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US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With Israel

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7/22/2008 1:00 PM
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July 22, 2008

US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With Israel

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Prime Minister Putin’s office is reporting today that the ‘proposed’ American agenda for the upcoming meeting, during China’s opening Olympic ceremony, between the Putin and Bush [both pictured top left] contains language ‘suggesting’ that the US is ‘nearing an imminent split’ with their longtime Middle Eastern ally Israel.

Israeli news reports are, also, echoing these reports, and as we can read as reported by the Haaretz News Service:

“Senior officials in the U.S. State Department, including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, have repeatedly complained to Israel recently over relatively minor Palestinian issues that it would have ignored until a few months ago, Israeli officials say.

Complaints about settlement construction or army operations that kill Palestinian civilians have always been the norm. But Israeli officials are worried by the State Department's new tendency to intervene in a much broader range of issues.”

Israel’s Haaretz News Service further reports on the underlying concerns facing the US on Israeli actions against the Palestinian peoples:

“The United States security coordinator for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, retired general James Jones, is preparing an extremely critical report of Israel's policies in the territories and its attitude toward the Palestinian Authority's security services.

A few copies of the report's executive summary (or, according to some sources, a draft of it) have been given to senior Bush Administration officials, and it is reportedly arousing considerable discomfort.”

Russian Military Analysts further point out in these reports that the actions of the US against Israel are ‘strictly adhering’ to the West’s decades long plan, and past US betrayals of longtime allies, to remake the entire Middle East based on the template used in 1979 when French and American backing led to the return of Grand Ayatollah Seyyed Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini to Iran and the establishment of the current Islamic Republic for the Iranian peoples.

These reports continue by stating that the ‘final lynchpin’ in the West’s Grand Game for the Middle East is the return to Turkey of Fethullah Gülen, though who unknown to virtually all of the Western peoples is known to be one of the most important Muslim figures in the entire World.

Clearing the path for Gülen’s momentous return to Turkey are the past few week’s two rulings by American and Turkish Courts allowing both his extended exile in the US and his return from exile to his Turkish homeland.

It cannot be understated how ‘seismic’ Gülen’s return to Turkey, and the entire Middle East, will be, these reports continue, as the journals American Foreign Policy (AFP) and Prospect in their Worldwide poll show that Gülen has been voted to be the ‘World’s top public intellectual’.

And, just like the Grand Ayatollah Khomeini had returned to Iran during the midst of an Islamic Revolution, so will Gülen be returning to a Turkey which is, likewise, undergoing an Islamic Revolution of its own, and as we can read as reported by the Asia Times News Service:

"A perfect storm of enmity has come down on the beleaguered Turkish secularists, who find themselves without friends. That is a tragedy whose consequences will spill over Turkey's borders, for the secular model established by Kemal Ataturk after World War I was the Muslim world's best hope of adapting to modernity. Many years of misbehavior by Turkey's army and security services, the core institutions of secular power, have eroded their capacity to resist an Islamist takeover.

The United States State Department, meanwhile, has found a dubious use for what it thinks is a moderate strain of political Islam. Washington apparently hopes to steer Turkey into a regional bloc with the short-term aim of calming Iraq, and a longer-term objective of fostering a Sunni alliance against Iran's ambition to foment a Shi'ite revolution in the Middle East."

Russian President Medvedev, however, and backed by the full power of the Kremlin, has issued new orders in a bid to halt this latest attempt by the West to engineer their planned takeover of the World, and as we can read as reported Kommersant News Service:

"Russia has finally recovered. It has risen from its knees and is ready for the next stage – forcing the rest of the world to their knees. The new concept for Russian foreign policy was presented last week by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. Now Russian diplomats can be mobilized to attain that goal."

It must also be pointed out that the Western peoples ignorance on these vital issues is something for which they are not entirely to blame as their propaganda media outlets continue to suppress the true state of the machinations against this World being perpetrated by the supposed leaders of these Nations, but who instead have no care for their peoples at all and view them only as slaves to their vast corporations.

Nothing brings this into more sharp relief than the US President (who is currently presiding over the crumbling capitalist economy of the West) who has refused to help out his own citizens facing the worst home foreclosure crisis since the Great Depression, but on the other hand has spent hundreds of billions of dollars, and plans to spend billions more, saving the giant US banking concerns whose lust for greed have caused this financial catastrophe to occur in the first place.

