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Document forensics expert: Obama "birth certificate" a "horrible forgery" (Told ya!)

 
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Barack Obama may be on a world tour surrounded by a fawning media, but Sunday an expert in electronic document forensics released a detailed report on the purported birth certificate -- actually a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB -- claimed as genuine by his campaign. The expert concludes with 100% certainty that it is a crudely forged fake: "a horribly forgery," according to the analysis published on the popular right-wing Atlas Shrugs blog.

The purported birth certificate was published by the left wing Daily Kos blog on June 12 in response to unconfirmed reports that Obama was not in fact born in the United States (Canada and Kenya were suggested as the possible locations of his actual birth). Since he would in that case not be a natural born US citizen (his mother was not present in the US sufficiently long as an adult to pass American citizenship on to him automatically), he would not be eligible to be president. Israel Insider has followed the story in five previous articles (the previous one here) and uncovered evidence, most recently, of admitted forgery among Daily Kos bloggers, tolerance of electronic forgeries on the blog site, as well as efforts by a blog administrator to conceal the admission of forgery.

The latest examinaton of the purported documents is by far the most detailed and technically sophisticated to date.

Atlas Shrugs publisher Pamela Geller reports that the expert analyst, who goes by the screen name "Techdude", is "an active member of the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, American College of Forensic Examiners, The International Society of Forensic Computer Examiners, International Information Systems Forensics Association -- the list goes on. He also a board certified as a forensic computer examiner, a certificated legal investigator, and a licensed private investigator. He has been performing computer-based forensic investigations since 1993 (although back then it did not even have a formal name yet) and he has performed countless investigations since then."




Perhaps the outspoken Israeli press corps will be able to do what their fawning American counterparts have failed to do so far. Obama's visit this week to Israel will be an opportunity to begin asking the tough questions -- however unpolitically correct -- about his apparently forged birth certificate and what that means for his citizenship status and Constitutional fitness to be the next leader of the free world.



The pseudonym was apparently inadequate to prevent Techdude's identity from being exposed. He reports that last week one or more persons "decided to track me down and vandalize my car and hang a dead mutilated rabbit from my front door in a lame attempt to intimidate me from proceeding with releasing any details of my analysis. They did succeed in delaying the report by a few days but instead of deterring me they just really pissed me off. To their credit, if I had not taken a few days off from the analysis I would have missed the most damning piece of evidence -- the remnants of the previous security border."

Techdude's detailed report, which runs more than 3000 words and 20 pages with extensive magnified illustrations and comparisons, reaches the following conclusion about the documented that was first published on the Daily Kos extreme left-wing blog and subsequently publicly endorsed by the Obama campaign, both in statements by official spokesmen, and featured on its "Fight the Smears" website. Here are some of conclusions:

"The (Daily) KOS image security border pattern does not match any known specimen from any known year. It does not match the pre-2006 nor does it match the post-2006 certificate patterns. The placement of the text in all of the pre-2006 and post-2006 certificates are almost identical pixel location matches while the image?s text placement does not match any known specimen from any known year. The shape and kerning of the fonts used in the 2006 through 2008 certificates are identical while the shape and kerning of the fonts used in the image does not match any known specimen. The KOS image shows clear signs of tampering such as the mismatch in RGB and error levels, visible indications of the previous location of the erased security border, easily detectable patterns of repeating flaws around the new security border, EXIF data that says the image was last saved with Photoshop CS3 for Macintosh, and finally a technician from Hawaii who confirms it just looks wrong."

The evidence, he says, allows for two possible scenarios by which the document was fabricated:

"There are two obvious scenarios used to create the image that can be ascertained from evidence. Either a real COLB was scanned into Photoshop and digitally edited or a real COLB was first scanned to obtain the graphic layout then blanked by soaking the document in solvent to remove the toner. After rescanning the blank page to a separate image the graphics from the previously obtained scan could then be easily applied to the blank scan after some editing and rebuilding. It would also explain why date stamp bleeds through the paper and the various bits of toner located around the image as well as the remnants of the previous location of a security border."

The purported birth certificate was published by the Daily Kos on June 12 in response to unconfirmed reports that Obama was not in fact born in the United States (Canada and Kenya were suggested as the possible locations of his actual birth). Since he would in that case not be a natural born US citizen (his mother was not present in the US sufficiently long as an adult to pass American citizenship on to him automatically), he would not be eligible to be president.

After more than a month of controversy and demands that the Obama campaign produce a paper birth certificate for analysis, this damning new evidence raises the stakes for the democratic party and its front-runner.

