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If this is the real interview with the roswell alien we´re fucked!

 
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Well, I hate to rain on the parade here, but the story has a few obvious holes in it.
This was written last August and she said she is 83 years old.
That means she was born in 1924 and would have been 23 at the time. How long is nursing school?
She would have had to been in the military for a very short time.

And then the larger hole is she said she was a Senior Master Sargent.
Well then, she couldn't have been a nurse.
Nurses are officers.
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That is indeed true, nurses are OFFICERS not enlisted.

That being said, there is a bit more wrong with this I didn't read all the posts yet because I answered yours so I don't know if anyone else caught this...

What is true for you, is true for you.
Lawrence R. Spencer -- Editor

HELLO people...that is THE quote of Scientology, the ALIEN CULT...

but even more interesting is that this is a "novel" form of the TERRA PAPERS...you can find the entire dox online in PFD format if you poke around enough.
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Is it me or does this sound exactly like Xenu and his minions actions? Scientology anyone? Just an observation.
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Ah so someone DID catch it.

at least this dude writes a little better than L. RON...too bad he copied TERRA PAPERS to do it.
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Well he didn't exactly copy the Terra Papers, but he took the info from them that meshed with Scientology and put it together...this shit isn't anything other than Scientology bullshit...good catch on the person that noted the fear factor...LOL count on a cult to "find" something to back up their made up crappola religion.

That fucking quote gives the whole thing away.

What is true for you, is true for you.
Lawrence R. Spencer -- Editor

Puredee scientology.

Wonder if TOMMY GIRL believes this shit.
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I found the whole story rather depressing. The only way we could escape this eternal damnation would be to try to avoid the alien light soul sucking machine after we die, and live on earth as an eternal poltergeist demon. That would be better than being reincarnated over and over again as an imprisoned IS-BE for ever and ever. Perhaps if the Domain ever takes the time to fully destroy, The Old Empire IS-BE imprisoning machine, all the people on the earth will find out who and what they really are. But if we have to wait another 5,000 years, you might as well try to become a poltergeist demon.
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Shortly after they settled there the base was surprised
by an attack from a remnant of the military forces of
the "Old Empire". Unbeknownst to The Domain, a hidden,
underground base on Mars, operated by the "Old Empire",
had existed for a very long time. The Domain base was
wiped out by a military attack from the Mars base and
the IS-BEs of The Domain Expeditionary Force were
captured.
You can imagine that The Domain was very upset about
losing such a large force of officers and crew, so they
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sent other crews to Earth to look for them. Those crews
were also attacked. The captured IS-BEs from The Domain
Forces were handled in the same fashion as all other ISBEs
who have been sent to Earth. They were each given
amnesia, had their memories replaced with false pictures
and hypnotic commands and sent to Earth to inhabit
biological bodies. They are still a part of the human
population today.


SOUNDS LIKE SCIENTOLOGY TO ME!
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And the sauce? Here you go...

From: Lawrence Spencer [razor@gte.net]
Sent: 07 November 2000 02:12
To: Graham Hancock
Subject: Your victory

Dear Graham,

Congratulations to you and Robert on your victory regarding the BBC attack! Well Done! I commend you on your courage and persistence.

I am the author of "The Oz Factors" (I sent both yourself and Robert a copy of my book last spring), so I certainly do have some first hand knowledge how the mainstream academic vested interests operate to suppress the truth. My book discusses this subject as one of the 12 "Oz Factors" which prevent our civilization from discovering answers to the mysteries of our existence.

I have been a Scientologist for 31 years. A good deal of my book is an application of the principles of L. Ron Hubbard as regards the fields of study into which you and Robert have so bravely advanced. Perhaps the material in my book will be of assistance to you at some point in your research.

Keep up the good fight!

Very Best Regards,
Lawrence R. Spencer
author of "The Oz Factors"
[link to www.ozfactors.com]

[link to 64.233.169.104]
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I can't believe the initial posts on this thread, really you guys are such suckers...either that or scientologists:D
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Just reading a small excerpt of it reminds me of a book similar to this: Rachael's Eyes.

I look forward to reading the entire thing.