In their important article detailing his growing crisis titled “The global economy is at the point of maximum danger”, Britain’s Telegraph News Service has surmised correctly:

“It feels like the summer of 1931. The world's two biggest financial institutions have had a heart attack. The global currency system is breaking down. The policy doctrines that got us into this mess are bankrupt. No world leader seems able to discern the problem, let alone forge a solution.

The International Monetary Fund has abdicated into schizophrenia. It has upgraded its 2008 world forecast from 3.7pc to 4.1pc growth, whilst warning of a "chance of a global recession". Plainly, the IMF cannot or will not offer any useful insights.

Its "mean-reversion" model misses the entire point of this crisis, which is that central banks have pushed debt to fatal levels by holding interest too low for a generation, and now the chickens have come home to roost. True "mean-reversion" would imply debt deflation on such a scale that would, if abrupt, threaten democracy.”

To how the connections are being made between the return to Turkey of Fethullah Gülen, the US fracturing its relationship with Israel, the current World catastrophes in food, banking and fuel, would take too long to explain to the average Westerner in order for them to protect themselves. Not because they are unable to comprehend these things, but rather because they are unwilling to face the true facts of the monsters who are leading them, like sheep, towards the abyss.

One of the most amazing examples of this can be seen in how many of these Westerners continue to pay their dwindling money to protect what is called their ‘credit ratings’ when the brutal fact is that the entire Western banking system is broke and has no money to lend to anybody. It is as if they believe that in the horrific future rushing towards them their credit ratings and credit cards will actually save them when in point of fact their monies would be best used to protect themselves.

And, as their propaganda media outlets continue to force these peoples focus onto Nations that are at the periphery of the mighty war to come, one only need look at Turkey to see how this final chapter of the ‘Great Game’ will be played out…and as the ancients have always warned, on the battlefields of Israel.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471804
7/22/2008 1:03 PM
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Oh, we can only hope.

Flights leave daily.

[link to www.elal.co.il]

Get on one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 467023
7/22/2008 1:05 PM
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Why would there be a split between USA and Israel?

They are both 'young' countries founded on stolen land, who feel they are have the god given right to be moral arbiters over the rest of the world.

They seem like perfect bedfellows to me.

Oh wait, it's Sorcha Faal.

Nevermind...

bsflag
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/22/2008 1:10 PM
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Why would there be a split between USA and Israel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 467023

Muslim Nation oil reserves= a whole bunch!
Israeli oil reserves=none
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/22/2008 1:13 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Why would there be a split between USA and Israel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 467023

Muslim population=1.61 billion

Israeli population=7.3 million

who would you rather have mad at you?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470249
7/22/2008 1:55 PM
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good because God is about to bless Israel and curse the usa lol
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471518
7/22/2008 1:55 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

I remember in one prophecy Iran is meant to walk through Turkey in order to reach Europe and thus Rome.

Does anyone remember this?
Turkey becoming an Islamic nation might actually have the opposite effect as stated and might unite with Iran. This could actually be TPTB plan from the start. They are claiming the opposite and giving the impression that Turkey's Suni sect could counter the Shiat of Iran, but under the cover uniting is the plan.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/22/2008 2:00 PM
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I remember in one prophecy Iran is meant to walk through Turkey in order to reach Europe and thus Rome.

Does anyone remember this?
Turkey becoming an Islamic nation might actually have the opposite effect as stated and might unite with Iran. This could actually be TPTB plan from the start. They are claiming the opposite and giving the impression that Turkey's Suni sect could counter the Shiat of Iran, but under the cover uniting is the plan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471518

not sure about how it will go but for the prophicies in the bible to come true and nostradams to right there has to be one giant nation of islam formed...and they way it looks right now Iran joining with Turkey and then taking out all of the other Arab states would do that

and from the looks of it every single Arab country wants to be out from under their royal rulers and to serve Islam instead of money
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471675
7/22/2008 2:00 PM
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They are both 'young' countries founded on stolen land, (...)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 467023

EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY, every one of them, was "founded on stolen land". There was someone else displaced because of the formation of ALL countries of the world. It's a human thing, and an animal thing. Study some history, please.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471841
7/22/2008 2:05 PM
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Sorcha usually has some interesting insights but this load of crap will never happen until they shoot all the traitors in Con-gress, the Pentagon, and of course the WH administration.