Will Obama and his people continue to stonewall in the facing of the mounting evidence of forgery, and provide paper proof of an authentic, original birth certificate or even a genuine secondary Certificate of Live Birth? And will the mass media and mainstream pundits -- which so far have hesitated to touch the hot potato -- finally address the loaded issue of his possible unfitness to meet the basic Constitutional requirement for a President?

Perhaps the outspoken Israeli press corps will be able to do what their fawning American counterparts have failed to do so far. Obama's visit this week to Israel will be an opportunity to begin asking the tough questions -- however unpolitically correct -- about his apparently forged birth certificate and what that means for his citizenship status and Constitutional fitness to be the next leader of the free world.

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QUESTION

IS NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE MERELY A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE ENTRY MADE IN THE REGISTER OF BIRTHS AND DEATHS.

TO VERIFY ALL ONE NEEDS TO DO IS VIEW THE REGISTER, PUBLIC RECORD.

SO WHY ALL THE HOT AIR

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QUESTION

IS NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE MERELY A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE ENTRY MADE IN THE REGISTER OF BIRTHS AND DEATHS.

TO VERIFY ALL ONE NEEDS TO DO IS VIEW THE REGISTER, PUBLIC RECORD.

SO WHY ALL THE HOT AIR

GL
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Try some hot air and lens-cleaner on your lens - it's obvious - the "proof" Obama offered is a forgery, and he is NOT qualified to run for the presidency.
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More idiotic schoolyard lies from those who feel supporting a political party is akin to supporting a sports team.

Thank the lord for US elections, it allows the rest of the world a glimpse at exactly what sort of a monkey house they're forced to deal with.

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HIS CERTIFICATE MAY WELL BE A FORGERY BUT TO VERIFY ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS CHECK THE REGISTER OF BIRTHS. THEN THERE IS NO DOUBT AS TO HIS BIRTH STAUS.

IF A FORGERY, HE MAY NOT KNOW IT. HIS MOTHER MAY HAVE LOST THE ORIGINAL AND IN A PANIC OR WHAT EVER COBBLED ONE UP. SO A SIMPLE INSPECTION OF THE RECORDS WILL REVEAL WHICH IS THE CASE.

QED

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You republicans are still beating this dead horse?
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HIS CERTIFICATE MAY WELL BE A FORGERY BUT TO VERIFY ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS CHECK THE REGISTER OF BIRTHS. THEN THERE IS NO DOUBT AS TO HIS BIRTH STAUS.

IF A FORGERY, HE MAY NOT KNOW IT. HIS MOTHER MAY HAVE LOST THE ORIGINAL AND IN A PANIC OR WHAT EVER COBBLED ONE UP. SO A SIMPLE INSPECTION OF THE RECORDS WILL REVEAL WHICH IS THE CASE.

QED

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 Quoting: GREY LENSMAN 470623


So why doesn't the commi do it instead of forging a hoax?

A - He is not a natural born American.
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You republicans are still beating this dead horse?
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You Un-American's still trying to sweep it under the rug?
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WHY DONT THE PEOPLE WHO SAY ITS A FORGERY DO IT. THAT WOULD MAKE THEIR CASE WATERTIGHT AND GIVE HIM SOME QUESTIONS TO ANSWER.

GL
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It shouldn't be THAT difficult to prove where and when you were born is it?

Birth records, family history, trees, etc??
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Very interesting.
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Even though I think david icke is a satanist, and his wife is a witch, and that his material is all setup to lead people astray with half truth's / lies, whether he realizes it or not.

He's made a lot of good points, in his half truths, one of which I think is the overall theme of

"presidents are not elected, they're SElected"

"there is no republican or democratic party, there is only one agenda"

I'll add, that I think that is the agenda of satan, the deceiver.

If they're in the final category of potential candidates to be president, then they're essentially bad guys in some way or fashion.

The mere fact, Obama's name rhymes with Osama, tells all.

They're putting forward the obvious, hoping that people don't recognize it as obvious, because of the unstable nature, that said obviousness would impose.

His mere running for president, with a name so similar to "osama" is a slap in the face to the USA.

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It shouldn't be THAT difficult to prove where and when you were born is it?

Birth records, family history, trees, etc??
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The difficult part is proving your an natural born American - when you're not.
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Even though I think david icke is a satanist, and his wife is a witch, and that his material is all setup to lead people astray with half truth's / lies, whether he realizes it or not.

He's made a lot of good points, in his half truths, one of which I think is the overall theme of

"presidents are not elected, they're SElected"

"there is no republican or democratic party, there is only one agenda"

I'll add, that I think that is the agenda of satan, the deceiver.

If they're in the final category of potential candidates to be president, then they're essentially bad guys in some way or fashion.

The mere fact, Obama's name rhymes with Osama, tells all.