Edit to add: someone commented about the trapped-ness of reincarnation. I've thought that the nonsense of heaven & hell, purgatory, karma ... all designed to keep us in fear and doing what is deemed correct for this day and age. Karma, of course, does exist, as does you reap what you sow (both the same thing). But what good is reincarnation when you forget everything you learned before.

I, for one, am ready for a wider taste of what this Universe offers. I love the Earth but am ready for flying through space in a non-corporeal form.
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airl (or whatever its name is) is referred to as a kakyakyauna by the Hopi and definitely NOT TO BE TRUSTED as they prefer stealing the insides of sentinent beings as their own bodies decay and cannot be renewed:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

then there are the katsinyam (the good ones) who come to teach us of the great power and beauty beneath our feet:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]
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maybe the amnesia machine is the cause of childhood amnesia!

we all have childhood amnesia, but nobody really knows 100% why? we just assume it's because the brain isn't developed.

childhood amnesia:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

-basically it means we can't remember anything before the age of 3.
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I can remember.
Started speaking in two Lang. at age 8 month (exposed to 2 different cultures in same area).

Vivid picture memories in my head that turned out to be events in my early life before 2years old when I was mature enough to interpret them and explain to others that pointed out that those were actual events.

Actual video memories of my brother being born and the news being told I was 1year 3 months old.

So many memories, no blanks and lots of hardship to remember.
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O to add a note every time the moon is full I am super stressed out since childhood.
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If this is the real interview with the roswell alien we´re fucked!

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And if it isn't....you're fucked.
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This crap comes from Dianetics. Bunch of baloney.
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Anyone read any other of his books?
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airl (or whatever its name is) is referred to as a kakyakyauna by the Hopi and definitely NOT TO BE TRUSTED as they prefer stealing the insides of sentient beings as their own bodies decay and cannot be renewed:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

then there are the katsinyam (the good ones) who come to teach us of the great power and beauty beneath our feet:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]
 Quoting: ACDC 433433

correct. in this alleged interview the grays are portrayed as the good guys whereas the pleijadeans and their allies are portrayed as the bad guys.

but the reality looks different:

pleijadeans and their allies = good guys

grays and their allies (yes, also includes our earth gubmints...) = bad guys

simple as.

the hopi are the ones who tell us the truth: pleijadeans and friends = good ones

grays and their evil minions = bad guys

also this "story" reads like pure propaganda for the grays.

the grays are NOT superior nor are they the most advanced and strongest/biggest/best race. they're evil sinister beings which can't be trusted...only got bad things in mind.

i, personally, believe that the grays will be the first race with which we will have open "first contact" for the PUBLIC (of course, they already made contact with our evil gubmints a long time ago...but NOT for our benefit...).

there's a hopi story, if i remember correctly, which tells us basically the same:

grays appear and make worldwide open "first contact" and claim to only have our best interests in mind...basically claim they wanna "help" us. this, of course, is a lie...they only got their OWN evil and sinister interests in mind.

this is the time were the plejadeans and their allies will definitely and openly intervene for EVERYBODY to see, as "the line" has been disrespectfully crossed.

in a nutshell: grays and their allies CAN'T be trusted and are evil to their very core...just ask the hope...

fact and period!

nuf' said...m2c
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airl (or whatever its name is) is referred to as a kakyakyauna by the Hopi and definitely NOT TO BE TRUSTED as they prefer stealing the insides of sentient beings as their own bodies decay and cannot be renewed:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

then there are the katsinyam (the good ones) who come to teach us of the great power and beauty beneath our feet:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

correct. in this alleged interview the grays are portrayed as the good guys whereas the pleijadeans and their allies are portrayed as the bad guys.

but the reality looks different:

pleijadeans and their allies = good guys

grays and their allies (yes, also includes our earth gubmints...) = bad guys

simple as.

the hopi are the ones who tell us the truth: pleijadeans and friends = good ones

grays and their evil minions = bad guys

also this "story" reads like pure propaganda for the grays.

the grays are NOT superior nor are they the most advanced and strongest/biggest/best race. they're evil sinister beings which can't be trusted...only got bad things in mind.

i, personally, believe that the grays will be the first race with which we will have open "first contact" for the PUBLIC (of course, they already made contact with our evil gubmints a long time ago...but NOT for our benefit...).