They have most of them blackmailed, plus they control the press and every politician knows not to speak bad about Zionrael or their career is history, just look at the Professors that wrote those books...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470249
7/22/2008 2:05 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

And, as their propaganda media outlets continue to force these peoples focus onto Nations that are at the periphery of the mighty war to come, one only need look at Turkey to see how this final chapter of the ‘Great Game’ will be played out…and as the ancients have always warned, on the battlefields of Israel. (In the valley of Megiddo known as Armageddon.)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 462060
7/22/2008 2:12 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/22/2008 2:29 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY, every one of them, was "founded on stolen land". There was someone else displaced because of the formation of ALL countries of the world. It's a human thing, and an animal thing. Study some history, please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471675

good point
Arcaneshift
User ID: 471749
7/22/2008 2:34 PM
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It's should have happened years ago, well I guess better late than never.

bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471518
7/22/2008 2:36 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY, every one of them, was "founded on stolen land". There was someone else displaced because of the formation of ALL countries of the world. It's a human thing, and an animal thing. Study some history, please.

good point
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 195267

Actually perhaps not the case with Iran.
Yes the persian empire did extend itself all over the place but as it stands now, Iran has always been Iran.
4000 years ago the Arians arrived in the plain Persia and settled there. there were no one there and nothing to take. They settled there and they were the Arian race. After awhile a portion of them travelled to Europe and thus the Arian race split in two. (that is another story).
So Iranians are actually the Arians who settled in Pars or Persia.
So to answer your question. NO, they were not founded on stolen land.
LouisWinthorpeIII Subscriber
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User ID: 384893
7/22/2008 2:36 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

sounds plausable until you check the source.

it's not like people are pissed about the 2x of .il's allowence, or now it has to be paid in euros, because they don't like the all mighty USD.
Findout when the NWO says you should die!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 467023
7/22/2008 2:40 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY, every one of them, was "founded on stolen land". There was someone else displaced because of the formation of ALL countries of the world. It's a human thing, and an animal thing. Study some history, please.

good point
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 195267


lmao

Yes, good point, if you're an idiot looking for an excuse.

For anyone with a brain and an appreciation of history, it's a lie.

Of course OP, you've already shown your taste for lies by posting this hunk of garbage.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461504
7/22/2008 3:33 PM
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Why is it that every time something good happens it just a Sorcha Fool fantasy?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 162364
7/22/2008 3:37 PM
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Actually God is going to let Israel be nearly overrun by it's enemies so He has 100% cause to show His power (by raising up the surviving remnant after destroying Israel's enemies).........no excuses then. We have all been warned.
FreeFlow
User ID: 456207
7/22/2008 3:38 PM
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Read this folks!!!

Last update - 11:43 22/07/2008

Israel fears scathing U.S. report on its West Bank policies

By Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff

The United States security coordinator for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, retired general James Jones, is preparing an extremely critical report of Israel's policies in the territories and its attitude toward the Palestinian Authority's security services.

A few copies of the report's executive summary (or, according to some sources, a draft of it) have been given to senior Bush Administration officials, and it is reportedly arousing considerable discomfort. In recent weeks, the administration has been debating whether to allow Jones to publish his full report, or whether to tell him to shelve it and make do with the summary, given the approaching end of President George Bush's term.

Jones was appointed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice following the Annapolis peace conference last November. His assignment was to draft a strategic plan to facilitate stabilization of the security situation, as a necessary accompaniment to Israeli-Palestinian final-status negotiations. In this context, he assessed the PA security forces in the West Bank, whose reform is being overseen by another American general, Keith Dayton. Jones has visited the region several times and met with senior Israeli government officials and army officers.

According to both Israeli and American sources, the envoy's conclusions about Israel are scathing. Israelis who met with Jones on his most recent visit here a few weeks ago, including Israel Defense Forces officers, said their impression was that the report would be "very harsh, and make Israel look very bad."

