OFFICIAL!!! Can't wait for the DOOM!!!!!Bring it ON!!!!

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7/18/2008 4:29 PM

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satanical

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7/18/2008 4:30 PM

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"You can judge a society by the way it treats its animals" - Gandhi

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