there's a hopi story, if i remember correctly, which tells us basically the same:

grays appear and make worldwide open "first contact" and claim to only have our best interests in mind...basically claim they wanna "help" us. this, of course, is a lie...they only got their OWN evil and sinister interests in mind.

this is the time were the plejadeans and their allies will definitely and openly intervene for EVERYBODY to see, as "the line" has been disrespectfully crossed.

in a nutshell: grays and their allies CAN'T be trusted and are evil to their very core...just ask the hopi...

fact and period!

nuf' said...m2c
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 233945

fix typo
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airl (or whatever its name is) is referred to as a kakyakyauna by the Hopi and definitely NOT TO BE TRUSTED as they prefer stealing the insides of sentient beings as their own bodies decay and cannot be renewed:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

then there are the katsinyam (the good ones) who come to teach us of the great power and beauty beneath our feet:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

correct. in this alleged interview the grays are portrayed as the good guys whereas the pleijadeans and their allies are portrayed as the bad guys.

but the reality looks different:

pleijadeans and their allies = good guys

grays and their allies (yes, also includes our earth gubmints...) = bad guys

simple as.

the hopi are the ones who tell us the truth: pleijadeans and friends = good ones

grays and their evil minions = bad guys

also this "story" reads like pure propaganda for the grays.

the grays are NOT superior nor are they the most advanced and strongest/biggest/best race. they're evil sinister beings which can't be trusted...only got bad things in mind.

i, personally, believe that the grays will be the first race with which we will have open "first contact" for the PUBLIC (of course, they already made contact with our evil gubmints a long time ago...but NOT for our benefit...).

there's a hopi story, if i remember correctly, which tells us basically the same:

grays appear and make worldwide open "first contact" and claim to only have our best interests in mind...basically claim they wanna "help" us. this, of course, is a lie...they only got their OWN evil and sinister interests in mind.

this is the time were the plejadeans and their allies will definitely and openly intervene for EVERYBODY to see, as "the line" has been disrespectfully crossed.

in a nutshell: grays and their allies CAN'T be trusted and are evil to their very core...just ask the hopi...

fact and period!

nuf' said...m2c

fix typo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 233945

best posting in this whole thread. thx for cleaning up this propaganda BS and telling people how it REALLY is. 5 stars for your post and one star for this thread.
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bump

[link to www.youtube.com]
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LOL

WELL WE HUMANS DO LOVE OUR FAIRY TALES



I DO HOPE ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE WE GET TO CONNECT WITH THE PURE TRUTH

WOULDN'T THAT BE REFRESHING

I DO LOVE GLP AS THE POSTERS ALWAYS SEEM TO RIP INTO CRAP SO WELL


SAD BUT TRUE FOR ME>>> IT ALL IS A BUNCH OF SHIT FAIRY TALES

I DO THINK THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY BUT WE FIND OUT AFTER OUR DEATH

LOL TO BE CONTINUED............???

Jethro Tull- Thick as a Brick, Bungle in the Jungle


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There’s really no wonder why they stay out of contact with Homosapien…


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Our science is wrong, our history is wrong, our religions are wrong...

They are all systems placed upon us to keep us imprisoned.
Banks, education, work(slave).
The pyramids and all "ancient mysteries" are just that, mystery creations to mislead us and trap us.
Every time something enlightening sprouts its corrupted by the old empire and rendered useless.

Everything is a lie.
This whole illusion is created and maintained by the old domain.

Our life spans are cut down to assure we recycle more often and more memories can be erased.
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That's all changing, my friend, even as we speak!!!
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"in a nutshell: grays and their allies CAN'T be trusted and are evil to their very core...just ask the hope...

fact and period!

nuf' said...m2c"



That is what’s planted in your mind… The truth is entirely different. Many of the planters (controllers) have small bodies, yes – but if you feel fear for what you call “the grays” you will get shills when you meet the little guys in the funny suits…
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The notion that some type of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, according to some researchers, created humankind is the actual basis of the creation stories found in the ancient “Sumerian Records” and the later “Hebrew Scriptures.” This idea is set out in detail in the work of Israeli scholar Zecharia Sitchin, who uses the Sumerian records to argue that modern “Homo sapiens” were created by beings from outer space called "Nefilim". He believes that the Nefilim created humans by genetically modifying “Homo erectus,” then mated with them and argued over what to do with them.