[link to www.haaretz.com]

Last update - 09:19 22/07/2008

Israeli official: U.S. intervention in minor Palestinian issues could damage ties


[link to www.haaretz.com]
 Quoting: Shockingly Outrageous! 471728
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357626
7/22/2008 3:45 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Actually God is going to let Israel be nearly overrun by it's enemies so He has 100% cause to show His power (by raising up the surviving remnant after destroying Israel's enemies).........no excuses then. We have all been warned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 162364

You're living in the past man. It already happened. Read your new testiment and you will realize that christians are the new israel, not the nation or nation of people of israel.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 195267 (OP)
7/22/2008 7:52 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

i've got to say honestly that i'm still not sure about this sorcha faal but what she's saying here contains more information in just a short article than over a year of what the media is telling us about the world
Mr. Predictor SubscriberModerator
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7/22/2008 7:58 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Muslim Nation oil reserves= a whole bunch!
Israeli oil reserves=none
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 195267


why do you think Moses had to wander for 40 years

to find the only land in the area with NO OIL !!!!
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is MOD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472008
7/22/2008 8:00 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Why would there be a split between USA and Israel?

They are both 'young' countries founded on stolen land, who feel they are have the god given right to be moral arbiters over the rest of the world.

They seem like perfect bedfellows to me.

Oh wait, it's Sorcha Faal.

Nevermind...

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 467023



bsflag

bsflag

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472008
7/22/2008 8:02 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

The US will not split with Israel or God (YHWH) will split with the US.

Americans in the majority know why YHWH has put us in the position of helping to defend Israel.

The next step is to kill all the Islamics. We need to rise up and exterminate them.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472008
7/22/2008 8:02 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

The US will not split with Israel or God (YHWH) will split with the US.

Americans in the majority know why YHWH has put us in the position of helping to defend Israel.

The next step is to kill all the Islamics. We need to rise up and exterminate them.
ano
User ID: 471917
7/22/2008 8:04 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

israel will listen to suggestions but wil make decisions based on day to day reality ..u.S. will accept that situation ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471980
7/22/2008 8:06 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

Why would there be a split between USA and Israel?

They are both 'young' countries founded on stolen land, who feel they are have the god given right to be moral arbiters over the rest of the world.

They seem like perfect bedfellows to me.

Oh wait, it's Sorcha Faal.

Nevermind...

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 467023

Banana Split!!! a famous dessert, hahahaha
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 224770
7/22/2008 8:06 PM
Re: US Informs Russia Of Coming ‘Major’ Split With IsraelQuote

SF - Always stiring up the antisemetic shit...

bsflag
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446728
7/22/2008 8:08 PM
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Russian Military Analysts further point out in these reports that the actions of the US against Israel are ‘strictly adhering’ to the West’s decades long plan, and past US betrayals of longtime allies, to remake the entire Middle East ····

These reports continue by stating that the ‘final lynchpin’ in the West’s Grand Game for the Middle East is the return to Turkey of Fethullah Gülen, though who unknown to virtually all of the Western peoples is known to be one of the most important Muslim figures in the entire World.
····

[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]
 Quoting: reports Sorcha Faal 195267


'The Third Secret of Fatima'

"A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION WILL BE ASSASSINATED AND THIS WILL PROVOKE THE WAR.

A POWERFUL ARMY WILL DOMINATE ALL THROUGH EUROPE AND THE NUCLEAR WAR WILL COMMENCE." [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


The same thing happened to Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan. She was let out of 'house arrest' on the 15th of November and she was assassinated on the 27th of December. 535, a member of Congress, knew about it in advance. "Pakistan is officially "in play" as of 5 days ago," he wrote.


The real reason for this set-up in Turkey, is to get the pope installed in Jerusalem for the New World Order with Jerusalem as its Capital.

[1]"Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the Pope of their making, from Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. That’s their ultimate goal." [link to www.theforbiddenknowledge.com]


Hence, if that is correct:

I remember in one prophecy Iran is meant to walk through Turkey in order to reach Europe and thus Rome.

Does anyone remember this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471518


I've never heard of it, AC471518, however, if it does happen it will be more than Iran that walks, and it will be very fitting that they meet in Rome.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446728
7/22/2008 8:53 PM
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The Jesuits turn on the Yankees too

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