They're putting forward the obvious, hoping that people don't recognize it as obvious, because of the unstable nature, that said obviousness would impose.

His mere running for president, with a name so similar to "osama" is a slap in the face to the USA.

rant
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While I hope for Ron Paul - I've predicting HILLARY is the one that has been S-elected - months ago. Don't be suprised if she wins. She may jump back in...
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Funny as heck.

There's so much desperation in the air. What COULD be making the right-wing so......totally coo-coo?

Why not just send it in, OP, to the Obama campaign for their response instead of spreading this Rove-orchestrated, swift-boating nonsense?

Ummm, afraid of truth???
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Funny as heck.

There's so much desperation in the air. What COULD be making the right-wing so......totally coo-coo?

Why not just send it in, OP, to the Obama campaign for their response instead of spreading this Rove-orchestrated, swift-boating nonsense?

Ummm, afraid of truth???
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Trying the Hegellian-dialectic spin/pigeon-hole game with me. Forget it - I don't go into that box. Trying to associate a simple fact about a hoax with Rove - another game-plan I don't fit into. I'm not afraid of anything - so forget projecting your fears on me.

Obama is not qualified to run because Obama is not a natural born American - face it - stop the head-games with me - you'll lose.
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As I said, funny as heck!!!

laugh

Want truth? Send it to the website.



Funny as heck.

There's so much desperation in the air. What COULD be making the right-wing so......totally coo-coo?

Why not just send it in, OP, to the Obama campaign for their response instead of spreading this Rove-orchestrated, swift-boating nonsense?

Ummm, afraid of truth???


Trying the Hegellian-dialectic spin/pigeon-hole game with me. Forget it - I don't go into that box. Trying to associate a simple fact about a hoax with Rove - another game-plan I don't fit into. I'm not afraid of anything - so forget projecting your fears on me.

Obama is not qualified to run because Obama is not a natural born American - face it - stop the head-games with me - you'll lose.
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As I said, funny as heck!!!

laugh

Want truth? Send it to the website.

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Yea...here's the laugh:

Barack Obama must have gone off script again in West Lafayette, Indiana on Wednesday. When addressing the crowd on national security, Obama mangled the attack on Pearl Harbor. For a Hawaii native, this tops the Young Gaffer list of historical fumbles.

The same can be said for the “nuclear annihilation” Obama also mentions. The threat wasn’t nuclear annihilation as such; that was part of the threat, not the entire threat itself. The real threat came from another kind of empire, one that wanted to conquer from within as well as without. It speaks to a fundamental superficiality of Obama, a man who seizes tropes and themes with little understanding of their significance or their details. Obama reveals himself as a man who doesn’t understand threats at all, and whose instinctive responses would make them far worse.

Update: Here’s the video; the stumble comes in the first moments. Note the long pause as Obama talks about the bomb at Pearl Harbor. It looks like he went off script:



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So if neither Obama or McCane are natural born, that leaves us with that guy with two first names...

Ron Paul... He's Natural Born!
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FAR MORE THAN ITS AUTHENTICITY, WHICH WILL BE CHALLENGED AND EITHER UPHELD OR DENIED. I AM MORE INTERESTED ANTHROPOLOGICALLY IN HIS RACIAL IDENTIFICATION

I HAVE YET TO SEE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE IN QUESTION, THO I SUSPECT IT WILL BECOME A FAMOUS DOCUMENT ALL OVER THE WEB VERY SOON

MCCAIN'S ALSO, AS THEY WILL BE LAID SIDE BY SIDE FOR AUTHENTICITY

I AM ASSUMING HE IS LISTED AS 'BLACK' AS HIS RACE? OR 'OTHER'? IF THIS WAS A HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE? WITH A 'WHITE' MOTHER?

I NOTE ALSO, AND THIS IS KEY, AS AN ADULT, HE CHOSE NOT TO PURSUE THE PATH OF HIS OWN WHITE MOTHER AND MARRY A WHITE WOMAN

HE INSTEAD SELECTED A PROGRESSIVE, SUCCESSFUL AND WELL EDUCATED BLACK WOMAN AS HIS MATE. AND HIS DAUGHTERS BOTH IDENTIFY THEMSELVES STAUNCHLY AS 'AFRICAN AMERICAN'. WITH NO APOLOGIES. THEY DO NOT REFER TO THEMSELVES AS 'QUADROON' GRANDKIDS.

REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY HAVE A WHITE GRANNY IN THEIR ANCESTRY OR NOT. THEY ARE QUITE OBVIOUSLY AND PROUDLY 'BLACK'

THE VAST MARJORITY OF LIVING BLACK AMERICANS HAVE A QUARTER WHITE PATERNAL GREAT GREAT OR GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER IN THEIR ANCESTRY. THIS IS SIMPLY A GENETIC 'FACT'. NOT A SUPPOSITION. DNA BEARS IT OUT ALSO. WE HAD WHOLE SUBCATEGORIES OF RACIAL DESIGNATION/PROFILING MULATTO, QUADROON, OCTOROON, QUINTEROON. ALSO FRENCH TERMS SUCH AS GRIFFE & MESTIZE. CAJUN'S ARE HYBRID TOO

FAR LESS LIVING BLACKS HAVE A ~WHITE~ 'FEMALE' ANCESTOR WHO WILLINGLY CROSSED THE RACIAL DIVIDE TO FACE ACCUSATIONS OF MISCEGENATION BACK IN THE 40'S, 50'S AND 60'S. IT WOULD BE MORE COMMON TO HAVE A BLACK DADDY/WHITE MOTHER IF YOU ARE MULATTO

NOTE THE 'GEN' ROOT THERE IN MISCE GEN ATION. BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT GENETICS, AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT EITHER.

PERHAPS INSTEAD WE SHOULD BE HEARTENED THAT OBAMA CHOSE TO ESCHEW RACIAL MIXING IN HIS OWN LIFE AND PREFERRED RATHER THE MORE TRADITIONAL ROUTE OF HIS ENTHNICITY AND HIS HERITAGE.

WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU ABOUT THE CHOICES OF THE 60'S GENERATION. ABOUT EXCESSIVE NUDITY. COMMUNAL LIVING. HAIR/WOODSTOCK?

IT SAYS TO ME, THAT THOSE OF US WHO WERE RAISED IN THE JOHNSON/NIXON YEARS, REJECTED THEIR LIBERAL VALUES FOR THE MOST PART

OBAMA IS PERFECTLY IN KEEPING WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY. NOT EVERYTHING THE IKE ERA BABYBOOMERS DID WAS RIGHT OR PROPER

NOT TO SAY THAT HIS MOTHER WAS 'BAD' AND HE'S UNFIT. BUT RATHER, THE CHILDREN CHOSE NOT TO MAKE THE SAME CHOICES AS THE PARENTS

WHICH IN THE END, SHOWS HIS SUPERIOR BREEDING. WISE MAN. HIS WIFE IS A DECENT WOMAN AND DESERVES OUR RESPECT.

HE COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE MARIAH CAREY, ANOTHER MULATTO AND MARRIED AN ITALIAN AMERICAN RECORD BOSS. HE STUCK WITH HIS OWN TRIBE.
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CORRRECTION, MORE COMMON IN THE 40'S, 50'S AND 60'S TO HAVE A WHITE DADDY/BLACK OR MULATTO MOTHER. SORRY.

YES ITS CONFUSING. AND HIS FAMILY TREE IS COMPLEX, WITH BLOODLINES ON THREE CONTINENTS

YES WE NEED TO NAIL THIS DOWN AS FAR AS SEEING THE ACTUAL CERT ITSELF.

HAS IT BEEN SCANNED TO THE WEB? IF SO, IS THERE A LINK TO IT AT THE DAILY KOS?

I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO LOOK AT IT FURTHER.
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LOL... if someone questioned us as to where we were born, we would whip out our birth certificate and tell them what hospital.

What's the big deal here?

Why can't McCain and Obama do the same to stop any speculation?
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LOL... if someone questioned us as to where we were born, we would whip out our birth certificate and tell them what hospital.

What's the big deal here?

Why can't McCain and Obama do the same to stop any speculation?
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[So much for the other "wise man" commentary for the commie above your post - Obama nor his racist wife deserve my respect.]

To answer your good question - Obama has his butt in a bind because he's a liar-commie and not a natural born.

McCain has his butt in a bind because he was born in a territiry under the sovereign power of another government, thus not qualified because he is not natural born either.
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Now Obamanation is on the news kissibng up with Gen. Betray-Us.

Sickening photo ops for the campaign.
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Now Obamanation is on the news kissing up with Gen. Betray-Us.

Sickening photo ops for the campaign.
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You republicans are still beating this dead horse?
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Not Republicans. McCain isn't qualified, either, lol.

We've got two NWO stooges who were picked by foreign interests.
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You republicans are still beating this dead horse?


Not Republicans. McCain isn't qualified, either, lol.

We've got two NWO stooges who were picked by foreign interests.
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I think so too. All of this is too bizarre.
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You republicans are still beating this dead horse?


Not Republicans. McCain isn't qualified, either, lol.

We've got two NWO stooges who were picked by foreign interests.
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Yep....and Obamanation can't stand to be revealed.
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