In 1989 Zecharia Sitchin's radical hypothesis was taken a major step further with the publication of the book The Gods of Eden, appropriately subtitled: “The chilling truth about extraterrestrial infiltration - and the conspiracy to keep humankind in chains.” The author, a Californian lawyer going by the nom de plume "William Bramley" brought together all the major themes found in earlier ‘ancient astronaut’ research and merged them with a unique ‘conspiracy view of history.’ Bramley’s thesis, shocking and confronting to nearly all established popular beliefs, is:

Human beings appear to be a “slave race” breeding on an “isolated planet” in a “small galaxy.” As such, the human race was once a source of labor for an “extraterrestrial civilization” (and still remains a possession today.) To keep control over its possession and to maintain Earth as something of a prison, the “extraterrestrial overlords”, have bred a never-ending conflict between the various races of human beings, has promoted spiritual confusion, and has erected on Earth, conditions of unremitting physical hardship. This situation has existed for thousands of years and it continues today. (The Gods of Eden)

The idea that human kind is the product of “genetic engineering” carried out by extraterrestrials from outside our tiny planet challenges both Darwinian evolution and creationism. Have the dogmas of science and religion blinded us to the truth of our origins?

The Christian church proclaims that a supposedly all-knowing, all-powerful ‘God’ created our first parents from ‘mud’, in much the same way as potter molds clay. Only when Adam and Eve broke their Creator's rules were they subject to pain, sickness and death. By disobeying this ‘God’, they also condemned their offspring — all humanity — to be ‘sinners’. Christianity derives the unfortunate tale of Adam and Eve from Genesis, the first book of the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament.)

If we interpret the Bible literally, regarding it as an “infallible historical document,” we are introduced to a creator ‘God’ (Jehovah/Yahweh) who, by his own admission, is jealous, wrathful and full of vengeance. The “fear” of the "Lord" (Jehovah/Yahweh) is constantly stressed throughout the Old Testament. He is expected to reward those who worship him and are not delinquent in their observance of the ritual law, by gratifying their worldly desires for material gains and worldly power. One cannot help but note that this cruel, bloodthirsty, and selfish ‘God’ bears a striking resemblance to the “capricious” gods of Sumeria.

This all too human ‘God’, according to Genesis, took a walk in the "cool of the day," unaware that his prize humans had spoiled his creation by eating the ‘forbidden fruit’. After this, having chased the first human couple out of Paradise, he threatens their descendants with his wrath (until the day when he drowned the whole world in a flood.)

This ‘God’ (Jehovah/Yahweh) as the historian Gibbon observed in ,”The Decline and fall of the Roman Empire,” is a "being, liable to passion and error, capricious in his favor, implacable in his resentment, meanly jealous of his superstitious worship, and confining his partial providence to a single people (Jews) and to this transitory life."

Research indicates that the Hebrew Bible, far from being an infallible historical text authored by the “Supreme Being,” is a heavily revised compilation of at least two entirely separate works. Fused together in the Book of Genesis are two separate works known to scholars as the northern "E" and southern "J" traditions, which are supplemented by additional revisions and inserts. In "E" (the Elohist passages) resides the pre-Judeans tradition of the northern peoples who exalted the Most-High God, El and the subordinate Elohim (Shining Ones). The "J" or "Jehovist" passages describe a totally alien entity, the evil and contending Jehovah (YHWH), the "Lord".

According to Max J. Dimont, in Jews, God and History:” In the 5th century B.C. Jewish priests combined portions of the ‘J’ and ‘E’ documents, adding a little handiwork of their own (known as the pious fraud), which are referred to as the ‘JE’ documents, since “God” in these passages is referred to as ‘Jehovah Elohim’ (translated as ‘Lord God’)."

This is why within the Bible we encounter “contradictory and conflicting” images of the Supreme God. We find Jehovah, a tribal god, “masquerading as the Supreme Being.” The first chapters of Genesis describe an awesome struggle between two rival powers. There is the “Most High God and His Elohim” who create through their own manifest spirit; and “the malevolent Lord God, Jehovah,” who created a “synthetic being” composed of dirt. “Jehovah” is actually “Satanael” (a “Shining One,” who rose in revolt against the Supreme God-Heavenly Father (El). Though, later called the “One God”, the early Hebrews knew Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael) as only “one of many Elohim.”

The Hebrews quoted the “Song of Moses” to distinguish between the Most High, Supreme God-Heavenly Father (El) and the “usurper, Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael):
When the Most High (El) gave the nations their heritage, (When He divided mankind)
He fixed the territories of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God;
But Jehovah’s (YHWH- Satanael) share was his people, “Jacob” was his inherited possession. (Deuteronomy 32:8)

The Gnostic Christians of the early centuries AD, who preserved the original teachings of Jesus, distinguished between the Heavenly Father (El) and the god of the Hebrew Bible Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael.) Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael) “was not, the “Father/God” revealed by Jesus.”
While the “Hebrew Bible” revealed a “tribal god” (YHWH- Satanael), “the God of Jesus was the universal Supreme Being of all humanity the Most High-Heavenly Father (El)!” The Hebrew god was a god of “fear.” Jesus’ Heavenly Father was a God of “love.” In fact, Jesus “never” referred to the Heavenly Father as Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael.) The Gnostic Gospel of Peter states that the Hebrew were under the delusion that they knew the “Supreme Being,” but they were ignorant of “Him,” and knew only a false god, an impostor (Jehovah, YHWH- Satanael) whose true nature was unknown to them.

The Gnostics based on their thorough study of the Book of Genesis, exposed Jehovah as Satanael the Demiurge, (the creative power of this fallen material world, who is “hostile” to the Supreme Being-Heavenly Father-El.) One Gnostic teacher told how the unknown Father (Heavenly Father- El) made the angels, the archangels, powers and dominions. The world, however, and everything in it, including man, was made by seven particular angels- these angels he described as rebellious feeble artisans.

Saturninus (90-150), who established an important Gnostic community in Syria, taught that the “One True God,” the Heavenly Father-El revealed by Jesus, dwells in the “highest Realm of Light.” Between this transcendent Realm of Light and our finite world exist vast intermediate hierarchies of archangels, angels and spiritual powers; the builders of the universe and the fashioners of man. In foolishness and vanity Satanael (Jehovah YHWH) “rebelled against the Realm of Light,” leading astray a company of angelic beings.

Satanael (Jehovah YHWH) and his minions, contrived “to trap spiritual beings in physical bodies.” Saturninus (90-150), told how Satanael’s (Jehovah YHWH) “creator angels” endeavored to “create physical human bodies,” in the image of spiritual beings. This way they could keep spiritual beings permanently (attached to physical bodies!)

In Saturninus’ (90-150), account of creation, Satanael’s (Jehovah YHWH) creator angels could only form a primitive android. It was necessary to animate it with a spirit being from the upper realms. Satanael (Jehovah YHWH) therefore lured down into his soulless universe a light-spark from the heavenly realms and trapped it within the material body of Adam.

According to Apelles, another early Gnostic teacher, spirit beings were enticed from their place in the “heavenly realms” by the opportunity of physical experience, through the machinations of Satanael’ (Jehovah YHWH) after which he bound them in bodies of flesh. Generation succeeded generation, as the light-sparks took embodiment in human forms. Soon these spiritual beings became so engrossed in the material world that they lost all awareness of “their origin in the Realm of Light.” They found themselves “captured” in the world of the Demiurge-Satanael (Jehovah YHWH.) Indeed, they became slaves to the malevolent “creator angels” and the things of their world.

“The Catholic Church,” by accepting the “Hebrew Bible” in its “literal interpretation,” mistook the tribal god, Jehovah (YHWH-Satanael) for the Supreme Being-Heavenly Father- El. In imitation of old Israel, the Church set about establishing a political and religious empire. Only the Gnostic Christians stood in their way. The Gnostics quickly found themselves viciously denounced as heretics, their sacred books banned and burnt. Thanks to the miraculous discovery of several Gnostic scriptures at Nag Hammadi in Egypt, just fifty years ago, we can gain a better insight into the Gnostic Christian communities of the early centuries AD.

A Gnostic work uncovered at Nag Hammadi called “The Apocalypse of Adam,” is an enlightening account of the creation of Adam and Eve. This book, dating from the first century, may be an attempt to reconstruct the original Genesis.

Adam is said to declare:
“When god had created me out of the earth along with Eve your mother, I went about with her in a glory which she had seen in the aeon from which we had come forth” [Realm of Light]. She taught me a word of knowledge of the eternal God-And we resembled the great eternal angels, for we were higher than the god who had created us and the powers with him, whom we did not know.” Then god/Jehovah (YHWH-Satanael, the Demiurge), the ruler of the aeons and the powers, divided us in wrath. Then we became two aeons. And the glory in our heart(s) left us. After those days the eternal knowledge of the God of Truth (Heavenly Father (El) withdrew from me and your mother, Eve. Since this time we learned about dead things, like men. Then we recognized the god/Jehovah (YHWH-Satanael, the Demiurge) who had created us. For, we were not strangers to his powers. And we “served him in fear and slavery.”

The Gnostics understood that there are many different orders of beings. Their writings refer to numerous hierarchies of spiritual entities, both of “the Light” and of “the Darkness.” These beings not only move in the subtle frequencies, but can also take form in the physical dimension. Like the Essenes and Jesus, the Gnostics recognized the ability of "angels" to embody themselves in the flesh. The fallen angels were most often termed rulers or Archons, and the chief Archon known by various names such as Satanael, Jehovah, Ildabaoth, Sacklas, Satan, Sammael, etc. They possessed the power to create bodies and believed themselves to be ‘gods’. As a consequence of their degraded state, they are hostile to humanity and attempt to prevent mankind from attaining spiritual liberation.

John A. Keel, author of Disneyland of the Gods, and Our Haunted Planet, argues that the late 20th century interest in extraterrestrials, aliens and UFOs is just a modern day attempt to come to terms with the same forces other peoples and cultures once identified as "demons" or "fallen angels":

The “flying saucers” are merely another frame of reference to provide us with acceptable explanations for some of these grotesque events. An invisible phenomenon is always stalking us and manipulating our beliefs. We see only what it chooses to let us see, and we usually react accordingly.

The notion that the human body is the work of “malevolent” creator angels remarkably parallels the idea that extraterrestrials engaged in genetic engineering to ‘create’ Homo sapiens. Are we dealing with exactly the same phenomenon? Did the Gnostics know the truth about Man’s real origin and the unseen powers that seek to keep human beings in bondage? Are the malevolent creator angels who, say the Gnostics, stole spiritual beings and trapped them in physical bodies, the same as the extraterrestrial creator gods of Sumeria?

Consider the following observation of a modern Gnostic scholar, Dr. Stephen Hoeller:

The star-angels and other ruling spirits appear as tyrannical, limiting agencies in this Gnostic view. They are usurpers who lord it over humanity and creation in order to enhance their own “self-importance and glory.” It is incumbent upon the “knower” to realize this and to extricate himself from the grasp of these powers whenever possible. The existential predicament of human life lies in the uncomfortable dominance to which these lesser “godlings” subject the spirits of human beings and from “which only the experiential realization of Gnosis can extricate them” (Jung and the Lost Gospels.)

The “creator angels” or Archons are also characterized as terrible powers or forces of negativity and illusion. They are “cosmic Prison Warders” seeking to keep their human charges bound to the Earth. Caught up in the illusions of material existence, Man believes he is just a body and he cannot grasp the truth of his origin. This condition perpetuates spiritual blindness, leaving human kind in captivity to the Prison Warders.

However, the “Gnostics” never ceased from proclaiming that Man’s true being is not his body, and the material world is definitely not his true home. Man is a spiritual being and his purpose is to realize his higher Self (that light-spark exiled in the physical body.) His destiny is to return to the Realm of Light, his true home beyond the stars.

We must be reawakened to our origin, where we came from, how we became trapped on this planet, and how we can achieve liberation. The Gnostics urge us to escape from the trap of the world and open our eyes to our true origin.

Unfortunately, because, of the layers of confusion and the distractions that blind us, we cannot, of our own accord, escape this cycle of slavery. Our only recourse is found in “The Truth and the Truth is Jesus the Christ.” If we adhere to his teachings and accept, his offer of redemption, restoration can and will be ours. For He (and, only He) has paved the paved the way, by “His Passion.”

Ps: They are those who believe that the Bible (at least originally) was more than a collection of stories & history. Apparently, the “real” information is beyond face value and hidden (in code) and only discernable through your subconscious. So, it does a soul good to read the “Word” (whether you actually realize it or not.) The “seeds” of enlightenment have to be planted somehow!

iStarbug

So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

Monty Python - Galaxy Song
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Just a long as I don't burn in HELL...is fine with me!
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Re: [link to www.theparacast.com]

Looks like made up crap to me...but, what doesn't these days (daze) ?

But very creative and will fill in a lot of holes for blind acolytes among us !
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We are spiritual beings imprisoned on earth.
Provoked amnesia and reincarnation assures keeping us in a slave state. The aliens are not interested in us but dont want the earth destroyed. Spiritual beings cannot be destroyed hence imprisonment of undesirables. Criminals, perverts, crazy people as well as artists, free thinkers, non conformers. The gest is that there are loads of "is-be´s" spiritual beings that are in conflict.

No concepts of good or evil nor religion. The universe is created by is-be´s. We are prevented from uniting and regaining our powers as spiritual beings.
As long as this amnesia continues we will be imprisoned.

The "Old empire" is the "enemy" of "The Domain"
We are imprisoned by the old empire.

Our only way out is by raising our consciousness and work together.
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Focus more on spiritual teachings from the masters, and less on the aliens stuff of the past 80 years.

80 years of wisdom compared to millions.

You have some good ideas but your misdirection is that you see everything as an external threat and that we cannot escape from.

You say we can "raise our consciousness" and "work together" yet you want to follow the dark forces that teach that the universe is cold and knows no care for good or evil.

You cannot have good people hope escape from anything while thinking we are incapable of knowing good and evil.
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You say we can "raise our consciousness" and "work together" yet you want to follow the dark forces that teach that the universe is cold and knows no care for good or evil.

You cannot have good people hope escape from anything while thinking we are incapable of knowing good and evil.
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”good or evil” - those things are nothing more than subjective illusions created by… YOU, ME and other beings.

This is a truth that easily can be tested.

You say hurray, when YOUR group win over an “enemy” – but what do you think the guys in the “enemy” group say – do you think they considered you to be good or evil?

THINK – AND DEMONSTRATE THIS & you will be amazed how obvious it is!

(”good or evil” is nothing more than a subjective illusion.)

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YOU IDIOTS..there isn't a shred of truth in that "alien interview" the author just reworked L RON HUBBARD'S SPACE OPERA...but then the people crowing it's the truth HAVE to be SCILONS....the rest of us are not that fucking stupid.
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And the sauce? Here you go...

From: Lawrence Spencer [razor@gte.net]
Sent: 07 November 2000 02:12
To: Graham Hancock
Subject: Your victory

Dear Graham,

Congratulations to you and Robert on your victory regarding the BBC attack! Well Done! I commend you on your courage and persistence.

I am the author of "The Oz Factors" (I sent both yourself and Robert a copy of my book last spring), so I certainly do have some first hand knowledge how the mainstream academic vested interests operate to suppress the truth. My book discusses this subject as one of the 12 "Oz Factors" which prevent our civilization from discovering answers to the mysteries of our existence.

I have been a Scientologist for 31 years. A good deal of my book is an application of the principles of L. Ron Hubbard as regards the fields of study into which you and Robert have so bravely advanced. Perhaps the material in my book will be of assistance to you at some point in your research.

Keep up the good fight!

Very Best Regards,
Lawrence R. Spencer
author of "The Oz Factors"
[link to www.ozfactors.com]

[link to 64.233.169.104]
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It’s not the nicest story one could envision, but never the less - this is the ”simple truth” and it has definitely nothing to do with any religion.
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$cientology has nothing to do with religion either no matter how much they yell "Church". It's all $cientology, folks. Google Marcabians and OTIII.

How do I know it's $cientology? I used to be a $cilon and even I don't believe all the Xenu garbage.

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